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Mitt Romney
Coward. (Darren Hauck/Reuters)
Take a minute and think carefully of all the public figures you've disliked throughout your life. File through all the politicians, entertainers, sports figures, and the like. Assuming you are a somewhat reasonable, normal person, you probably have strong opinions some of these folks. Perhaps you reached the point of hating one or two of them. Now, if you can, try and mentally assemble all the people you never liked on a thermometer, with those you can probably tolerate at the bottom and those who make your blood boil at the very top. Take a mental picture of that person. Now bring it forward to the front of your mind. Do you see Mitt Romney?

It is well understood that Democrats do not like Mitt Romney's policies. In fact, our leading politicians will go out of their way, as we Democrats are wont to do, to praise Mitt Romney's character. We practice the rather high minded view that our disagreement with him and his party is not personal, but purely a matter of phiolosophical and political differences. We think it is impolite to call Mitt Romney "weird." That it is unseemly to ask questions about his church or the things taught from its pulpits. We cannot attack the character of his family or his associates. We think ourselves better than this sort of thing, content in being able to look at ourselves in the morning for not having gone done the road Republicans often do not hesitate to travel. Speaking for myself, however, my perception of Mitt Romney has almost nothing to do with his policies, most of which are standard nutcase Republican fare. There are plenty of other Republicans who parrot the same talking points as Mitt Romney, but they don't get up to the top of my thermometer. I even find Limbaugh a mere bufoon. But there is so much about Mitt Romney that makes me detest him more than any public figure I've known in my life. In my mind he's the worst kind of person that should be involved in politics. It basically comes down to this: Mitt Romney has spent his entire life preying on the weak and defenseless, always from a position of complete safety for himself. In other words, he's a coward.

His propensity for lying is well known. His lack of any central convictions about anything other than his own ambitions well documented. As he's run for the highest office in the land, we are now getting enough stories about his life that allow us to examine it as a whole. Consider his willingness in his youth to engage in violent hazing with a gang of similary privliged ruffians against a defenseless outsider. Consider his callous mistreatment of his own household pets. Think back about the episode when Romney talked about how illegal immigrants ended up maintaining his lawn and his open hostility toward them today. Consider how harshly he has treated his own employees when money was at stake. Look at how he has treated his fellow competitors for the Republican nomination. In every case, Romney has always attacked the weak with particular viciousness. In every case, Romney has kept his distance, doing it all from the comfort of an office tower or lordly estate. Do you think Mitt Romney would personally deliver a pink slip to a steelworker? Would he personally walk up to a gardner and fire him to his face? Would he attack a gay person without a pack of toughs behind him? He offers $10,000 bets to people who don't have $10,000 to bet. He braggs about the joy he takes in firing people. Worse thing about it is, he does it in a way that makes it appear that he truly believes that he's doing you a favor. "Pranks and hijinks," he says. "Politics aren't bean bags," he says. An overbearing gorilla calls a woman a slut over the airwaves and his response is "not the sort of words I'd have chosen." The man is a coward. He won't confront the strong and forces himself on the weak. His entire life, that's all he's done. You can't find one instance where Mitt Romney actually stood up and fought for someone other than himself. Find a case where Mitt Romney put himself at risk on someone else's behalf. Look and see if you can find a single case where Mitt Romney sacrificed something for someone else's benefit. You can't because he doesn't.

No, Mitt Romney is not a patriot. No, Mitt Romney is not a great guy. No, Mitt Romney isn't a wonderful guy in private. Mitt Romney is an self-indulgent, egomaniacal, sociopathic coward.

There are plenty of reasons to vote against Mitt Romney even if he agreed with us on policy. He isn't the kind of person who should be in public life, except perhaps as a "heel" character on pro wrestling. People like him should peak in high school and then go learn their life lessons through hard knocks in obscurity. Had it not been for Romney's wealth and pedigree, that is exactly what would have happened. Perhaps it is rather low brow to want a public leader who actually has a heart and a moral compass that aims true. Who laughs without ulterior motive. Who doesn't think legal entities are the same thing as human beings. But if there are voters who vote against Mitt Romney because they just can't stand him, that's fine with me. I'm right there with them.

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  •   Democrats do not like Mitt Romney's policies (39+ / 0-)

    They like at least some of them.  ACA is a Mitt Romney policy from his days as governor of Massachusetts.

    There is, adMittedly, a real problem trying to figure out exactly what a Mitt Romney policy is.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:02:51 AM PDT

    •  Is this how he is beaten? (18+ / 0-)

      My fear is that it is well within U.S. political tradition to demonize the enemy.  He may be a coward, vulture, and many other negatives that provoke an emotional rejection and a desire to vomit.

      How is that going to sit with the fence-sitters and closet ethnocentrists?  Mr. Etch-a-sketch evinces the qualities of most senior corporate execs.  Though this category may have reached its zenith and is looking at the downside of their popularity--they still captivate some in the U.S. (and to a lesser degree abroad).

      Perhaps this can be distilled down to two words-- "So What?"
      If we hyperventilate over what a coward Mittens is, then we may miss other factors that would sway those who might vote for him.

      Of course I have my own emotional bias--If Romney were elected president then the ascendancy of the corporation and its rule over our lives would be complete.

      I believe Romney is amoral.  His instincts are undemocratic/autocratic, self-serving, and myopic.  We should consider illustrating these qualities rather than emotionally laden definitions.

      The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.

      by Agent Orange on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:42:46 AM PDT

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      •  You hit the nail on the head WRT Demonizing. (3+ / 0-)

        After being bombarded with a bazillion look-alike political ads demonizing candidates over the last few election cycles, I suspect that we are becoming numb.

        Doesn't mean it's going to stop, just makes me wonder how effective it'll be.

        The election will still boil down to the economy and whether voters want to give the President a swift kick in the kiester.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:07:04 AM PDT

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      •  He does. He's just like a CEO (2+ / 0-)
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        And people in general hate CEOs. Hate them. Think they're horrible people, vultures, can't do real work.

        The show Undercover Boss just proves it. I can't think of many of the CEOs who could do even the most menial job. The only ones who could were the ones who'd worked in the business for years, and had done those jobs years ago.

        The others? Didn't even know how to clean a toilet, literally.

        The fact that there's even a show like that shows you just how out of touch they are, and how little people think of them.

        •  And then they lob $1000 to someone (1+ / 0-)
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          freelunch

          Who's struggling to pay healthcare bills or give a week vacation to someone who has worked tirelessly for their company for 20 years with no recognition and a crappy salary.... And they think that they're the freaking wise men bestowing gold, frankencense and  myrrh....

          © grover


          So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

          by grover on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:56:00 PM PDT

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        •  To me Romney is Gordon Gekko... (3+ / 0-)
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          mmacdDE, hooper, Matt Z

          ...but with even less of an ethical backbone and no balls.

          "We see things not as they are, but as we are." - John Milton

          by Jasonhouse on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:58:10 PM PDT

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        •  People in general hate CEOs? (0+ / 0-)

          Hmmm.

          Must have been a bunch of aliens expressing that sadness when Steve Jobs died.

          Must also be aliens who have caused Bill Gates to show up on so many "most admired" lists.

          I think you mean progressives hate CEOs.

          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

          by dinotrac on Sun May 20, 2012 at 02:44:07 PM PDT

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      •  It is easy to picture someone voting against (0+ / 0-)

        Romney because of distaste or antipithy caused by a strong dislike of him on a personal basis. I can't see that he would garner any votes based on someone actually liking the guy. The only strong emotion he seems able to provoke is one of disdain.

         At the end of the day, it may well be what decides the outcome -- not policy. I just don't think people want to see him on their teevees for the next four years.

        it tastes like burning...

        by eastvan on Sun May 20, 2012 at 02:43:52 PM PDT

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        •  Romney makes the best case I can think of for a no (1+ / 0-)
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          dinotrac

          deferment draft. At least for a couple of years he would have been forced to do the one thing he has never had to....stand or fall on his own merits in a situation where his money and background wouldn't mean a damn thing.

           And I don't think he could have cut it.

          it tastes like burning...

          by eastvan on Sun May 20, 2012 at 02:47:22 PM PDT

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      •  He is a sociopath. Is pointing that out demonizing (1+ / 0-)
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        brooklyn137

        Romney does not care what happens to other people. How can we get that across without having people complaining that he is being demonized?

        The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

        by freelunch on Sun May 20, 2012 at 03:22:25 PM PDT

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      •  Since most people vote emotionally (0+ / 0-)

        attacks on Romney's character could move "fence sitters." I personally hate the Democratic tendency to say "We are better than that."

        Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

        by anastasia p on Sun May 20, 2012 at 04:18:45 PM PDT

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    •  Gosh, thanks for the citation, Brookie (17+ / 0-)

      My 5/14 comment.  But you left out a coupla things.

      Romney's pathological lack of feeling/empathy.
      Romney has a pathological lack of feeling/empathy:
      It resonates because it is the theme of Romney's life.
      1 Bullying/assaulting gays (Hate Crimes),
      2 Destroying so many lives through Bain,
      3 Strapping the hound to roof of his car
      4 Scurrilous attack ads as MA gov and now,
      5 Actively persecuting homosexuals rhetorically,
      administratively and financially ($ support for CA Prop 8)
      6 Stressing out wife with MS as candidate/Gov/Pres.
      (stress accelerates MS nerve degeneration)
      7 Total inability to communicate emotionally:'
      because the emotion/feeling ain't there to communicate.
      8 Compulsive liar
      9 Persecuting immigrants
      10 If we but look, odds are there is more, lots more because it's who he is at core.
      Not a life of service but a self serving life. This kind of pathological grandiosity is more closely associated with Hitler than American presidents

      Romney has characterological flaws big enough to drive a truck through, perhaps a true sociopath. We should Clinton him (treat him the way the GOP treated Clinton and Kerry).
      Imagine such a monster as President.

