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Tom Tomorrow's most recent book is TOO MUCH CRAZY from Soft Skull Press.
by Tom Tomorrow on Mon May 21, 2012 at 06:50:05 AM PDT
“In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett
by 420 forever on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:02:08 AM PDT
Sarah Palin, who recently endorsed Texas senate candidate Ted Cruz in a competitive GOP primary, has started to make robocalls for the Tea Party-backed challenger -- and, reportedly, some of those calls are going out in the wrong state.
What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.
by agnostic on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:03:37 AM PDT
Except, of course, for the dig at Obama and the Democrats in the 5th frame. It's an election year, after all - we're supposed to ignore the mountain of evidence showing how Democrats are beholden to corporate interests and Wall Street.
Never be deceived that the rich will permit you to vote away their wealth. - Lucy Parsons
by cruz on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:12:01 AM PDT
the word "regulation" in the same fashion it did "liberal".
Obama used a different word recently that I thought was brilliant framing, but I am drawing a complete blank. Did anyone else catch it, and remember?
As I recall it was one word and it connoted something like financial security, risk protection, consumer protection...
On MST, need more coffee. (Yeah, that's it. Must be. Can't be my 53 year-old memory bank experiencing a senior moment.)
The only reason that change is so hard is that the moderates on "our" side are Tories who support the aristocracy.
by Words In Action on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:15:47 AM PDT
The point the President was making was that, if taxpayers are on the hook for bank decisions, we deserve and need to reduce the risks they take.
by Words In Action on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:21:06 AM PDT
[ Parent ]
with public money, like the S.C. Retirement Fund.
-5.38 -4.72 T. Atlas shrugged. Jesus wept.
by trevzb on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:35:44 AM PDT
"liberal" historically meant something closer to "libertarian." We sorta stole that one before the Republicans ruined it.
by pjb927 on Mon May 21, 2012 at 09:04:54 AM PDT
… that its thinking is in the "liberal tradition"of David Ricardo and the repeal of the Corn Laws.
The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war.
by lotlizard on Mon May 21, 2012 at 09:48:09 AM PDT
Already has his Kryptonite......toxic European Debt......LOL!
by Jabarten on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:23:11 AM PDT
I appreciate the sentiment Tomorrow is expressing but his premises reflect the awful truth that we now live in a completely fact free media environment in which right wing nutjobs and emo-left idealists are able to basically make up stuff to be upset about, as if the reality isn't enough to be upset about.
Given the understandable outrage expressed at Matt Wuerker's idiotic cartoon of yesterday, I'm utterly puzzled by Tomorrow's cartoon of today.
Has DailyKos entered some sort of twilight zone competition for the stupidest cartoons in the world?
Tomorrow says in one panel,
"Not a single executive was prosecuted after the 2008 meltdown."
Ever heard of Bernie Madoff? The collapse of his fund was one of the events that set off the panic and collapse of 2008-2009.
Ever read the newspaper? Like today?
Hedge fund billionaire and Goldman Sachs board member Rajat Gupta is going on trial today.
Tomorrow goes on to say in the same panel:
Not a single bank was nationalized ...
Virtually every bank was nationalized through TARP, by which the federal government bought hundreds of billions of dollars worth of equity in the form of preferred stock in the major banks, and then went on to buy preferred stock in literally hundreds of local and regional banks and credit unions.
You could look it up on ProPublica.
The entire tea party and OWS movements are largely reactions to the bailouts and the fact that people were upset that the terms of these partial nationalizations weren't severe enough.
And that doesn't even scratch the surface of the banks seized by the FDIC or the auto manufacturers basically nationalized by the Obama administration.
This is insane.
People make shit up nowadays and don't even blink an eye.
As I said, I understand the overall point that Tomorrow is trying to make, but does he really have to live in an alternate reality?
On the right there's Fox News. On the left there's emo-prog. Neither are part of the reality based community.
by HamdenRice on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:31:49 AM PDT
"Despite his populist posturing, the president has failed to pin a single top finance exec on criminal charges since the economic collapse. Are the banks too big to jail—or is Washington’s revolving door at to blame?"
unless I am entirely misreading the case, the Gupta case has nothing to do with the 2008 meltdown. Nor did Madoff's by definition, as the prosecution occurred before 2008.
But thanks for the civil feedback.
by Tom Tomorrow on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:36:37 AM PDT
I'm amazed that emo prog types can complain on the one hand about the massive settlement for mortgage fraud -- a settlement for criminal liability that was at the heart of the 2008 meltdown -- and then claim that there wasn't a single prosecution.
