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We hear the right wing fanatics talk about the importance of freedom, while at the same time they acquiesce to gross violations of privacy in the name of security, or misguided and fanatical views on morality.

What is freedom?  Freedom rests on the ability of the individual to do as he goddamn pleases as long as his or her actions do not violate the rights of others.  And the right to privacy is one of the main pillars of freedom.

There is an endemic level of corruption across the entire country, in the form of corporatist cartels having control over corrupt politicians.  As the corruption continues to spread and take hold, these corporate neo-fascist cartels (i.e., ALEC, U.S. Chamber of Commerce) collude with bought-off corrupt politicians in the imposition of increasingly blatant violations of our rights to privacy, and hence, freedom.

What we have now is an aberration; it's not normal.

What would a free man or woman be like?  Imagine this... We start with the individual.  As a free person, all your papers, your belongings, your actions, proclivities, entertainment activities, are all private.  In any given situation, you will disclose only what's absolutely necessary to conduct a "transaction," be it with another person, a business, a government agency, or an employer.

By and large, that information may include your name, possibly, an ID (if you are writing a check or using a credit card), possibly phone number, and in some occasions, your address.

No entity should have the right to compile information about you, and store it into a database, and then use that information to create a profile for the purpose of advertising, employment, government services, etc.

An employer should only have access to information that's absolutely necessary for employment.  For example, that information could include your name, ID, address, phone number, education, employment history, and criminal record (if you have been convicted of a crime).

The same goes for any other entity, including government agencies.

Regarding employment, as long as you are able to perform the duties you were hired to do competently, that's all an employer should be concerned with.  It's a business transaction; the employer gets the benefit of the labor you perform, and you get payment for that labor.  That's it; not more complicated than that.

What you choose to do in your free time, as long as it is not a clear violation of the law, is nobody's business.  The activities are endless... You may go to church, or a swingers sex club, or a nudist colony, or a picnic, or the beach, a concert, art classes, camping, travel, a seminar, a retreat, a writing class, a political protest, etc.

You can do whatever goddamn pleases you in the privacy of your home (as long as you are not breaking the law).

That is true freedom.  That's what a free man or woman would look like.  As the corporatist neo-fascist hegemony continues to exert its influence and control on society--mainly through the control it has over money-grabbing politicians--we are losing our freedoms at a faster and faster pace.

If you acquiesce to any entity being able to collect, save, analyse, and create a personal profile about you, you are agreeing to your own enslavement.

Again, the only time any entity, be it law enforcement, the government, employers, have any right to put restrictions on you is if you violate the law and become a criminal.  As long as you are a law-abiding citizen, you can do whatever pleases you and nobody has any right to put restrictions on you, or take actions against you based on a profile that has been collected.

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  •  A friend of mine went for a job interview (18+ / 0-)

    and on the application was the question: Mother's maiden name.

    She couldn't believe the other personal information being requested- number of bank accounts, she was requested to sign for a credit check.  For a job.

    She told the woman at the desk that the application was a violation of her privacy- there was no reason the company needed that information and she walked out.

    I am a preschool teacher, and I've been fingerprinted for a criminal background check.  I remember filling out many forms, providing information necessary for the check, and at no time did I feel the information was violating my privacy.

    Now companies are doing credit checks and requiring Facebook passwords.

    Sounds like society is being weeded.

    Growing old is inevitable...Growing up is purely optional

    by grannycarol on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 11:37:22 PM PDT

    •  There is a strong drive towards a two class (10+ / 0-)

      society that does not include a middle class.  Only the ownership and the peons.

      Part of that movement is to put ridiculous barriers in front of all the "wrong" people looking for jobs.  Drug tests, Facebook account examinations, credit checks, etc.

      Soon, only the "perfect" (i.e., harmless to the ownership) will be allowed to have good jobs.  The rest will be consigned to manual labor and menial tasks befitting their "imperfection" in the eyes of the extremely and increasingly cautious ownership.

      What a Police State Looks Like: "On one side: soft human flesh, unprotected human skulls, cardboard signs, slogans they chant, armed with belief in 1st Amendment rights. On the other: helmets, body armor, guns, batons, chemical weapons." -- JanetRhodes

      by YucatanMan on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:07:55 AM PDT

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  •  The census has always collected (3+ / 0-)
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    cotterperson, blueoregon, 3goldens

    personal information, house by house, so w whole neighborhood could be profiled and the information has always been made available to commercial and other interests.  What's new is the interest in privacy and the illusion that nobody knows your name.
    Also, for the first 150 years the distribution by Congress of free resources to the right people was Congress' major function.  The notion that the environment should be preserved from depredation is revolutionary.  Telling people to clean up after themselves is like a second eviction from the garden of Eden.  And women are largely to blame!

