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“Now later he decided to run for governor of Michigan, and so you can imagine that having closed the factory and moved all the production to Wisconsin was a very sensitive issue to him, for his campaign,” explained Romney, who described a subsequent campaign parade in which the school band marching with his father knew how to play Wisconsin’s fight song, but not Michigan’s.

“Every time they would start playing ‘On Wisconsin, On Wisconsin,’ my dad’s political people would jump up and down and try to get them to stop, because they didn’t want people in Michigan to be reminded that my dad had moved production to Wisconsin,” said Romney, laughing.

Thus ended an anecdote Mitt Romney shared with supporters in Wisconsin via a campaign conference call in an attempt to demonstrate that he had some sort of connection with their state. Now, this was far from the first time that the former governor of Massachusetts has said things that reinforce the idea that he is a absurdly wealthy hedge fund tycoon who was no compassion whatsoever for any social set lower than his NASCAR- and major league franchise-owning friends. He has previously let us know, for instance, that corporations are people, that he likes to fire people who provide services to him, and that his passion for sports seems to depend entirely on how the owners he knows will be affected. Romney's other gaffes show a certain level of cluelessness about the average voter, or at the very least a total inability to relate to them in a way that they can understand. But this quote, as well as the values that underlie it, are far more dangerous, and emblematic of the conservative movement as a whole.

Without a doubt, not even Mitt Romney could be considered gauche enough to have shared this anecdote were he still competing for the primary votes of Republicans in Michigan, but with that win and those delegates safely in the bag, he had absolutely no trouble laughing about how his family eliminated the jobs of perhaps those same voters he was courting not too long ago. But not only does Romney have no shame about sharing this story in public, he did so gleefully in an attempt to show some sort of relationship to the state he is currently campaigning for. In Romney's mind, after all, the voters of Wisconsin should be happy because they got a factory and jobs, regardless of whether it came at the expense of destroyed hopes and dreams on the other side of Lake Michigan.

Unlike his other gaffes, it's not just that Romney was too tone-deaf to understand how his comments could sound off-putting to voters. Instead, he actively expected this anecdote to appeal positively to Republican primary voters in Wisconsin. The unfortunate part is, he may be right.

In the same way that Wisconsin's gain was Michigan's loss regarding the American Motors factory owned by George Romney, the conservative mentality regarding most aspects of politics, economics and civil rights is by default antagonistic and competitive, and uses the logic of a zero-sum game whereby any party's gain must necessarily be another party's loss. If the government provides economic support such as jobless benefits or stimulus, it must necessarily have hurt the economic prospects of those who were still on their feet, irrespective of the benefits of reintroducing that money back into the economy. If the LGBT community gains the fundamental civil right of marriage, it must, by necessity and definition, have impinged on the civil rights of heterosexuals, even if nobody can precisely articulate exactly why. If women are granted access to the medications they need to lead a happy and healthy existence, it can only have come at the expense of the the right of religious freedom, which has now been deemed by conservatives to include the right to impose one's religious values on one's employees. If millions of people are successfully added to the insurance rolls, then that must, by logical default, have resulted in death panels or denial of care to other, more deserving people. In the conservative mind, after all, there is only so much of any one thing to go around: consequently, someone must win, and someone must lose.

Mitt Romney is inhumane, and cannot be allowed to assume the presidency. He is not inhumane because he sees no problem with strapping his dog to the roof of his car, or because he is comically inept at small talk. He is not inhumane because he likes to talk about his friendships with sports team owners, or even because he hired a lobbyist in an effort to secure the permitting process for a car elevator in his dream mansion in San Diego. He isn't even inhumane because he used his position at Bain Capital to destroy jobs, hopes and dreams for his own economic benefit. Most of all, Mitt Romney is inhumane because he, like the conservative movement that surrounds him, does not believe that all Americans can enjoy increased freedoms and economic prosperity, to say nothing of understanding the conditions and policies that would achieve this end.

Ultimately, this is why Barack Obama will be re-elected, and conservatism will fail. Conservative Teen Magazine notwithstanding, younger generations tend to take a more cooperative, collaborative view of the world, and will turn out to the candidates and political parties that embrace this vision. As the conservative movement continues to embrace the doctrinaire plutocracy embodied by Mitt Romney, it will ultimately wither away in all but the reddest areas—right alongside the elderly white Fox News demographic to which it appeals.

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  •  Conservative Teen Magazine (32+ / 0-)

    Hmmm from the people who brought you

    Water skiing  Undertakers Magazine

    Response: If you "got it" you wouldn't be a republican

    by JML9999 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:06:44 AM PDT

  •  How many production jobs did Bain move to (12+ / 0-)

    another country before Mitt decided he wanted to become governor of America?

    maybe it's hereditary.

    It seems curiosity has killed the cat that had my tongue.

    by Murphoney on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:10:50 AM PDT

    •  National unemployment figures (7+ / 0-)

      It doesn't help the National unemployment figures if states keep stealing jobs from each other.  

      Response: If you "got it" you wouldn't be a republican

      by JML9999 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:16:46 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  We Learned That in Ohio 40 Years Ago nt (8+ / 0-)

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:50:32 AM PDT

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      •  sure, but I wonder how many ex-pat jobs Bain made. (4+ / 0-)

        Just as his daddy hurt Michigan for personal gain, before he ran for executive of that state, POTUS-wannabee MittBain has profited personally from moving jobs out of the USA entirely.

        But how many jobs?  and, if it's a significant number, why hasn't this been chatted up all over the place?

        It seems curiosity has killed the cat that had my tongue.

        by Murphoney on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:28:52 AM PDT

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        •  well now (3+ / 0-)
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          wait a second, American Motors was struggling, George Romney closing a factory, and giving the work to another plant in another state, has no relevance to Bain buying a corporation and destroying it for profit.  The jobs eliminated at AMC were not for the profit of George Romney personally, but for the survival of AMC.

