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President Barack Obama reacts to a BlackBerry message in the Treaty Room office in the private residence of the White House, March 21, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
  • Research In Motion experienced more turmoil last week as the BlackBerry franchise continued its descent. The company's new CEO appears to be waving the white flag and looking for a triage sale. Part of CEO Thorsten Heins plan involves full-on retreat from the consumer market and focusing on corporate, government, and developing nations. One RIM insider suggests moving towards Microsoft by adopting the Windows Phone platform. I think that's about right. Only an alignment with Microsoft can save the BlackBerry brand. Heins' strategy is no more than a deathwatch.
  • Nokia has adopted this Windows Phone-centered strategy. AT&T is planning a major rollout of Nokia's Lumia 900 this week. Anecdotal, of course, by my oldest teenage daughter is a huge fan of HTC's Windows Phone and she's no slouch when it comes to these things.
  • So we all know President Obama famously carries a presidential BlackBerry. With RIM's troubles, will he stick with it?
    A recent survey indicated that the BlackBerry is still the favorite smartphone on Capitol Hill, but the Globe and Mail warns that change is in the air.

    "In Washington’s watering holes and at expensive restaurants where lobbyists power-lunch," writes Koring, "Droids and iPhones are obviously making inroads."

    I've been a BlackBerry user for ten years now. I'm looking at Android and Windows if RIM doesn't get it together, and I mean quick. Perhaps the President is considering the same thing. Politically, the narrative of moving on to new and better things could have some currency.
  • Foxconn, the Chinese company that manufactures for Apple, has promised to implement the recommendations of a Fair Labor Association audit:
    "Foxconn has participated fully and openly in this review of Apple-focused business groups at our Longhua and Guanlan campuses in Shenzhen and our campus in Chengdu and this process is part of our long-standing commitment to working together with our customers to ensure that our employees are treated fairly and their rights are fully protected," Foxconn said in a statement.
    The review was commissioned by Apple.
  • Speaking of Apple, the next iPhone (possibly this Fall) is likely to have 4G LTE and possibly an even better camera than the 4s. The question is what will they call it?
  • Google's Linux-based Android platform continues to lead the market share battle:
    Nielsen revealed that the majority of U.S. smartphone subscribers (about 48 percent) are using Google's Android devices, while 32.1 percent are using Apple's iPhone. The rest of the market is made up of BlackBerry owners (11.6 percent) and users of "other" smartphones.

    Nielsen's numbers align closely with similar research conducted by comScore and released on March 6.

  • A telling statistic:
    The era of smartphones has officially arrived. More were shipped globally last year than client PCs for the first time ever, according to Canalys.


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  •  "Us" versus "Them" (3+ / 0-)

    a few thoughts on politics, society, and more, this post to which I invite your attention


    "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

    by teacherken on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:02:57 PM PDT

  •  Windows Phones (3+ / 0-)
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    OpherGopher, Mr Robert, LordMike

    I don't see what makes them interesting to a consumer who is choosing a smartphone platform.

    "I'll believe that corporations are people when I see Rick Perry execute one."

    by bink on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:04:12 PM PDT

    •  If they do it right (2+ / 0-)
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      malharden, koNko

      (and yes, that's a pretty big "if" considering MSFT's track record), it could be a big success -- if they tie it into Windows as seamlessly as iOS ties in to the MacOS (which could involve an entry into cloud computing), Windows users might decide to stick with what they're familiar with.

      With the iPhone, I can download an app and it'll automatically backup on my iMac the next time I open iTunes. Windows Phone will need that same sort of functionality, as well as developers who are willing to add a third platform to their development strategy.

      The optimist sees the glass as half-full. The pessimist sees the glass as half-empty. The realist just knows she's thirsty.

      by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:16:03 PM PDT

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    •  Windows Phone is frigging fantastic. (2+ / 0-)
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      cpm78, SlowNomad

      I understand that there is a huge percentage of the consumer market that will simply do exactly what the neighbor does (which explains the popularity of Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - both brutally under-featured and vanilla) but people truly do themselves a disservice to simply dismiss Windows Phone.

      Those who are tech savvy simply come back with the "I don't like Bill Gates" mantra.

      But consider that the mobile market really is the only market where Microsoft has had to compete from behind and hasn't been able to get by simply by buying IP (WinZip) or hammering everyone with incumbency (MS Word).

      They had to make a great product in order to come from behind.

      And they have.

      It's kind of a shame that consumers aren't generally objective enough to give them credit.

      "I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy

      by malharden on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:40:08 PM PDT

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      •  My first smartphone (1+ / 0-)
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        ...was a Samsung Omnia, "powered" (or should I say "diminished") by Windows Mobile.

        If they manage to work out the kinks - by which I mean totally overhaul the entire system to make it remotely usable and incorporate some innovations, they might have something.

        If they don't, they're not going to catch up by means of consumer confidence. They'll have to use the ol' Microsoft muscle to move those things.

        The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

        by lotusmaglite on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:50:10 PM PDT

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      •  I would buy a Windows Phone if (1+ / 0-)
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        I had to give up iOS for some reason. I feel like there's a general form over function issue with it overall, but it's a well designed OS with silky smooth transitions and clever features.

        I've yet to ever use a version of Android that I can say that about, though. I haven't had a chance to play with ICS yet though.

        That all said, my fiancé works for RIM. I'm rooting for them if only because they're actually a great company to work for. The Microsoft speculation has been around since last year, and it's something I hope comes to fruition.

        My style is impetuous.
        My defense is impregnable.

        by samfish on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:00:32 PM PDT

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    •  perhaps because (1+ / 0-)
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      tb mare

      OSX and i-OS are full of viruses and can be hacked in less than ten seconds whereas the Andriod and Windows phones cannot be hacked at all.


      Because you are not forced to nickle and dime yourself at Apple's inexhaustable link to your wallet.

      Where there is no vision, there is no hope. George Washington Carver

      by Amayupta yo on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:20:05 PM PDT

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      •  You're kidding, right? (1+ / 0-)
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        You got it totally backwards.

        •  No, you are bought by advertising (0+ / 0-)

          OSX and iOS are in fact riddled with viruses and because folks like you do not buy anti-virus software Apple products are far more liable to have viruses. Apple lies about this and you buy into thier lie.

          OSX and iOS can be hacked in less than ten seconds while it takes six weeks to hack Windows 7 and Windows phone cannot be hacked at all.  ( Linux and Android cannot be hacked)

          But you just go ahead and pay next generation prices for last generation products and let any virus or hacker play havoc with you.


          Where there is no vision, there is no hope. George Washington Carver

          by Amayupta yo on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 06:15:35 AM PDT

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      •  Dude/Dudette ... (0+ / 0-)

        Today is April 2 (at least where I am).

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:02:45 PM PDT

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        •  Google OSX malware (0+ / 0-)

          then check out the results of the Comsec yearly hacking contest.  

