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With Wisconsin Democrats putting pressure on the national Democratic party to step up in the effort to recall Scott Walker, the Democratic National Committee is reaffirming its support, but it's still not committing actual money.

The Democratic Governors Association has already spent $2 million on the recall, but there's still no definite answer on the $500,000 the Democratic Party of Wisconsin has requested from the DNC:

"The DNC will use both its substantial network of activists and supporters as well as extensive online resources to develop the ground game" in Wisconsin, Roussell said. She declined to comment on whether or not the committee would make any financial investments in the race, but said "the DNC is fully committed to helping Mayor Barrett win the election."
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As part of that, DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz is holding a fundraiser for Democratic nominee Tom Barrett. Like the DNC, President Obama's reelection campaign is helping out in ways that don't involve direct infusions of cash, focusing on voter registration and education.

Both the DNC and the Democratic Party of Wisconsin emphasize that the DNC hasn't yet said it would not contribute to the recall effort financially. But in a close election that will be determined by turnout, time is running short for Wisconsin Democrats and the Barrett campaign to have their GOTV plans in place—and that requires knowing how much money they'll have.

Please give $3 to Tom Barrett to help kick Scott Walker out of office.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Wed May 16, 2012 at 09:00 AM PDT.

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  •  This continues to be another disgusting (27+ / 0-)

    display of the poor leadership of the DNC.  Selecting NC for the convention is another bad move (WTF were they thinking?).

    If DWS thinks she can squeeze out one more volunteer or scrape up another nickel for the recall effort, she's badly mistaken.  We've got boots on the ground - tens of thousands of pairs of boots.  What we need are resources for ads and GOTV (phones don't pay for themselves).  

    We've done this with almost nothing (bringing toilet paper to the recall offices), but this is the time we need funds and the only time we're asking.

    The DNC doesn't have a problem with asking for our time, money, and support - they just don't want to do anything other than that.  The road's got 2 lanes that travel in opposite directions and they've forgotten that.

    Our memories are long.  And help may not come when asked in the future by people who get refused now.

    There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

    by Puddytat on Wed May 16, 2012 at 09:15:54 AM PDT

    •  Help us or else? (3+ / 0-)
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      shoeless, v2aggie2, Larsstephens

      I understand the frustration but being vindictive isn't a good look, definitely when it will hurt you in the long run.

      The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing online commenters that they have anything to say.-- B.F.

      by lcj98 on Wed May 16, 2012 at 09:31:25 AM PDT

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    •  I'm not totally with you on this (a very rare (3+ / 0-)
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      Puddytat, Larsstephens, rosarugosa

      exception since I usually think you're exactly on target), but I understand the anger. However, if you read some of the comments on this diary, particularly these from cowchief:
      http://www.dailykos.com/...
      it seems like some money has been going to WI from the DNC. Maybe it hasn't gotten publicized well?
      But you guys can & should expect Kossacks like me (I consider myself a Wisconsinite in spirit) to contribute and we will!
      Just sent another $20 to Barrett and sent the same a week ago. And my husband sent some (I think he was more generous) a couple of weeks ago.
      And I sent $25 to Mahlon Mitchell yesterday. I'm going to think about whether we can give more in the next few days because this recall is coming up so soon.
      (I've also given to Lori Compas, one of my favorites anywhere).
      The truth is that we're never going to be able to match the money coming in from people (a euphemism) like the Koch Bros. What you guys have is superior grass roots organization -- truly superior to anything I've seen anywhere. What the opposition has is loads and loads of money to spend on TV, etc. I'm wondering how the wonderful ruling about disclosure of donors might be helpful to WI:
      http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/...
      It would be great to publicize exactly who's funding Walker's ads. Of course you need money for those ads -- so -- is there someplace I should send $ besides Barrett, Mitchell et al.?

      We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

      by Tamar on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:27:17 AM PDT

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      •  LOL I never expect people to agree with me (4+ / 0-)

        But on this one I'm right.

        We will remember who helped and who were asked but didn't.  When the DNC comes a'knockin on my door looking for funds, I'll slam it shut in their faces.  Ditto OFA which claims it's "helping" by doing the same voter registration they're doing anyway for Obama.

