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A sly Foxx, after all
In case you missed it Monday, a key member of what my colleague Hunter calls the congressional dimwit caucus, Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC), takes a jaded view of Americans who take out student loans. Uh ... make that a jaundiced view. Er ... make that a jackass view. You see, she and her husband worked their way through school all on their own in the early '60s, and they borrowed very little. She says she has "very little tolerance" for those who graduate with a lot of debt. The younger generation, she insinuates, is a bunch of slackers. Be summer janitors. A burger flippers. That should cover tuition, books and living expenses with no problem, just as it did in the years when Jack Kennedy was president and the Foxxes were getting their degrees.

Without that student-loan debt, however, as Andrew Leonard shows in a fine little smackdown of the congresswoman, Foxx would be short many thousands of bucks in her campaign coffers. Among her top contributors are the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities and Corinthian Colleges. Fly-by-night for-profit education operations are something Foxx has eagerly gone to bat for despite continuing reports from the Government Accountability Office showing these operations, especially the online-only versions, to be massive rip-offs, offering inferior education and exceedingly low graduation rates. One of the biggest rip-offs is the fact that they thrive on student grant and loan money.

To help them out, Foxx introduced HR2117, the Orwellianly named Protecting Academic Freedom in Higher Education Act to "prohibit the Department of Education from overreaching into academic affairs and program eligibility under title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965." In other words, as Danny Weil says, Foxx's act amounts to "no regulations allowed." Or, as Leonard suggests for a retitling: “The Protecting the Freedom of For-Profit Schools to Suck off the Government Teat Without Any Accountability Whatsoever Act.”

Her bill is (which passed the House by a wide margin, including many Democratic votes) is designed to repeal two new requirements established by the Obama administration:

Specifically, a new federal definition of what constitutes a legitimate academic “credit hour” and a new requirement that all online providers of post-secondary education be accredited in each and every state in which they do business.
Nothing extreme. Tweaks. But tweaks that the for-profit colleges industry couldn't abide. So Foxx argued that these interfere with the schools' innovation, effectiveness and efficiency, something they supposedly excel at while traditional institutions plod.

What Foxx's bill was really about was guaranteeing that the schools would be able to continue to qualify as student loan-approved operations. As a 2010 study released by Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) showed, the five largest for-profit schools reported in 2009 that federal grants and loans made up 77.4 percent of their revenue. Leonard quotes Harkin's conclusion:

The Federal government and taxpayers are making a large and rapidly growing investment in financial aid to for-profit schools, with few tools in place to gauge how well that money is being spent. Available data show that very few students enroll in for-profit schools without taking on debt, while a staggering number of students are leaving the schools, presumably many without completing a degree or certificate.
That was exactly what the Obama administration's changes were designed to address and exactly what Foxx's repeal bill was designed to maintain. Thus, while ranting about her intolerance for individuals who take out student loans, and making herself once again to look like an out-of-touch doofus, she vacuums up campaign money from institutions she then shills for those who could not survive without those loans.

Quite the gig. Perhaps she's not such a dim wit, after all.

Originally posted to Meteor Blades on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:45 PM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Virginia Foxx doesn't despise student loans (24+ / 0-)

    She despises students. As with all Republicans, she's the type of person who steals your money and then mocks you for being poor.

    •  It's one of the flavors of human (4+ / 0-)
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      husbandry -- the exploitation by humans of their own kind to their detriment.

      People to Wall Street: "LET OUR MONEY GO"

      by hannah on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 04:24:51 PM PDT

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    •  To be precise (0+ / 0-)

      She said she had "little tolerance" for students who borrow amounts---"$200,000 of debt or even $80,000 of debt"---that are far larger than one needs for a college degree.

      Now, that second number is a point of contention:  in much of the US even in-state tuition is like $30,000, and in California it's more like $60,000.  Factor in room and board for four years, and you can easily hit a price tag of 80-90K even for a "cheap" school.

      That being said, you're not supposed to put the entire thing on loan, and should not have a debt of 80K even if your college's total cost amounts to that much.

      However, the first bit, 200,000, is absolutely right:  there's only about 120 schools that cost that much money, and if you are so broke that you must put your entire education on credit, you don't buy a Bentley or a mansion or go to Vanderbilt to rub elbows with 1%ers.

      Linking to a news article is journalism in the same sense that putting a Big Mac on a paper plate is cooking.

      by Caj on Wed Apr 18, 2012 at 08:39:35 AM PDT

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      •  Professional school? (1+ / 0-)
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        Other advanced degrees, on top of college?  Two-student families?