          The hackers have been able to hack the same security flaw on OSX five years in a row in less than ten seconds.  Apple has done nothing to fix that flaw while Winows took six weeks to hack and they have already plugged that flaw.

           The Android and Windows phones could not be hacked but the i-phone fell in seconds.

          Truth is not Apple's strong suit, advertising is.  

          Where there is no vision, there is no hope. George Washington Carver

          by Amayupta yo on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 06:32:29 AM PDT

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    •  The word "Windows" is the word that kills them... (1+ / 0-)
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      Even though Windows Phone is supposedly pretty good and very developer friendly, Microsoft's long deserved reputation of delivering shoddy, bloated, dysfunctional software is the albatross hanging around their neck.  No one "chooses" to use Microsoft software, they use it because they have to.  Presented with other viable choices, very few consumers will willingly choose Microsoft, especially if it is branded with the toxic Windows moniker.

      Microsoft has significantly improved their quality, but the decades of "blue screens of death" have destroyed their reputation and brand with consumers.  Microsoft only holds clout with business, and they even managed to mess that up with the Windows Phone.  Business IT  friendly features were actually TAKEN OUT of the product compared to earlier releases of Windows Mobile!  Windows Phone could have been a blackberry killer, but it wanted to be like the iPhone instead.  Bad choice. consumers like Apple.  They hate MS.  In addition, Microsoft's relationship with carriers is either non-existent or toxic.  Ask any Verizon rep how they feel about Windows Mobile.  Previous Microsoft attempts at smartphones were nightmares for both the vendors and carriers.  They aren't interested in trying again.

      Unfortunately, Microsoft is going to drag down Nokia with them.  That's truly a shame.


      by LordMike on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 05:09:11 PM PDT

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      •  Think "Metro" /eom (1+ / 0-)
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        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:03:14 PM PDT

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        •  Metro has a good chance at making waves... (1+ / 0-)
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 the tablet arena, since there isn't a really good "anti-iPad" option out, yet, but phones are going to be much tougher for them.


          by LordMike on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 12:26:52 AM PDT

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          •  Actually, I wonder about the desktop (0+ / 0-)

            Phones will depend on consumer acceptance, full stop. They can count on some good handset OEMs to release products, but if customers don't like the interface or developers don't deliver apps, it could fail. I was really surprised when Nokia jumped all-in and killed MEGO after releasing one phone, but it was reported they considered Android and passed on it after meeting a lukewarm attitude at Google (strange) and high level support at MS (no surprise). Still - why put all your eggs in one unproven basket? Guess they want to narrow focus.

            Metro looks natural for a tablet and integrating MS productivity apps cannot hurt. Rather, it could force Apple to try harder on iWork and possibly bundle them. Competition between them would be good for everyone.

            One of the reported strong point of Metro is it is multitasking, verses IOS where you toggle in and out of most applications (except for players, radio, etc). With Metro you can flip through active tiles/apps.

            Where I see Metro a risk is on the desktop because they have radically altered the interface to be very tablet/group oriented and THERE IS NO START BUTTON OR TOOLBAR.

            I haven't tried the beta myself yet but some reviews I read say this really takes some adjustment and is a bit confusing at first, so MS will include a "start-up" tutorial on first boot.

            That will put off some users - remember the "ribbon" debacle? If MS users can't tolerate that Metro may scare them.

            What I find interesting here is that Apple is taking an evolutionary approach to OSX/IOS convergence, and Microsoft a revolutionary one with a high concept of top-down integration. If they can make it work, I say more power to them.

            I wouldn't put myself in the "PCs are dead" crowd, but with better integration and migration toward cloud computing, I definitely see Tablets taking over a large segment of the market and being a better, cheaper, more user-friendly device in many applications. One of my colleagues who's a lab manager already about 80% using her iPad and is seldom found in her cubicle anymore, which is OK with her because it saves time. Lots of people could get through life without a PC at this point, it's perfect for walker/talkers like sales people.

            Right now it's Apple's market to lose, and Microsoft's imperative to get a foothold, so it should be interesting.

            Battle of the MAC-WIN Titans, take two. Different underdog this time.

            What about my Daughter's future?

            by koNko on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 06:13:36 AM PDT

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    •  The Windows proposition is this (0+ / 0-)

      Single developer software (like IOS), multiple developer hardware (like Android), full integration with Windows 8 PC operating system (something neither IOS or Android offer).

      At this point, the lack of apps makes it not terribly compelling, but potentially, at least for business users, it's an attractive proposition since it would provide greater functionality with productivity apps they already use. That will also provide a nice integration path for current developers of Windows applications, which are legion. Potentially, it wipes Blackberry off the map.

      This might not seem like much, but if you consider the possibilities of MS Metro platform (mobile/desktop) as a single OS Server, PC, Tablet & Handset ecosystem, with a huge existing installed base of the first 2 elements, it could actually be quite compelling for many users particularly corporate/industrial users where Windows is the dominant OS. The machines that make IOS and Android hardware run Windows XP or Windows 7 - MS is huge in the business/industrial world and their users have equity in the system.

      And, it appears, Microsoft has learned it's lessons with Zune and will not compete with handset developers, unlike Google which has stumbled with it's Motorola acquisition, which is pissing-off handset makers who do not believe Google in not going to compete with them down the road.

      Personally, I believe this is a make it or break it moment for Microsoft and that they are likely to do a good job on the OS. Whether they get to critical mass in the consumer market remains to be seen but they seem to be getting their duckies in a row on development and have several major developers lined up (Nokia, HTC, Samsung already on board) so they have a chance. I believe large segments of the business market are theirs for the taking, RIM's days are numbered.

      Goggle, despite their success, has stumbled in two important areas:

      First, the semi-open OS has caused developers problems since they have to tailor aps to a moving target of hardware standards, which costs them time and money they can't afford. The question many are asking is "can you make money writing Android aps?"

      Second, the Motorola acquisition. No one but Goggle's PR Department believes they are not going to compete with handset and tablet developers; the only thing that would convince the industry of that is if they sold-off or wound-up the division. Business-wise, Google is not to be trusted because they are a bigger bull in a china shop than Microsoft ever was, they mow-down anyone in their path if they can do it.

      So I'm going to go out on a limb to say Microsoft has a pretty good value proposition and a good shot at success, if they don't screw it up, and I think they know they can not afford to screw-up this time.

      So let's see what happens.

      BTW, for the record, I'm a multi-platform user:

      - By choice, an OSX/IOS PC, Smartphone and Tablet user.
      - By necessity, a Windows and Blackberry user.
      - Out of curiosity, and itinerant Android user.
      - By necessity & choice, a linux user

      So I have enough dogs in the fight to hope MS does a good job so I can dump the BBY if they get knocked-off by Windows, which I think is likely to happen.