      Romney: Wrong on GM. Wrong on bin Laden. Wrong on fiscal austerity and wrong for America. I voted for change. Where is my vote?

      by SGWM on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:21:49 AM PDT

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      •  Recently a diary on "Romney the sociopath"... (12+ / 0-)

        The diary did not get recommended which I really regret because I strongly feel that it raised a point that had not really occurred to me, but which I fear has a great deal of truth to it.  A sociopath has no ability to truly understand the feelings of other people.  I know that there's a very wide spectrum in this disorder but Romney is truly out on the wrong end of the bell-shaped curve.  
        I'll point out just one statement that, in light of all of the others he has made, really seals the case: "Corporations are people, my friend".  Think about that...  He might of said "I think that corporations have rights just as people do, and in my opinion Citizens United is a correct decision".  He might have said "Corporations are the powerhouses of employment and should enjoy the right to affect the destiny of this great Country just a people do".  But he didn't.  He said "Corporations are people".  That means that he either has no concept of what a corporation is, or no concept of what a "people" is.  Where do you think his ignorance lies?  

        •   Oh, he understands. (2+ / 0-)
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          SGWM, sagesource

          The deep flaws lie not in his understanding but in which he values more.

          © grover


          So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

          by grover on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:58:59 PM PDT

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      •  Easy to imagine-remember W. Stolen election 2000, (7+ / 0-)

        ignoring "hair on fire" warnings from national security specialists,  My Pet Goat, dinner with Saudi Prince night after 9/11, flying bin Laden relatives out of the US before FBI, CIA could talk with them, lying about "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq, invading Iraq for oil, pallets of $100. bills missing, mass war profiteering, detention without trial, torture in the name of the USA, that Correspondents dinner with W. smirking/clowning looking under the tablecloth for those missing "WMDs" while Americans and foreigners who never did us any harm were suffering and dying, New Orleans...and I could go on. I'll always hate Bush & Cheney but it has become  a cold, indifferent hate now that they are out of office.

        Should (may the Fates forbid) Romney become president,  THEN I'll hate him because of what he will do.  For now, my blood is not boiling.  I'm just working as much as I can to help the good guys/gals win.  

        "...it's difficult to imagine what else Republicans can do to drive women away in 2012, unless they decide to bring back witch-hanging. And I wouldn't put it past them." James Wolcott

        by Mayfly on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:13:38 PM PDT

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        •  your blood should boil (3+ / 0-)
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          The one saving grace about Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who had to hold hands while talking to the 9/11 Commission, is that aside from illegal wire taps and the desire to privatize Social Security (and, happily, then, there was no general consensus for doing that) they left most people alone.  

          Mr. Romney, on the other hand, wants to decimate Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, unions (both civil and workers'), unemployment compensation, minimum wages, etc.  He wants to lower taxes on the "job creators" which will inevitably lead to reduced attention to infrastructure and school subsidies -- and to higher taxes on the poor and the working class -- and he wants to end any semblance of assistance to those who need help the most, ending the Affordable Care Act (if the Supreme Court does not).  He wants to deregulate banks and businesses, and that would lead to massive problems, including more lost savings and more lost homes, not to mention increased pollution, the increased chance of food poisoning, etc.  

          Smirk Bush was irritating from first glance, long before he stole the election, and one can only imagine what surprises Mr. Romney will spring if he either rigs the election or is officially elected (due to voter suppression and other tricks or due to the irrational hatred that some harbor for President Obama).  

          And policies aside, remember how painful it was to listen to Mr. Bush or Mr. Cheney mangle the language and common sense as they sneered at the masses?  Mr. Romney can barely string together a cohesive thought already, and he is likely to seem unhinged even further if he is chosen to face the real pressures of the presidency.  It won't be a pretty sight.  With Mr. Romney bending to the whims of any and all the powers that be, making inconsistent, contradictory decisions, and with the Tea Party contingent ready to shred every right and privilege we now enjoy, things could get ugly quickly.

          •  W & Cheney left most people alone? Tell that to (7+ / 0-)

            our military.  And, the civilian populations of Iraq and Afghanistan.  

            This is a sore point for me.  The demands and sacrifices of these wars have been carried by so few.   "Most people" forget that.

            Comfort the afflicted. Afflict the comfortable.

            by FindingMyVoice on Sun May 20, 2012 at 01:56:05 PM PDT

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          •  Bush and Cheney sure didn't leave me alone..... (2+ / 0-)
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            Matt Z, Laconic Lib

            their economic policies shattered my retirement savings;
            they enriched their friends at the public trough;
            they invaded our civil liberties with The Patriot Act;
            they foisted a useless and incompetent new bureaucracy on the flying public by forming the TSA...

            on the other hand, they DID leave the inhabitants of New Orleans alone to deal with their tragedy.

            If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. John F. Kennedy ( inaugural address, January 20, 1961)

            by Outraged Mom on Mon May 21, 2012 at 04:44:17 AM PDT

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    •  Mitt Romney believes it's his turn to rule (4+ / 0-)

      the peasants

      and anyone that does not have $20,000 to throw at their child without blinking is beneath him, if you don't have $10,000 at the ready for a silly bet you are beneath him and we should believe in him because well he is Mitt Romney and how dare we try to put him through a vetting process, how dare we?

      WTF

      Seeking Awareness and Truth for all Americans

      by The Sheeping of America on Sun May 20, 2012 at 01:20:58 PM PDT

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      •  So true.... (0+ / 0-)

        and as to stressing his wife with the difficulties of a Presidential Campaign? Nonsense.  She thinks it is her turn to be Queen.

        If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. John F. Kennedy ( inaugural address, January 20, 1961)

        by Outraged Mom on Mon May 21, 2012 at 04:45:59 AM PDT

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  •  If he were on our side... (12+ / 0-)

    ...he'd be Lieberman, I guess.

    The Obama/Biden Inaugural -- the exact moment when the world went from gray to colorful.

    by alkatt on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:04:39 AM PDT

  •  Rec'd! (10+ / 0-)

    Now I'll read more than the title.  :)

    Koch Industries, Inc: Quilted Northern, Angel Soft, Brawny, Sparkle, Soft 'n Gentle, Mardi Gras, Vanity Fair, Dixie

    by ChiTownDenny on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:04:51 AM PDT

  •  it takes courage (16+ / 0-)

    to hunt varmints.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:06:03 AM PDT

  •  Mitt Romney fights for other people all the time. (22+ / 0-)

    He just goes to bat for the wealthy and powerful, a long-time member of their bullpen. He battles with the weak to deliver what little they have to the strong.

    They tortured people to get false confessions to fraudulently justify our invading Iraq.

    by Ponder Stibbons on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:10:11 AM PDT

  •  Mitt Romney is the kind of coward you'd like to (5+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat, eXtina, JeffW, sethtriggs, Matt Z

    have a glass of milk with...but you sure as hell don't want to vote for him.

    Oh, and I wrote a diary a week ago labeling him as a "Super Coward."
    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right. I'm riding in the Tour de Cure. You can donate here.

    by darthstar on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:11:27 AM PDT

  •  "Romney's wealth and pedigree" (29+ / 0-)

    George Romney's wealth and pedigree

    Mitt Romney started out with nothing except a free education from his parents and his millionaire ex-politco governor's Rolodex of contacts.

    There was an disturbingly honest obit in the NY Times this week. It read about a shipping magnate who emigrated from vietnam in 1975(Eluding to the fall of Saigon) who started out with nothing .....Wait for it

    except a case filled with gold he had with him when he fled.

    Doctor Mitt Romney Brain Sturgeon-The Operation was a success but the patient died, where's my fee?

    by JML9999 on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:12:20 AM PDT

  •  The Demon Barber of Cranbrook (16+ / 0-)

    slutty voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare." 政治委员, 政委!

    by annieli on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:13:16 AM PDT

  •  It makes him the perfect candidate... (28+ / 0-)

    For all the chicken hawk Republicans, who are always very happy to send other peoples sons to war, to take away others rights, health care and social programs without ever having to actually see those people up close, instead of just the abstract 'they'. With someone like Mittens in charge, they can sit in their comfy Lazyboys and let him do the dirty work, keeping their distance instead of personally yanking the food out of the mouths of children and the elderly.

    And then they can continue to tell themselves what wonderful Christians they are.

    Romney 2012 - My mission, after Apple School, is to win the rodeo. I have a penguin doing roofie in my bathroom; come on over, we'll put on Zeppelin and eat cheddar cheese!

    by Fordmandalay on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:17:04 AM PDT

    •  Perfect for Karl Rove and crew (1+ / 0-)
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      diggerspop

      All I can figure is that the real power in the Republican party (Rove, Norquist, what's left of the Rumsfeld-Cheney gang, and of course the Koch Brothers) doesn't care who is nominal President, as long as it's someone who looks reasonably photogenic, can get (or steal) enough electoral votes, and will absolutely do what they tell him. In other words, Bush III. It isn't Romney we're electing; he's just the cardboard cutout. It's all the guys behind the curtain who really matter.

      So stressing what a jerk Romney is seems rather beside the point.

  •  All great points, except that to many Americans (15+ / 0-)

    especially of his generation (and yes I'm about to engage in boomer bashing but most of the boomers I've met simply confirm this stereotype) he is exactly the sort of person they look up to and have always wanted to be.

    Namely, rich, successful, attractive, fit, confident, and living the good life (of the country club, golf course, 5 star hotel variety), without an apparent care in the world. This sort of anodyne, context-free, amoral, above it all mode of existance and success has been the dream of millions of yuppies.

    You know, the type that subscribes to Money, Inc. and Fortune, maybe SI, TIME and H&G too, watches MTP and TW and reads Tom Friedman and David Brooks expecting substantive and accurate content and discussion, believes it when clowns like Tom Brokaw accuse both sides of being too extreme, etc.

    This is exactly the Mitt Romney demographic, and they're not seeing what we're seeing in him, perhaps because they're seeing themselves in him, and no one wants to see bad things in people they see themselves in. We need to take a different approach in persuading such people to note vote for him.

    Like competence. That, PLUS character, is how we take him down.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:17:52 AM PDT

    •  I was thinking how slavish and feudal (8+ / 0-)

      so many of the Repulibcan policies are...

      "oh please, my lord, my liege, please if we just bow low enough, genuflect carefully enough, pledge more of our land, will you please, please, please be nice to us...maybe just a few jobs.. ...no...okay...well we'll still be loyal...really...really...oh dear...where is my page...my armor got stuck again while I was trying to kneel."

      sh

    •  expand your mind (42+ / 0-)

      i am a baby boomer.  im a white, suburban dwelling, business owner with two kids who are fortunate enough to get a "free" education courtesy of their father.

      i am a "job creator" who personally benefits from the bush tax cuts.

