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The Breitbart Crew has done the world a very valuable service in finding a 1991 biography of Barack Obama from his literary agent claiming he was “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
There then follows several hysterical paragraphs where Erick tries to say he is not going Birther.

Which if of course, a complete lie.  It's the old Nixon thing: "While many think my opponent is a communist, I am not one of those".

So the entire piece is actually really funny.

It is all complete nonsense.  But the comments are just plain hilarious in their utter and complete detachment from reality.  Almost to a comment they attack Erick for NOT going birther.

Yes, my friends, this is GOP grass roots.

Completely batshit crazy.

I have to note, in the end, one nutty comment:

Perhaps part of the Obama composite is that he’s really the illegitimate son of a black, married man (not married to Ann). A bastard. I have the FBI File on Malcolm X ISBN 0-88184-751-8 – a hard bound book. The man was in Seattle while Ann & her parents lived there. They all belonged to the SWP (Socialist Workers Party).
Nuttier than a three dollar bill.
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  •  Tip Jar (19+ / 0-)

    The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

    by fladem on Fri May 18, 2012 at 09:57:46 AM PDT

  •  The CIA infiltrated the right wing. (1+ / 0-)
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    Got them all to drink spiked Two If By Tea, furnished by a secret agent whose job was to expose the right wing nutjobs through jibes on the radio meant for ears sympathetic to such buffoonery.

    Is watching from a concealed safe room, beyond amazement at how well this plan to make the party self destruct is going.

    Every day is wonderful when you're with the CIA.

    cheerleaders need not apply.

    by kravitz on Fri May 18, 2012 at 10:08:31 AM PDT

  •  Malcolm X? (4+ / 0-)

    That's a new one.  I'd heard the theory about Frank Marshall Davis but this is even better - the secret bastard son of Malcolm X!

    “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

    by jrooth on Fri May 18, 2012 at 10:13:27 AM PDT

  •  Malcom X was really Obamas secret Dad? (8+ / 0-)

    Now we're getting somewhere! I also heard St. Ronald Reagan was once in Michigan while Mitts mother was too! Dare we make a connection?

    America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

    by cacamp on Fri May 18, 2012 at 10:15:01 AM PDT

  •  I think the issue isn't (1+ / 0-)
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    'where was Obama born'

    i think the question is, 'did he lie about where he was born' to his literary agent.

  •  Sean Hannity Is Miffed At Mitt...... (4+ / 0-)
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    Mitt had the perfect opportunity to revive Reverend Wright according to Sean.  He blew it.

    The plan to attack Obama as the "metrosexual black Abraham Lincoln" was leaked.  Mitt disavowed it.  Hannity thought it was perfect timing & a winner.

    Huh?  Haven't we been down this road before?  Hannity is like a dog w/ a bone.....he can't let go of the Reverend.  

  •  There was a diary on this last night, (2+ / 0-)
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    and all I got was crickets for my insistence that this is the first really dangerous birther argument to come along.

    You're omitting a big piece of the story.  It's not just a 1991 trade pamphlet from Obama's literary agency that claims he was born in Kenya.  The literary agency still had that on their website in 2007.  (There's a link to a WaybackMachine page that shows that in a comment to volleyboy1's diary from last night.)

    Obviously I don't think there's any doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii.

    But this development is going to greatly increase the power of the birthers to make mischief.

    Most people don't understand what a literary agency is, nor how the publishing business works.  Most will assume Obama submitted or at least vetted his own bio.  

    Remember, this was not just some little lark on the side.  Obama made his millions from his books.  This was serious business for him.

    And it's really strange to see that Obama himself, and his staff, didn't catch this error for 16 years.  In all that time, how could it not be true that at last one staffer would just do an "Obama" google and find that.

    I think the White House needs to take this very seriously.  What they can do is not clear to me.

    •  you on the wrong site dude (5+ / 0-)

      go to and express your "concern"

      Obama's defining political trait is the belief that conciliatory rhetoric is a ruthless strategy

      by AAMOM on Fri May 18, 2012 at 10:25:25 AM PDT

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      •  I've been here six years longer than you (2+ / 0-)
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        have.  It's very foolish just to mock this issue.

        •  yeah. it's hilarious. (3+ / 0-)
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          Obama's defining political trait is the belief that conciliatory rhetoric is a ruthless strategy

          by AAMOM on Fri May 18, 2012 at 10:34:24 AM PDT

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        •  To be fair, it's acceptable to air concerns.... (3+ / 0-)
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          when someone goes full out birther and insists that's the truth, then it's clear they're in the wrong place.  But expressing concern and talking out ideas is not forbidden, nor should it be.

