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On march 27 Meteor Blades posted a diary
about the Initial partial police report, that was published on the City of Sanford

I printed the report and studied it closely, and I used this report everytime I needed a quote in my comments. In a reaction to one of my comments, the commenter referred to the police report with this link.  
I clicked on the link, and I immediately noticed that the visual of the report was different than the one I had been looking at.

So I printed the second report to try to find the differences.

This is what I found.

The CNN link contained two partial police reports, one printed on 2/28 and the second printed on 3/6. The report printed on 2/28 did not have the narrative that corroborated Zimmerman's statements.  

Update: Please read this diary, exposing gaps in the 911 reporting and zooming in on prior engagements between Zimmerman and Ofc. Smith.  

The official "intial" Sanford Police Report consists of 4 pages. At the bottom of the pages you can read that this report was printed on 3/6/2012 at 13:45(1:45 pm). The page counter on the bottom right corner shows that this was a 4 page document.

The report on the site of CNN in Session, consists of 8 pages.

Page 1 was printed on 2/28 at 11:38 and the page counter shows it to be page 1 of 5.
This report is identified as a Public Version.
In the first section of the report number of victims is 0.
In the person section of the report 3 persons are identified. Most of the information has been redacted, but the first person stil shows hgt(600), second person weight(150) and the third also weight(200). All 3 are identified as adult. The first two are shown as person type Witnes-adult. The third person has person type redacted.  

Page 2 was printed on 2/28 at 11:42 and the page counter shows it to be page 1 of 3.
This again seems to be the first page of the report. The report is identified as Partial Report Only and the lay-out of the report is slightly different.
In the Person Section 4 people are identified. All are identified as adult. The first 3 show person-type Witness adult. The fourth person has person-type redacted. All identifying information has been redacted on this page.

Page 3 was printed on 2/28 at 11:42 page counter 2 of 3.
Three persons in the person section. All three are identified as adults. First two with person type witness-adult. The third one as subject, presumably Zimmerman.

In the narrative section you find the first part of the narrative of Ofc. Ayala.

Page 4 was printed on 2/28 at 11:42 page counter 3 of 3.
On this part you find the rest of the narrative of ofc. Ayala.
And that is it for this report. Ofc. Smith's narrative is not on this report.

Page 2,3 and 4 from the cnn site, seems to be the real Initial "complete" partial report.
It identifies 5 persons as adult-witness, one adult person as subject, and one adult person who's person-type is redacted. Trayvon is either not on the report or he is the redacted person-type.  

These four pages appeared to have been faxed together on 3/6 at 9:28 to fax nr 4073236978 fedex office 1671 as shown at the top of these four pages as part of a 7 page fax.

The fax nr belongs to a fedex office located on 1637 Rinehart Rd
Sanford, FL 32771, about 4.5 miles from the police station and about 1.5 miles from the location where Trayvon was shot.

The last 4 pages appear to be the same 4 page report that was published on City of Sanford site. It was printed on 3/6 at 13:45.

Notice that the official "initial" report was printed about 4 hours after the other 4 pages were faxed.

I've been trying to find why all this activity concerning this report takes place on 3/6.
All I've been able to find so far is that the parents of Trayvon went public on 3/8.

I hope you are all still with me.

The most noticeable differences between the Partial Police Report printed on 2/28 and the Initial Partial Police Report published on the website of the City of Sanford and printed on 3/6 are:

the 2/28 report has 5 witnesses, one subject and one person whose person-type is redacted but identified as an adult
the 2/6 report has 6 witnesses, one victim and one subject.    

The 2/28 report does not include the narrative by ofc. Smith
The 3/6 report ofc Smith's narrative is included. The date and time for the narrative are
registered as 2/27 at 3:29 am. The narrative seems an almost perfect match with the unofficial statements given by Zimmerman.  

Originally posted to amsterdam on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:24 AM PDT.

Also republished by Police Accountability Group.

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  •  Trust me, (8+ / 0-)

    the DOJ and FBI are noticing these discrepancies. Zimmerman WILL be arrested, along with several corrupt individuals from the Sanford PD and State Attorney's office.

  •  Insightful diary (3+ / 0-)

    I agree with Hopefruit2, I think the delay may have to do with the corruption going on this case, especially the shutting down of this investigation. I believe it will all see the light of day eventually. The Sanford PD is in a position no PD wants to be in.

    •  I hope so (0+ / 0-)

      In this video a law enforcement analyst is explaining the report.

      In the beginning of the  video they show the first page of the 2/28 report. Next frame they show the first page of the second report. He gives a very detailed description of codes used and other information on how to interpret the report, but doesn't mention that there are two reports and not 1.

      Kind of depressing

  •  Sanford PD = BS (4+ / 0-)

    Sorry, but I think they DID alter their reports. I saw video of a clean Zimmerman made less than ONE HOUR after gunning down Trayvon Martin showing NO signs of having had his nose broken, as Zimmerman has claimed.
    I've had my nose broken. It bleeds like you've been shot. I saw not a speck of blood on Zimmerman's grey t-shirt.
    Zimmerman lied. The Police aided and abetted his lies. His family and fake friends have aided and abetted his lies.
    Zimmerman is not the only one who should be arrested.