        This isn't help.  Not what we need.

        And do you think that the national Dems and Obama are going to get tens of thousands of boots on the ground when they need them?  Really?  I'm going to be really, really tired.  Sick and tired, in fact.  Sick and tired of Dems that expect ME to be there at their beck and call, but can't be there with some help when we're the ones who need it.  With "friends" like that .....

        We haven't asked before, but we're asking now and we get lame DWS coming to Wisconsin to fundraise.  I might just go protest her visit on the grounds that we've squeezed as many pennies and volunteers that can be had.

        It's time to pony up resources.  We've been fighting on the ground 16 months until our eyes are bleeding.  Now is the time when we see who has our backs.

        And, screw Obama and his comfortable shoes that should have been here a year ago.  Another guy with big promises and tiny delivery.

        I'm angry and entitled to be angry.  This is huge.

        There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

        by Puddytat on Wed May 16, 2012 at 02:40:50 PM PDT

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        •  Well, I'm with 90%. I think the DNC should (4+ / 0-)

          come through and I definitely wish Obama had shown some real support. OTOH, I will do everything I can to re-elect Obama because flawed as he and the Democrats are, they are 1000 times better than the Republicans.
          But for now, I'll keep sending money your way (Wisconsin's way) rather than to the national organization.
          Is there a Wisconsin group, other than the Barrett & Mitchell campaigns, that we should send money to?

          We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

          by Tamar on Wed May 16, 2012 at 02:51:00 PM PDT

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          •  You're both right... (2+ / 0-)
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            Tamar, Puddytat

            The democrats are all we have and we've gotta help them in November, but anyone who thinks they are doing a "great job" ought to have his head examined.

            These guys couldn't lead their way out of a wet paper bag.
            After we win in November, and I hope we do, we've gotta do the hard work of reforming this broken party.

            Let The Wild Rumpus Begin!

            by dclawyer06 on Wed May 16, 2012 at 05:15:13 PM PDT

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    •  p.s., During this time I have NOT been sending (3+ / 0-)

      money to the Obama campaign. Virtually all my money has gone to either Wisconsin or to help out in places like NC (that was a painful loss).

      We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

      by Tamar on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:28:43 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Thank You Laura (7+ / 0-)

    You have brought attention to the Recall campaign and made more people aware of the fact that the Democratic Party of WI needs resources to GOTV.

    I had some issues with your earlier posts on the subject because they obscured the fact that the DNC is helping with the recalls.  The fact is, there is a sizable OFA staff on the ground in WI and they are fully coordinating with the DPW on the recalls.  The DPW wants more money, which is understandable, but the DNC is understandably reluctant to spend its warchest that it is accumulating for GOTV this fall.

    People can agree or disagree with the DNC's decisionmaking, but it does have some logic to it, and again, they ARE helping out in WI.  Thank you for your balanced portrayal on the story in this article.

    •  There is some logic, (12+ / 0-)

      but the emphasis is on 'some'.

      What happens in Wisconsin is a precursor to what may happen in November.  If Walker and the SuperPACs win, you can be assured the Republicans will shout their victory from the rooftops nationwide.

      DNC and DWS:  winning the smaller battle now will make winning the much larger war easier later on - relatively speaking.

      The DNC has been asking and asking and asking for my support, and this is how we're rewarded?

      (BTW - I donated directly to the Democrats of Wisconsin.  Yeah - I'm proud to be a Colorado Badger!!)

      "Our greatest enemy brought to justice by our greatest heroes." Osama bin Laden, and Seal Team 6; credit is given where credit is due. (Quote from an ad to re-elect President Obama.)

      by Maverick80229 on Wed May 16, 2012 at 09:41:00 AM PDT

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  •  More proof the DNC is out of touch with the base. (4+ / 0-)

    Not listening to us will cost us the White House too.

    cheerleaders need not apply.

    by kravitz on Wed May 16, 2012 at 09:27:19 AM PDT

    •  no young ourt of touch with how DNC uses funds (0+ / 0-)

      Typically DNC money is raised for National races, not state races. Money for state races usually is raised through local Dem committees.

      That is why it is called the Democratic NATIONAL Committee!