          It seems like Timaeus is presenting fact and expressing concern that the campaign isn't trying to squash the rumors.

          But in the same breath, my personal opinion is why would they want to call attention to a piece of information that is not being widely covered by the media?  Why would they acknowledge this unproven piece of data?  It would only give the crazy birthers more fuel for the fire.  By ignoring it and essentially tossing it in the garbage with the rest of the birther nonsense theories, they are discrediting it's legitimacy without really doing anything.  To acknowledge it would lend it legitimacy.  To refute it would almost guarantee that the birthers will run with.  If/when this catches on with the MSM, then it would be appropriate to acknowledge that it's nonsense.

    •  The Literary Agent has said She Made the Mistake (5+ / 0-)


      Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.

      "This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

      "Conservatives care from conception to crowning." VetGrl " It's just a matter of time before the Republicans realize the Ten Commandments are "regulations."" TriassicSands

      by sailmaker on Fri May 18, 2012 at 10:38:01 AM PDT

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    •  Further, it doesn't matter WHERE he was born (0+ / 0-)

      One American parent makes him a citizen, as any military child can tell you.

      "Conservatives care from conception to crowning." VetGrl " It's just a matter of time before the Republicans realize the Ten Commandments are "regulations."" TriassicSands

      by sailmaker on Fri May 18, 2012 at 10:40:01 AM PDT

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      •  Nope, not true. I'm an immigration lawyer and (3+ / 0-)
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        have researched this myself.  Under the nationality law in effect at the time of Obama's birth, a U.S. citizen mother had to be at least 19 at the time the child was born to transmit citizenship, and Stanley Ann Dunham was only 18 when he was born.  (The law has later gotten more liberal, but that doesn't apply retroactively.)  Thus, if he was born in Kenya, he would not have been a U.S. citizen at birth.

        But he was born in Hawaii, so this is moot.

      •  It does matter where he was born (0+ / 0-)

        A foreign-born naturalized American citizen cannot run for President.  I believe you have to be born in the United States.

        “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

        by ivorybill on Fri May 18, 2012 at 01:27:00 PM PDT

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        •  It's certainly not clear that "natural born" (1+ / 0-)
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          requires birth in the United States.  I don't believe any court has ever ruled that way.  The U.S. Senate issued a proclamation declaring McCain to be "natural born," even though he was born in either the Canal Zone or more likely Panama.

          You are correct that a foreign-born naturalized U.S. citizen is not eligible to be president.

          Nobody knows exactly what "natural born" means, but I think there is complete agreement that at a minimum it requires a person to have automatically become a U.S. citizen at birth.

          •  But the canal zone (0+ / 0-)

            was US territory at the time, no?  

            I was under the impression that if someone was born in France for example, or the UK, but not physically on US territory or possessions or perhaps a military base, that they would be ineligible.  Doesn't matter much to me, actually it seems like a bit of a silly issue, but I thought location mattered.

            “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

            by ivorybill on Fri May 18, 2012 at 02:31:05 PM PDT

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            •  Yes, the Canal Zone was U.S. territory at that (0+ / 0-)

              time.  I'm not sure how that factors in.  There was a law professor who wrote a good article in 2008 arguing that McCain was not natural born, but I don't recall his name at the moment.  I do recall that the evidence seemed to suggest he was born at a nearby hospital in the territory of Panama, rather than at the U.S. base.

    •  I'm guessing that not much is clear to you. (0+ / 0-)

      Romney - 2012 - If You Want Honesty, Vote For The Other Guy!

      by kitebro on Fri May 18, 2012 at 11:12:47 AM PDT

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    •  the following is a quote from my father's (1+ / 0-)
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      FiredUpInCA biography page (not done by him or any member of my family:)

      He married his second wife, Alice Susan Trimiew, after she moved to New Bedford in 1977, and they had two daughters, Nia and Ayan. Hoagland already had two other children, Kamal and Reza Eve, with his first wife Darrell Steward Foreman.

      Read more:

      the info about alice and my sisters nia and ayan are correct.  the info about me and my sister reza is not.

      for one thing Reza is the youngest of us.  for another Darrell was his third wife.

      see how it can happen?  my dad takes this stuff very seriously and it's "serious business" for him, as people research him for speaking engagements and poetry readings.