      From the outside looking in one would assume me to be a Republican.  

      i am not a republican.
      i am not a republican.

      i am a proud and vocal progressive Democrat who knows many like minded baby boomers.  In Georgia where i live, sure i am in the minority, but we are here and we believe!

      Don't forget, the hippie generation, civil rights movement, women's equality movement and anti war movement all came from the baby boomer generation.  while our parents may have been the "greatest generation" saving the world from fascism, our is perhaps the "greatest generation of social change!"

      •  Me too! (29+ / 0-)

        I'm a late boomer who has always vehemently supported Democrats. I'm a Kennedy liberal, a lapsed Catholic who was nevertheless brought up in the social justice tradition.

        I worked my way through college. Was never entitled though I did grow up middle class. Worked very hard all my life. My first Presidential vote was for Jimmy Carter. We're not all Reagan Democrats by any means. I wish people would stop these futile insider wars. I shouldn't have to be insulted as a Dem on a Dem blog because others went to the dark side.

        It has been enough of a burden just being a boomer.

        In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

        by vcmvo2 on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:47:21 AM PDT

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        •  I'll never for the life of me (2+ / 0-)
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          nominalize, Laconic Lib

          understand why people who are clearly not of this type become so defensive when those who are of this type are called out for their selfishness? If you're not this type, and I'm sure that you're not, as I'm sure that most members of this site are not, then I'm not talking about you.

          Rather, I'm talking about the obviously large numbers of such types who are overrepresented in this cohort who vote their self-interest rather than the national interest. People who voted for Reagan, then Bush I, then Clinton, then Bush II, then Obama, and are now leaning towards Romney, because each time they viewed them as being best for THEIR bottom line.

          What kind of person can vote for all of the above? Yuppie boomers. No, they're not the majority of boomers, but they're perhaps the most politically relevant of boomers, because they swing from one party to another based mostly on perceived economic self-interest. Just because most people here don't belong to this group doesn't mean that they don't exist and haven't been a problem.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:16:15 PM PDT

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          •  What about millenials? (1+ / 0-)
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            diggerspop

            That grew up with Reagan as President and just routinely vote Repub?

            I live in a red county in deep blue Maryland and I am surrounded by them. It's just to my mind a losing way to categorize people.

            It is not simple. I am sick of being a boomer, actually always have been but I know decent ones as well as the many boneheads that went all in for Reagan and the "Greed is Good" crap.

            But Bill Gates and Steve Jobs and others of that age group also did other things as well then just the lockstep this is the way to succeed stuff from the Boomers. It was a tough group to grow up with.

            Of course they're a problem but so are many other sub-groups "southeners" etc... but there are many Southeners who are not in that group and are fighting like I am to break away from the BS. We don't need to hear it on dkos because we know it, we live it.

            So besides that, what's the point?

            In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

            by vcmvo2 on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:34:14 PM PDT

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          •  lot's of genxer (2+ / 0-)
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            yuppie weasels also. Almost all my useless MBA bosses who's secretaries ran their marketing department as they nattered on about will it play with joe sixpack were genxers'. Theirs a genx realtor down the street who's mantra is 'screw or get screwed'. Every generation has it's greed heads. It does gall me the most to come upon boomers mine, as many really did sell out in a big dog way.. There was a choice and a cultural change after the fifties. Too many were just about me me me.      

            •  Yes there were (3+ / 0-)
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              selfish a**holes everyone of them.

              OTOH my heroes were all assassinated in the '60's, I had a brother who died in Viet Nam in 1968 and in my town which was upper middle class very few "hawks" came to his wake or his funeral. It's that stuff that's caused me to dig in on my views, or rather become more "liberal" rather than less as I age.

              It was a hard group to grow up with. I never felt at home but I'm always lumped in with them, sigh...

              In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

              by vcmvo2 on Sun May 20, 2012 at 04:57:58 PM PDT

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              •  Me too (0+ / 0-)

                Grew up in the same kind of town - let as soon as I could get out.  And over the years I have gotten more liberal as well.  There's a FB page for the town - so many people who never left sound just like their parents did 40 years ago.  It's sad and scary at the same time.

            •  True (2+ / 0-)
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              I happen to be on the tail end of the boomers so I take particular exception to the selfishness of some boomers. They had so many advantages growing up, which so many turned mostly to their advantage. That's the part that most galls me, the discrepency between what they were given and what they gave back, the almost desperate narcissism that seemed to come from some fear that if they gave back just a little, they'd have to give back everything.

              Perhaps insecurity lies at the heart of their selfishness, a fear that they're just a breath away from losing it all, that they must have gotten from their parents, who grew up in a world where they really could lose it all in an instant, because they (or their parents, in the case of tail end boomers like me) actually did, in the great depression. So maybe on some level they figured they had to make it all about them, because it could end any second now.

              As for Xers, they came up in the waning days of the liberal era and early days of the conservative era, where things weren't so great, at least until St. Ronnie of Bonzo came along to light a shining path to the New Morning in America. He told them they could have it all so long as they went into finance, worked hard, and screwed the weak and defenseless lazy and undeserving. So maybe they get it from that, plus their yuppie parents. I don't know.

              One thing's for sure, as I see it. We need to change the national attitude towards work, success, fairness and what's right, away from what's right for oneself and oneself only, and towards good citizenship. We're a society, a community, not just a collection of individuals united only to make sure the garbage is collected and the roads kept feee of potholes. We don't have to agree on everything, and no one has to give up the hope of the good life. But there's got to be more than just what's in it for me. That's societal suicide.

              "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

              by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 06:13:08 PM PDT

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              •  ^^This^^ (2+ / 0-)
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                One thing's for sure, as I see it. We need to change the national attitude towards work, success, fairness and what's right, away from what's right for oneself and oneself only, and towards good citizenship. We're a society, a community, not just a collection of individuals united only to make sure the garbage is collected and the roads kept feee of potholes. We don't have to agree on everything, and no one has to give up the hope of the good life. But there's got to be more than just what's in it for me. That's societal suicide.
                Exactly!

                In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

                by vcmvo2 on Sun May 20, 2012 at 06:41:18 PM PDT

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              •  My grandparents (1+ / 0-)
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                were of the depression era and they were no bones about it life long liberals. They owned a small ranch in the San Fernando valley CA. When the depression hit they made it through by community. by pulling together and pooling  recourses and work. The grange helped my grandpa keep his ranch. He could not pay his workers however and they worked it out so that the workers lived on the ranch for no money and everybody worked it as in a commune.

                The crops and poultry that were not used to feed them selves were distributed to their neighbors and the homeless that came through on the freight  trains that were nearby.. The four freedom's of FDR illustrated by Rockwell hung on my grandmothers dining room walls. She loved Paul Robeson and had no use for the ultra conservative commie hunting 50's. McCarthy was the devil as far as she was concerned.              

                My parents on the other hand were decidedly upwardly mobile. They seemed to be ashamed of the 'commie' values of my grandparents. They were of the Mad Men mentality. You can't have enough money said my Dad often. My Dad was a Republican and my Mom a FDR/Kennedy Democrat.  Reactions and circles of generational conflicts.

                We have gone too far as a society into the dog eat dog end. We now seem to be back to the era of the gilded age. We accept the myth's of wealth creation and greed is good. My mom lived in Greece after my Dad died. when she would come back to the US in the nineties, she would  say 'This country has made being poor a crime'

                Your right 'no one has to give up hope of the good life'.  No one should have to be good at 'playing the game'  in order to live decently. Losers and winners are really not the point of a society. The common good should not be scorned as it is the glue that holds a society together.              

      •  Boomer bashing is a current fad amongst the young (12+ / 0-)

        er generations that I find repellant as all the stereotypes about other races, ethnic groups and about women. They are always using short cut thinking to paint the largest generation ever (who actually had nothing to do with that fact) I see it as someone who has some contacts that have used position to rub thier noses into thier power who paints a whole generation as that. Personally when I meet a boomer hater and scapegoater I get a little sick to my stomach and want to vote against them just to piss them off as much as they have pissed me off. But then I try to resist painting one group as a monolith like Southerners or people who live in red states or people with gray hair or ...

        Proud Slut...Fear is the Mind Killer

        by boophus on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:58:21 AM PDT

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    •  please, kovie, don't generalize this way. (16+ / 0-)

      I'm smack dab in the middle of the baby boom generation.  There has never been a moment, from the time I first became aware of politics in the early sixties, that I didn't favor candidates on the left.  I am an artist, as is my just-before-the-baby-boom husband, as are the people I surround myself with--the lion's share of whom are from the same generation.  

      I've worked every moment of my life, since my first job in the 5th grade, and wouldn't have it any other way.  I just lost my teaching job at a public university to massive budget cuts targeted directly to the humanities.  I've never longed for a country club existence, don't subscribe to any of the magazines you mentioned (preferring the New Yorker, Mother Jones and American Theater), find David Brooks to be a waste of ink, and while I admit that wishing to be "attractive, fit, confident" are the only part of your description that sounds like me, I find Romney creepy and repulsive.  

      I'm sorry that most boomers you've met are of the successful Republican stereotype you describe here, but to that I can only say I think you should get around more.

      Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

      by SottoVoce on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:05:32 AM PDT

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      •  I'm technically a boomer (1+ / 0-)
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        Born the last year of the cohort. And when I refer to boomers, I mean yuppie boomers for shorthand (although I used the term yuppie too above). I.e. I mean the types of people most associated with the boomer or yuppie stereotype even if they might not represent the majority.

        And frankly I don't know what other term to use, because although this type clearly exists in other generational groups, it tends to be overrepresented in this particular one, for various reasons I'm guessing from having been told by their parents since they were children how special they were, to having lived in a time of relative plenty, to having come up age in a time of maximal opportunity.

        And in my view many such types have made use of such advantages mainly for self-advancement and enrichment, above and beyond other generational cohorts. Remember, this was dubbed the "Me Generation" in the 70's, for good reason I believe. They're not necessarily "bad" people, just selfish ones. And I see people like Romney (who I believe IS bad) among their heros.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:19:06 AM PDT

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        •  You might want to quit while you're behind. (2+ / 0-)
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          by HappyinNM on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:58:38 AM PDT

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          •  Because you say so? (0+ / 0-)

            You're confusing the entire boomer cohort with yuppie boomers. I'm referring to the latter. Let's not turn this into another silly debate about how politically incorrect it is to disparage all boomers because a distinct subsection of them have decided to put their many advantages to self-enrichment, something that cannot be said of their parents or children.