      •  How stupid of us all not to know that (0+ / 0-)

        National means National !  Who knew ?!?

        and when the National  Republicans roll right over the Wisconsin Democrats ... well at least we'll have the consolation of knowing the defeat was conducted according to the Usual (National)  Policy.

        Policy"is, of course,  what lower middle management uses in place of judgment, and what upper middle management uses in place of conscience.  

        It's just keeps getting  harder and harder  to believe the National Party has the National interest at heart -- much less in mind.

        Maybe it's all  just an intramural volleyball tournament   Red Team Donkeys vs Blue team Jumbos --  but "all on the same side after all."

        You think?

        The Americans have two political parties.  One represents the interests of the Rich ... the other represents the interests of the VERY Rich!

  •  Error: This is not support from the DNC. (3+ / 0-)
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    tgrshark13, COBALT1928, chuckvw

    This is "just words," as the head of the party rather famously said.

    Of course, he also said that he would find his comfy shoes and be with us, which also turned out to be "just words."

    "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

    by Cream City on Wed May 16, 2012 at 09:34:09 AM PDT

  •  Money talks, BS walks. (12+ / 0-)

    Does anyone seriously believe that what the recall effort needs most is help with boots on the ground! After the outstanding and protracted efforts folks there have mobilized I think it is evident that what is needed is cash to counter the massive infusions that Walker has received.

    I won't believe corporations are people until Texas executes one. Leo Gerard.

    by tgrshark13 on Wed May 16, 2012 at 09:36:44 AM PDT

  •  Guess the DNC doesn't want my money then (2+ / 0-)
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    Shahryar, Maverick80229

    If they can't be bothered to fight Walker, why should I believe they'd be willing to fight anyone else?  have the kochheads bought the DNC too?

  •  Myopic thinking as usual out of Washington (5+ / 0-)

    Politics, like many sports, is often all about momentum. Wisconsin is a big, big battle. It is the next big battle. If we win Wisconsin we go into November with all the momentum. If we lose Wisconsin the other side goes into November with momentum. It is myopic of Washington to think this is a state battle and not worthy of funds otherwise targeted for federal campaigns. Especially since Wisconsin is nominally a battleground state at the Presidential level, is definitely a battleground at the critical US Senate level, and has several pick up opportunities for us at the US House level come November.

    This should be a no-brainer but that is generally what we see out of Washington based party organizations such as the DNC, DCCC and DSCC... no brains.

    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Wed May 16, 2012 at 09:47:28 AM PDT

  •  I asked this question in another diary (2+ / 0-)
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    Andrew C White, Larsstephens

    But I am going to ask it again.

    Does the DNC ever get financially involved in Governor Races or any state races for at matter?

    Republican Family Values: Using the daughters from your first wife to convince everybody that your second wife is lying about your third wife.

    by jsfox on Wed May 16, 2012 at 09:48:31 AM PDT

    •  Not typically no (4+ / 0-)
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      kat herder, Tamar, pdx kirk, Larsstephens

      The DNC exists to win or keep the White House. The DCCC exists to win or keep House seats. The DSCC exists to win or keep US Senate seats.

      But as I said above this is about momentum and a DNC leadership team that could see beyond conventional wisdom would understand the importance of winning Wisconsin for setting the national narrative heading into the fall as well as laying the groundwork for winning important seats there in the fall.

      "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

      by Andrew C White on Wed May 16, 2012 at 09:53:03 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Interesting question. (1+ / 0-)
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      Larsstephens

      The answer is a qualified yes.  They contributed to Deeds' and Kaine's governors' races for example.  Those however are in odd numbered years.

      In Presidential years, for better or worse, the DNC is going to be primarily focused on retaining or gaining the Presidency.  That is how it has been understood to function in the past and that is how it is functioning this year.  This is the right outlook in my view, even though others disagree.

      Fact is, the DNC has given over $750K this cycle as part of the usual distribution of resources to state parties nationwide.  If the DNC were to give additional funds to the recalls in a Presidential year that would actually be quite extraordinary.

      What many people forget is that the DNC has also spent money in WI staffing up for Obama's reelect.  Those staffers are working hand in hand with DPW Recall staff to elect Barrett and the other Dems.

      People can dig deeper here:
      http://www.opensecrets.org/...