      RIM CEO: Thankless/Hopeless job. Poor sucker.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:55:39 PM PDT

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      •  Problem is, they did not cater the phone... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...for corporate IT, and most Microsoft shops are not adopting it since the integration and security are poor--much worse than previous versions of Windows mobile.  Android is usually the first choice, since it is so customizable.  Microsoft shot themselves in the foot going out of the gate on this one.


        by LordMike on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 12:30:04 AM PDT

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        •  Interesting (0+ / 0-)

          I'm not actually a MS mobile user so this comes as a surprise to me. I would think they would have done a better jobs and providing security features optimized for Exchange.

          Our company IT Dept hasn't tested it and probably won't since they have decided for now not to support non-BBY devices for company email due to support concerns, although they tested IOS and Android, ranking IOS higher on security and remote locking/wiping.

          We run a high security ISO certified system, any device with significant vulnerabilities will not make it past the first gate.

          IOS has one know vulnerability I'm aware of related to retention of discoverable lists of handshakes for WiFi networks. I think the last upgrade patched that hole.

          What about my Daughter's future?

          by koNko on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 06:44:47 AM PDT

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  •  But, Are Those Actual Books on His Desk? (6+ / 0-)

    "Mitt Romney is, primarily, a corporation. If he is a person, it is only via the transitive property foisted upon us by the Supreme Court." Hunter

    by wild hair on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:06:59 PM PDT

  •  I switched from Berry to Droid 2 mos ago (11+ / 0-)

    And now wish I had done it sooner.  Unless your work platform requires you to have a Berry for security reasons, don't own a Berry.

    •  That is exactly why I use a BBY (0+ / 0-)

      Company issued, and because of security issues, it is the only device my company is likely to issue until Microsoft Metro kills Blackberry, which would probably make it the next choice.

      Otherwise, I'm an OSX/IOS user and occasional Android-curious playboy.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:06:56 PM PDT

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  •  nuclear power no longer economically viable (4+ / 0-)

    says a nuclear business ex-CEO:


    Never forget that the Republican War on Women originated with religion; the GOP is but theocracy's handmaiden.

    by Cedwyn on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:10:22 PM PDT

  •  I like using free stuff on VOIP but expect Google (0+ / 0-)

    me to the Android platform eventually to make their $ - otherwise I do like using RIM despite its lack of hip GUI - at least no one we know of is jumping out windows(sic) for them

    slutty voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare."

    by annieli on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:13:39 PM PDT

  •  Had a blackberry (3+ / 0-)
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    malharden, LordMike, peterfallow

    It was the worst POS phone that I have ever had.

    The man who knows and knows he knows not is a wise man

    by OpherGopher on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:14:57 PM PDT

  •  just call it "The Rotten" (2+ / 0-)
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    Minerva, basket
    Will Apple go with a wireless technology convention and name it the iPhone 4G or iPhone LTE?
    Will Apple go with a numbering scheme and name it the iPhone 6?
    Will Apple just pick the next number in the line and call it the iPhone 5?
    Will Apple throw all numbers out the window like they did with the iPad and just call it the new iPhone? This one is lame and like the iPad causes all sorts of confusion for tech writers.

    slutty voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare."

    by annieli on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:16:28 PM PDT

  •  Another Sunday night at 7:00 when I'll feel like (0+ / 0-)

    Bogie at the train station as I wait for an "Ask a Kossak" that never shows up.

  •  Don't need a smartphone... (2+ / 0-)
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    historys mysteries, peterfallow

    ... I don't have that many people I need to call on a regular basis or who need to call me, so I just have a basic flip-phone with renewable minutes.

    For smart stuff, I use an iPad (version 1).

    I vote we run Rick Scott out of Florida on a high-speed rail.

    by ObamOcala on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:17:21 PM PDT

    •  That's funny. I hardly ever actually (6+ / 0-)

      make a phone call on my smart phone.  But it has my two mutually exclusive confidential calendars merged for me, my app for looking up medications, my music, Shazam,  my spontaneous camera, the weather, 4 email accounts, a flashlight so I can find my hen's eggs in the dark, my kindle, and, oh, yeah, the internets.  Just to name a few.  

      iPhone for me.

      I was wise enough to never grow up while fooling most people into believing I had. - Margaret Mead

      by fayea on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:40:06 PM PDT

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      •  exactly: smartphones aren't just phones (2+ / 0-)
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        Satya1, tb mare

        I'm that way with my android phone. Frankly, I hate using a phone as a phone, but the smartphone part gives me near desktop PC functionality away from home, and is even better in some ways. For example, when I was traveling in Costa Rica, I used it extensively for map navigation, photography, note taking, and ebook reading - and that was all done with no voice/data connection. It's like a multitool for electronic productivity.

        •  ” aren't just phones” (2+ / 0-)
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          tb mare, quill

          True enough, but it might be more accurate still to drop the 'phone' part out of the device name.  Most computing platforms have had communications built in for decades.  Mini-tablets anyone?

          I use my droid  for reading books via Nook, reading news via the browser, GPS navigation, basically many things a computer does.

          It's a computer yet 1000s of times more powerful than my first desktop.  A nice side benefit:  no acoustic coupler.  ;)

          Oh, and I can comment here too of course.

          I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

          by Satya1 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 03:11:09 PM PDT

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          •  Gave my iPhone to my daughter (0+ / 0-)

            Damn thing was driving me nuts.

            It is useless as a computer because of the small screen, and if you increase the font size, you can only read 2 words at a time.

            The touch screen keyboards are a pain in the ass and impossible to use as again they are too small ( and why is the send button on the top right, when computer keyboards have the backspace/delete buttons on the top right? How many half complete texts did I send - just about every one)

            I am too old for an iPod - so that functionality was wasted.

            And as a phone, it was too big and too fragile.

            As for downloaded apps - mostly toys for geeks.

            Basically, - its a lousy phone and a lousy computer.

            •  hmmmm (0+ / 0-)
              ...if you increase the font size, you can only read 2 words at a time.
              My eyesight requires a slight correction for reading.  Yet even so, I can adjust my Nook software to be able to read as many as 80 - 100 words per screen without using my glasses.

              I understand if it's not the platform you want, but this particular comment doesn't wash.

              I am too old for an iPod
              Also, my 85 year old mom enjoys an iPod, so I don't think a certain age is required to use it.

              I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

              by Satya1 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 07:31:21 AM PDT

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              •  I am a grumpy old fart but.... (0+ / 0-)

                as for the nook, I thought that was an ebook reader, not a smartphone, and with a screen that must be about 4 times the size of an iPhone.

                As for the iPod, I was never into walking around with one of my senses cut off from the environment - never had a walkman either.But all the best to your 85 year old Mom, if that's what she likes then its the right thing for her.