          ...sin that pays its way can travel freely, and without a passport,whereas Virtue, if a pauper is stopped at all frontiers. from The Sermon, Moby Dick

          by jts327 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:40:16 AM PDT

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          •  And when do we start blaming management for (2+ / 0-)
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            running companies into the ground, instead of the workers who do what they are told?

            American Airlines is bankrupt and getting closer to dissolution. Yet all anybody can talk about is how their labor force is to blame.

            GM struggled for near fifty years, always blaming labor, and when they went bankrupt all anybody talked about was the bad labor unions. Management had fifty years to fix the company.

            Yes, American Motors struggled; but never once have I read that there was a problem with their management team.

            MANAGEMENT runs the company, and managers -- like CEOs, board memebers, Vice-Presidents, Directors, etc. make the decisions that workers must follow.

            We've long known that the US has the worst executives in the world, yet they've had enough wealth amassed in the previous centuries to be able to fake it. But it's running out, and not just the Japanese and Chinese, Koreans and Brazillians are running rings around them. European companies are fun much more efficiently than American companies.

            It's high time we start placing the blame for our economic  woes where they belong --- with an executive corps and business school theories that  - just - don't - work.

            The current crop of MBA executives (like GW Bush) brought you such marvelous gems as:

               -- Don't look for a market; create it. Consumers don't know what to ask for so ignore them and sell what you have.

               -- Prune at least 10% of your customer base every year. Sell more to fewer people.

               -- Replace your entire workforce every ten years. Workers with a company more than 10 years are a liability, not an asset.

               -- Offshoring is cheaper, even if its more expensive (yes, a vice-president told me this once!!).

            So I lay the failure of AMC right on Romney the elder's head.

            •  Amen Vigilant... I've been saying that all along. (2+ / 0-)

              Everyone keeps saying prove Romney did this - prove he did that - Like Bain is going to be stupid enough to not have tossed all the HDD's with anything incriminating already.

              We don't have to

              Romney is BAIN

              BAIN is an organized Criminal Empire (we have tons of proof)

              A=B B=C

              Romney = Bain
              Bain = Fraud

              Romney = FRAUD

              If you desire a better world - be a better person.

              by laserhaas on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 09:19:48 AM PDT

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            •  i agree with most everything you say, (0+ / 0-)

              however, American Motors, was in a fight for survival against the big three, GM, Ford, and Chrysler.  
              I worked for Chevrolet in Flint, Michigan on the assembly line at chevrolet manufacturing for five years, and as a crankshaft grinder for ten years.  I am well aware of bad management and the destruction that bad management policies cause to working families.  I lived it.
              Before George Romney "caused AMC to fail", he caused it to at least become viable in the struggle for survival against the big three.
              The used Rambler American (aka "the kenosha vibrator") that i drove from 1966 to 1968 when i entered the Army, was a small, well built, fairly fuel efficient car for its time.  I lived that too.

              ...sin that pays its way can travel freely, and without a passport,whereas Virtue, if a pauper is stopped at all frontiers. from The Sermon, Moby Dick

              by jts327 on Wed Apr 04, 2012 at 04:02:42 AM PDT

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    •  You have more than that to worry of. Bain'ees R (2+ / 0-)

      BAD business people.

      THey are geniuses at putting things into bankruptcy and stealing everything -

      if there is anything left - they re issue new stock to themselves (throwing away all the old stockholders)

      Kay Bee filed bankruptcy multiple times - under Bain's auspice.

      Will Romney Bankrupt America?

      If you desire a better world - be a better person.

      by laserhaas on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:46:31 AM PDT

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  •  I disagree with the 2nd to last paragraph. (27+ / 0-)

    He's inhumane for the reasons you say, but he is also still inhumane for all those other reasons.

    Sincerely yours,

    Senior Advisor to Itzik Shpitzik

    "So, am I right or what?"

    by itzik shpitzik on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:15:10 AM PDT

  •  A very good point. Everything is a competition. (25+ / 0-)

    Cooperation is for wusses.

    Don't ask, take.

    Don't partner with another company, do a hostile takeover.

    Don't consider employees part of the team, label them production units, and make your goal to obtain and use them as cheaply as possible.

    Don't root for your team to win, scream at them to annihilate the other team. Preferably with some broken bones involved. Feel free to offer cash incentives to your players.

    "We're Number One!" This means that every other country is inferior. In every way.

    "God is on our side." And everyone not of your exact brand of faith is hateful to God.

    No nuance. No sense of the common good. For me to win, you have to lose, and lose big.

    Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

    by Sirenus on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:17:28 AM PDT

  •  Yes he is inhumane (17+ / 0-)
    He is not inhumane because he sees no problem with strapping his dog to the roof of his car,
    sometimes it's the little things that provide a look see into the personality of someone, and that little thing is a perfect insight into this guy.
  •  They're changing the title (7+ / 0-)

    to Conservative Dutch Teen magazine.  Because, you know, Dutch teens look more wholesomely Aryan than German teens.

    Wholly-owned subsidiaries are people, too, my friend.

    by deminva on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:20:23 AM PDT

  •  I don't think WI voters are dumb enough (13+ / 0-)

    to fall for this Wisconsin vs. Michigan ploy, with Mitt being so proud of his dad.  Well, maybe GOP primary voters, but not voters in general. You know what they say about the mistress who married the adulterer (otherwise known as Newt Gingrich's second wife): if he did it to her, it's only a matter of time before he does it to you. A pretty good analogy to Rmoney and his business ethics, I'd say.

    "The only thing we have to fear - is fear itself." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    by orrg1 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:21:27 AM PDT

  •  More evidence of inhumanity - Leno h/c comments (15+ / 0-)

    Here's more Ayn Rand-ian, every-man-for-himself commentary from the Mittster on Leno this past week:

    Jay Leno told Romney that he knew people that had never been able to get insurance before “Obamacare” was passed.