    •  Are they sending money to Elizabeth Warren? (1+ / 0-)
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      Maverick80229
  •  Still bupkis from the DNC (3+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude, Maverick80229, dclawyer06

    I e-mailed them on Monday to ask why, if they won't support Wisconsin now I should support them at all.

    As of this comment's post time, no reply.

    Time for another Dean insurgency to drag them kicking and screaming out of D.C. and into the rest of the country.

  •  don't believe in outside $ for state campaigns (0+ / 0-)

    Most voters resent outside $$$ coming in for staetwide offices.  A gov race is different from Senate  our House race. This is about WI onlyl

  •  Money talks (1+ / 0-)
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    Maverick80229

    I miss howard dean..

    Peace and low stress .. http://www.dailykos.com/blog/NYS39th

    by mdmc on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:00:16 AM PDT

  •  I've just gave $100 to WisDems. (2+ / 0-)
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    Maverick80229, pdx kirk

    I'm starting to have "What's the Matter with Kansas" feelings about Wisconsin with Walker 5 points ahead in the polls and about the whole US with Romney running even with Obama.

    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:01:16 AM PDT

  •  I just talked with a DNC representative and (1+ / 0-)
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    pdx kirk

    she said that she and her supervisor have been told that  fundraising for the Walker recall and in support of the Democratic primary winner (Tom Barrett) has been going on since late last year.  (OK - where is the money, DNC, Dems, etc.)

    I told her that that word needs to get out, that we progressives need to win this battle in Wisconsin, and that DWS needs to do more than raise money from people who've already given until it hurts, and more!

    Just...freakin'...DO IT!!

    "Our greatest enemy brought to justice by our greatest heroes." Osama bin Laden, and Seal Team 6; credit is given where credit is due. (Quote from an ad to re-elect President Obama.)

    by Maverick80229 on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:01:38 AM PDT

  •  Come on, DNC, do the full Warren Zevon! (2+ / 0-)
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    non acquiescer, lippythelion69

    Send lawyers, guns and money.  (Well, at least the lawyers and the money!)

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:02:03 AM PDT

  •  ...{i.e., "Good for you"} (0+ / 0-)

    *pat-pat-pat*

    It seems curiosity has killed the cat that had my tongue.

    by Murphoney on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:05:05 AM PDT

  •  DNC... NATIONAL, not state committee (1+ / 0-)
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    Larsstephens

    YOU need to understand that the DNC raises money for national races, not state races.

  •  SHOW ME THE MONEY (1+ / 0-)
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    Maverick80229

    If you want to see mine for the Fall, show me yours now, Deb.

    We get what we want - or what we fail to refuse. - Muhammad Yunus

    by nightsweat on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:14:17 AM PDT

  •  the Obama campaign (0+ / 0-)

    would ALREADY be registering voters for the fall. They have offered nothing that they wouldn't be doing even in the absence of the recall election.

    shame on them.

  •  Done. I'm in for a few more bucks. (2+ / 0-)
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    spritegeezer, pdx kirk

    This is a crucial race. No doubt.

    •  It's too bad the DNC sees it as purely local. (2+ / 0-)
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      pdx kirk, Ian Reifowitz

      If they win this one it will embolden them to get even more draconian.  We keep thinking that most Republicans are rational, reasonable people.  That may have been true at one time (I'm not sure of that myself) but the Republicans of today are irrational, irresponsible and totally radicalized.  They are the Weathermen of today and we have been understanding and tolerant for far too long.

      You have the right to remain silent. If you waive that right you will be accused of class warfare.

      by spritegeezer on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:54:52 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The DKOS Poll puts Walker at 50% and +5... (2+ / 0-)
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    cowchief, untorqued

    That's on the margins of what I would consider competitive.  With only 3% undecided, it means Barrett needs to run the table of the remaining voters AND get some Walker supporters to shift over, all in three weeks.  Not saying it's not possible, but I wouldn't begrudge DNC from taking a hard look at the race and weighing the merits of spending now vs November.

    •  But there are six races in play, and in some ways (0+ / 0-)

      it seems to me, turning the senate is the most important outcome. I assume the money that is being asked for is not just for Barrett.  Yes?