        •  Sure, those things cost more money (0+ / 0-)

          Medical school, law school, professional schools are expensive.  But that doesn't change the fact that one needn't, and shouldn't, spend 200,000 on a college degree.  

          It's only possible to spend that kind of money on college if you deliberately go to one of the hundred or so most expensive colleges in the USA.

          I believe that we now have an education racket that tries to fool you into overspending, and overborrowing, for college.  People try to convince you that expensive is better (it isn't,) that private is superior to public (it isn't,) that you need a degree from a snooty school to compete for the real jobs (you don't,) that the kids who had to go to Northern Illinois University are stuck working a dead-end job in DeKalb  (they're not.)  We hear these sentiments not only from marketing bullshit, but from students, teachers, parents and graduates who uncritically swallowed the marketing bullshit.

          You are now encouraged to choose a school that "feels right," has the right vibe or is the perfect fit for your interests, emphasizing the choice of college as a deeply personal decision---which just happens to discourage you from choosing the affordable one with state-subsidized tuition and a perfectly good nursing or architecture program.  When you leave college, you will find that it wasn't actually critical to pick the college with the right vibe, and certainly not in exchange for an extra $40,000 in cost.

          I believe this is part of a general trend, reversing the gains of the GI bill and civil rights movement---which made college accessible and egalitarian and less like a playground for the rich.  College is once again becoming a luxury good:  not just priced at 1%er levels, but sold as a 1%er experience for people who can afford a 1%er lifestyle.

          Linking to a news article is journalism in the same sense that putting a Big Mac on a paper plate is cooking.

          by Caj on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 08:30:50 PM PDT

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          •  Ah ha (1+ / 0-)
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            Yeah, that is hefty for a BA or BS degree.

            I won't comment on whether the fancy degree is a valuable commodity or not.  My guess is, this world is incalculably more competitive than the one I grew up in.  Probably the competition from the global economy is a big piece of it, perhaps more women in the job market.

            Back in my day, you had a decent expectation of getting a job, with a post-graduate degree.  I doubt that's the case any more.  I don't doubt many feel they need every possible advantage on the resume.

            Also in my day, you could get a world class education at a state school, for dirt cheap.

            I swore back then, and kept the promise, that I would never begrudge paying taxes to the State of California.  Great university system, no sweat to pay for my law degree.

            •  How about more people generally? (1+ / 0-)
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              The population of this country has exploded since you and I went to college, so of course everything is far more competitive.  Plus we are now competing with a tidal wave of well-educated immigrants for our jobs.   Many of those immigrants were educated in their home countries for small fractions of what we pay for our educations.  The world wasn't like that when we were young.  

              •  You're ignoring the right half of the equation (0+ / 0-)

                The number of jobs doesn't stay fixed as the population increases.  If the population doubles, so does the number of teachers and waiters and doctors, and so we see a corresponding increase in jobs.  

                This is why it's a logical fallacy to oppose immigration because immigrants "take our jobs."  Immigration increases the population, and immigrants take jobs from a growing number of jobs.  When the US population swelled from 200 million to 300 million in the last 40 years, the extra 100 million people didn't "take our jobs."

                There is greater competition for college admission today, but that's not because of population increase:  it's because of a societal trend of sending everyone to college, under the belief that it is the one true way to make it in the world today.

                Linking to a news article is journalism in the same sense that putting a Big Mac on a paper plate is cooking.

                by Caj on Fri Apr 20, 2012 at 08:24:41 AM PDT

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                •  Wait a minute, (0+ / 0-)

                  "if the population doubles, so does the number of teachers and waiters and doctors, and so we see a coresponding increase in jobs."  Oh really?  What magic makes that happen?  

                  Yes, immigration is productive of economic growth to some extent, but not on a magical scale of one to one in jobs per person.  If that worked, then there would never be unemployment.

                  If a selective college admitted about 800 undergrads from nation with a population of about 200 million (the case of my college when I was an undergrad) and it still accepts about 800 undergrads now, but the population is 350 million, admissions are likely to be more competitive.

                  •  asdf (0+ / 0-)
                    "if the population doubles, so does the number of teachers and waiters and doctors, and so we see a coresponding increase in jobs."  Oh really?  What magic makes that happen?  
                    Plain old demand.  You double the population, and you need public schools to double in capacity.  There's nothing particularly magical about it.
                    Yes, immigration is productive of economic growth to some extent, but not on a magical scale of one to one in jobs per person.  If that worked, then there would never be unemployment.
                    How do you figure?  Even if the number of jobs in every sector exactly tracked the population, you'd still have unemployment.
                    If a selective college admitted about 800 undergrads from nation with a population of about 200 million (the case of my college when I was an undergrad) and it still accepts about 800 undergrads now, but the population is 350 million, admissions are likely to be more competitive.
                    What college are you talking about?  Every college I can think of has increase enrollment since 1970.