            "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

            by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:03:27 PM PDT

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            •  If you mean to say "yuppies," say "yuppies." (3+ / 0-)
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              You admit that yuppies are a sub-section of boomers. So, if you must, rail against the proper group. Words have meanings. I just ask that you select the proper ones. Note: stereotyping any group usually turns out poorly.

              Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

              by HappyinNM on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:38:46 PM PDT

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              •  Well, whatever we call them, they exist (2+ / 0-)
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                And Romney is their man. I.e. people who care more about their own economic well-being than about anything or anyone else, of whatever generational, regional, ethnic--even economic--etc., cohorts.

                This obviously exists outside the boomer and even yuppie cohort, as there are people in their 20's and 70's and plumbers and construction firm owners who are like this. I have no idea what to call them.

                "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

                by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 01:59:23 PM PDT

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                •  How about rich snots? Or rich a**holes? (1+ / 0-)
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                  by HappyinNM on Sun May 20, 2012 at 06:31:29 PM PDT

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                  •  Not all of them grew up rich (3+ / 0-)
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                    Not all of them became rich. But becoming and being rich was certainly a prime goal of such people. I still don't know what to call them especially in light of the discussions here, but they do seem to be motivated more than anything by material and financial success, and perhaps professional success in the more superficial sense of the term, e.g. corner office, impressive title, etc.

                    Shallow and self-involved upwardly mobile materialists, maybe?

                    SASIUMMs? Rolls right off the tongue...

                    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

                    by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 07:07:54 PM PDT

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                •  Oh, and I forgot. (1+ / 0-)
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                  After I wrote what I did about yuppies, it dawned on me that yuppies refers to "young, upwardly-mobile." That certainly isn't what you meant. We don't have many upwardly-mobile people anymore. And boomers aren't young.

                  Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

                  by HappyinNM on Sun May 20, 2012 at 06:35:27 PM PDT

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                  •  Yeah, but a lot of people WERE upwardly mobile (1+ / 0-)
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                    or at least thought they were and still do, being in some sort of denial, and so they might naturally find someone like Romney appealing as he preaches the gospel of ME ME ME to them. These are yesterday's yuppies, still chasing their tail.

                    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

                    by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 06:59:56 PM PDT

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                    •  I remember yuppies from when I lived in CA. (1+ / 0-)
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                      They don't have yuppies around here. And the yuppies I remember are way too old to be still chasing their tails. How about "selfish snots" or "selfish a*holes?"

                      Here's the way I see it. I recently stopped watching Washington Journal (C-Span), but I had been watching every morning since the 2000 election (I recorded it). The first 45 minutes is spent with people calling in to voice their opinion on a daily topic. What I realized was that many of their older callers had no idea that the times have changed. Like Virginia Foxx, they can't understand why the young people of today aren't able to do what they did. Most of them probably have neither a pot nor a window, but they're comfortable because they worked hard and made a life for themselves. With incomes not increasing over the past 30 years, it's difficult for young people to do more than make it from paycheck to paycheck. Savings? Not possible. I'd like to call it ignorance, but it's really more like willful ignorance. As an old fart, may I offer this advice: Keep your mind busy and keep your mind open. Do what you can to change what offends you. And work like hell to defeat politicians who add to the misery in the world. Don't let the a*holes get you down.

                      Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

                      by HappyinNM on Sun May 20, 2012 at 07:35:34 PM PDT

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                      •  I used to watch WJ every day for several years (1+ / 0-)
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                        I recorded it too (living on the west coast I pretty much had no choice). I stopped watching it when I realized that between it, Keith, the News Hour, Stewart and Colbert, and the Sunday shows, I had no time for a life. I later stopped watching the News Hour and Stewart and Colbert. Now I've just cut out the rest. At a certain point you've gotten all the news and opinion and analysis you need or can digest, and it becomes counterproductive.

                        Anyway, all that's an aside to this discussion but I just thought it interesting that you also used to watch WJ every day (my favorite host btw was Susan Swain, by far, and I understand she's taking over the helm at CSPAN with Brian Lamb's retirement, but that's all neither here nor there).

                        Back to the topic, not by design, I've spent much of my life around such people. I went to school with them, have been friends with them, and have lived and worked with and around them. When you've gone to school, grown up, lived and worked where I have, it's impossible not to be around such types. So my perspective is bound to be skewed.

                        But while I don't necessarily view most of them as "bad" people, I do view most of them as sad and narrow-minded people, focused excessively if not exclusively on professional, material and social success. Theirs is Mitt Romney America, an America I've hated since I was a teen. Not that there's anything wrong with these things, but only in broader context, where good friends, being a good person, culture, smelling the roses, being aware of the wider world around you, etc., are just as important, if not more so. Whereas people like these, like Romney, just don't get it. Which is sad, and a waste.

                        I'm not hoping for a utopia, just a country with more balance, where the American dream isn't only a financial and material one, but also a spiritual, cultural, moral and social one. Repubs are absolutely not about that, and really never were. Dems used to be more about that but have become more like Repubs in this way, to a large extent to appeal to more socially liberal yuppies, I think. And it's precisely such types that Romney is going to need to win.

                        Which was my original point, that to beat Romney, we have to go after his competence, character and values, along with his policies. They're all bad, but each appeal to different groups. Some groups are probably beyond our reach, like older money country club Repubs. But others, like these newer money yuppies, might not be. And attacking these qualities of his is how to do that.

                        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

                        by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 08:57:13 PM PDT

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                        •  Obama has already started doing exactly what (1+ / 0-)
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                          you said. Those ads with the people who lost their jobs due to Bain will impact a lot of people---most of the people. Romney knows that those ads brought him down when he ran against Ted Kennedy, and his response is to call it character assassination. I assume Obama will keep it up. It's also going to take a lot of work from us. If nothing else motivates you, the thought of that creep becoming president should. As a country, we've already lost so much. We can't afford any more.

                          Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

                          by HappyinNM on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:17:27 PM PDT

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        •  Don't know any (0+ / 0-)

          The handful of yuppie Republican types I run into are all Gen X.

          Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

          by anastasia p on Sun May 20, 2012 at 04:23:10 PM PDT

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    •  Pretty ballsy comment coming from a generation (0+ / 0-)

      that doesn't bother to vote in sufficient numbers to make a difference.

      Never mind swinging votes, get young, disengaged, lazy kids out from in front of the xbox.

      Romney - his fingernails have never been anything but manicured.

      by Pescadero Bill on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:35:16 AM PDT

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    •  It's the "greatest generation" (1+ / 0-)
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      It's not the Boomers that you're describing, it's their parents.  That generation is all about it's own entitlements.  It also harbors a deeply racist streak.  The "greats" got more than their parents put into social programs, more than their children, the Boomers, will get, and more than their grandchildren will get (whose interest they routinely vote against). They are also homophobic and believe in the value of symbols ("we fought for the flag) over the rights of others.  

      •  You sure we're talking about the same thing? (1+ / 0-)
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        The "Greatest Generation" grew up and lived through the Great Depression and WWII, which means they lived through and knew hard times before the post-war prosperity kicked in. Boomers were born starting in 1946 I believe, and generally knew better times than their parents (with obvious exceptions such as Vietnam), with economic hard times not coming till the 70's.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 01:37:32 PM PDT

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    •  I don't think so (4+ / 0-)

      Romney is only a few years older than me.

      He's the kid you hated in hs. The one with the rich parents, who always flaunted his vacations to Florida in your face. The one who went to Paris on spring break. The one who could go to any college he wanted, regardless of grades ( and remember, getting into college was a lot harder in the 60s, with not nearly as much aids/loans). The one who didn't have to worry about what his draft number was, no way was HE going into the army. He's the one who got the brand new sports car for graduation.

      And he hasn't made any friends for himself since then. Didn't go into a profession where he helped people. Didn't do anything that wasn't going to benefit him in some way. Ever.

      If he gets boomer votes, it's from the boomers who are just like him.

      The rest of us are trying to hang onto our jobs and whatever health insurance goes  with them until we can get on Medicare. Not that we'll ever be able to really retire...

      •  I went to school with such kids (1+ / 0-)
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        I was sort of like Obama in this respect, going to a school otherwise way out of my parents' price range because each year they took in some lower income kids whom they felt would perform well (which I generally did, although in my case it was grade school and junior HS, not HS). In any case, many of my classmates were upper middle class, not quite in Romney territory but certainly able (and more than eager) to flaunt their parents' wealth, e.g. the luxury cars they owned, fancy vacations they took, expensive clothes and shoes they wore, etc.

        I've lost touch with my classmates since then, so I have no way of knowing what they went into. I'm guessing that most ended up doing what you would expect them to do, e.g. successful and well-off lawyers, doctors, corporate execs, etc. But my point is that I know the type, and can see how and why they'd take such paths. They were groomed for it, intentionally and not. Not that any of these professional paths are necessarily bad, of course. But there are socially beneficial ways you can take them, and socially unbeneficial ways. A lot of people from such backgrounds, I think, take the latter path. And Romney is their man.

        The validation if not glorification of selfishness is a serious flaw in our society, that's always been around to some extent, but which the conservative era made the norm, and really ideal. Romney is its personification. That has to be stopped.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 01:47:04 PM PDT

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    •  I think it's even broader than that: (2+ / 0-)
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      A majority of boomers are and always were conservative.

      We like to look back and imagine that all the baby boomers were out protesting the war or getting high at Woodstock, but the history shows otherwise.  Each of our own personal experiences is nothing compared to history--- the sum total of millions of personal experiences.

      Think of all the kids who gleefully spat on integrating classmates, or joined pro-war protests (these were very common, yes).  For every feminist burning her bra, there were a thousand wholesome boomers burning their Beatles albums after Lennon said they were bigger than Jesus.

      The attention focused on the college kids (who were, as now, more liberal though nowhere near completely so), but most boomers didn't go to college, and didn't go anywhere near a protest.  

      Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

      by nominalize on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:56:09 PM PDT

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    •  Absolutely NOT a generational thing (1+ / 0-)
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      but a class thing. I don't know a single person of my generation — I'm a baby boomer — who feels that way. Not one. Of course I tend to know all the old hippies who belong to the Green Party even though I am not one of those.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

      by anastasia p on Sun May 20, 2012 at 04:21:35 PM PDT

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      •  We know different kinds of people (1+ / 0-)
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        I grew up in NYC and live in Seattle, and went to an Ivy League school, so I'm biased I guess. Plenty of these types in these places, for obvious reasons: high cost and standard of living and high-paying jobs, which such types gravitate towards. Not everyone who lives, works and went to school in such places is like this, of course, but they're disproportionately represented in them.

        I find it hard to believe, though, that you've never met such people.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Sun May 20, 2012 at 06:26:53 PM PDT

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  •  Agreed BBB (9+ / 0-)

    The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

    by a2nite on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:20:44 AM PDT

  •  Mitt Romney is a nice guy (12+ / 0-)

    to a few close friends and a totally out of touch nimrod asshole to most everyone else. America is going love him like a Bush.

  •  You're Not supposed to Do That (18+ / 0-)

    Mitt Has a SAD when You look at him that Close Up.

    Mtt Has a Double SAD when You write Stuff Down on
    Evil, Socialist Blogs where Other PROLES can Read It.

    NO 7-11 Cookie For You.

    On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

    by Brian76239 on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:21:20 AM PDT

  •  H/T to Gertrude Stein (10+ / 0-)

    "There is no 'there' there." Willard is nothing more than an empty suit.

  •  Well written. Publish it somewhere (28+ / 0-)

    It really will be interesting over the next few months to see if anyone can come up with stories that attest to Romney as someone who might have that willingness to stand up that characterizes political courage.  

    I doubt there are very many out there.  

    That's why the Cranbrook Haricut continues to stick in my mind.  It shows a kind of leadership that it takes to get rich by manipulating others and profiting in the bargain.  That is exactly the kind of human being caused the Wall Street crisis.

    It is very interesting that this election cycle produced a GOP candidate that is exactly what Wall Street wanted.  

    A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for a hostile takeover of the White House by Wall Street's worst.  

    Republicans have been fond of saying "it's about character."
    It surely is.

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:22:12 AM PDT

  •  The last time we elected a child of privilege (17+ / 0-)

    It didn't turn out so well.

    The invasion of Iraq was a war crime, a crime against humanity, and a crime against civilization. Prosecute the crime.

    by Positronicus on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:24:53 AM PDT

  •  I reached this point of revulsion (21+ / 0-)

    with the previous administration's president. I still get physically ill at the sight or sound of that person. I'm not there yet with Romney, but he's certainly all you say he is. How could any rational person look at him and see anything else.  And yet I work with people who find him 'inspiring'.

    utahgirl

  •  I think he has Aspergers Syndrome (1+ / 0-)
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    Or as Cartman says, Assburgers!

    It's just like he doesn't have emotions and can't connect with people who do.

    I ask him if he was warm enough? "Warm," he growled, "I haven't been warm since Bastogne."

    by Unrepentant Liberal on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:27:23 AM PDT

  •  Big, Bad Mitt (20+ / 0-)

    I had previously posted this story in response to another Diarist. It seems appropriate.

    Big, brave Mitt led his band of school bullies to gang up on the young kid in school. They dragged him down, assaulted him, cut his hair,while he cried for help and tears were were in his eyes! Big, brave Mitt! Big, brave Mitt can't remember, but, he's sorry, if he hurt anybody.

    When big, brave Mitt had a chance to exhibit his bravery in the United States armed services, on the battlefields of Vietnam, Mitt took a deferment. Big, brave Mitt!

    Big, bad Mitt brought his billions from Bain Capital to buy businesses that employed people.  After Mitt exacted his treatment, he took the companies pensions and left the government Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp. to pay the pensioners and Mitt and his friends took their profits and ran away.  Big, BAd Mitt!

    When a United States Army soldier asked about the rights of gay soldiers serving in uniform under a Republican administration, he was loudly booed by the Republican crowd. Mitt was silent. Big, bad Mitt!

    When the Christian, right wing preacher demanded thjat Richard Grenell resign from the Romney campaign because he was gay. Grenell resigned. Mitt was silent. Big, bad Mitt!

    Big, bad Mitt! A sorry story. This is not the story of a leader; it is the story of big, bad Mitt - a bully!

    Impeach Grover Norquist! Defeat a Republican!

    by NM Ray on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:27:35 AM PDT

  •  I think he's the worst politician I've seen.. (30+ / 0-)

    in my lifetime.

    A cowardly, shameless opportunist. A bully in high school who, years later, laughs while apologizing about it after claiming not to remember it. A rich man who has ZERO empathy with those less fortunate than himself.

    No, this Democrat does NOT like his character.

  •  Authoritarian artistocrat (28+ / 0-)

    Favors the strong and has sheer contempt for the weak. He's an aristocrat utterly lacking the noblesse oblige gene.

    We have seen this movie before, with another sh*tty golden boy, George W. Bush. This new one is scarier because he is arguably more competent.

    Aristocratic authoritarianism is the exact opposite of the American ideals of civil liberty and universal opportunity.

    Keep WA-Gov Blue -- Help Jay Inslee beat Rob McKenna. Go Inslee!

    by Em on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:28:34 AM PDT

  •  Finally someone has put it in excellent terms. (11+ / 0-)

    Romney is all that you say and more. He is unfit to have to be entrusted with the power that influences the lives of so many real humans both in US and around the world. He is a carrier of the GOP/TPARTY agends to hollow out the middle class in order to weaken democracy in AMERICA, to enrich the few with a rigged system of taxation and to establish a 1 Party rule across the nation. And Romney is not the worst of them. Look at the GOP govs: Super Thief in chief-Scott in FL, TAXATION WITHOut REPRESENTATION-Snyder in MI, Kochs' boy toy Walker in WI and of course the creme de la creme AZ's Jan Brewer- the murderer of innocents in order to give TP $$ to her big donors. and of course, there is RICK Perry who gave his donors/friends well paying GOVT jobs on the STATE payroll to the tune of $17 mn.

    An EGG is not a person, A corporation is not a person!

    by CarmanK on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:31:16 AM PDT

  •  So when does (11+ / 0-)

    anybody ask him about the position of the Mormon Church on African Americans, and whether he ever said ANYTHING about it?

    The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

    by fladem on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:31:30 AM PDT

  •  just a prank... (19+ / 0-)

    Romney's behavior in prep school is not the least unusual.  the super priviledged pick on the less priviledged all the time.

    The behavior that they learn in prep school, which is abetted by the schools and their faculty, teaches them how to behave as masters of the universe when they graduate.  Does anyone think that Romney's uncaring behavior, as evidenced by Bain, and all the numerous "gaffes" of his presidential campaign (which are in actuality simply little glimpses of his true soul) arose de novo?

    Like the song in South Pacific- "You have to be taught to hate."  In the same way, you have to be taught to be totally unconcerned with your fellow man and completely assured of your superiority and your right to be special.

    Does he remember the incident- of course.  You will note that he refers to it a a prank- not shameful behavior which he now regrets.  He doesn't regret it, because he doesn't think it is wrong for the powerful to abuse the weak.

    As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

    by BPARTR on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:31:56 AM PDT

  •  The BBC recently made a documentary (12+ / 0-)

    on Romney.  It's up on YouTube here:

    It's an hour long - called "This World: The Mormon Candidate".  Why haven't there been any American news documentaries about him?

  •  Thanks for putting into... (10+ / 0-)

    ...words exactly how I feel about Romney. The guy is just a creepy coward. No wonder the other Republicans running in '08 couldn't stand the guy.

    York, PA is where the USA began - and where we will start to take it foward

    by joeotter on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:35:32 AM PDT

  •  Bravo! (12+ / 0-)

    This is exactly how I feel about the High Lord Mittness! He's a buffoon, a fake person to the core.

    Both nasty and weird. Political service? Absolutely not!

    I have never seen someone with so little integrity and I lived through Watergate with Nixon. He lies so poorly but so effortlessly as if he needs to, he sickens me.

    We must defeat him resoundingly for policy and personal reasons. I want him to be an obscure person never ever getting near the levers of political power again.

    In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

    by vcmvo2 on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:37:08 AM PDT

  •  I don't know tons about Warren Buffet (9+ / 0-)

    Like Romney, he's been a big, successful investor. But he strikes me as considerably different in character. Hopefully, someone will make a comparison. I doubt it would flatter Romney.

    •  He is completely different....Buffett really (0+ / 0-)

      did pull himself up by the bootstraps.  He still lives fairly modestly....favorite restaurant is an Italian steakhouse where the steak comes with a side of spaghetti.    I'm sure he can be ruthless in business but as a billionaire, he's about as good as they come.

      "Forever is composed of nows." Emily Dickinson

      by Leftovers on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:12:28 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  What you said! (18+ / 0-)
    No, Mitt Romney is not a patriot. No, Mitt Romney is not a great guy. No, Mitt Romney isn't a wonderful guy in private. Mitt Romney is an self-indulgent, egomaniacal, sociopathic coward.
    Can I get an Amen?

    Down with False Equivalence! Truth over Balance!! Real Reporting, Please!!!

    by LarisaW on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:43:33 AM PDT

  •  I finally figured out that I just didn't like him (7+ / 0-)

    about 6 months ago. Before that he was just a politician I would never vote for.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:44:41 AM PDT

  •  I just don't hate Romney like I hated Bush (10+ / 0-)

    I think the difference is that Romney isn't willfully ignorant; he's willfully malevolent.  Bush always seemed like you could persuade him back around to reason if only you could explain things to him properly -- it was frustrating that he never got it.  Romney is pretty straightforward in that he gets it, he knows exactly what he'd do in office and what the consequences of those policies would be, but he'll do it anyway because he's evil.

    It was the ambiguity around whether Bush was stupid or evil which bothered me the most.  There is no such ambiguity when it comes to Mitt Romney.

  •  He may be the coward (8+ / 0-)

    but I'm scared to death of him.

