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No dude, it's not about selling your cars, or your BBQ's.   This kind of stuff turns my stomach so bear with me while I pitch a fit.  When I see this....I get sick.  I get mad and I cannot believe what people are thinking.   First check this out..

or this guy who is clueless..

Is this new?  No.  I am just tired of it.  I am going to call out ignorance and greed and disrespect every time I see it.  Do I feel that BBQ's are wrong? No.  Selling cars wrong?
No.  Do I feel like these kind of things are totally disrespectful and continuing not speaking up and calling it out is right.  You  bet I do.
Jump below the squiggly and hear my education to these kind of people who are clueless regarding Memorial Day.    That is where the rant will begin !

So the guys above and every other money grubber Memorial Day Sales Pitcher will be out in full force the week of and the day of, without a clue of respect and honor.

The people with their BBQ and picnics will not have an inkling about what this day is really all about.  It is just a time to have a burnt hot dog, a few too many beers, and if lucky, a paid day off from a job that they are ungrateful they have.   I would bet the farm, they don't visit one veteran, national cemetary, or even watch the laying of the Wreaths or televised honors of our men and women who have paid the ultimate price.
I would venture Memorial Day they will not visit a widow, a Veterans Nursing Home, or even speak to crazy Uncle Joe who is kinda messed up from one of those wars.  I can hear the plans as I type...because I have heard these kind of plans before..
 "Let's not have him over for the BBQ...He is just going to cry or start talking about something that happened long ago and far away and we know nephew Josh did not come back with his marbles or legs so let's just not mention the BBQ.  Trust me .. This kind of thing goes on.

Well the folks who do this may not be as famous as Fred Phelps but every bit as disrespectful in a more subtle way.  For those folks I think they prove who and what they are by their sheer dismissal of why the holiday exists.  

Somewhere there is a young veteran lying in a hospital bed crying on Memorial Day for the pain and guilt he /she is dealing with because they saw their buddy killed.  They are now suffering from Post Traumatic Stress and various other disabilities.  If they are combat vets, they are thinking back to a time when things either 40, 60 or 6 years ago was Hell on Earth.  Someone died. Many someones died.  Some family is dealing with a loss.  Some soldier is sitting far away from home and thinking about these things.  Are all of them?
Most of them.  For families who have lost a family or friend whether recent or decades ago the pain is still real.  The startle reaction is overwhelming.  The sadness is real for that veteran and the family because it touches all.  The day floods the vet with memories they wish in many ways they could forget but feel guilty if they try.  There is no magic pill, not enough booze, not enough love nor not enough of anything to heal these wounds at this time.  See, many of these soldiers need mourning as well because even though they didn't lay down and die physically, many was left thousands of miles from home on a battlfield along with the death and destruction they were part of.  For those who paid the ultimate sacrafice, the families are feeling the pain severely.   There is a little girl or boy who has no Daddy and Memorial Day is to honor that sacrafice.  Some Mother or Father will be  closing their eyes as the bugles blow in rememberance of the fallen who happens to be their child and they still see that fresh faced little boy or girl with their first steps not their last one that stepped on a landmine or hit by an IED.

There are families who do not understand their children, wives, husbands, partners, parents, being in their presence with so much sadness, or physical pain, or sickness, or eyes that show no life or patience, and full of rage and tears and moodiness, and they wonder how they can fix this.  They are dealing with veterans who are self medicating or thinking of ending it all.  They are full of anything but joy and happiness.  They are trying to manage.  The Vet and the military family of the vet.  Both are trying to manage their grief and their circumstance.

The people who are selling and barebecuing  and not paying any respect to what this day means or any thought of it's true impact are either ignorant or just self absorbed but IMO unless they make life a little easier for a widow of the fallen, or honor a fallen soldier or the soldier's family on this day, or thank a veteran, then we might as well call them what they are.  They are uncaring, unpatriotic assholes.  You may not but I sure as hell well.  We have a group on here called IGTNT and we are very respectful and a lot of hard work goes into honoring those soldiers past and present who have fallen.   We do it everyday.

 BBQ's are fine but we should call people out who do not even mention or honor thosethat have paid the ultimate price and educate them on what  this day is all about.  

I had planned to write a diary thanking the generous and wonderful help you patriotic folks gave my vet in the midst of the Memorial Day time with his vet brother dying and he himself in the real clutches of Survival guilt and PTSD along with heart problems.  You folks are my heros.  You reach out every day to Military families.  You are real Americans and real patriots.  You care and you support the troops even if you are like me and do not support the war.  Netroots for the Troops will be meeting in Providence and many of you will be there, not just on Memorial day but there during that time and everytime some military family reaches out.  This diary is my thank you from a military family who thought of us and not some meaningless BBQ or sellathon this Memorial Day.

We may have a small wiener on the grill but my husband will not be outside.  He will be in bed or alone, or in the hospital because he DOES suffer from survival guilt.  EVERYDAY.  Especially on these holidays as many of you vets do.  I wish you peace.
I wish you comfort and I wish you to know there are people who do care and they are right here.  They are putting little flags on graves, and they are holding a covered dish dinner for some widows and vets in a small diner, as I witnessed Monday.

So to all the disrespectful Phelps wantabe's this is the education.   This is what Memorial Day is really all about.  May God have mercy on your selfish, clueless, holiday spirit.  

Have a safe Memorial Day and may God Bless the families and friends of the fallen.