                The other thing I hate about smartphones is that it turns kids into zombies. Take my partner's 2 teenage kids out to a restaurant, and they spend the whole time checking facebook on their phones. Like its really importznt to know that Ginny has justy got home and chillin to desperate housewives

                •  I agree wholeheartedly (0+ / 0-)

                  about the zombie part.  Many people seem pointlessly consumed by the smartphone devices even to the detriment of civil behavior for the person sitting next to them. There is a need for a modern Ms. Manners IMHO.  I don't think that when two people agree to go for an hour lunch it should automatically be assumed that each of them are also in a texting conversation with 2-3 others, interacting on a Facebook exchange, and watching a couple of Twitter accounts.  To me, just because a smartphone rings or wiggles doesn't mean I need to drop every other request for my attention.

                  About Nook:  We can download a Nook software application (app) of Nook for almost any hardware platform.  My daughter uses Nook software on her iPad.  I use Nook software on my android "mini-tablet" (T-Mobile myTouch).  I use 2 other reader software apps also because of the ease they acquire free literature for me (P.G Wodehouse, Twain, etc.)

                  My daughter and I also access Netflix on the same platforms.

                  The smartphones are almost exclusively marketed as an entertainment platform.  To anyone that uses spreadsheets on a regular basis, they may not be ready for prime time.  But they are computers.

                  Almost anything you can do in a  browser can be done with a smartphone.  Have an ear worm and just want to hear the song?  Load the Youtube's video.  Want a dictionary or thesaurus?  It's there.

                  It is possible to use a full size blue tooth keyboard with some.  Most business related software that comes with my android mini-tablet is loathsome or ridiculous.  I haven't yet explored biz software yet.

                  But it is still a great device.  I was at my doctor's office a while back and ended up with a 20 minute wait.  I got some email done, read the local paper and read a few pages of a book.

                  It's a new kind of information age with all this and much more at our fingertips.  But I still think that there is a primary need for humans to have space and time for solitude.  It's only by our own choice that we let the new information-everywhere devices crowd that out.

                  I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

                  by Satya1 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 08:23:09 AM PDT

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    •  I'm beginning to think that would have (2+ / 0-)
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      Mr Robert, historys mysteries

      been a smart move for me.  I've used little Nokia phones for years now, and they've always been good--I destroy them physically before they can wear out.  But I decided to go with a smart phone just a couple of days ago.  I'm not 100% sure with my decision, thinking that maybe I should have gone with a cheapy phone and a new iPad.  Hmmmm.

      •  I have a cheapy phone (2+ / 0-)
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        lotusmaglite, historys mysteries

        and an iPod Touch which does 90% of what the iPad does without any data charges--it's wireless only.

        Anyway, that combination works great for me. I can get my mail, browse the web, read books, and watch videos just like on an iPad. Sure the screen is a little small, but I find that even with my old eyes it's big enough and it fits in my hip pocket. Try that with an iPad.

        Honesty pays, but it doesn't seem to pay enough to suit some people. Kin Hubbard

        by Mr Robert on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:11:06 PM PDT

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        •  Couldn't go with WiFi only... (2+ / 0-)
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          ... I work outside, where there's no WiFi signal. And I work in Florida's "Thunderstorm Alley," so a must-have app is a lightning locator. (Just switched from Pinpoint Lightning, an iPhone-only app which looks terrible on the iPad - but worked, which is why it's the first app I bought - to LightningLocator, which is made for the iPad).

          In addition, I've tried the on-screen keyboards on the iPod Touch and iPhone, and my clumsy, fat fingers just couldn't use it very well. I like the iPad's big screen.

          I vote we run Rick Scott out of Florida on a high-speed rail.

          by ObamOcala on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:36:54 PM PDT

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        •  iPhone (1+ / 0-)
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          Mr Robert

          Most iPhone users have their handsets set up to default to WiFi when there is a connection available, and some, like my wife, use it primarily as a WiFi and voice phone device, set-up NOT to   connect to 3G services unless she really needs to.

          In future, when your iPod dies, I'd suggest you consider an iPhone because it is actually a lot more, and you can download all your aps and content from iCloud.


          What about my Daughter's future?

          by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:24:33 PM PDT

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      •  My smart phone is still a lot smarter than I am, (2+ / 0-)
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        historys mysteries, koNko

        but it's finally getting better after six months.  I finally hired a teen-ager to help me learn how to use the thing.  

      •  Shop around (0+ / 0-)

        I use a 4S and BBY, love the first and tolerate the second, but have played with androids and think Samsung and HTC have some very good phones I would consider if I was going to jump OS (unlikely).

        The merit of IOS/iPhone is simplicity and ecosystem, but there is a lot more choice of handsets with Android and a decent ecosystem.

        I expect the Windows ecosystem to develop nicely, actually, but that hasn't happened yet so it's a speculative buy, but if you are a loyal Nokia user, that is a consideration and the Lumina 900 is a pretty nice handset.

        The point I would stress is take time to shop around and don't make an impulse buy, ultimately the time investment in a smartphone is greater than a phone, you want a handset that fits your lifestyle.

        Suggest you browse reviews on CNET which has comprehensive reviews of virtually all phones.

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:19:37 PM PDT

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    •  Best phone I ever owned (1+ / 0-)
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      ...was a Samsung Alias (SCH-U740) - not a smartphone. That phone rocked so hard, I still have it. I need the smartphone for my work, but it I didn't I'd still be using it.

      Every other cell I've replaced I sent to the program that gives cellphones to the troops that need them, but I kept the Alias.

      The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

      by lotusmaglite on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:00:15 PM PDT

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    •  I have (0+ / 0-)

      2 smart pones (4s, BBY) and a humble GPS (Sony) I use to make calls & SMS for CHEAP.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:11:02 PM PDT

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  •  Had a Motorola Citrus android phone (1+ / 0-)
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    but it sucked and I traded it in before the contract was up.

    The iPhone 4S I've got now is probably more powerful than my laptop, though I can't print from it and I like the keyboard on the 'puter.

    Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
    ¡Boycott Arizona!

    by litho on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:17:29 PM PDT

    •  I have a folding Bluetooth keyboard (1+ / 0-)
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      I carry with me if I want to do a lot of typing and have a good flat surface -- for example if I'm waiting for the spouse to pick me up at the library or Starbucks and I don't have my laptop with me. Takes a little getting used to but works pretty well. And I have the Dropbox app so anything I write on the iPhone syncs seamlessly with both my iMac and my Macbook.

      The optimist sees the glass as half-full. The pessimist sees the glass as half-empty. The realist just knows she's thirsty.

      by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:25:38 PM PDT

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  •  A Sunday Diary from CityLightsLover? (1+ / 0-)
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    Why yes! Come on over! I like my BlackBerry awfully very much; it's very intuitive to how I think. I got the hang of it quick. So, I'll only switch to another smart phone if I absolutely must.

    "Republicans NEED to scare people." Markos Moulitsas 2/13/12 on COUNTDOWN W/KEITH OLBERMANN

    by CityLightsLover on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:17:57 PM PDT

  •  Bill Maher resumes his show by being...Bill Maher (0+ / 0-)

    ....nice try Sean....keep it have all sorts of friends in the

  •  bbb, if the President is smiling, it's a call from (0+ / 0-)

    Michelle.  If it is a smirk, could be Bebe, or Putin.