    Leno: It seems to me like children and people with preexisting conditions should be covered.

    Romney: People with preexisting conditions — as long as they’ve been insured before, they’re going to continue to have insurance.

    Leno: Suppose they were never insured?

    Romney: Well, if they’re 45 years old, and they show up, and they say, I want insurance, because I’ve got a heart disease, it’s like, `Hey guys, we can’t play the game like that. You’ve got to get insurance when you’re well, and if you get ill, then you’re going to be covered.

    Leno: I know guys that work in the auto industry and they’re just not covered because they work in brake dust. And then they get to be 30, 35, and were never able to get insurance before. Now they have it. That seems like a good thing.

    Romney: But people who have had the chance to be insured — if you’re working in an auto business for instance, the companies carry insurance, they insure all their employees — you look at the circumstances that exist. But you don’t want everyone saying, `I’m going to sit back until I get sick and then go buy insurance.’ That doesn’t make sense. But you have to find rules that get people in that are playing by the rules.

  •  One would think running another born in the (5+ / 0-)

    purple, business man just like "W" would be the worst thing the Republicans could do. Apparently not. I'm reminded how some of the European "royals" were embarrassed by the people who insisted on bowing or doffing their hats well after such actions had come to be considered gauche. As an American, I'm embarrassed by the Republican party. Many of them seem to love the caste system. Rich people on top, non-whites on the bottom.  

    We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance.

    by PowWowPollock on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:29:53 AM PDT

    •  Insanity is doing the same thing (1+ / 0-)
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      over and over again expecting different results.

      But one difference: George W. Bush at least had the ability to get people to believe that he was a man of the people, even if it was all media spin. He was able to model himself after Ronald Reagan in that respect. I don't think Romney has that ability -- heck, you can't even sit down and have a beer with him unless it's an O'Doul's or something.

      The optimist sees the glass as half-full. The pessimist sees the glass as half-empty. The realist just knows she's thirsty.

      by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:25:43 AM PDT

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  •  Racism is talking about ANYONE'S color... (0+ / 0-)

    " will ultimately wither away in all but the reddest areas—right alongside the elderly white..."

    So, the enemy is the old and the Caucasian? Could you clue us which is worse? Or is it just the combination?

    Or is it only the ones who watch Fox, and not those who watch Chris Hayes?

    Will you refuse services from all doctors who are "elderly white," and all teachers, nurses, waitresses, and cleaning ladies?

  •  sharing the perception of my 10th graders (10+ / 0-)

    in AP Government (128 tenth and one 11th) during this election cycle has been fascinating.

    Let me stipulate that relatively few of my students are self-described Conservatives and/or Republicans, perhaps 15%.   Yet even of these most were at best amused and sometimes baffled and/or angered by what they were hearing in Republican debates, or in statements by the candidates for President or by some Republican electeds on the Hill.

    That is not to say that they are all excited by Obama.  They are not.

    While some may oppose full marriage equality, few will acknowledge opposition to civil unions or accept the idea of overt and legalized discrimination against gays - they know too many of their peers who are gay, and despite religious upbringings have to form world views that include what they know as good people.

    Even the conservative Republicans laugh aloud at some of the silly expressions coming out of Mitt Romney's mouth.

    Romney will almost certainly be the Republican nominee.  I have always had a hard time seeing how he would sell himself in a general election, and as far right as he has moved during the primaries, I think he might be the greatest gift Obama could have in an opponent.  I wonder how much of the Republican base may stay home rather than turn out and vote for a presidential candidate whose religion is actually less weird than the things he propounds on the campaign trail.

    "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

    by teacherken on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:33:52 AM PDT

    •  Mitt will probably try the McCain game change VP (6+ / 0-)

      move or he will think it is a big game changer much as McGrandpa did.  I am betting he either puts a southern Evangelical like McDonnell on the ticket or someone like Rubio to get Florida and what he will think will gain him more Hispanic voters or perhaps even Gov Sandoval for Nevada.

      I look for him to make many more delusional campaign decisions and utter more condescending and out of touch statements in the coming months.

      Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

      by wishingwell on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:28:13 AM PDT

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      •  McDonnell is a Roman Catholic (4+ / 0-)

        his undergraduate degree is from Notre Dame.  Yes, he has the blessing of Pat Robertson, having done a double degree at Regent University.

        Recent polling information shows that McDonnell does not deliver Virginia for Romney.   And I would argue that even with blessing of Robertson, combination of Mormon & Catholic would hurt badly in NC.

        Rubio is now a Catholic, but as an adolescent was a Mormon.  He might help win Florida, but would not help elsewhere as far as I can tell -  he is Cuban, and that will not help with those of Puerto Rican background in NJ or of Mexican background in places like Nevada, AZ, CO & NM.  Heck, for all I know it might even make TX competitive.

        You might argue that Romney will go for Latina Governor of NM, but that would be Sarah Palin redux in many ways.  Martinez has never been vetted on a national stage.

        Besides, I think Romney's folks think he is the game changer.

        "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

        by teacherken on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:41:05 AM PDT

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        •  Rubio will not help win Florida. He's a senator (3+ / 0-)

          ONLY because the race was a three way split. He got in while 65% of the state voted from someone else. Nobody in the state likes Rubio except the GOP. Not indies, not leftists, not moderate democrats. Can cannot help deliver Florida.

          •  then no point in putting him on ticket (4+ / 0-)

            and he has been pretty vocal that he does not want to be on ticket

            which then raises the question of who will be on the list of those to be considered.

            I assume that both McDonnell and Rubio will be asked.  The former might well consider it.

            Gov. Martinez of NM, perhaps.