It's either one thing or the other.
The Obama SEC and DOJ have in fact been investigating and prosecuting these cases.
Unfortunately for the emo-prog point of view that doesn't mean frog marching executives to firing squads on day one.
It means building legal cases, investigating, reading thousands of pages of SEC filings, and working up the chain of responsibility.
If you want to write cartoons about facts of the economic meltdown and aftermath, stick with the NY Times, not the DailyBeast, Drudge or Fox News.
by HamdenRice on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:51:30 AM PDT
New York times
"It is a question asked repeatedly across America: why, in the aftermath of a financial mess that generated hundreds of billions in losses, have no high-profile participants in the disaster been prosecuted?"
by Tom Tomorrow on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:57:50 AM PDT
How about a link. And don't fucking count Madoff, cause that was a Ponzi scheme from the gitgo . . and I'm pretty sure Taibbi would find your comments as full of shit as I do.
The Obama DOJ and SEC are fucking disgraceful.
I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. ~Thomas Jefferson
by bobdevo on Mon May 21, 2012 at 08:01:21 AM PDT
by 420 forever on Mon May 21, 2012 at 08:24:55 AM PDT
got my timeline wrong on Madoff, he was actually arrested concurrent with the meltdown. Still nonsensical to suggest his was a prosecution resulting from the meltdown.
by Tom Tomorrow on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:52:42 AM PDT
was a major cause of the panic that exacerbated the meltdown and collapse of several banks.
by HamdenRice on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:58:50 AM PDT
by 420 forever on Mon May 21, 2012 at 08:00:05 AM PDT
All those bad mortgages? Toxic assets? That was Madoff's doing?
I had no idea, he was so powerful.
by GreenMother on Mon May 21, 2012 at 08:37:18 AM PDT
his/her written equivalent of diarrhea of the mouth:
by 420 forever on Mon May 21, 2012 at 08:46:30 AM PDT
by lotlizard on Mon May 21, 2012 at 09:50:59 AM PDT
Any more than you should on redstate. Just try making the point that government needs to live within it's means. Ie, anything we spend needs to be paid for.
The howls and abuse you will receive will be a real eye opener. Look at the opprobrium heaped on the BlueDogs.
Sadly, there isnt a forum for sensible centrists anymore. Common sense never did sell as well as self righteous indignation.
Left Coast Libertarian
by pacspeed on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:42:03 AM PDT
are imaginary beasts . . . because anyone with any sense isn't in the center.
by bobdevo on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:59:36 AM PDT
would be to accuse your opposition of lacking common sense.
Yes, that ought to go over nicely.
by GreenMother on Mon May 21, 2012 at 08:38:27 AM PDT
Bobdevo: If we're imaginary beasts, what the hell am I? A leprechaun?
Green Mother: I never said you were my opposition. YOU just pinned that adversarial label on ME.
If you left wing zealots truly think that there isn't a HUGE chunk of the electorate that can articulate and support a wide range of views both central to and anathema to both major parties, you're fucking cracked.
Tell me again how a moderate libertarian platform is crazy?
- Government has to pay their bills. You MUST tax more or spend less, selling off bonds our grandchildren will have to pay to the Chinese Communists ain't gonna cut it.
- Civil rights cannot be picked and chosen. They are listed, pretty damn plainly, in amendments 1-10. That means Billy Bob gets to buy assault rifles, AND Ahmed cant be locked up without a trial. The latter, IMO, is far more serious violation of personal liberties, and a pox on both houses for letting that shit go down the way it has.
- The environment is crucial, vital to all our lives, livings, and well being. If we don't have clean water, clean air, and a decent chunk of biosphere to keep itself alive, we're all gonna slowly starve and die in a shitty dystopian hellhole. But if you just lock it all up and say "No Humans. No Business. No Building" (how they roll in my home county of Marin, CA), then we're screwed too. All that wonderful earth locked away to salve the guilty conscience of a wealthy few at the expense of everyone else.
- The government has no business telling any of us who to love, where to worship, or what you can put in your body. None. That goes for right wing homophobes as well as left wing smoking/organic/locavore nags.
I could go on and on, but hey, Im totally imaginary, and most of the lefties here just want to hear self congratulatory circle jerks from the echo chamber of like minded drones.
Starting the countdown for someone to say "Take that objectivist shit to Redstate!"