    Voting Republican is a luxury that very few Americans can afford.

    by Says Who on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:46:02 AM PDT

  •  Mittens is the most inauthentic politician (9+ / 0-)

    I've ever seen.  And that is saying something.
    But as far as having sheer hatred towards him?
    He ranks far, far below George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and many more members of his administration of war criminals.

    The problem for the Republicans is that they can't get scientists to figure out how to get women to give birth to more old white guys.

    by jazzmaniac on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:46:46 AM PDT

  •  Just ask Romney to confess that he was still CEO (7+ / 0-)

    of Bain until August 2001.

    Then we can get to the real reasons why he and his camp are trying so hard to bury the issues of 2000 & 2001.


    PLEASE Stop Mitt (the Pitts) Romney from stealing the Presidential Election!

    by laserhaas on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:47:28 AM PDT

  •  His arrogance is appalling. (15+ / 0-)

    That's what I can't stand about him. He feels entitled to everything, including the presidency. What compelling reason does he have to be POTUS besides his wealth? That's what he's selling himself on. I can run the country because I'm rich. Very, very rich.

    And then calling it "envy" when people believe he should pay more taxes.

    Most presidential candidates have a story to tell about themselves that make Americans relate. There's nothing like that with Romney. A man born into privilege who wouldn't know what an honest day's work looked like if it bit him on his ass.

    We know Dubya was the same, a privileged spoiled frat boy. But he at least pretended to be a regular guy. Romney can't even do that. He has nothing. There's nothing to him except his wealth. That's his only compelling story.

    P.S. I am not a crackpot.

    by BoiseBlue on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:48:00 AM PDT

  •  The Republicans Really Want Romney???? (6+ / 0-)

    I've asked this in previous threads:  

    Does the Republican party really believe that Mitt is the best they have to offer?

    He's either the malleable, 'just sign the bill' person that Grover Norquist says the country needs,  or the Repubs are willing to give up 2012-2016 to run a really sinister candidate four years from now.

    "Our greatest enemy brought to justice by our greatest heroes." Osama bin Laden, and Seal Team 6; credit is given where credit is due. (Quote from an ad to re-elect President Obama.)

    by Maverick80229 on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:48:31 AM PDT

  •  I don't like him. (14+ / 0-)

    I don't agree with anything he says, I think he's a complete narcissist and a poser. His policies are adjusted to a scale that involve only his religion and his own best interests.  He's secretive and fake.j Lacking military experience, he's a hawk; happy to get other people's kids killed but not his own (no one in his entire family served yet he is absolutely bullish on Iran, for instance).  He doesn't think women deserve equality (he can't given his belief).  He just sucks.

    I'd rather get a root canal that vote for him.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:50:33 AM PDT

  •  Somehow (1+ / 0-)
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    Only Needs a Beat

    Ive ended up on Romneys mailing list.

    My wife had received a few pieces, but this is the first for me. It was large, and marked indicating photo inside.

    I'm going to have to figure out the best way to share this photo. I wonder how it would look if I just took a photo of it

  •  It's not impolite to call Mitt "weird" (2+ / 0-)
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    Only Needs a Beat, JeffW

    Any more than to call George Bush a "Booger eating moron".

    H/T to  joe wobblie.

    What about my Daughter's future?

    by koNko on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:59:57 AM PDT

  •  Even Mitt's virtues are rotten (10+ / 0-)

    Romney has wasted a lot of time boasting about how he shut down his money laundering business in order to ship everyone down to NYC to look for his partner's missing daughter.  As it turned out the girl was holed up at her boy friend's parents house.   So what does this tells America about Mitt?  One, he's an emotionally erratic manager who'll go off half-cocked.   Think if he shut down the US Government to go off on a Don Quixote adventure.  Two, he might have asked the girl's father about her friends and looked into them before declaring a 'red alert'.  The whole incident proves that Romney is emotionally unstable.  A conclusion that is reinforced by his constant lying.  

    •  Exactly (2+ / 0-)
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      jiffykeen, laserhaas

      why shut down the company, unless it's a company of detectives? Hire a damn detective and let everybody else work.

      Let the father off, of course, and maybe a couple others if they could be helpful, but not the whole company.

      Btw, did they get paid while the company was shut down, or did he make the hourly people just go home with no pay?

    •  I've wondered about that story (2+ / 0-)
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      laserhaas, Minnesota Deb

      It is made to be an example of his compassion, but it sounds like a teenager who didn't come home - not sure she needed or wanted to be rescued. And you wonder, how did shutting down the business help?

  •  Excellent. Just one correction. (8+ / 0-)

    Rick Perry can afford $10,000.

    The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

    by Upper West on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:00:27 AM PDT

  •  Cramer: Romney is a job destroyer not a creator’ (17+ / 0-)

    http://www.rawstory.com/...

    CNBC personality Jim Cramer provided an opinion Sunday morning that won’t be endorsed by Republican presumptive presidential nominee Mitt Romney, calling his time at Bain Capital as one more about firing than hiring people.

    Appearing on Meet The Press in the roundtable segment, the Mad Money host differed with David Gregory’s perspective that Romney had a “real area of strength” over President Barack Obama on the economy. Gregory based his view on a recent ad from the Romney campaign that mentioned how the former Massachusetts governor would approve of the controversial Keystone pipeline if he was president.

    “Romney is known as a job destoryer, not a creator,” Cramer said. “I just don’t think that this will stick, I think Bain sticks. I think the idea that you bring in Bain, which is what happened, in the 80′s. They fire people and that’s how they get prosperity for the rich.”

  •  Well that was over the top and counterproductive. (0+ / 0-)
    Mitt Romney is an self-indulgent, egomaniacal, sociopathic coward.Consider his callous mistreatment of his own household pets.
    .  And FORGOT ABOUT THE DOG!  People don't care or think its as funny as Chevy Chase and Family Vacation.
    •  Forget about the dog and the bullying (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      eXtina, tb mare, sagesource

      and the secret ceremonies and magic underwear of the Masons/Mormons Cult. Warren Jeffs says it's no worse than the pedophilia condoned by the Super Mysterious Catholic Cult and I concur.  Just don't drink any coffee or tea or smoke a cig or take a swig and the world will be fine.

      •  Catholics match up with Mormons on weird getups. (0+ / 0-)

        You have seen the Pope and boy's wild and crazy outfits right?  At least Mormons wear their getups under their street clothes.

        I suspect Romney is about as Mormon as Bush was Methodist, flags of convenience.

        Trying to make a bland, amiable character like Romney out as a "sociopathic dog torturer" only devalues the real issues with Romney's policies where are the real threats to US.  Diarist needs to go back and re-read "The Boy Who Cried Irish Setter".

    •  The last person I'd expect such a statement... (5+ / 0-)

      ...from would be JIM CRAMER (who's no liberal by any stretch).

      "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandhi

      by alaprst on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:40:39 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  One Of The Clearest Advantages Obama Has (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Only Needs a Beat, JeffW, mmacdDE, Matt Z

    is that he is more likeable than Romney. Thankful for that that advantage, but personally I always vote the policy and not the person. You might be overplaying the hand and piling on a bit here.

  •  Inert and Mr. Vanilla he ain't (7+ / 0-)

    Well said Brooklynbadboy! Back in 2008 when I first was exposed to Mitt I thought that he wasn't so terrible. A bit odd but basically competent. Boy has my opinion of this a**hole changed. Every time I see his face on TV I feel the rage and I'm guessing there're millions of Americans who feel the same way. They hate this guy with a passion. If Mitt should somehow win in November he will go down as the most hated president in the history of the republic.

    Can you imagine what it would be like if Mitt wins a squeaker based upon questionable vote counting in Florida and Ohio and voter suppression in the rest of the swing states? Not a pretty picture!    

  •  Romney's Success (13+ / 0-)

    Romney has lived a charmed life of privilege. He hasn't lived a single day where he has done without or where he has struggled to make ends meet or where he simply had to make do. Throughout his privileged life there is not one example of leadership. He has had every possible advantage in life, and what has he done with this advantage?

    He managed to run off to France to dodge a war that he supported, allowing others to serve and to sacrifice instead. He avoided paying his fair share of taxes, hiding money off-shore and in Swiss bank accounts. He got elected governor on promises he never intended to keep. He ran for a senate seat denying the platform of the republican party and proclaiming to be a progressive. He managed to prey on small businesses, "allocating" their funds for himself and his investor friends while he casually fired worki­ng class people who were simply seeking their share of the American Dream for themselves and their children.

    By no measure is this a life of success.

  •  If you are raised 'Lying for the Lord' (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Laconic Lib

    the rest comes easy.

  •  I am with you too, BBB, but... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    howabout

    The only comment I would add is the reason why he so sociopathically preys upon the weak and powerless: A complete, total lack of empathy for those not exactly like him. A sociopath in other words; added to that a fortunate sociopath in that he never really had anything bad happen to him. It doesn't seem like he ever experienced real loss, real hardship, or real struggle. I remember I put-down I read a long while back about a callow youth "How can he relate to this unfortunate individual when the only tragedy he has ever had in his life was probably a high school heartbreak". Well I submit, that this animatronic robot never even had that. And so there is no way, short of a brain transplant that Mitt Romney can ever develop anything resembling real empathy under any circumstances.
        So yes, if I had to chose the politician I most despise, the Mittster would be at the top of the list. I could never see myself voting for him no matter how conservative I was. In fact, if I was a conservative, I think I would sit this round out, and send some $$ to frothy-boy Rick Santorum in hopes he can get his asshole streak under control for a viable run in 2016

    An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head. -- Eric Hoffer

    by MichiganChet on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:27:58 AM PDT

  •  he was born w/ a silver spoon in his mouth (7+ / 0-)

    that is now a silver shovel...ask mitt: "tell us about one of your friends who is NOT a millionaire" and watch his face

    •  Most people with money (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      laserhaas

      Tend to have friends with money. In some ways, it's protection against being asked for loans all the time, or feeling like you can't ask them to go certain places because they can't afford it.

      It's who those friends with money are. Are they the people with money who try to make the world a better place? Or are they the people with money who just want more money? And do they use even some of their money to make the world better?

      You often can judge people by their friends. And by what they think is important.

      What's important to Romney is Romney. Nothing else.