    •  I think that is what (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm showing in this diary. Smith did not write his narrative backing up Zimmerman's until after 2/28 11:42, while the date and time stamp for his statement claims it was written on 2/27 3:29 am.

      •  Computerized System (0+ / 0-)

        Sanford PD has been computerized since 1985. Incident reports are entered on the computer, which assigns the date/time stamp. If it says 2/27 3:29 am, then either Smith or someone in his stead entered his report at that time.

        Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

        by edg on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:23:02 PM PDT

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        •  I guess the most obvious reason (0+ / 0-)

          why this is not on the 2/28 report is because Time Completed shows a date time stamp for 2/27 3:07 am.

           But that doesn't explain why the narrative + other changes that do show up on the 3/6 report still has a time completed as 2:27 3:07.

          •  The report types differ. (0+ / 0-)

            Ayala's report is type O, Smith's is type S. Incorrect application of a search filter would exclude Smith's report.

            Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

            by edg on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 12:44:27 PM PDT

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  •  please clarify - smith report seems to be in both? (0+ / 0-)

    On the link you have in your diary to the first report, I see officer smith's report on page three.  Yet you state that in the first report, the four page one, that his narrative isn't there.  

    I'm confused.  Either I don't follow what you are saying, or you missed something rather important.  

    I hope you archived what pdfs you saw when you wrote your diary - now I wonder if the record has been altered, or if you just made a mistake.  

    The link I have to the 4 page report is

    which i got by clicking on your hyperllink above.  

    •  nevermind, i get it now (4+ / 0-)

      The eight page version INCLUDES four pages dated earlier, and these four pages leave out Smith's report.  

      Nice catch...  VERY CURIOUS stuff.  

      Certainly one interpretation is that officer smiths report was NOT written when it is dated.  

      •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

        If you look at the top of the first four pages, you see a date
        3/6, a time 9:28, and a fax number 4073266978. Followed by Fedex office 1671 page 02/07.

        That shows that those 4 first pages were faxed to (I presume) a fedex office on 3/06 at 9:28.  I traced that fedex office to  1637 Rinehart Rd Sanford, FL 32771. That address is about 4.5 miles from the police station and 1.5 miles from the location Trayvon was shot and Zimmerman lives.

        The last four pages represent the report that was presented to us by the city of Sanford. These pages were printed on 3/6 at 13:45( 1:45 pm). Four hours and 15 minutes after the report without Smith's statement was faxed to the fedex office.  

    •  Check pages 2, 3 and 4 (0+ / 0-)

      on this link. If you look at the bottom of those pages you can see they were printed on 2/28. Ofc Smith's narrative is not on that report. Ofc. Ayala's account of the event begins on page 3 and ends on page 4. Then a lot of empty space

      Page 5 of this link is the first page of another version of the report printed on 3/6 (see bottom of page). Here you can see on page 3 that there are two narratives. Ofc. Ayala's followed by Ofc. Smith.

      This Link is not one report, but 2 full reports + 1 single page of another 5 page report.  

      •  Check report types (0+ / 0-)

        Ayala's report is Type O, Smith's is Type S. Perhaps whoever printed off the first version did not include both types in the search query.

        More importantly to me is how the case is entered in the system: Homicide-Negligent Manslaughter/Unnecessary Killing To Prevent Unlawful Act. Whoever started the reports about this incident (perhaps the lead officer) was treating it as more than self-defense right from the start.

        Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

        by edg on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:44:08 PM PDT

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        •  I noticed the report types (0+ / 0-)

          I guess o is for original, and s for suplemental.

           I still don't see how it would be possible to add something to a report after it has received a status completed. If the report is opened again it should have been reflected with another completion time and date stamp.  

  •  Whoever typed that second report (6+ / 0-)

    better have a lawyer on speed dial.  Obstruction of justice, perhaps?

  •  Can you send this diary or a letter stating the (2+ / 0-)
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    amsterdam, beforedawn

    same to the newly appointed lady prosecutor? This is exactly the kind of thing that people commonly miss. I think this might be very helpful to a factual investigation. Please do send it.  

    "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

    by rubyr on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 01:35:38 PM PDT

    •  The prosecutor should know by now (1+ / 0-)
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      There is no way you can hide these kind of changes in the PD's computersystem.

      My guess is that if she goes ahead and prosecute, it will really expose the police department.

      I'll try pushing it into the media again tomorrow.    

      •  Good on you. The key word in your (1+ / 0-)
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        comment is "should." I have found in life that people just do not know things that they should. The discrepancy that you noted is the exact kind of thing that people overlook. It takes a certain kind of thinker to spot that, IMHO. Best of luck with anything you try to do with it. I think it is very important and you were very smart to catch it. There are 300,000 people on this site and about 30,000 are here a day and no one caught this except you (that I know of). That's significant.