  •  I don't use a smart phone as I don't want (4+ / 0-)
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    to be 'connected' 24/7 and EVERYWHERE.  Yeah, I can turn the damned thing off, but I just don't see the need to be able access the 'net while spending time talking and eating with friends.  I want to be 'there', not wandering around the 'net.

    The only reason why I got the first cell phone was that I was going to be on the road for an hour at a time and Mom wanted me to be able to call for help should anything happen on the road.  I now keep it because it's cheaper than 'standard' long distance and with working in another state, I can call back home to check on things.

    I'm coming to despise Sundays.... it's the day I have to drive back to the apartment for my 'job'.  It's a 3 hour drive and it's getting boring.  But, in order to get money to pay for the things I need to pay for (house, electric, gas, food, etc), this is what I must do.  I am still searching and applying for positions that are either here in town or telecommute.

    •  Good luck. (1+ / 0-)
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      For all the hype about telecommuting, it's not widespread enough to count on as a way of life yet.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:34:01 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah, I know. I'm a computer programmer, one (1+ / 0-)
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        of the positions that is suited to telecommuting.  My idea of telecommuting would be to work from home the majority of the time, or a local office branch (like banks - the corporate IT is resided in x location, but have branches that service people where I could have an office somewhere in the back and can be 'monitored' by their system), and travel to the 'home' office a few times a year for physical meetings and stuff.

        •  I'm a programmer too and have the (2+ / 0-)
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          option of telecommuting when I need to. Don't get me wrong, it's extremely convenient when I need to be home for a delivery or repairman, or feeling a little sick but not sick enough to use a sick day, or when it's snowing, stuff like that. But it's not all it's cracked up to be. It can get pretty boring, and you miss out on collaboration with your coworkers.

          Many ideas and solutions have been thought of while hanging around the water cooler so to speak (we don't have an actual water cooler at work, just a drinking fountain that sprays water everywhere). A lot of that would be missed if we were all working from home.

          Of course, I have the luxury that a lot of development teams at my employer don't have - all of my coworkers are in the same location. I work at a large company, so some development teams are spread out. My last team had people all over the country. In that case, telecommuting wasn't as bad since you're normally only communicating with your coworkers via email, IM and phone and there's no face to face contact, you could do the job from Timbuktu as long as you had an internet connection and phone.

          "How come when it’s us, it’s an abortion, and when it’s a chicken, it’s an omelette?" - George Carlin

          by yg17 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:02:07 PM PDT

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          •  Yup - that's my job (1+ / 0-)
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   could do the job from Timbuktu as long as you had an internet connection and phone...
            I have a cubicle at my company's building about 10 miles away. I'll go in tomorrow, because a colleague I'm mentoring is coming in for the day from a couple hours away. But I'll start my day with a 6:30am call with three guys in Israel. Tuesday will begin with a conference call with people in four states and three countries.

            My manager's a couple hours away; I see him 3-4 times/year, I guess. The coworker with whom I work most closely is in Oregon.

            I mostly work from home.

            "I like to go into Marshall Field's in Chicago just to see all the things there are in the world that I do not want." M. Madeleva, C.S.C.

            by paxpdx on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 02:01:07 PM PDT

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          •  Yeah, I know..... Right now I'm contract for a (0+ / 0-)

            company that's 3 hours from 'home' and I have an efficiency at the work location.  I'm fairly certain that I'm seen as 'the help' with no inclination to hire permanently.  I'm here to convert tables, according to them..... I'm in it for money and not much else.  So, working from home could save me around $750 a month in rent, electricity, 'net, and gas.

            Now, if it were a permanent job placement, I'd think differently.

            For the current contract job... I would like to be able to work from home by August and come over for a week each month for face time that may be needed.  I know that they have employees call in for meetings and web in to be able to see the screens that are topic of discussions.

          •  I telecommute everyday (0+ / 0-)

            With my smarphone on the train on the way to/from the office.

            Is there an app for "Beam me up, Scotty"? I'd pay 99 cents for that.

            What about my Daughter's future?

            by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:35:46 PM PDT

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    •  Have you tried Pandora? (1+ / 0-)
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      I really don't 'need' a smartphone either, although I have started to get used to catching up on the emails from some volunteer work I do while walking the dog. A little multitasking makes both chores less tedious.

      But I digress. My point was that an iPhone is just an iPod with fairly ordinary cellphone features tacked on; but, since the cellphone lets you connect to the Net all the time, wherever you are, it makes the iPod rock like, well, if you like iPods you just have to try it to understand how profound it is.

      I am now totally hooked on Pandora, since I can use it all the time when I'm in the car -- never listen to the radio anymore, to say the least. If I'm not in the mood for music, I browse to Rachel Maddow in iTunes, again, from wherever I am, and listen to last night's TRMS podcast, or Democracy Now! if I've already listened to the other.

      All the other frills I could easily do without. Having my iPod, podcasts, and Pandora with me wherever I go, always available to stream, that I can no longer do without.

  •  Never really saw the need (6+ / 0-)

    for a smartphone -- I wasn't working for some large corporation after all -- till I got my first iPhone (3G). Now I don't know how I could live without it. Oh, I could live without my mother-in-law being able to get hold of me easily...but thanks to the iPhone I never have to carry around a paper bus schedule (I can look up transit information easily), I have books and magazines I can read when I have a spare moment, and games to keep me entertained when on the bus.

    The optimist sees the glass as half-full. The pessimist sees the glass as half-empty. The realist just knows she's thirsty.

    by Cali Scribe on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:21:17 PM PDT

    •  Same here (2+ / 0-)
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      BachFan, Pam from Calif

      Wasn't getting the iPhone hype until I owned one. I can do a lot of things with it. Phone, text, email, GPS voice directions in car, update blog, shoot photos and video, edit photos and video, read books, magazines, play games, alarm clock, timer, and many more interesting and useful things.

      It's a miniature computer.

      For business travel, I picked up a Dell Mini 9 for MS Office application work, but find the iPhone is still the go-to device whenever I can use it. If you're going to carry around a device, might as well make it something useful.

      Every day's another chance to stick it to the man. - dls

      by The Raven on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:19:09 PM PDT

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    •  Or your wife. (0+ / 0-)

      Facetime keeps honest men honest.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:36:52 PM PDT

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  •  Blackberry still leads in NYC (0+ / 0-)

    but that will change soon if BB doesn't get its act together. Their customer service is AWFUL.

    •  They need to get the phones right. (2+ / 0-)
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      basket, BachFan

      Obviously, building a quality smartphone has to be job one. I have the latest and greatest blackberry and its far behind apple, google, and windows in terms of feature-set. BB OS is still slow, cumbersome, and lacking popular and innovative apps.