      •  i don't begrudge him his rich cronies (3+ / 0-)
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        laserhaas, sagesource, Laconic Lib

        my point is that rmoney can't even fake it, unlike bush or even mccain...he is so much like richie rich in the flesh all growed up, it's ridiculous...he is so far removed from the "normal human experience", that it renders him completely incapable of even playing the role of "man of the people"

        I love Burt Bacharach!

        by memofromturner on Sun May 20, 2012 at 05:18:00 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Romney is a Bully (0+ / 0-)

    Being a bully means he is also a coward. I believe he is also very insecure, but he comes across as a heartless, soulless, atom atom, who nobody actually likes.

  •  thank you (5+ / 0-)
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    eXtina, laserhaas, Eric Nelson, tb mare, Matt Z

    I've been trying to figure Romney out and this diary helps. For many money is power--they use money to defend against powerlessness. For Romeny money is fear--he uses it to hide behind and because his world is fear he can never have enough money. Normally, one would suppose that the amount of money he has would give him the feeling that he could say, be, or do anything but he has displayed opposite impulses. Money has simply revealed his lack of principles and his fear. Wealth is indeed both his mirror and our window onto a truly frightening human being.

  •  I watched a brief segment... (6+ / 0-)

    ...on MSNBC's "Weekends with Alex Witt" which featured a discussion between a Romney aide and Karen Finney, a Democratic consultant. The Romney aide played the role of a one-trick pony whose only tactic was to take a Romney weakness and project it on Obama with snide remarks like "people don't like the negative campaign Obama is running." Sorry, Mr. Romney aide, it is your candidate who is making private business success (Bain Capital) a prime presidential qualification. Instead of trying to act like a bunch of babies every time you are attacked on your candidate's qualifications and actions, you'd do well to pressure your candidate to disclose far more tax records than he's been willing to disclose (at least he should go as far back as the president's earliest disclosed return of 2000).

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandhi

    by alaprst on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:34:19 AM PDT

  •  Check and mate (2+ / 0-)
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    tb mare, Eric Nelson

    Good work BBB. Great points.

  •  Being a coward (0+ / 0-)

    What makes a person a coward?  I think it depends on what each person defines that word as being.  I am sure that republicans could tag most democrats as cowards for not doing "this or that".  Romney a coward?  Well, that depends on what you think a coward is, actually.  I'm a decorated vet and I define it in far different terms than a politico defines it.  Coward is probably one of the most degrading labels someone can put on another person.  I don't like the use of the word just because of political leanings or because of political philosophies or because one candidate didn't do what an opposition party thinks he/she should do.  

    We need to use that word sparingly, in my beliefs.

  •  Dems need to define Romney (4+ / 0-)
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    laserhaas, Eric Nelson, a2nite, tb mare

    he has certainly provided enough material. He's saying Dems are trying to 'attack his character', pretending to take the high road, well character matters for the leader of the free world.

    "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

    by eXtina on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:47:26 AM PDT

  •  Picking on John Lauber was all it took for me to.. (7+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    eXtina, a2nite, tb mare, mmacdDE, Em, Matt Z, Laconic Lib

    ..see what Romney is through & through. I would say deep down, but nothing about Romney qualifies as deep imo. This attack is exactly the kind of leader stooge Romney would make and that will never change. It's who he is imo, cloisterd, protected and weird.
     He's been  spoiled (page 4) and hand held every step of the way. As for business moxy - none whatsoever

    There was no financial or professional risk taken by Romney at Bain Capital. No brave young entrepreneur

    Starting almost immediately, Bain proposed, Romney would become the head of a new company to be called Bain Capital. With seed money from Bill Bain and other partners at the consulting firm, Bain Capital would raise tens of millions of dollars, invest in start-ups and troubled businesses, apply Bain’s brand of management advice, and then resell the revitalized companies or sell their shares to the public at a profit. It sounded exciting, daring, new. It would be Romney’s first chance to run his own firm and, potentially, to make a killing. It was an offer few young men in a hurry could refuse.
    Sounds like a safe position which most entrepreneurs would jump at:
    Yet Romney stunned his boss by doing just that. He explained to Bain that he didn’t want to risk his position, earnings, and reputation on an experiment. He found the offer appealing but didn’t want to make the decision in a “light or flippant manner.” So Bain sweetened the pot. He guaranteed that if the experiment failed Romney would get his old job and salary back, plus any raises he would have earned during his absence. Still, Romney worried about the impact on his reputation if he proved unable to do the job. Again the pot was sweetened. Bain promised that, if necessary, he would craft a cover story saying that Romney’s return to Bain & Company was needed due to his value as a consultant. “So,” Bain explained, “there was no professional or financial risk.” This time Romney said yes. - emphasis added
    Always timid about exposing himself, but right there if he has a pack of tough guys to hide behind.

    Romney is the perfect cliché movie character bully: Getting a group of bullies to hide behind and picking on a smaller kid, holding him down and shearing his hair off, and laughing then lying about it - coward in my book.

  •  I think this article hits a different angle well (2+ / 0-)
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Fineman argues that Romney's campaign will run the first anti-personality campaign since maybe Eisenhower.  

    The know they have nothing to work with.

    Romney is an organization man, not a leader.  He rises to the top of a status quo organization and manages it as it carries out its agenda.  

    It's going to be hard to make much stick to him, negative or positive.  

    •  He's a tool of evil... (2+ / 0-)
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      ... but Americans would have to grok class politics to understand that a whole Republican organization, a class based organization, is running a passive captive executive to support its agenda.

      So call him a "coward" might be a good way of pointing out his passivity in relationship to the ownership class and the Republican party.

      The election will be about a guy with personality who we know (Obama) versus a vague amorphous older whiter and more upper class conglomeration fronted by an empty suit.

      That's not much to vote for unless you really don't like Obama.  

      But there is a certain sense in which the Romney campaign approach is the direction we'd like to see American politics go on - toward a real argument about class and the parties that should represent different class interests.  Paradoxically, the nothingness of Romney highlights his status as a representative of an economic class and its interests.  

      To bad the Democrats don't have the courage to do the same thing.  But they also don't have to because they have a charismatic human being at the top of the ticket.  That is a plus for winning, but also obscures what the real political discussion should be about, namely class, and economic and political equality.

  •  I draw the line around mormonism. If you want to (2+ / 0-)
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    laserhaas, Jon Says

    go after the hierarchy of the church thats fair game. I've worked with mormons and at least the ones  I know are honest and trusthworthy. Dumping on someones religion is generally not a good idea.

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

    by CTMET on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:53:46 AM PDT

    •  I am torn there too - CTMET. Pointing out the (0+ / 0-)

      issues of Mormonism itself is a religious debate -

      not something we Progressive's should do in an election.

      If he makes Mormonism an issue by a lapse linguae, that is anothe story.

      G-d forbid he should get in - then anything he does to favor the Mormon church or peoples is grounds for impeachment (must separate church & state)

      There's much dirt to argue about on various Mormon issues; but the religion itself should be verboten.

      That being said, this thing about Lying as a permissible trait in the Mormon religion is an issue - the being trained to LIE part.


      PLEASE Stop Mitt (the Pitts) Romney from stealing the Presidential Election!

      by laserhaas on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:09:22 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Religion should not always be off-limits (4+ / 0-)

      If a candidate claims to be guided by his religion in making policy then the tenets of the religion automatically become fair play.  If any politician wants to impose divine law on the nation whether in matters of sexual or commercial behavior then it would be negligent to not make a political issue of religion.

    •  LDS political role and Mitt economic involvement (3+ / 0-)

      LDS bankrolled anti-marriage-equality Prop 8 in CA, and Mitt bankrolls the LDS. For example.

      Ergo, it IS political, and not the appropriately private matter of religious opinion.

      Keep WA-Gov Blue -- Help Jay Inslee beat Rob McKenna. Go Inslee!

      by Em on Sun May 20, 2012 at 02:28:03 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I think I would just make the distinction between (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
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        the church hierarchy and the religion itself. Same as for the Catholic Church and lots of others.

        The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

        by CTMET on Sun May 20, 2012 at 02:35:30 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  ... and Mitts interactions with the hierarchy (3+ / 0-)
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        Fixed Point Theorem, Em, Laconic Lib

        therefore are fair game.

        The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

        by CTMET on Sun May 20, 2012 at 02:36:14 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  "Day Of Shame" quote needs to be used over and... (2+ / 0-)
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    over. This guy has so many untenable positions, any debate question should be prefaced by his first/second points of view.

  •  Tell us what you really think. (0+ / 0-)
    Mitt Romney is an self-indulgent, egomaniacal, sociopathic coward.
    Don't people answering that description usually wind up in jail?

    I paid for MY silver spoon.

    by SpamNunn on Sun May 20, 2012 at 11:59:56 AM PDT

  •  Chicken Mitt (4+ / 0-)
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    is afraid of Rachel Maddow

  •  Willard got 5 to jump 1, didn't do it himself? (0+ / 0-)

    it was only one guy, why didn't he have to balls to go after him by himself?

    80 % of success is showing up

    Corporate is not the solution to our problem

    Corporate is the problem

    by Churchill on Sun May 20, 2012 at 12:43:51 PM PDT

  •  Why are we still calling him "Mitt"? (0+ / 0-)
  •  indeed (0+ / 0-)

    I made that same point to ed shultz on his blog the other day, after he let Armstrong Williams call him a "man of character" several times.

    "Civility" is gonna be our undoing in this country

  •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

    I agree 100%. Mitt is a complete and total asshole - a miserable excuse for a human being.

    Progress 365 not just a slogan a goal - 300 progressive seats in the House and 65 progressive seats in the Senate.

    by jusjtim35 on Sun May 20, 2012 at 01:52:00 PM PDT

  •  hot damn this is a fine rant (0+ / 0-)

    and all true...

    "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
    DEMAND CREATES JOBS

    by TrueBlueMajority on Sun May 20, 2012 at 01:59:57 PM PDT

  •  He won't confront the strong and forces himself on (1+ / 0-)
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    the weak"

    Perfectly stated.

    What I find odd about Romney is his lack of passion for anything (Well, except $).

    WHY does he want so badly to become our president?

    Is it simply just a position he thinks he deserves?

    Is it simply a 'notch' on his belt of what he considers success'?

    I mean, he's never, ever stated what drives him or gives him motivation.