            He can ask Chris Christie, but (a) that will not give you NHJ; (b) any money he might bring Romney should already be getting, and (c) not sure Christie wants to damage himself while he is considering his own run in 2016.

            Might Romney turn to Rand Paul?  Don't see what it would get him, but his name might be leaked as being on the list.

            Nicki Haley is about to be heavily damaged if she is indicted.

            Might Jeb Bush be asked?  He at least could probably deliver Florida, and his wife is Mexican.

            Pawlenty?  Would be like Clinton picking Gore in some ways.  Except Pawlenty would not even give you his home state.  He is, however, apparently a Baptist and Evangelical, which might help Romney with the part of the base that least likes him.

            I really don't see logical choices the way I did for Obama last time, who had a wealth of candidates besides Biden to consider:  Dodd, H. Clinton, Kaine. Webb, Evan Bayh (ugh, but he offered some balance), and so on.

            But since I am not a republican, I have to do some real contortions to think like one.

            Oh, and btw, I do not think Romney's people think he is in as desperate a situation as did McCain's people think about himself.

            "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

            by teacherken on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 11:25:24 AM PDT

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    •  "How he would sell himself in a general election." (1+ / 0-)
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      He's already telling us. Obama is a radical trying to transform America into "something unrecognizable." With that as a frame of reference, the entire loathesome Republican platform, if it can be so dignified, will be sold as a noble attempt to return us to the (nonexistent) halcyon days before Obama hijacked our values and started turning us into a socialist state.

      You think it won't work? It will unless Obama shows a hell of a lot more fire and guts and political smarts than he showed in 2009 and 2010.

      If I knew it was comin', I could pull a jet plane.--Reggie Jackson

      by LongTom on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:41:06 AM PDT

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      •  seriously Tom, it's almost like you havent (3+ / 0-)
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        seen anything since about November 2011. have you seen or heard ANYTHING Obama's said or done since "2009 and 2010"?

        He's BEEN showing quite a bit of fire and guts, frankly. And blessedly calling the GOP out by name for their shit. Repeatedly. Even to the shock and amazement of those of us who have been "quite critical" over the 2009-2010 period.

        Please, get caught up. It'll save you a ton of "concern worrying".

        •  I should not be worried about (0+ / 0-)

          the Democrats chances in a national election? Based on what? Past performance?

          Sure, I've seen Obama since 2011. I still find his rhetoric weak. It's absurd for him to keep blaming "Congress." The problem isn't "Congress", it's Republicans in Congress!
          I've seen enough of these things to know that Democrats are capable of losing any election at any time.

          If I knew it was comin', I could pull a jet plane.--Reggie Jackson

          by LongTom on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 07:24:22 AM PDT

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  •  Let's call this what it is - Social Darwinism (6+ / 0-)

    This has always been at the core of conservatism.  Herbert Spencer's "survival of the fittest."  It was hidden by the need to win the Cold War.  But since its end it has reemerged with a vengeance.

    I aim to misbehave.

    by warprof on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:38:36 AM PDT

    •  Which is the Exact Opposite Of What th Term Should (2+ / 0-)
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      According to Darwin, the winners are the poor. Almost everyone is poor, there are some 4 billion poor.

      There are only a few hundred million rich. They're the Darwinian losers up to this point.

      Of course the way they run society through these looming bottlenecks, and considering the security assets they have to enforce their rule, they will probably eventually be the Darwinian winners.

      But not yet, not right now.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:57:56 AM PDT

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    •  Darwin also pointed out (7+ / 0-)

      that the best way to compete is to cooperate.  Conservatives do the same thing with Darwin that they do with Christianity--contort the parts they don't like and ignore the others that contradict their "beliefs."  Natural selection means those most adaptable to change are  the ones who survive, and by definition change is anathema to conservatives.

  •  Romney is a Robot (9+ / 0-)

    See this great article by Charles Pierce:
    Beyond Illinois: Romneybot Cannot Compute All It Takes

    The Evil would be in electing him.

    BTW, 23 of his foreign policy advisers are from the Bush administration:

  •  FOX "News" total viewership is down 17% (16+ / 0-)

    ..the first quarter of 2012.

    Dumbed-down to the point that they can't figure out the remote-control thingy for the TeeVee machine. Staring at an empty screen, wearing tri-corner hats, drooling into half-eaten bowls of cold farina.

  •  Brooklyn childhood (3+ / 0-)
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    When I was growing up in Bklyn, we'd argue whose father was a better fighter-- as if that gave you cred.  Today, the Republicans argue whose father had the most money--or--who can get the most donations.  This is true to a much less degree within the D party, for now, but Citizen's United will prove that money always wins-- no democracy can withstand the onslaught of unrestricted political donations--the 1% wins.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:42:52 AM PDT

  •  Mitt Romney, Corporate-American (2+ / 0-)
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    Mayfly, Only Needs a Beat

    Willard may be inhumane to lesser humans, but you have to admit that he stands up staunchly for the human rights of his fellow corporations.

    It really isn't too hard to understand Romney's troubled relationship with principles, core beliefs, and the truth.

    All you have to do is see that he treats principles like people. They are his employees, to be hired and fired at will. They work for him, he doesn't work for them.

  •  Conservatism... (14+ / 0-)

    Free Image Hosting at

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:46:20 AM PDT

  •  Mitt Romney: "Severe Inhumanitarian" (14+ / 0-)

    ",,, the Political whorehouse that is Fox News." Keith Olbermann

    by irate on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:47:00 AM PDT

  •  Last night at dinner (11+ / 0-)

    a friend at the table said "If Romney is elected..." He wasn't advocating for such a thing to happen, it was an off the cuff remark. It was all I could do to not jump up and down on the table and ask if he was ***king kidding.  If such a statement can come out of your mouth at this stage in the process then you are clearly blind to what has been happening in politics over the last few months.
    The people not paying attention now will be after he is the nominee and I can only pray that they see what a tool Mitt is - the more he's out there the less he's liked. The only thing that helps Romney on the trail is being seen less often.