      .....it's on the table, under the watermelon she demurred. Thanks, I was planning on shaving anyway he replied.

      by pdx kirk on Wed May 16, 2012 at 11:17:28 AM PDT

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      •  That is a rather big assumption. (1+ / 0-)
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        Larsstephens

        It could be true, but typically the way state parties work is when there is a top of the ticket race, they focus their resources on that.  Downballot races benefit from the statewide work that is done in their districts, but usually they don't get much special attention.

        That is how it has typically worked in the several different states I have worked on campaigns in.  WI could be doing things differently, but the thing is, we just have no way of knowing.

  •  When the DNC calls, I now say that I (3+ / 0-)

    only give to individual candidates.  And that is mostly true, but I have given to the Wisconsin recall effort through DKos.  I am sure there are others, too.  I see no point in giving to the DNC anymore.

    Hey, Republicans, the whole world is watching.

    by TAH from SLC on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:43:14 AM PDT

  •  I Heard That The DGA Was Going To (1+ / 0-)
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    Larsstephens

    give Barret some money.  Is this correct or not?

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Wed May 16, 2012 at 10:44:00 AM PDT

  •  This site is read by Democrats in DC (1+ / 0-)
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    Maverick80229

    Look, if Walker wins this, there may be a domino effect for Romney.  Surely the strategists know this.  That may be why they are holding back their precious dollars.

    But it is also a fundamtental of political activism that you don't go into a battle because you know you are going to win, but because you know it is the right and only thing to do.  

    If you fight hard enough, you might win.  

    If you don't try you surely will not.

    People getting cross eyed from studying all the statistics and the various angles can become scared of the sheer complexity of trying to triangulate the odds.  

    But it is really very simple.  

    THe DNC has to try with everything they have because if they don't the national election could be lost just on the basis of leaving a stone unturned.  

    Now is the time to be counted.  Step Up!

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Wed May 16, 2012 at 11:57:15 AM PDT

  •  Perhaps Wisconsin Democrats should (0+ / 0-)

    ask Obama / DNC for the same level of support Obama showed Lieberman?

    "I know that some in the party have differences with Joe," Senator Obama said, all but silencing the crowd. "I'm going to go ahead and say it. It's the elephant in the room. And Joe and I don't agree on everything. But what I know is, Joe Lieberman's a man with a good heart, with a keen intellect, who cares about the working families of America."

    Then, with applause beginning to build, he finished the thought: "I am absolutely certain that Connecticut's going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the United States Senate." That time, people cheered loudly.

    Yeah.  I thought not either.

    Perhaps Wisconsin should have chosen a more Wall Street connected "Blue Dog" to run against Walker.  Then I bet the spigots would have gushed $$.

    There is a reason that Obama's Chiefs of Staff come from Wall Street Banks. And it has nothing to do with Change We Can Believe In.

    by Johnathan Ivan on Wed May 16, 2012 at 12:30:25 PM PDT

  •  Hey Debbie! Remember? It's all about the Money! (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Why is anyone surprised? (0+ / 0-)

    This is an election year with a Democratic incumbent running for President.  The DNC is first and foremost an arm of the Committee to Re-elect the President, and only secondarily concerned with holding the Senate and taking back the House.  Given the massive amounts that are certain to be spent in anti-Obama messaging, thanks to Citizens United, they have to focus on fighting that.

    Sure, it would be nice if there actually was a national organization focused on actually growing the Democratic Party nationwide, but we've only seen that when Howard Dean was in charge.

    Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your shackles. It is by the picket line and direct action that true freedom will be won, not by electing people who promise to screw us less than the other guy.

    by rhonan on Wed May 16, 2012 at 02:13:03 PM PDT

  •  Fatalism disturbs me. (2+ / 0-)
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    lippythelion69, Larsstephens

    Yes, the poll numbers aren't great and the DNC isn't helping.  Walker has a rabid base of support, but I believe that it's maxed out and has nowhere to go but downhill in the next three weeks.

    Turnout CAN and WILL decide this election.  If Democrats can simply match their primary turnout, in which they cast 23,830 MORE votes than Republicans, Barrett will win.

    Don't give up, folks!  I'm sending Tom Barrett $50 today; won't you do the same?

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