        "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

        by rubyr on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 12:48:25 PM PDT

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  •  Officer Timothy Smith (1+ / 0-)
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    responded to a call Zimmerman made in January and also one in February...This is at least the 3rd time they'd come in contact with each other...

  •  Aren't conspiracy theories against site rules? (0+ / 0-)

    Sanford PD has a computerized incident reporting system. The date/time stamp for Ofc Smith is 2/27 at 3:29 am. Unless a pretty serious hacker tampered with the database underlying the reporting system, I'd take it at face value as being the actual date and time when Ofc Smith entered the report into the computer.

    Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

    by edg on Sun Apr 01, 2012 at 08:14:53 PM PDT

    •  Anybody can look at it (0+ / 0-)

      I've just been reading what was on the documents. Fact is the 1st page is from a printed hardcopy produced on 2/28 at 11:38. Next 3 are from a printed hardcopy produced on 2/28 at 11:42. You can see at the top that those 4 were part of a fax that was 7 pages long. First page a cover page, no idea what was on the other 2.
      Smith's narrative is not on the 2/28 copy it is on the 3/6 copy.

      I have no idea what kind of system the Sanford PD uses and neither do you unless you work for the Sanford pd. I am a software designer and developer, so it seems really unlikely to me that at least in the db the actual entries are not flagged. So within the department itself it shouldn't be to difficult to find out when what was entered into the system.

      There are more persons identified on the 3/6 report then on the 2/28 report.
      Trayvon was either not on the report or the additional information such as City of Birth and State of Birth were not on the 2/28 report, because the only person where the person-type has been blacked out does not have entries for
      city and state.

      Report has been changed after 2/28 11:42. I can think of all kinds of ways how you can get a hardcopy presentation that looks like the one in the report and that does not reflect what is in the actual reporting system. But that includes the date time stamp.  

      •  I'll match you and raise. (0+ / 0-)

        I have nearly 40 years in the technology field, including software design, database design and administration, system and network engineering, product and project management. My last job was director of software development for a company that designed and built custom applications for government.

        Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

        by edg on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 12:42:37 PM PDT

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        •  Well I've been in It for only 25 years (0+ / 0-)

          So you got me there.  

          •  Also, I am referencing this article from 1985. (0+ / 0-)

            Sanford Police Installs Computer System

            October 24, 1985 By Sara Roen of The Sentinel Staff

            SANFORD — A new $25,000 computer system went on line Wednesday at the Sanford Police Department -- a program that has Chief Steve Harriett bragging as if he had just become a new father.


            After some quick shopping and research, Harriett discovered the NPC (Network Police Computer) system being offered by the University of North Florida. Sanford is the first department in the state to use the college's program, he said.

            The system will store information on incident files, arrests, suspect files, complaints, department and evidence inventory, and patrol car maintenance. It also will store research information on city problems related to law enforcement.

            Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

            by edg on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 07:15:29 PM PDT

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            •  I can see they are automated (0+ / 0-)

              and I sure hope they have upgraded their software and hardware so they don't have to cart the terminal around.

              I can make some observations on the reportwriter in the way it handles overflow and headers. If I would have designed this report writer, I would have skipped to the next page when a new narrative by another person would start and add headers with information about this person. But obviously that is a choice.

              However the report the Sanford Police has presented to the public, is just a printed copy with no signatures on it.
              There are so many ways to create a copy like that.

              On the platform I now best IBM midrange, with system administrator rights, I could make a copy of DB, manipulate the data and redirect the reportwriter to those files. Print the report and voila. That would take me a couple of hours at most.

              I'm not claiming that this what happened, and an audit of the system would expose this in no time.

              I'm confident now that the fed is investigating the investigation it self, that we will find out whether the PD handled this case properly, was being negligent or intentionally obstructed the case.


              •  From the look of the faxed document ... (0+ / 0-)

                particularly the dark line at the top of Smith's report, it looks like it was printed on a separate piece of paper and manually stacked with the other report.

                Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

                by edg on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 01:32:26 PM PDT

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            •  Who controls the database? (0+ / 0-)

              Manipulating DB timestamps is trivial for anyone with a whit of DB knowledge and appropriate access.

              I'm not trying to fan any flames here, just pointing out that "it's in a database!" is not an ironclad defense of its validity.

              Ron Paul 2012: Help Make the One Percent One Percentier!

              by Praxxus on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 08:01:53 AM PDT

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              •  Granted. (0+ / 0-)

                It would take me perhaps 1 to 3 seconds to alter a database record through a backdoor. But this gets back to my original point: Absent a proved conspiracy, theories are just theories. Reading a few online pages of a faxed document is far more likely to reach a faulty conclusion than to conclude that a DB technician and others joined into a conspiracy to alter official police records. Especially if much of the department considered it a justifiable shooting at the time.

                Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

                by edg on Tue Apr 03, 2012 at 01:37:46 PM PDT

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