      Quite frankly, I'd be ok with the scrapping the whole thing and using windows. Its working pretty well in reviving Nokia.

      •  Windows Metro (0+ / 0-)

        Is likely to kill BBY, see my long comment elsewhere.

        Short Version: MS has a huge installed base of corporate Windows and Exchange users, that is likely to become a more compelling platform than BBY Server.

        Presently I use a company BBY and iPhone, the BBY is great for email and is a secure platform (the main attraction for corporate users) but iPhone has most of the functions and Android is not far behind (but still too dodgy for many IT Depts) .

        The merit of Metro will be full Windows integration, which has many interesting possibilities. If they don't screw it up, MS could have a winner, at least for corporate market, where iPhone is too expensive and too much fun.

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:44:11 PM PDT

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  •  It's time for me to buy a new phone. (0+ / 0-)

    My contract is up (Sprint), and my Sprint rep tells me I can get a smart phone now.  He also tells me if I have a tablet, which I do, that I don't need a smart phone to use app's, watch TV and movies, or read papers, books and blogs.

    So I'm torn.  I don't know what to do.  I know nothing about Android vs. IPhone or one operating system from another - what are the benefits and limitations of each, what platform is most stable, which will take the least time to learn.  I don't want to suffer learning-curve shock.

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:22:26 PM PDT

    •  I don't know anything about the (0+ / 0-)

      Android, but the iPhone is truly intuitive.  Essentially no learning curve.  

      I was wise enough to never grow up while fooling most people into believing I had. - Margaret Mead

      by fayea on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:43:37 PM PDT

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    •  Apple and Oranges (3+ / 0-)
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      ...pun intended.

      You won't go wrong with either. iPhone has a great display, great camera, smooth-as-glass OS and integration with Macs, and lots of great apps. The drawbacks are, well, it's Apple. They force you into their proprietary stuff, are awful to third party developers, and in some areas (network, for instance), they lag behind.

      Android phones are many and varied, so you can pick and choose, the OS is open-source, so lots and lots of people can develop all sorts of apps, and it does everything the iPhone does. The drawbacks are slogging through a thousand crap apps to get to the good ones, their media apps - while more varied than Apples - are clunky, and their interface with computers isn't quite as seamless as an iPhone or (probably) a Windows Phone.

      That's just an off-the-top-of-my-head primer.

      The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

      by lotusmaglite on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:08:07 PM PDT

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    •  Problem with Android (3+ / 0-)
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      lotusmaglite, BachFan, koNko

      is the fragmenting of the O/S.

      Each manufacturer and carrier produces its own variations so there's no single target for app developers, they're reluctant to write for Android.

      Another problem is O/S updating, Android users are at the mercy of their carriers for updates and the process is very slow. Only a small percentage (about 10%) of Androids are running the latest version of the O/S and some never will. This is because the carriers are slow to issue updates, iOS (Apple) does not have this problem because Apple issues the updates.

      •  Good info (0+ / 0-)

        Yes, I forgot to mention that the robust development also leads to fragmenting.

        The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

        by lotusmaglite on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:11:49 PM PDT

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      •  fragmentation is not reallyso much of a problem (0+ / 0-)

        fragmentation is not reallyso much of a problem since most consumers buy a phone and just use whatever OS version its got on it, and mostly all android apps work on all handsets on all versions froyo onwards, which means most phones these days. Besides, the average replacement time on a smartphone is now 12 months, so most people will be unaffected by an aging OS (ie "fragmentation") re their app choices.

        Development for android platform isn't made much more difficult since in most cases its just a matter of changing a few layout files and repackaging, with the exception that porting a phone app to tablet can be a pain, esp if the dev didn't follow UI guidelines (common for iOS app ports).

        There is one area where fragmentation can be a problem: phones and tabs that have a carrier overlay, like motoblur or htc sense. In those cases, some apps don't work right with them. I resolve this personally by simply not buying phones with overlay interfaces, which is always a choice. That's what I like about android: choice. You have so many choices for android phones and tablets. Need a keypad? Big screen? Small handset? Waterproof and rugged? There's an android phone for that...

        •  Actually it is. (0+ / 0-)

          Lots of developers are complaining and some have already jumped ship because of the additional work required to make apps play well on different platforms. Given the competitiveness and low cost of Android apps, this means a more difficult path to profitability and higher risk for app developers.

          And it is hurting hardware makers who need more development time to adapt to the new versions - just look at how many current handsets "will soon have Ice Cream Sandwich" and get negative reviews because they lack it.

          Most handset makers have to develop multiple products in parallel on very short development cycles and they risk failure if they don't hit schedules. If you think they are happy with Android just because they develop for it you, and Google, might have another think coming.

          This is one factor that gives MS an opportunity at this late date.

          What about my Daughter's future?

          by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 09:03:55 PM PDT

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      •  Good point. (0+ / 0-)

        I raise this elsewhere. Someday, there will actually be Ice Cream Sandwiches for sale. In multiple flavors. And then, some apps.

        This is one of the key drawbacks of Android for both hardware and software developers, and something I comment on elsewhere. The other negative for developers is the Google acquisition of Motorola, which is making hardware developers unhappy - no one believe Google "will not compete" - it is not in their DNA.

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:54:24 PM PDT

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    •  iOS is like automatic transmission, Android (1+ / 0-)
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      is like manual transmission -- not my own metaphor, but I think it's absolutely true.

      If you want to be able to do a fair bit of stuff without learning HOW it all works, get an iPhone.  It's very visually oriented, and a lot of common functions are covered by "pre-set" options, so you don't have to read through an operating manual before you start using it.

      If you want to be able to customize pretty much exactly what your smartphone does, then get a smartphone running some flavor of Android.  I've heard the Samsung Galaxy line is pretty good, and has decent battery life as well.

      Personally, I'm still rocking my Palm Pre, running webOS ... I've been a Palm gal ever since I bought a Palm Pilot back in the Stone Ages (aka the late 1990s).  And I will cry when the Pre eventually breaks and I have to move to a new system, even though I'm still peeved at webOS for taking several steps backward from the software that ran my Palm Treo 700p.

      "Specialization is for insects." -- Heinlein

      by BachFan on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 02:10:58 PM PDT

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      •  I went from 5 y/o little flip phone (1+ / 0-)
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        to Android and found it perfectly intuitive and simple to learn the functions. YMMV.

        A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen, and philosophers and divines. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

        by tb mare on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 03:22:07 PM PDT

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        •  IOS is much cleaner (0+ / 0-)

          I have/do use both.

          Choosing IOS was natural for me because I'm an OSX user, but I have bought 2 and played with several Android devices (the one I liked best is Sony Experia miniPro, a great little Android with a slide out QWERTY keyboard - now used by my sister who borrowed it and won't give it back) .

          But IOS is more simple, standard and predictable, and the software is less buggy because there is one hardware and software spec.