    To me, he's like an illusion. Not real.  He has no real ideas of his own thinking.

    Even GWBush had a reason for wanting to be president (and not just to have time to cut brush) I think he wanted to prove to his own father he could be successful.

    What drives Mitt?

    YES WE DID! November 4th, 2008

    by Esjaydee on Sun May 20, 2012 at 02:04:26 PM PDT

    •  Power (0+ / 0-)

      POTUS is still the most powerful role on earth.

      Especially for an authoritarian like Mitt who loves everything moneyed and powerful and disdains anything poor and weak, that's a mighty siren song indeed.

      Keep WA-Gov Blue -- Help Jay Inslee beat Rob McKenna. Go Inslee!

      by Em on Sun May 20, 2012 at 02:25:32 PM PDT

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  •  Triangulation is what I call it. (1+ / 0-)
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    Corporations are designed for it.  All actions are carried out by dispensable intermediaries, who carry out the dirty work or take the risks, so the top dog can remain inviolate to "fight" another day.
    However, the ideal top dog does not direct the taking of known risks; does not consider the troops to be fungible.  Rummy did that and Willard does it, too.  Everyone's dispensable and disposable.

    Of course, deception is Satan's core characteristic. Deception of Adam and Eve for the purpose of stealing them from their Creator.

    There is something really sick about "creative destruction" over and above providing a rationale to destroy. Wanton destruction is pure evil.

    People to Wall Street: "LET OUR MONEY GO"

    by hannah on Sun May 20, 2012 at 02:19:20 PM PDT

  •  i, personally, find his religion to be a cult and (3+ / 0-)

    question why any one would vote for him based on that one aspect of his life alone. Just as i wouldn't (and don't) take scientologist seriously, i don't take mormons seriously either. i know we are supposed to be "open-minded" about religions and that we don't vote for people based on the religion they practice. But this guy believes (like scientologist do) that they have a special planet that they will go to after death. This guy wears special underwear to protect him from evil whatevers and up until the late 70's (for christsakes, Mitts was an adult by this time) this guy (or his peeps) believed that black people had the curse of cain. They are secretive, misogynist, and just plain weird.

    Look, I don't like religion to begin with. Catholicism, Protestants, Muslims, Judaism, etc. all have their wired aspects and strange beliefs, much of which i find either offensive to common sense or just plain dumb. But because the majority of the world's population buys into these practices or faiths, I won't make it an issue to how they are as people. I will however question the more obscure or cultish ones like the church of latter day saints and scientology and i question the sanity of their followers. i think it says a lot about the type of person you are when you choose a religion that deviates from the norm. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be different from others. But special or magic underwear, special planets? come on people! this stuff is science fiction, not religion. and that alone should be enough to disbar any person from running for President of the US. This is crazy stuff to believe. Seriously....I'd rather he didn't believe anything at all! and, btw, he's a bad mormon as he lies like a drug addict looking for his next fix. why?

    Earth: Mostly harmless ~ The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (revised entry)

    by yawnimawke on Sun May 20, 2012 at 02:24:50 PM PDT

  •  He protested in favor of the draft (2+ / 0-)
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    and then dodged it.

    He titled his autobiography "No apologies".

    He thinks assault with a deadly weapon is a "prank" (but only when he does it).

    He abused his dog.

    He is a bad human being.

  •  "53 Evil Quotes by Romney" should be ready.... (1+ / 0-)
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    For a video clip by now.  I think that video against Limbaugh, showing him slurring Ms. Fluke 53 times, was powerful and effective.  Do we have enough now to give Mitt his comeuppance?  Not the ones showing him flipping and flopping, but the ones showing him to be a nasty elitist.
    For example (paraphrasing from memory):

    "Frankly, I like to fire people."
    "Spent a lot on the rain gear, I see."

    Just a thought.

    •  Here are a few (0+ / 0-)
      "I'd be embarrassed if I didn't ask for federal dollars every chance I had." -Willard Mitt Romney, July 2006

      "If General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the
      American automotive industry goodbye. It won't go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed."
      –Willard Mitt Romney, November 2008

      "I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." -Willard Mitt Romney, June 2011

      "Corporations are people my friend!" -Willard Mitt Romney, August 2011

      "As to what to do for the housing industry specifically - and are there things that you can do to encourage housing?
      One is, don't try and stop the foreclosure process. Let it run its course and hit the bottom, allow investors to buy up
      homes, put renters in them, fix the homes up, and let it turn around and come back up." -Willard Mitt Romney, October 2011

      "I'm running for office for Pete's sake, we can't have illegals." -Willard Mitt Romney, October 2011

      "This is a completely airtight kennel, mounted on the top of our car. He climbed up there regularly,
      enjoyed himself…." -Willard Mitt Romney, December 2011 (defending strapping his dog, Seamus, on top of his car for a
      12 hour drive)

      "I'll tell you what, ten-thousand bucks? $10,000 bet?" -Willard Mitt Romney, December 2011

      "....but someone who has lived in the real streets of America..." -Willard Mitt Romney, January 2012

      "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me." -Willard Mitt Romney, January 2012

      "Never get involved in politics if you have to win an election to pay a mortgage." -Willard Mitt Romney, January 2012

      "Then, I get speakers fees from time to time, but not very much." -Willard Mitt Romney January 2012
      (disclosure, WMR earned $374,327.62 in speaking fees in one year)

      "There were a couple of times I wondered whether I was going to get a pink slip." – Willard Mitt Romney, January 2012

      "I didn't inherit." -Willard Mitt Romney, January 2012

      "The banks are scared to death, of course, because they think they're going to go out of business.
      They're afraid that if they write all these loans off, they're going to go broke. And so they're feeling the same thing
      you're feeling." -Willard Mitt Romney, January 2012

      "Ha. Ha. You know, I wish I could claim I'm Hispanic. That would help me in the Latino community here is Florida and
      around the country." -Willard Mitt Romney, January 2012

      "I'm not concerned about the very poor… we will hear from the Democrat party the plight of the poor… that's not my focus."
      -Willard Mitt Romney, January 2012

      "Anne drives a couple of Cadillacs." -Willard Mitt Romney, February 2012

      "I have some friends who are NASCAR Team Owners." -Willard Mitt Romney, February 2012

      "Like those fancy raincoats you bought. Really sprung for the big bucks." -Willard Mitt Romney,
      (to NASCAR fans wearing plastic ponchos), February 2012

      "I'm learning to say 'y'all' and I like grits. Strange things are happening to me." -Willard Mitt Romney, March 2012

      "But I've got a lot of good friends, the owner Miami Dolphins, and the New York Jets - both owners are friends of mine."
      -Willard Mitt Romney, March 2012

      "She has Austrian Warmbloods, which are – yeah, it's a dressage horse, it's a kind of horse for the sport that she's in.
      Me, I have a Missouri Fox Trotter. So mine is like a quarter horse, but just a much better gait. It moves very fast,
      and doesn't tire, and it's easy to ride, meaning it's not boom-boom-boom, it's just smooth, very smooth."
      -Willard Mitt Romney, February 2012

      "One of [the] most humorous I think relates to my father. You may remember my father, George Romney, was president of an
      automobile company called American Motors. ... They had a factory in Michigan, and they had a factory in Kenosha,
      Wisconsin, and another one in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. And as the president of the company he decided to close the factory
      in Michigan and move all the production to Wisconsin. Now later he decided to run for governor of Michigan and so you can
      imagine that having closed the factory and moved all the production to Wisconsin was a very sensitive issue to him,
      for his campaign." -Willard Mitt Romney, March 2012

      "I'm not sure about these. Did you make those? No. They came from the local 7-Eleven bakery or wherever."
      -Willard Mitt Romney, April 2012 (referring to a plate of cookies from a beloved bakery in Bethel Park, PA)

      "I have a lot of memories of France. The best memories were with my wife on vacations from time to time in France.
      The last vacation we had there, walking around the city of Paris, and walking, not just the Champs-Élysées but also over
      to the Jardin of Luxembourg and around the city…one of the most magnificent cities in the world. And I look forward to
      occasional vacations again in such a beautiful place." -Willard Mitt Romney, April 2012

      "We've always encouraged young people: Take a shot, go for it, take a risk, get the education, borrow money if you have to from your parents, start a business." -Willard Mitt Romney, April 2012

      "I tasted a beer once, as a wayward teenager, and never did it again." -Willard Mitt Romney, April 2012

      "Don't you love this country? What a home this is, what grounds these are, the pool, the golf course.
      You know, if a Democrat were here he'd look around and say no one should live like this.
      Republicans come here and say everyone should live like this." -Willard Mitt Romney, May 2012

      Everybody got to elevate from the norm....

      by Icicle68 on Mon May 21, 2012 at 12:34:03 PM PDT

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  •  You've touched on the Romney Charisma(tm) (1+ / 0-)
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    It seems to be the Romney camp's sole consistent political plank: Charisma.

    Even PRI seems to buy it, sometimes (citation available on request)

    They actually don't own a monopoly on it.

    Here's to keeping the faith in 2012 - and democracy continues, regardless.

  •  Not me (2+ / 0-)
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    " . . . . we Democrats are wont to do, to praise Mitt Romney's character."

    Anyone who insults free cookies without sampling them first is a rat.

    "Free market" simplified - if you buy a product and it kills you, you won't buy it again - no government needed.

    by tomwfox on Sun May 20, 2012 at 10:08:09 PM PDT

  •  The Romney Campaign Is The Most (0+ / 0-)

    dishonest and cynical ever run.  He knows the economy cannot do better without a stronger housing market, but has zilch of a plan for helping housing.  He knows the Great Recession was precipitated by Wall St., but wants to kill the paltry regulations put in place.  He wants to kill the one piece of legislation he authored- ACA.

    The dishonesty is just breathtaking.

  •  I think we ought to beat him on facts, not insults (0+ / 0-)
    Mitt Romney is an self-indulgent, egomaniacal, sociopathic coward.
    Just my 2 cents

    Happy just to be alive

    by exlrrp on Mon May 21, 2012 at 06:48:51 AM PDT

  •  BBB, I don't always agree with you, but you are (0+ / 0-)

    spot on here. Mitt is an amalgam of privilege and cruelty. He lacks empathy and a conscience. This is precisely why we do not want a vulture capitalist as president.

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