As if THEY had any more ability or desire to process an opposing viewpoint than DailyKos.
by pacspeed on Mon May 21, 2012 at 08:38:55 PM PDT
zealot is rather laughable.
But do go on digging your hole.
I stand by my words. Your pre-emptive strike says it all.
by GreenMother on Tue May 22, 2012 at 08:57:34 AM PDT
Bernie Madoff was sent to jail for running a Ponzi scheme and Gupta is going on trial for insider trading - none of which had anything to do with the 2008 meltdown.
by 420 forever on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:51:55 AM PDT
No thanks. Just pass the Cheetohs.
by HamdenRice on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:55:53 AM PDT
Wow, you really lifted this conversation into the stratosphere of intellectualism with that one.
by GreenMother on Mon May 21, 2012 at 08:39:39 AM PDT
I notice Hamden Rice tends to stereotype people and respond to that stereotype rather than what that person is actually saying. He attacked me for being somehow anti-Africa when I was PRAISING an African leader and indicated ways in which some AFrican nations were ahead of America.
Hamden Rice has some very good things to say. But definitely is often blinded by preconceived notions.
FREEDOM ISN'T FREE: That's why we pay taxes. I Had A Thought
by mole333 on Mon May 21, 2012 at 12:43:55 PM PDT
by GreenMother on Mon May 21, 2012 at 08:26:02 AM PDT
The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut
by lotusmaglite on Mon May 21, 2012 at 02:37:07 PM PDT
by pot on Mon May 21, 2012 at 09:40:01 PM PDT
should be portrayed as winking and taking money from Dimon!
"But Brandine, you're supposed to be in Iraq stopping 911!"
by leftyguitarist on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:34:14 AM PDT
is rather incredible.
For its accuracy.
Maybe instead of bashing Reagan we should be calling for someone to emulate Reagan and arrest the banksters?
Change You Can Believe In?
Nope. Just more B.S.
There is a reason that Obama's Chiefs of Staff come from Wall Street Banks. And it has nothing to do with Change We Can Believe In.
by Johnathan Ivan on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:58:10 AM PDT
in 2008, Mukasey, Bush's last AG, dropped several investigations of fraud. Did Hölder reopen them? No, of course not. The Kenyan socialist steeped in Islam that I campaigned and voted for would have rounded up the banksters who stole bailout money for their bonus and chopped their hands off. It was great when he said "I like to know what I'm talking about before I open my mouth" and ''so I would know whose ass to kick". But then he didn't kick anyone's ass.
by arroganceisstrength on Mon May 21, 2012 at 10:59:37 AM PDT
in the first panel!!! "I thought I saw a quarter under this old car!" LoLoLoLoLoLoL
I ♥ President Barack Obama.
by ericlewis0 on Mon May 21, 2012 at 07:58:16 AM PDT
I can feel it up my skirt, every election cycle.
by GreenMother on Mon May 21, 2012 at 08:24:26 AM PDT
Wish I could give another tip and rec just for the way TT interacted with a rude and obnoxious commenter. The rational adult -- I wish I could be more like that more of the time!!
by Southcoast Luna on Mon May 21, 2012 at 04:22:59 PM PDT
FDIC should not guarantee risky investments! If you loose, you loose!
JP lost their OWN money...Obama looses OUR money! Regulate Obama!
by unintent on Mon May 21, 2012 at 04:36:21 PM PDT
have been doing to the African American Community since Reconstruction. Oh wait, we already have. Instead of making our lending fair and equal in a good way, we decided to take it in the other direction. Making it equally sucky and dangerous for all regular American Citizens.
And then criticize them when they stop consuming because they are throwing every last dollar into their balloon rate in their house, and the balloon rate at the gas pump.
I pay the government, tax dollars to regulate our economy so that I can by quality products, get a fair loan, and not be robbed blind because I cannot afford a whole Legal Firm.
I also pay my taxes for good roads, for safe air ways, for public libraries and other forms of infrastructure that my country more like the America I remember and less like Mugabe's Zimbabwe.
by GreenMother on Tue May 22, 2012 at 09:03:54 AM PDT
haven't THOUSANDS of banks been taken over by FED?
by unintent on Mon May 21, 2012 at 04:38:23 PM PDT
by GreenMother on Tue May 22, 2012 at 09:05:57 AM PDT
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by rudewarrior on Tue May 22, 2012 at 09:44:56 AM PDT
by raincrow on Mon May 21, 2012 at 05:27:38 PM PDT
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