    •  they will be mortified at what they see. (9+ / 0-)

      remember, Mitt's decline was more like a collapse. His favs were high and his numbers good in early January. By February he was in the dumps.

      AND at that time he wasn't fighting any real opponents.

      So imagine if you will, the same dumbassed candidate with the same amateur campaign team running against Plouffe, Axelrod and Obama.

      Romney will collapse just as quickly when those who were paying attention in January - May start paying attention in August through November. And the differences will be that he'll have a fight on his hands (one he's not yet faced) and our side WILL be pointing all this stuff out in glaring ugly repeat fashion, unlike his pathetic and underfunded republican "competitors". There will be only two spotlights come August: Obama and Romney.  

      It will NOT get better for him.

      •  Right wingers on these blogs and news site (4+ / 0-)
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        comments are absolutely convinced that Obama will be defeated. They keep saying anyone is better than him. They are counting down the days and crossing them off on their calendar.  

        A friend of mine said he wonders if they really believe there is no way Obama can win a second term or have they talked themselves into that or it is wishful thinking or is it just False Bravado that they have in full supply?

        Wingnuts have short memories as they forget how tough the Obama campaign team can be and how solid and organized it is.

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        by wishingwell on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:36:57 AM PDT

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  •  On a National Scale the Term Would Be "Sociopath" (6+ / 0-)

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:58:54 AM PDT

  •  That anecdote doesn't make any sense. (10+ / 0-)

    Romney Sr is campaigning in MI and the school band he hires plays Wisconsin's fight song, but doesn't know UM's The Victors?

    Either Romey Sr hired a band from Wisconsin, not MI (this is what outsourcing gets you) or the band director didn't like Romney and was pretending his band didn't know The Victors.  

    Republicans: if they only had a heart.

    by leu2500 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:05:27 AM PDT

  •  Wait -- Romney is from Wisconsin? (14+ / 0-)

    I thought that he was from:

    West Virginia
    An Etch a Sketch
    The land of Mordor...

    Although it wouldn't be unfair to expect that a number of potentially very confused primary voters might think any of the above to be the correct answer.

  •  Unless he has a tightly controlled script, (6+ / 0-)

    RMoney continues to prove (left to his own resources) he is an absolute idiot, completely out of touch with the man on the street.

  •  These incidents aren't gaffes (8+ / 0-)

    they are just vivid examples of what a soulless, miserable individual Mitt Romney is.

    Barack Obama for President '08

    by v2aggie2 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:10:28 AM PDT

  •  The Simple Math of the Conservative Mind (7+ / 0-)

    For someone to win, someone else must lose.

    There is no need to share when you can have it all.

    Money is the only meaningful way to keep score.

    There is no such thing as society.

    You're On Your Own.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:10:44 AM PDT

    •  This is called "the presumption of scarcity." (4+ / 0-)
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      It is an automatic human reflex.  It's opposite, "the presumption of plenitude," is difficult for people to hold onto.  It is the lens through which true progressives see the world, which is why we are in a minority, but also why education is on our side.

      So I see only tatters of clearness through a pervading obscurity - Annie Dillard -6.88, -5.33

      by illinifan17 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:58:40 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Romney is probably one of the least skilled... (5+ / 0-)

    politicians offered by any party for the office of President since Dukakis; however, his humanity or lack thereof will not be the destruction of his campaign. Nor will the "generation" argument be anything but tangenital to this election, there is no indication from polling that between now and November that a significant difference based on the age demographic transitioning to a more "liberal" or "progressive" generation will be sufficient to win without aggressive voter registration and a significant uptick in youth voting rates.

    It is quite likely that Democrats will barely hold onto the Senate and increase the number of memebers on the Democratic side of the aisle in the House and reelect President Obama; however, it is possible that we will lose. There is a great discomfort and anxiety in the people and the 2010 election happened because of miserable performance by Democrats in Obama's first two years in office.

    The domestic economy and foreign political and economic policy will have the greatest impact on this
    election, not the likeability of the candidates. Toughness and even ruthlessness are qualities the modern American people have looked for from Presidents in tough times: Nixon was a bastard and everyone knew it, he got elected and reelected; Reagan was a walking disaster, not intellectually or physically up to the job and everyone knew it, he got elected and reelected; George W Bush was a cold hearted, lying, charlatan and a lightweight on foreign policy and everyone knew it, he got elected and releected; inhumanity poured out of the mouths of all these men at different times, as well as ignorance, racism, insensitivity and arrogance, America didn't care.

    National elections are about the future; however, if the present is so tough that people think the vision offered can't be reconciled with their experience, they will reject that future presented by an incumbent and vote for a change, any change... Anyone who believes that Romney's character flaws will be pivotal in this campaign is deluded. If the President cannot make the case that four more years of his leadership will economically benefit the American people, that America will continue to be "safe" under his leadership and that his vision of government can work for the American people, he's toast. Romney doesn't have that burden, he's new and untried, even if he is the most mendacious, selfish, arrogant bastard that ever lived, if Americans want a change, that will mean nothing.

    Democrats can't assume any positive benefit from the lack of gravitas of Mitt Romney, we will have to work twice as hard for Obama and every Democratic candidate on the ticket to gain a national governing majority and regain the Whitehouse. If we cannot effectively deliver after that, we're done as a Party for a generation. Confident statements of inevitable victory are ridiculous at this point in the election, especially those statements based on "character issues", because in the end, if Americans voted on the basis of character, Washington would not be the place it is today.

    "Intelligence is quickness in seeing things as they are..." George Santayana

    by KJG52 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:12:41 AM PDT

    •  knwo what else is ridiculous? (10+ / 0-)
      Confident statements of inevitable victory are ridiculous at this point in the election,
      That people keep saying "we have to fight, we have to fight, we have to fight" on a fucking blog of activists.