          The merit of Android is greater choice of hardware, I see ZERO OS advantages. Works most of the time, but not better.

          What about my Daughter's future?

          by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 09:11:19 PM PDT

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      •  Good analogy. (0+ / 0-)

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 09:04:33 PM PDT

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    •  The sum of parts is actually greater (0+ / 0-)

      Our household is IOS centric and we find the one iPad in great demand (usually our daughter wins possession because she's a better whiner).

      I'd say use the tablet as the determining factor to chose the IOS and phone. Although I use IOS, Andorid has more choices of devices, including small tablets like Samsung Galaxy S, which seems to be a nice compromise if you only want one device. With a wireless headset, you avoid holding a clunky tablet to your ear to make calls. One on my workmates has a Galaxy and really loves it.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:49:56 PM PDT

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  •  I have been listening to a internet radio show (1+ / 0-)
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    historys mysteries

    for a few months. The DJ does a liberal rant every week. The show includes cussing and drinking, so if you don't like that it won't be for you. The show is the Dementia Radio network which plays parody and video game songs.

    Here's a rant of his from last year.

    If you want to listen, the show is on at 10 pm EDT/7 pm WDT on Dementia Radio. You'll need to click on the listen button and have a media player to play the show. The rant is usually around 30 minutes into the show if you wish listen to only that part.

  •  I was under the imprewsion that (1+ / 0-)
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    one of the main reasons Blackberry got such a huge market share was because of the superb security they offered.

    Has that changed?  Or has security in the competitors merely risen to their level?  YOu don't mention this in your diary.

    may we not be strangers in the lush province of joy - Charles Wright

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:32:36 PM PDT

    •  I don't think that was the whole reason. (0+ / 0-)

      Their security is good, true. But this is a defensible advantage. The others won't need to do much to catch up, if they haven't already.


    •  For awhile, smartphone and Blackberry were (3+ / 0-)
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      lotusmaglite, BachFan, LordMike

      interchangeable words. If you wanted a smartphone, you got a Blackberry. Palm and Windows Mobile were barely blips on the radar. The iPhone and Android came along, and Blackberry didn't evolve fast enough.

      I don't know too much about the security aspects. Pretty sure all of the major platforms support encryption on some basic level (like SSL, so the average joe with a packet sniffer can't view e-mails going to and from your e-mail server when on an open WiFi network), but Blackberry might support something stronger that's DoD/gov't approved.

      "How come when it’s us, it’s an abortion, and when it’s a chicken, it’s an omelette?" - George Carlin

      by yg17 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:51:02 PM PDT

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  •  FYI new bike and pedestrian safety app on the way (0+ / 0-)

  •  I've always been an avid Mac user (3+ / 0-)
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    BachFan, historys mysteries, koNko

    but I live in Italy, where iPhones start at over 600 euros.  So, for the first time ever, I bought a non-Apple device when one was available.  I got a Samsung Galaxy Ace with Droid and I think I like it, though I've notice some OS glitches so far.  But at 1/3 the price of an iPhone, it seems worth it.  (I use a pre-paid SIM card, didn't want a 2 yr contract which would have made the iPhone 30 euros/month.)

    I really liked it most of all as a model of phone--thin and light, nice big screen but not too big.  If I wanted it any bigger, I'd just buy a tablet.  

  •  Does Romney have a strategy... (0+ / 0-) address the mine shaft gap?

    With the growth of hill-top removal mining, it can only be more acute now than it was in the 1960s.

    Hopefully, someone will ask him...

    Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore

    by Minerva on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:38:37 PM PDT

  •  Poor BlackBerry (1+ / 0-)
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    They really helped revolutionize phones, and now it's come to this. Going the way of Palm.

    The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

    by lotusmaglite on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 12:45:51 PM PDT

    •  Hubris (0+ / 0-)

      They thought no one else would be able to make secure phones and mail servers. They repeated that mantra on quarterly investor calls over and over. Guess the last call was different.

      They were wrong. And that ended-up not being the most important thing for the consumer market, where most of the growth is now.

      I use a corporate BBY and it's great for email but not much else. 5 years ago BBY was the functionally best smartphone. Now they are laggards and facing a pretty hopeless situation.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 10:00:28 PM PDT

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  •  Goldman Sachs linked to Underage Sex-Trafficking (0+ / 0-)

    What a surprise! GS linked to underage sex-trafficking website ( - click through below for the NY times article.  If you're feeling motivated, upvote my reddit so this hits the front page.

  •  While I don't have a smart phone (0+ / 0-)

    I do have an iPod Touch that I take with me along with a flip style phone for making calls. The iPod Touch does nearly everything the iPhone does except phone/data calls.

    It automatically syncs with my Yahoo mail account and lets me browse the web whenever I'm in a place with a wireless connection and that's enough for me.

    It would be nice to have the extra capabilities offered by an iPhone, but I just don't feel like paying the higher monthly fees that would be required so I'll stick with my iPod.

    Honesty pays, but it doesn't seem to pay enough to suit some people. Kin Hubbard

    by Mr Robert on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:00:29 PM PDT

  •  All you have to do is (0+ / 0-)

    find out which smartphone manufacturer makes the biggest contribution to his reelection campaign (i.e. to solve the “Will-he-dump-the-Blackberry" mystery).

  •  Blackberry is most secure (0+ / 0-)

    I think that the presidency will probably continue to use the blackberry simply because it's a lot harder to hack than any of the other phones.  I'm sure it connects to a blackberry server in the IT department which is where all the emails and such are actually stored, locked down like fort knox.

    Tradition says that God gave us choice. Some of His disciples act like it is up to them to remove it. ~ kjoftherock

    by catwho on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:34:25 PM PDT

    •  IOS has these functions now. (0+ / 0-)

      And is gaining more corporate users by the day, mainly because of iPADs and "freedom of choice". In fact, many government users including the frigging DOD, FBI and DOJ have approved IOS for high security use and are making a switch from Blackberry to IOS, which is pretty interesting.

      I use a personal iPhone 4S and corporate Blackberry. Our company considered allowing the use of IOS and Android for email, concluding IOS was secure and Android not, but that the extra cost and work to support non-Blackberry users was not justified (we have to run a high security system) so they are sticking with Blackberry for now.

      But I think Microsoft is actually in a position to take RIMs market because the same corporate users are typically Microsoft users at terminal level and the potential for Metro/Windows 8 to integrate better than any other platform for basic productivity apps makes an interesting value proposition for corporate users.

      IOS could do that too if more companies used iWork, but they don't, so I think MS actually has a stronger potential position for this market.

      Wildcard is iPAD, corporate users of iPAD are using it as a cheaper solution than PCs and this could swing some companies to their side.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 09:26:03 PM PDT

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      •  Don't be too sure (0+ / 0-)

        I know how to break into a "secure" iPad with one of those smart magnet locking covers in about ten seconds.  :)

        Some of our clients use them, not because they're cheaper, but because the form factor is conducive to certain uses (for example, the doctors will hand a patient an iPad with their Xray on it and let them see the stuff for themselves.)