                    Linking to a news article is journalism in the same sense that putting a Big Mac on a paper plate is cooking.

                    by Caj on Fri Apr 20, 2012 at 12:11:01 PM PDT

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  •  Perhaps not the dimwit she appears to be (15+ / 0-)

    but a shill for private education entities who are nothing more than Corporate Welfare Queens?

    Hell yes, she is that.

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    by Angie in WA State on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:50:53 PM PDT

  •  There's a perfect (8+ / 0-)

    David Mamet Glengarry Glen Ross line which describes Foxx -- I won't use it because I don't want to be HR'd into oblivion -- but trust me, as a literary genius, it is exquisitely on point.

    Other than that, I can say she is an asshat.

    Vi er alle norske " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 02:54:12 PM PDT

  •  she is dishonest since the time she brags about (4+ / 0-)

    when she worked while going to school was for grad school while the people she criticized for borrowing money are borrowing for undergrad.  Question for her is how did she finance the undergrad years?

    •  I am sure she COULD have financed... (11+ / 0-)

      ...here undergrad years without a loan. I went to university just a few years after her. Worked my way through (1964-1968) with summer jobs, which, while exhausting, paid the freight for the other nine months of the year: tuition, books, rent and food. You simply cannot to that now.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 03:30:47 PM PDT

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      •  True. It's a brave new world we live in with (6+ / 0-)

        the prime rate in the basement, but college costs (among other things) soaring, and Wall Street raking in the dough.

        "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

        by Lily O Lady on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 03:44:13 PM PDT

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      •  I did pretty much the same for grad school (0+ / 0-)

        but even working and with federal assistance, I still had to borrow; there was no way to take a load of 22 credit hours and work more than 15 hours a week.
        Summers I worked with the DOT patching potholes walking behind a "hot mix" truck all day

      •  I have a UNC memorandum pdf from 1970 (1+ / 0-)
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        and I generously estimate her annual costs at $500.

        Those who forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.

        by CarolinNJ on Wed Apr 18, 2012 at 02:43:37 AM PDT

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      •  Maybe if your summer job is drug dealing ? (1+ / 0-)
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        Or maybe prostitution ?
        Hey how about Wall Street , I hear they pay well ?
        I bet you could rob banks for the summer , you know , a road trip with some stops along the way to "fill the tank" .

        "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

        by indycam on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 07:43:52 PM PDT

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      •  I really loved it when John Edwards weighed in (1+ / 0-)
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        on this with his "I worked my way through school and it didn't hurt me a lick" remark. First, WTF is "hurt me a lick" supposed to mean? Can he define what a lick of hurt is? Second, those burger-flipping, grocery-bagging summer jobs are all being held by people who are doing them in concert with two other parttime no-benefit jobs while desperately trying not to lose their underwater-mortgaged house and hoping like hell they stay well enough not to need the medical insurance they can't afford. Third, when I was in medical school, my contact load was 100-110 hours per week as a normal condition, so this left me 9-10 hours per day for all other activities of life including sleeping, eating, studying, doing laundry - ALL of it. What kind of work schedule is going to fit into that? Anyone who says anyone can "work their way through it" is as stupid as a box of hammers. Congratulations to Ms. Foxx if - if - she really accomplished what she asserts; some do manage it, but to say "if I did it, anyone can" is the rankest form of self-congratulatory bullshit.

        Your black cards can make you money, so you hide them when you're able; in the land of milk and honey, you must put them on the table - Steely Dan

        by OrdinaryIowan on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 08:04:13 PM PDT

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        •  asdf (1+ / 0-)
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          Second, those burger-flipping, grocery-bagging summer jobs are all being held by people who are doing them in concert with two other parttime no-benefit jobs...
          Not really.  I routinely encounter my students working those jobs at our local grocery store, or working similar jobs on campus.

          That's not to say that you can magically pay for college with a part-time crap job, but it's not hard to get a part-time crap job if you are a student.

          Linking to a news article is journalism in the same sense that putting a Big Mac on a paper plate is cooking.

          by Caj on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 08:38:12 PM PDT

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        •  A few years back.... (3+ / 0-)
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          ....the chancellor of one of the universities up here.... Simon Fraser University IIRC.... who worked his way through undergrad and grad school in economics with a job in a gas station decided to calculate how possible this was for a student today. When he took all the factors into account, he discovered rather to his shock that the gas station would have to be paying on the order of 22 dollars an hour for anyone to duplicate his feat. Needless to say, they don't, not here, not anywhere.