      Really, I can laugh at the ridiculousness of all that is Mitt Romney and still not lose sight of the fact that we'll have to work our asses off. What is so hard about understanding that?

      Further I take issue with this statement:

      2010 election happened because of miserable performance by Democrats in Obama's first two years in office.
      Wrong. I walked the same canvasses in 2010 as I did in 2008. You know why we lost? It wasn't because people didn't Obama was doing a good job. In fact people OFTEN said, "the GOP is a bunch of assholes who want him to fail". We lost because many of those new and first time voters didn't recognize the importance of voting in an "off-year" election. They had NO IDEA about it or why it needs to be done. Activists and long-time democrats showed up. Newbies and those who only vote every four years (and then only ticking the top of the ticket) did not show up. And that's why we lost. PERIOD.

      And lastly, this:

      because in the end, if Americans voted on the basis of character, Washington would not be the place it is today.
      Americans (and in fact human being in general) vote based on emotion. In fact every decision you've ever made started with emotion. this is a proven psychologicaL fact. Then we go back to fill in our conclusions with logical reasons to justify our decisions. It's how we're made and nobody can undo it. Much of it is subconscious. We make snap judgements about people based on a variety of verbal and non-verbal cues. Romney's problem is that he ticks all the wrong places in many people's "snap judgement decision making centers". he can't help it and it's why 70% of his own party don't like him and why his favorables are the lowest of any major presidential candidate in history. Bush was more likable than Gore. Period. And Kerry for that matter. Nobody was more likable than Bill Clinton, even with his flaws. People don't make choices based on character, but that's only ONE of Mitt Romney's most fatal flaws. He's unlikable on a deeply instinctual level. The MANY OBVIOUS character flaws are the logic the majority of people will use to explain and justify why they just don't like the guy.
      •  Well said Mdmslle, you are spot on (5+ / 0-)


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        by wishingwell on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:49:21 AM PDT

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      •  This........................... (5+ / 0-)
        We lost because many of those new and first time voters didn't recognize the importance of voting in an "off-year" election. They had NO IDEA about it or why it needs to be done. Activists and long-time democrats showed up. Newbies and those who only vote every four years (and then only ticking the top of the ticket) did not show up. And that's why we lost. PERIOD.

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        by wishingwell on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:50:28 AM PDT

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      •  We lost because we didn't address the problems of (0+ / 0-)

        the people in a smart and active way. We lost because we demonstrated to the people that as a party, we valued the status quo over their needs. We lost because people on our side did not see the value of voting for "change" when their lives were not changed significantly enough to support Democrats. We lost because of the "emotional" decision making process that inevitably proceeeds from over building expectations and then not delivering on the most important promise made, that economically and socially Democrats would make changes that the American people wanted to see happen.

        We lost because we didn't take a historic opportunity to punish wrong doing in the financial markets and come to the assistance of the American people in the way they needed us to assist them.

        Blaming the voters because they didn't vote in the numbers or in the way we wanted them to vote is inane. People may decide their vote emotionally, but we have the ability by communicating, focusing and performing to effect that emotional bias, we didn't do it. Blamimg the voters for their reaction to the effects on their lives of  governance is the best way to lose. It's time we took some responsibility for our losses and start delivering real, effective political change, or we will go the way of the Whigs.

        "Intelligence is quickness in seeing things as they are..." George Santayana

        by KJG52 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:52:54 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  ok you keep thinking that. (3+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
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          I;m not suggesting that the democrats couldve done more and been better in those two years.

          But I am telling you that THAT IS NOT WHY WE LOST IN 2010.

          You do realize that there are people who only vote in presidential elections, right. I know. I was one of them well into adulthood.

          Many new voters didn't see "obama" on the ticket and didn't vote. I know this because I WAS THE ONE KNOCKING ON DOORS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT VOTING. I can tell you many didn;t realize there was an election. Many more didn't see the connection between voting in an "off year" election and Obama's success. and I am TELLING YOU that in fact, many of the people I canvassed were HAPPY with Obama and felt he was being treated poorly by the GOP.

          But you keep on with you theories. I'm giving you a report from the ground, from the front lines. And you don't believe it. That's a sack full of stupid, there.

          •  I too was working in the campaigns of 2010 and (0+ / 0-)

            the only sack full of stupid is believing that people will be motivated to vote when they don't have work, economic security, and their mortgages are upside down. When they are promised the government will act in their best interests and it doesn't. Everyone in politics knows about campaign cycles, therefore, they have to prepare their ground game and messaging to maintain enthusiasm and publicly GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT so that people will know what has been done for them. The national Democrats messaging and ground game was terrible in 2010, and the economy was not recovering as fast as Mr. Recovery Summer- Tim Geithner trumpeted it to be. You can't blame the people for the nonperformance of the government, that's just a path to electoral oblivion.

            Democrats had a chance, a once in a lifetime chance, to crush the Republicans politically in 2009, we didn't take it, we let them up off the mat and they kicked our asses. This is no hypothesis, this is a fact, we will be facing more money in this race, more organizations working against us and possible econmic stagnation and foreign policy developments that could easily turn this election on its head, to believe that Mitt Romney's personal deficits will turn the race into a definite win for Obama is just wishful thinking. An unknown Arkansas Governor beat a sitting President in 1992, a President whose popularity and approval ratings in March of that year were over 60%, a number Obama will not achieve in this election cycle. It was the economy that did in GHW Bush and if the economy stagnates for any reason between now and November, Mitt Romney could very well be the next President.

            "Intelligence is quickness in seeing things as they are..." George Santayana

            by KJG52 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 09:02:07 AM PDT

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    •  We do need to be dedicated to massive GOTV (5+ / 0-)

      and also in states that have or will have new voter ID laws, including instructions of what they will need to take to the polls in order to vote, and also helping those people without transportation get photo IDs and so much more.