    Mom making apple pies is the ideal.  Woman is supposed to work in the home.  Just think of all the machinery and equipment men invented to make staying home easy!  And still women aren't satisfied to labor in the house made just precisely to contain them.  What is it that a house is supposed to hold?
    Husbands store up women and children in houses. Husbands see to it that things are house-bound, in his own house in an ownership society. That's the purpose of free things--to be owned:

    free land
    free water
    free grass
    free lumber
    free minerals
    free fuel
    free fish
    free pelts
    free labor

    Free things are to be acquired, accumulated and kept in a state of freedom, like a kingdom but owned by free men.
    Liberty is a woman thing.  That's why she's called Lady Liberty.

    People to Wall Street: "LET OUR MONEY GO"

    by hannah on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:54:12 AM PDT

    •  one caveat... (1+ / 0-)
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      the Census data is collected anonymously, and it is also compiled that way.

      So, yes sort of, they are logging a bunch of info about your residence (how many live there, what race/nationality are they, what sex are they, how old are they).

      Once this data is entered, it is compiled to show how many people leave in your legislative district. And yes, some of that data is available to entities other than the census bureau, like state and local governments, to assist them in planning...

      How many in that District are minorities (some federal Title X block grants are disbursed based on this data).

      How many in that District are public school age (to plan for future school expansions).

      No where on the Census forms is there a place to put your full name, although the last one, I believe, did ask for a first name of permanent residents (although that might have been a WA State survey and I'm mixing them up).

      I'm certainly not denying bobswern's pointed note that Big Brother is Watching You (and ME) more and more and more...

      Just that Michelle Bachmann was wrong about the Census totally (saying they were surveying us to be able to round us all up in Obama camps or some such nonsense) - and you are wrong about it a little, too.

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      by Angie in WA State on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 03:02:56 PM PDT

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      •  Names were collected this time (0+ / 0-)

        I was a census taker in this last round.

        We took full names of each person in the household, age, gender, race, relationship to the person providing the info, and so on.

        BUT, personally-identifiable information (PII) is kept under wraps for 72 years. You can't even share info between census operations groups, never mind from the census to the public (it's a felony, though luckily when it comes to names, I have a memory like a sieve, so I'll never have to worry about that). As an example of how strict they are about data: if there were 3 different census operations going on simultaneously, some poor schmoes would be interviewed 3 different times, by 3 different people - and BOY were they not amused by the time the 3rd one came around (which always seemed to be me).

  •  One of the many problems in the way of freedom, (2+ / 0-)
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    Are the many laws, past and present, that specifically take freedom away:
    No inter-racial marriage
    No LGBT marriages
    No single, same sex household adoption
    And the REALLY intrusive ones banning specific sex acts.

    So how does one be free and not break the law?

    Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

    by Smoh on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 07:15:51 AM PDT

  •  To me, "Freedom" means being able to travel (11+ / 0-)

    anywhere you like, speak to whomever you wish to speak with, have relationships from acquaintances to friendships to love affairs with whomever you chose ALL without government tracking, interference, record-keeping, data-building or prohibition.

    Gore Vidal wrote a piece back in the late 1990s saying the US was no longer a free nation.  That was around the time that names had to go onto plane tickets and some form of ID was required to fly.  He was right.

    We are now a security nation with militarized police forces who will think nothing of firing gas and projectiles at people exercising their Constitutional rights. They will break down your door with battering rams and invade your home in armored suits carrying automatic weapons and shoot you a few dozen times with total impunity from the "justice" system.  Every Email and phone call in the nation is being recorded by the NSA and many conversations in the world are being monitored in Utah.

    Free nation?  Long since gone. Welcome to the Security State where your neck is under the boot.

    What a Police State Looks Like: "On one side: soft human flesh, unprotected human skulls, cardboard signs, slogans they chant, armed with belief in 1st Amendment rights. On the other: helmets, body armor, guns, batons, chemical weapons." -- JanetRhodes

    by YucatanMan on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:13:44 AM PDT

    •  May I see your documents? (1+ / 0-)
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          I want to continue to be able to go for a hike or a bike ride or a picnic in public places without any requirement of being able to identify myself to some authority who asks for my documents.  

           We are moving toward requiring "documents" for all citizens.  The citizens should resist with all their power those unconstitutional requirements that will be offered to us for our increased safety and protection.  

          We don't need 'em, and they are not for our benefit.

         How about I get my drivers license number tattooed on my ass, you fookers?  

      Bush hijacked the US with lies about 9/11 and crashed it into Iraq, killing over 500,000 human beings. So far, he's avoided arrest and prosecution.

      by Zydekos on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 10:00:46 PM PDT

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    •  I'm pretty sure this one: (0+ / 0-)
      that was around the time that names had to go onto plane tickets and some form of ID was required to fly.
      Was because the airlines were tired of people using tickets others had bought, but couldn't use. With the new rule, the original purchaser forfeited their money AND the airline got the money from the new purchaser - essentially selling the same seat twice. Under the old rules, the airline only got paid once.

      My cousin was a travel agent - I got all sorts of good deals on plane tickets before they started requiring names, because customers would ask her to try to find a buyer so they could recoup part of their costs.

  •  What Abe Lincoln said (7+ / 0-)

    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.

    America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
    Abraham Lincoln

    The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew.

    Abraham Lincoln

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