          "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

          by sagesource on Fri Apr 20, 2012 at 02:55:09 AM PDT

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      •  when i started colleget in 1977 (1+ / 0-)
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        the fees (at state universty, "tuition" was considered a dirty word, back then) were but $91 for public education in california.

        i'm pretty sure that in NC in 1968, when she attended, state college fees were probably within reach for most undergrads-seeing as that was the mission of state university systems.  her personal life model wouldn't work out so well in 2012, i think.

        also, it's a total affront to everyone's eyes to have that smirking visage greeting us when we log into daily kos.

        hope springs eternal and DAMN is she getting tired!

        by alguien on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 08:33:46 PM PDT

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  •  How can republicans... (3+ / 0-)
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    cobble together governing majorities in the House, Senate or win the WH?
    They don't even pretend to represent average folks.

    And what these for-profit schools are doing, with an assist from Fox and other "hired hands" is unconscionable. They are loading up students with massive loads of debt that can never be discharged in bankruptcy.

    Even worse, these schools offer degrees for jobs that don't exist or in careers that don't pay enough to make the debt worthwhile.
    What a shame.

    Let The Wild Rumpus Begin!

    by dclawyer06 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 at 04:57:48 PM PDT

  •  32 billion.. (3+ / 0-)
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    GAO reports:
    Moreover, during the 2009-2010 school year, for-profit colleges received almost $32 billion in grants and loans provided to students under federal student aid programs, as authorized under Title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965, as amended.
    ...For this:
    •In 2008, for-profit schools registered a a graduation rate of 22 percent. (Public and private non-profits registered 55 percent and 65 percent respectively.)
     •54 percent of the students who enrolled in 2008-2009 in 14 publicly traded for-profit schools had withdrawn without a degree by 2010.
     •The biggest player in the for-profit sector, the University of Phoenix, graduated only 9 percent of its B.A. candidates within six years. - emphasis added
    That's what this greedy crone is  republicans are after - This is not mere privatization -  it's piratization of the public space.
    And she is a despicable liar (OT):

     - This sounds terrible yet I'm now convinced that poverty for the majority of people is a sought after part of the republican platform in many of them like Virginia Foxx.  
    Money, power, and complete dominance will never be enough for these kinds of people. The wealth they crave includes the suffering of "the others" to really complete their world. - It's the only explanation that I can come up with.

    •  I'm less worried about the graduation rate... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...and more worried about the economic prospects of graduates of these schools (which I strongly suspect is not great either).

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 08:05:20 PM PDT

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      •  The graduation rate is part of the scam. (2+ / 0-)
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        For-profit schools take advantage of kids who want to go to college but who don't have high enough grades or scores to get into a conventional university.  The University of Arizona, for example, doesn't require any SAT scores on their application.

        This naturally results in a low graduation rate, especially when coupled with the high cost of for-profit schools.  In fact, a low graduation rate allows a for-profit school to preserve whatever accreditation it has:  you can lose departmental accreditation if kids aren't learning a specified slate of advanced topics, but that's only if they graduate.  It's not an issue to accreditation if you just flunk all the kids who don't meet the program outcomes.

        Linking to a news article is journalism in the same sense that putting a Big Mac on a paper plate is cooking.

        by Caj on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 08:46:26 PM PDT

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      •  Didn't you hear? if you get a college degree (1+ / 0-)
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        a job magically appears for you that requires just the skills you possess.  That's how the economy works, stupid!

  •  Sorry, shes still a dimwit wearing (0+ / 0-)

    an asshat. Thats her in the horse stall right now trying to shove the shit back into the horse. From the sound of it the horse is not cooperating and winning the arguement about it too.

  •  Foxx as Mitt's Veep? (1+ / 0-)
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    It would be perfect - the Phony ticket.

  •  Foxx' tuition in the early 60s: $87.50 a term (2+ / 0-)
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    Not kidding....even inflation adjusted it was a pittance. Because, well, the taxpayers valued the public benefit of subsidizing an education back then.

    What a hypocrite.

    Some people are intolerant, and I CAN'T STAND people like that. -- Tom Lehrer

    by TheCrank on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 07:43:11 PM PDT

  •  The award for Excellence in Online Education. (1+ / 0-)
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    Goes to Orly Taitz and the Taft Law School.

  •  My 60's/70's State U Degree Cost 1/3 of One (4+ / 0-)

    year's median income. Today it costs about 10 times more, 3-4 years' median income at my school. I paid for my education loan free working fast food and unskilled nonunion labor.