        That, and for those who need to type a lot of words and type fast, the electrostatic is going to have a hard time replacing a fully functional tactile keyboard.

        Tradition says that God gave us choice. Some of His disciples act like it is up to them to remove it. ~ kjoftherock

        by catwho on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 01:29:33 PM PDT

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  •  I have a Palm Pre (deadware) Suggestions for... (1+ / 0-)
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    a new phone? I like real keyboards for typing emails, and I want a user-friendly function for shifting between activities. I also need a large screen.

    I really hope some big boy company buys the IP behind WebOS, the operating system on Pre, because it's MAGIC and operating systems on iPhones and DROID don't compare

    •  Get an Android phone (1+ / 0-)
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      If you want a physical keyboard, that eliminates anything from Apple.
      See what Android based devices with keyboards are available from your cell provider.
      I prefer Android because you can install anything you want (Apples bans and censors software for a whole host of reasons) and there's a diverse variety of hardware to choose from!

      Keep Christian mythology out of science class!

      by cybersaur on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 02:02:28 PM PDT

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    •  I'm babying my Palm Pre (0+ / 0-)

      because like you, I HATE the frickin' virtual keyboard on the Apple devices, and I much prefer webOS to iOS and to Android.

      But I still don't understand why webOS won't let me search my calendar when I could do that with Palm OS on my Treo 700p ... and why I can't assign a category (e.g., business or personal) to my contacts ... or why I can't sort my contacts by anything other than someone's last name.

      Anyway, I was kvetching last fall to one of my company's MIS guys (who I know also used Palm devices for his personal use), and he recommended the Samsung Galaxy as a decent replacement for the Palm Pre.  He said it wasn't a perfect replacement, but it was a good size, decently customizable, and had decent battery life.

      "Specialization is for insects." -- Heinlein

      by BachFan on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 02:18:27 PM PDT

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    •  Get an iPhone 4s and let Siri type for you. (1+ / 0-)
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      Personally, I have no trouble typing on my iPhone virtual keyboard. I'm a big guy with big hands, so I don't use my thumbs, I use my index fingers. I hold the phone in landscape mode, then sort of cradle the phone in both hands, then reach around with my index fingers. Works great!

      •  I use index fingers too (0+ / 0-)

        I have found it possible to type up to 5 random characters with my thumbs! Since I am also a BBY user, I actually have to retrain myself to use index fingers, but got the hang of it.

        Unfortunately, Siri is not available for Chinese yet so I don't use it much except for speed dialing or when visiting the US, where it works great (because everything is in English).

        In a few months, we will see if the Mandarin version works, and if it does, Apple will get another boost of market share in China. Mandarin voice recognition is actually a more difficult task because it's a tonal language, so I'm expecting the first version to be kind of buggy and requiring a larger database to support it.

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 09:35:22 PM PDT

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  •  The latest Consumer Reports ratings... (5+ / 0-)
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    have Android phones handily out classing the iPhones. The Samsung Galaxy S II is highest rated for AT&T, Sprint, and Tmobile while the Motorola Droid Razr Maxx is top dog for Verizon customers. Unfortunately, Apple has a real aversion to standardized USB ports and micro-SD cards. Such head-in-the-sand attitudes make the their i-devices overpriced and unattractive. It's a key reason I'd never consider an iPad if I were in the market for a tablet.

    With its phones lagging the latest android offerings, Apple could learn a lesson or two from BB's tribulations.

    Just another faggity fag socialist fuckstick homosinner!

    by Ian S on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:47:27 PM PDT

    •  nah (1+ / 0-)
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      Apple will never need to learn anything from their competitors: the reality distortion field has now been expanded to encompass the globe.

      Seriously, apple can sell whatever they want because now billions of people will buy their overpriced products and services with no critical comparison of features vs the competition. Apple is in the envious position where anything they launch now will be successful, by definition.

      Not a quality judgement on iStuff, just that you probably shouldn't expect to see usability features that will allow owners to leave the apple ecosystem.

    •  Apple owns the tablet market (0+ / 0-)

      By a very wide margin because it is simply better and has a ecosystem. It works.

      I agree the lack of micro SD is a minus but not a big one, and there are dongle solutions for people who need one (I don't).

      I'll predict Apple dumps the connector in the next generation, but whether it will go to USB or a micro version of Lightning is a question as Intel is putting it's weight behind Lighting in both copper and optical fiber versions, and the ability of this standard to daisy-chain multiple devices and transfer at much higher speeds makes it a natural for handhelds and ultrabooks where space and connector access is at a premium.

      USB is becoming dated technology. I'm sure it will survive as a legacy for many years with billions of devices out there, but for a major design change decision, I'm sure Apple is considering Lightning as this is already included in the current line-up of OSX products.

      The connector is smaller, it can daisy-chain serial devices from a single connector, the speed smokes USB and optical is  in the pipeline.  What's not to like?

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 09:47:54 PM PDT

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  •  Foxconn manufactures for everyone. (1+ / 0-)
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    Though Apple is the posterboy for Foxconn, it would be difficult to find an electronics manufacturer that doesn't subcontract with them - Sony, Panasonic, Samsung....

  •  No jacket? Feet up on the table?!?! (1+ / 0-)
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    tb mare

    Alert Daryl Issa to immediately launch investigations and articles of Impeachment!!!  Fetch Sarah Palin away from her annual Spring baby seal clubbing expedition, in Alaska, so she can assume her rightful place as President Girl Reagan-for Life!!!  Brew some tea!!!

    /running around in circles, clutching at pearls.
    //Also....I love my iPhone.

  •  I use an iPhone, and Macbook, I (1+ / 0-)
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    just switched to the 4s. NSw company I just hired on with gave me a Blackberry and a pc. seems like I've entered the 20th century. Hate both, especially the blackberry.

    I'd become a Lesbian for Rachel Maddow, I would.

    by ichibon on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 03:53:21 PM PDT

  •  It would be funny if (1+ / 0-)
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    the situation weren't so serious. It seems now that Republicans are complaining a massive gender gap exists because they're unfairly seen as anti-woman.

    "Unfairly" indeed ...

  •  I don't even have a cell phone, period (0+ / 0-)

    If I get one, which is a big if, it'll be a track phone.  I find cell phones generally annoying and useless.

  •  I have an android phone. (1+ / 0-)
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    does that mean it's a Google Android ??

    it's a motorola

  •  Multiple Phones (0+ / 0-)

    You should include in the poll an option for people who use multiple smart phones.  I have an iPhone for personal uses and a Blackberry provided by my employer.

    This is espescially important for people working in politics and government--there are certain things you cannot do on a government-issued phone.

    But particularly in an era where people's main point of contact may be their cell phone, they are likely to keep it, even if their employers, over time, also provide a smart phone of sorts/

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