      As Repubs are doing all they can to severely limiit those who can vote. They are making it harder and harder for people to get photo ID, register to vote and the whole nine yards.

      So we have to work even harder than ever before.

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      by wishingwell on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:46:23 AM PDT

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  •  Conservatives are taught to never (8+ / 0-)

    appreciate what they have unless they remember someone else can't have it.

    Example, and I've told this here before: my neighbor buys a beautiful brand new car, let's say a Camaro SS.  What's the worst I can do to that car, his worst nightmare?  Vandalize it?  Bring my own car over and ram it repeatedly?  Blow it up?  Steal it and run it off a cliff?  Steal it and run it into a lake?

    No, his worst, most hellish nightmare, is that I show up the next day with another one just like it, same trim level, same options package, perhaps even the same color.  Then, I've utterly ruined his car and made him miserable.  I've "attacked" him.

    Conservatives feel this way...about power, marraige rights, voting rights, reproductive rights, different religions, even enough income to pay the bills.  People who understand that understand why some of those people will hear Romney's story and love him for it.

    When you celebrate ignorance and boo education you don't get to cry when I call you a moron.--MinistryofTruth

    by dwayne on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:22:28 AM PDT

  •  Have to disagree here (7+ / 0-)
    He is not inhumane because he sees no problem with strapping his dog to the roof of his car,
    thats just another reason he is inhumane. Regardless of everything else,it will be Seamus that keeps Mitt out of the White House.

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

    by CTMET on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:25:50 AM PDT

  •  This Diary is both right and wrong. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Mayfly, Only Needs a Beat

    It's quite obvious that Romney is 100% goal-oriented, and will literally say or do anything to achieve the goal, whether it's to drive to Canada without the smelly dog inside the car, make a shitload of money, get elected governor, or get the Republican nomination. Even his wife has said no one knows what he really thinks. It's also true that he often says what he means: he DOES like firing people, he's NOT worried about poor people, and he DOES think moving a factory out of your home state is a good backdrop for a funny story. He has no empathy and no loyalty. During his last two years as governor, while starting to peddle his right wing bona fides, he went on a red state tour where he openly mocked the voters of his own state (who were, after all, dumb enough to elect him).

    Where the diary is wrong is assuming the inevitability of his defeat. The electorate is neither humane, empathetic, or perceptive. People believe what they are told, and for years Republicans have been doing the telling. Obama, as 2010 showed, has yet to prove that he's not an incompetent party leader. Obama has voiced no counter to the right wing narrative about him--which I just heard Romney repeat on NPR--that he is out to "transform America into something unrecognizable." And he has voiced no counter to the right wing narrative about government being bad all the time. Rhetorically, he and his party have been tone deaf or absent.

    Lies, propaganda, and appeals to voters' fears, bigotry, and jingoism work. These are the only ways Republicans can win elections. Most people disagree with them on nearly all real issues. But that's not enough to beat them.

    If I knew it was comin', I could pull a jet plane.--Reggie Jackson

    by LongTom on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:28:05 AM PDT

    •  LongTom, agreed. I'd add voter repression to "lies (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
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      propaganda and appeals to voters' fears..."  

      Freud is quoted as saying "Art is an example of the id in service to the ego."  

      Predatory capitalism could be described as "the ego in service to the id."

      Present-day GOP reminds me of the "monsters of the id" in the old sci-fi movie Lost Planet.

      "'s difficult to imagine what else Republicans can do to drive women away in 2012, unless they decide to bring back witch-hanging. And I wouldn't put it past them." James Wolcott

      by Mayfly on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:39:31 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I wasn't aware Obama was planning to sit it out. (4+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Mayfly, Only Needs a Beat, basket, Matt Z

      You know what people REALLY believe? What they see. Romney's problem is that the GOP hysteria about Obama being some sort of mad radical didn't quite pan out for them. I personally think they need a new tack. That's one is done and dead. Nobody but the GOP base believes Obama is a secret muslim radical anymore. But I give him a "A" for effort.

      Further, nobody here is seriously touting "inevitability of defeat". Come on. This is politics. Nothing is inevitable. If you were commenting on a yahoo article, I might not have my dander up. But sheesh. Do your really believe anyone who "does politics" as a hobby, like the visitors of this blog, believes we won't have to work our asses off until every poll closes - and maybe after? Come on. FFS.

      That said, Romney's favorables are in the toilet and continuing their downward spiral. Recent polls show a widening gap between him and Obama nationally and in key swing states. That's what it is today. Yes, it can change. It will change. And???

      Obviously, from those numbers, >someone is paying attention. And this shit Romney's putting down? A lot of somebody's aren't buying it. Part of the problem, IMO, is that people have noticed Romney is a bit of a - ahem - LIAR. When people recognize that, they tend to take what you say with a grain of salt. etch-a-sketch indeed. And we have work to do even on that front.

      Nevertheless, I'm quite sure Obama's and Biden's recent visits in key swing states and other places in the country have been well planned and strategically thought through. There's going to be plenty of time to enhance the way the public seems to already perceive Romney. He's been a big help so far and I'm excited to see how our side will help him along even further. I feel pretty good about our chances. So what? Romney, poor guy, is about to step into a shit storm.


      •  Did you read the diary? It assumes Mitt is doomed. (0+ / 0-)

        This same time of year in 1980, Democrats were praying Reagan would be nominated; Carter was thought to be a shoo-in against him.

        You think someone's paying attention? Not the lamebrain "undecided" and "independent" voters that will decide the election.

        We have two national elections to judge Obama on. In one, he defeated an aging stumblebum who wore the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression, and an extremely unpopular war, around his neck. The other election, 2010, was a complete blowjob.