    I invite her grandchildren to see if they can do better doing it my way.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 07:50:49 PM PDT

    •  Brilliant point. (3+ / 0-)
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      But I doubt that Ms. Foxx would be able to grasp the concept that the massive subsidy of taxpayer dollars given to her and other students of her era is now money that has to be borrowed at commercial rates because she and her regressive Republican gangster colleagues have decided that extortion is a better deal than public investment in human resources for the future of America.

      Your black cards can make you money, so you hide them when you're able; in the land of milk and honey, you must put them on the table - Steely Dan

      by OrdinaryIowan on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 08:13:17 PM PDT

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  •  At least these idiots are consistent (4+ / 0-)

    Facts be damned, so long as it's private enterprise, it's next to godliness.

    In fact, how dare the govt investigate whether a private enterprise, taking taxpayer dollars, is wasting those dollars or providing anything of value.

    Consistent principles be damned, as long as it's a campaign contributor, they are willing and eager to sell access to the public teat.

    •  So the University of Phoenix has a 9% graduation (2+ / 0-)
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      rate? So, in round numbers, 10 out of 11 dollars spent on this institution's tuition is wasted? Perhaps not, if any of those credits earned will transfer to a legitimate school, but I would hardly bet my last dollar on that..

      Your black cards can make you money, so you hide them when you're able; in the land of milk and honey, you must put them on the table - Steely Dan

      by OrdinaryIowan on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 08:18:52 PM PDT

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  •  She Has Always Looked Like A Fat Cat RAT To Me (0+ / 0-)
  •  [Insert contrary comment here] (2+ / 0-)
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    Just kidding. Most 'for profit" institutions are a huge scam.

    There should be strict metrics for employability of graduates in order for an institution to be eligible for federal student loans.

    Not that I don't have issues with many 'not for profit' institutions as well, but for profit are their own brand of scam.

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 07:56:43 PM PDT

  •  But but but but but (0+ / 0-)

    Corinthian Colleges and their like are private and for-profit.  So they must be good, right?

  •  I Have A Theory (1+ / 0-)
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    The right wing is pretty close to done politically. I say this because of all the scandal, and all the extremism.

    You only say such stupid things to your electorate when things are desperate.

    Next thing you know, they'll be running skinheads for Congress. They're not fooling anyone anymore, they might as well appeal to their base.

  •  I am sorry but that picture (0+ / 0-)

    is Virginia Foxx's husband just having a bit of fun. Last Halloween he went as LBJ in drag. Won a prize. Uncanny likeness.

    Fructose is a liver poison. Stop eating it today.

    by Anne Elk on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 08:44:19 PM PDT

  •  Totally repugnant /nt (0+ / 0-)

    "He not busy being born is busy dying." R. Zimmerman

    by RUKind on Thu Apr 19, 2012 at 09:54:59 PM PDT

  •  Virginia Foxx is as bright as she is beautiful. (0+ / 0-)
  •  She looks like (1+ / 0-)
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    every evil teacher I ever had.

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    by raboof on Fri Apr 20, 2012 at 03:51:01 AM PDT

  •  FOXX is a thugette (1+ / 0-)
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    For profit education institutions are a real scourge and getting worse all the time. They should be denied any Federal aid until they can demonstrate graduation rates comparable to public institutions. if private industry cannot outperform a public institution in the provision of a service to the citizenry, then the people's money should go elsewhere.

  •  Could someone put together the budget (2+ / 0-)
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    that would show that you'd have to have two jobs of the kind that already require advanced college degrees to make enough today to pay for college?  That's why so many women work outside the home - because college for the kids isn't going to happen on dad's income alone.  And we're talking about middle-aged adults advanced in their careers.

  •  Can someone make a campaign ad of her (1+ / 0-)
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    saying this and run it repeatedly in her district when she runs for re-election?  Maybe, just maybe, the dimwits in her district won't re-elect her!

  •  That hypocritical old gasbag! Can't--stand--her. (0+ / 0-)

    "Power is a fleeting thing. One day your souls will be required of you." Bishop Peter Storey---Central Methodist Mission, Johannesburg, June 1981

    by lyvwyr101 on Fri Apr 20, 2012 at 10:45:47 AM PDT

  •  I left a rousing PO'ed remark on her page... (0+ / 0-)

    ...on her page a few days ago as someone who has already paid off $10,000 in student loan debt. Seems like her or her staff is now preventing ANYONE from commenting on her page, and everything's censored off.

    Figures.

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