      I've written to get that corrected.  it hasn't been.  life goes on.  it's not strange at all that the info remained uncorrected, in my experience.

      (that was me taking your comment in good faith.  it was a tossup as to whether I would.)

      This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

      by mallyroyal on Fri May 18, 2012 at 12:41:19 PM PDT

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    •  Any birther argument is dangerous (0+ / 0-)

      because there is no limit to the falsehoods people will believe if they hear them often enough.  "Obama is a foreigner.  He's not one of us.  He must have been born outside the United States."  

      People can be sold on almost any set of lies.  Look at the way that fewer people accept that human-generated climate change is real than even five years ago.  Look at how many idiots believe in the rapture or that little 5 year old boys in Kansas can go to heaven and come back and tell us about it.  Or that a convicted fraud could read "reformed Egyptian" off of gold tablets using a special stone, when neither the tablets nor the stone were ever produced.  A presidential candidate believes that whopper.  People will believe utter nonsense if others around them profess to believe the same, and if it reinforces some emotional need they have to belong to a group.

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Fri May 18, 2012 at 01:35:01 PM PDT

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    •  Stanley Ann Dunham (1+ / 0-)
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      What a piece of work. Because in order to give credence to birtherism, you have to believe there is evidence that 18 y.o. Stanley Ann, pregnant with a black man's baby, flew thousands of miles to a British African colony to have her baby. You have to believe that Madelyn Dunham was such an incompetent mother, that she allowed her only child to do this. So the slam isn't on Obama, its on his mother and grandmother. Janny Scott did an exhaustive biography of Ann and found no evidence of her visiting Africa before her son's birth. Besides, International air travel to Africa wasn't that easy in the '60's.

      Obama did not seek a book deal. The publisher sought him as they thought it was an interesting story about the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He had no expectations of making money. He took at least 3 years to get it together and the rights to the book were picked up later when he went into politics.

      Somehow, all this birther nonsense reminds me of the Egyptians, who, once a pharaoh had died or fell out of favor, his hieroglyph was erased. Those folks seem to believe if they can de-legitimize him constitutionally, then his election and presidency didn't exist.

      At this point, those who 'worry' about any legitimacy of Obama's citizenship at this point were loathe to accept it in the first place.

      Never underestimate the ability of the Right to overreach.

      by never forget 2000 on Fri May 18, 2012 at 01:40:18 PM PDT

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    •  Like this. (0+ / 0-)

      . . . from Julie, Julia. "Oh, well. Boo-hoo. Now what?"

      by 88kathy on Fri May 18, 2012 at 02:24:34 PM PDT

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      •  I don't have Flash so I can't view that. (1+ / 0-)
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        •  you've seen it a million times (0+ / 0-)

          . . . from Julie, Julia. "Oh, well. Boo-hoo. Now what?"

          by 88kathy on Fri May 18, 2012 at 04:09:40 PM PDT

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        •  My point being that in 1991 when Obama might (1+ / 0-)
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          have looked at the list, Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet.  And in the years after, Obama was too busy.  

          . . . from Julie, Julia. "Oh, well. Boo-hoo. Now what?"

          by 88kathy on Fri May 18, 2012 at 04:16:54 PM PDT

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          •  Ha. I have Flash on my home computer and (1+ / 0-)
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            I see your joke.  Your point is well taken.

            mallyroyal is probably right that I'm overthinking this issue.

            I'm just a worrier (all lawyers are worriers, and I'm REALLY bad about that) and I was puzzled and dismayed by the latest birther development. But it will probably just blow over.

            I must say...I never got excited about a new phonebook, he he.

            •  Obama caught us all by surprise, I think that (1+ / 0-)
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              if you searched my comments from that era you would find my typo Osama more than once.  I used to have to say the little poem, I'm not Osama, I'm not your momma, I'm Barack Obama.  And still I am sure the Osama typo got through. Glad Breitbart and the Sheriff of Knottheadham didn't find those comments and make me a star.

              . . . from Julie, Julia. "Oh, well. Boo-hoo. Now what?"

              by 88kathy on Sat May 19, 2012 at 10:05:44 AM PDT

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  •  Brought you by CNN (3+ / 0-)
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    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Fri May 18, 2012 at 10:27:33 AM PDT

  •  If Obama could find some way to run for (1+ / 0-)
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    President of the World, what would the birther argument look like then?

    There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

    by oldpotsmuggler on Fri May 18, 2012 at 10:41:02 AM PDT

  •  well that does it for me. If it came from a (8+ / 0-)
    a hard bound book

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