        Even assuming Obama was lying when he said he didn't care if he won reelection or not, it's hard to have a lot of confidence in him as a politician or party leader. I'm glad you feel good about our chances. I hope you're right. But watching the Democrats gear up for a national election is like watching the 1962 Mets take the field. They so often find ways to lose.

        If I knew it was comin', I could pull a jet plane.--Reggie Jackson

        by LongTom on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 01:39:19 PM PDT

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  •  The GOP Credo: I Got Mine. Go Fuck Yourself. (7+ / 0-)

    Mitt Romney's Like A Box Of Chocolates. You Never Know What You're Gonna Get!

    by kitebro on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:45:22 AM PDT

  •  Romney's Mystifying "Jewish Geography" (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
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    "Jewish geography" is not a slur (check wikipedia) it's how strangers from a small but farflung community establish their connectedness by comparing (church, school, extended family).  People in the venture capital community do this by comparing what companies they worked for and looking for overlaps.

    And Romney is doing the same thing, establishing his credibility by who he knows (sports team owners etc) and his  personal credentials (church, school, extended family).   That is how he connects, by establishing his status as an insider in an elite group. Mittens has been playing the nepotism card since he was a toddler.

    Most people hear Romney and and baffled by Willard's behavior.

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:48:30 AM PDT

  •  cannot be allowed to assume the presidency?? (1+ / 0-)
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    "Mitt Romney is inhumane, and cannot be allowed to assume the presidency."

    And exactly, how do you propose to prevent him from assuming the presidency? If Diebold can't win it for him the Supreme Court will appoint him.

    And, if he doesn't win, guess who will be elected? Barack Obama, the second choice of the Capitalist Party. As GE workers are being thrown out of work and high paying production jobs are moved to cheap labor in China, our dear leader says nothing and does nothing.

    This is why we have a two-party system??

    •  Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, (5+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Mayfly, laserhaas, investorb, orlbucfan, Matt Z

      how did you enjoy the play?

      So you don't have your Perfect Candidate, whoever that might be, so you're just going to sit this one out? Fine, then don't come back here and bitch when President Romney sets up the Supreme Court to be filled with corporatists for the next quarter-century, with rulings that make Citizens United look like a playground spat and setting up humanity as second and third class citizens.

      I've got news for you -- every politician is going to do shit you don't agree with. The only way you'll find someone who agrees with you 100% is if you look in a mirror.

      The optimist sees the glass as half-full. The pessimist sees the glass as half-empty. The realist just knows she's thirsty.

      by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:50:47 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I concur arharris, If you all knew the Mitt I know (0+ / 0-)

      you would understand that he will TAKE anything they can.

      They don't need to rig much - just a few KEY electoral states. The one's they have in the bag are in the bag.

      With Bush v Gore and the Conservative Sup Ct
      Romney has already stolen the GOP from his own
      (Iowa, Michigan, Maine)

      He and the powers behind him - will NOT permit a mere technicality - like who got the most votes

      get in their way!

      If you desire a better world - be a better person.

      by laserhaas on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 09:10:22 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Mitt and money: a thought experiment (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
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    Everyone's seen the photo of Mitt and his cronies mugging with money in their hands, pockets, and mouths.  Now, try to imagine a similar pose from other wealthy Americans who have stepped up to lead:  TR, FDR, JFK.  Doesn't work, does it?  That picture defines the difference between wealth and avarice.

  •  Dogs already knew Romney was inhumane. (5+ / 0-)

    My dogs ride inside.

    Remember, you can't have crazy without az.

    by Desert Rose on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:22:42 AM PDT

  •  Yes, Romney is a strange rich dude, but... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    laserhaas, Only Needs a Beat

    I've written elsewhere my analysis of his political ambitions: he is a true believer in the fiscally conservative, corporatist ideology that applying coldly objective big-business methods to the national government is the only way to save it from sloppy thinkers who consistently fail to keep their focu$$ on the bottom line. He really doesn't give a hoot about any of the social conservative or teabagger line of hooey, which is why he is all over the road on so many issues.

    But this morning, I had a very eye-opening thought. What if Romney wasn't running? What would the Republican line-up look like then?

    Maybe Huntsman would now be in Romney's position and nothing would really have changed, but it was still a chilling thought.

    •  I know gshenaut, I have the same thoughts, but for (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Only Needs a Beat

      selfish reasons.

      Romeny/ Bain and gang took everything I own and the same from my friends and company.

      We are happy he is getting all the attention - that Now, (finally) Justice may come

      But it is  Big Risk

      What if he succeeds in another Bush v Gore coup de grace?


      If you desire a better world - be a better person.

      by laserhaas on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 09:13:49 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Romney makes Reagan look like Einstein. (0+ / 0-)

    And Ronbo was dumb to begin with--he just had the corporate Fascists behind him. Man, could they run the media, as they were buying it up like crazy back then.

    Romney is counting on the same cynical calculus the Repukes and DLCorporate bank on: how dumbed down the American populace is now. No matter that they have us in a Depression.

    A ton of folks are hurting including here in teh South. Check it out in November.

    Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

    by orlbucfan on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 02:00:24 PM PDT

  •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

    that the current trend is towards more compassion and cooperation.  But, I'll bet 100 years from now that another Ronald Reagan will appear, reminding people once again about the righteous benefits of selfishness and greed...once the pain and suffering of this depression is forgotten...

    "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

    by La Gitane on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 05:34:01 PM PDT

  •  Poor Mitt his fathers brainwash skipped to the (0+ / 0-)

    next generation.  George lost out in the primaries in the 60s after claiming he had been brainwashed in Viet Nam by generals.  Of course he was telling the truth and lost unfairly.  He was a personable and popular governor here in Michigan but Mitt only got the brainwash.

    Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends.

    by J Edward on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 06:01:16 PM PDT

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