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Clearly his statement supporting the rights of anyone to enter into a marriage with anyone else regardless of gender has no immediate impact on the law regarding marriage or civil unions.

So what is the real impact this has?

IMO, the biggest impact is that friends and families around the globe (not just in America) will be discussing this over the next few days and weeks openly. In many families and between many friends, this will be a topic that has never been discussed. Or if previously discussed, this will either challenge the issue for reconsideration or affirm your previous beliefs.

Families are now allowed to discuss this at the dinner table. This will probably result in a lot of hurt feelings and examination of the fundamental issues at stake.

This global discussion will occur in the US, in Europe, in China, in Russia, heck, probably in Afghanistan too. This is going to be a global topic.

So regardless of whether you think this is going to help or hurt Obama politically in his re-election bid (I personally think it will help him), the bigger effect will be a global re-examination of peoples viewpoints on the topic around the dinner tables of the world.

This can only be a good thing for equality.

edited the title to reflect the content after reading marykk's diary about the dinner table conversation.

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  •  Tip Jar (16+ / 0-)

    You could be listening to Netroots Radio. "We are but temporary visitors on this planet. The microbes own this place" <- Me

    by yuriwho on Wed May 09, 2012 at 06:51:16 PM PDT

  •  I think this may actually hurt him (4+ / 0-)
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    in certain demographics. Obama has a really long view. I think he factors in how history will view him and he wanted to come down firmly on the just side. Good for Obama.

    You're spot on. This could be the lancing of that god awfully embarrassing boil on the ass of America. Or the teabaggers are going to grab their pitchforks. I really hope mittens runs against gay marriage. I hope the rightiest of the right wing go absolutely apeshit so that he has to coddle their homoerotic, I mean, homophobic, feelings. Maybe this will end up being a catch-22 for Romney.

    Lo que separa la civilizacion de la anarquia son solo siete comidas.

    by psilocynic on Wed May 09, 2012 at 07:01:32 PM PDT

    •  I think there will be a lot of discussions (2+ / 0-)
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      between teens/youth and their parents on this topic. I think it will help bring out the youth vote. It clearly will be a rallying point for the fundamentalists and far right to attack Obama as un-american. It will affect fundraising and activism on both sides. One side based on negative emotions and the other side based on positive emotions.

      I guess I see it as good side of the force vs. the dark side. I think positive motivation is more powerful than negative.

      You could be listening to Netroots Radio. "We are but temporary visitors on this planet. The microbes own this place" <- Me

      by yuriwho on Wed May 09, 2012 at 07:21:34 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Those demographics weren't for Obama (0+ / 0-)
      I think this may actually hurt him in certain demographics.
      President Obama is the president for ALL Americans!
  •  It will have impact if it helps some people... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...get married.

  •  It's a bit like (4+ / 0-)
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    the speech in Cairo about Islam, imho.

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Wed May 09, 2012 at 07:12:19 PM PDT

  •  I didn't see this earlier-- (1+ / 0-)
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    [saw your comment in marykk's diary and followed
    you over here :) ]

    We had a bit of that here tonight, the dinner table
    conversation.   Two of my daughters were here for dinner,
    and it was refreshing to me to hear their interest in this
    political topic, and their disbelief that marriage equality
    issues were such a B.F.D.  They can't believe that anyone
    would object to committed couples Not being able to marry!

    Obama's statement today--I wish it could be implemented
    immediately, but realistically, there is still a ways to go
    to seeing that happen.

    But talking to my daughters tonight confirmed what I've
    thought:   It's only a matter of time before we as a nation
    do The Right Thing.

    None of us can have Equal Rights
    until All of us have Equal Rights.

  •  Funny, that's the (1+ / 0-)
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    part of his discussion that got me...the dinner table.

    "You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples, " he said. "There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently."
    Because that is where my family is - our child talks about her friends with same sex parents as a matter of fact, not an oddity. Her generation is not fazed.
  •  Additional talking points (0+ / 0-)

    I think that to defuse the "same sex marriage" issue it should be reframed as a discrimination issue.

    Throughout the history of the US, one group or another has been discriminated against if they weren't WASP (white anglo-saxon protestants if you aren't of the generation for whom that was most important): Irish (well, they weren't really anglo-saxon, they were celtic); Catholics (they aren't protestant); blacks (they certainly aren't white); Asians (in CA they were brought in as indentured servants and are certainly not white, and we all remember hearing about the camps that Japanese were forced into during WWII), etc.

    Since most of the groups subject to discrimination have gotten some legal protection, the remaining group to discriminate against is LGBT (unless the obese become the next whipping group).

    Obama could gain a whole bunch of points by stating the oh, so obvious:

    1. Just about every group in the country has been the subject of discrimination.
    2. In some of the discrimination fights, religion has led the way to end discrimination.
    3. Now, religions are leading the way in discrimination against one group of citizens by denying them the protection of the (secular) law.
    4. We cannot allow discrimination in any form towards any group to exist in the U.S., and certainly not discrimination based solely on religion (against Constitution).

    I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

    by woolibaar on Wed May 09, 2012 at 09:11:13 PM PDT

  •  The gay gene runs strong in our (1+ / 0-)
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    family. We haven't given a damn for as long as I can remember. Was/ is never an issue.

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