Originally posted to Vetwife on Tue May 22, 2012 at 11:12 PM PDT.

Also republished by DKos Military Veterans, Military Community Members of Daily Kos, and Community Spotlight.

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  •  Here's What I Wrote About This (15+ / 0-)

    some time ago. Although it was written in observance of Veteran's Day, it was Memorial Day that got my mind running wild. There's even (in the footnotes) a couple of things that any Kossack can do if you want to personalize your celebration of this Memorial Day.

    I hope it helps.

    Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
    Left/Right: -7.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51

    by Bud Fields on Wed May 23, 2012 at 12:40:01 AM PDT

    •  Thanks Bud ! (10+ / 0-)

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 05:08:49 AM PDT

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    •  I get angry every Memorial Day (8+ / 0-)

      My anger is directed at the American Legion post in our small, northern Minnesota town.

      They have a very nice memorial at the local cemetery with the names of all of the veterans who have passed.  For as long as I can remember our family would go there every Memorial Day, and Dad would always say "Someday my name will be there, and you kids will bring my grandkids here".

      When Dad died six years ago, I contacted the Legion post to see what we had to do to have Dad's name added to the memorial.  I was told that because he belonged to a different post closer to his home later in life, they wouldn't add his name.

      I was so frustrated!  This is the town he was drafted from.  My grandmother is buried in that cemetery (Dad was cremated, according to his wishes).  This town is where the telegram came to my grandmother telling her that her only son had been seriously wounded by mortar fire in Korea.  Yet, this is the town who won't honor my dad.

      Anytime I've mentioned this to vets who belong to other Legion posts, they say it's appalling.  I've tried going up the chain of command to the state and national levels, and all they say is "Well, it's a local post decision".

      I haven't been back to that memorial since Dad died.  I don't know if I'll ever go back.  I will, however, tell this story about the dishonorable behavior of the American Legion every chance I get.

      Memorial Day just breaks my heart.

      Stand Up! Keep Fighting! Paul Wellstone

      by RuralLiberal on Wed May 23, 2012 at 04:01:01 PM PDT

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      •  I had a run in with the Ga ..Carroll County DAV (4+ / 0-)

        about something similiar,  A young man was killed in
        the WOT and then another vet was killed in Iraq from our hometown and the young man who died in Africa did not have his name added.  

        There were several orgs. in that county and each blaming the other and it was DAV that hit the button with me and the young man's Daddy who was a staunch conservative saw his son from Iraq's name had been added and the young man from Africa was not ..He told them to take his son's name off this was not right.
        He in fact brought the attention to me.  I wrote some folks about it and his name was never added but they were naming a highway after him so.....that is something.
        I know there is injustice in everything but when we can speak up it is best.  The man who lost his son in Iraq served in Persian Gulf, his Dad served in Vietnam and his Grandaddy in WWII.....Most 82nd airborne.  
        The other vet who died on a mission not in country was defended by the Father of the soldier from Iraq.  Quite a story and our little org presented a Certificate of Recognition to the family   I really understand

        We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

        by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 04:26:38 PM PDT

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      •  Your story is really upsetting. (3+ / 0-)
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        Do you think it would help if a bunch of us wrote letters? Not mean ones, but ones talking about the emotional value of honoring someone's service in the way they requested it honored?

        Really. This is wrong.

        Poverty = politics.

        by Renee on Wed May 23, 2012 at 06:32:29 PM PDT

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        •  Not in that county...Newt country (2+ / 0-)
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          It was upsetting.....This was several years back.  I think it was disgraceful and I remember the young soldier's name was Samuel Large.....and the vet's father's name was hardegree.  Hardegree (cousin of Craig on here) used to run a paper and he was very upset over Large's name being ommitted off the wall.  I know that Stan was extreme right wing but don't think he is anymore.  His son was highly honored and justified but he even had a General trying to get Large's name on the wall.  WE could not make them understand the mission Large was on was part of the WOT.

          We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

          by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 06:44:21 PM PDT

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  •  omg, I couldn't even finish that second video (12+ / 0-)

    after "Monday who bravely sacrificed itself...."






  •  Most of the under 40 crowd (9+ / 0-)

    have never served, nor do they know a single soul that has served. I got a kick out of my MUCH younger sister when she muttered, "so THAT's what war looks like... " when she watched some of the "Shock and Awe" on the TeeVee when George 41 brought us the first Gulf War. Her first experience. She was stunned. The shock and awe expressed on her own face.
    I really have no problem with all the BBQs and Car Sales. For most it's just another holiday. And, God bless them for their ignorance for what the day represents. Becuz, the nature of this country, they too eventually will experience war, if only on the TeeVee. And, eventually come to realize the significance of the day. I know my sister does. She's got the flag up. And will salute the troops in the parade. She understands freedom ain't free.

    •  I was young and (10+ / 0-)

      knew what Memorial day was.  We used to put flags on graves.   I don't have a problem with bbq's if you understand the holiday.  If that is all it is to people then I do have a problem with it.  Wink that is the problem, people tend to make the same mistakes by being ignrorant of why this is. or that is,

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 04:29:22 AM PDT

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    •  winkk, I was just about to post a similar comment. (3+ / 0-)
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      And, God bless them for their ignorance for what the day represents.
      And I was a military brat & 'nam vet's wife.

      I think that many who celebrate Memorial Day or Veteran's Day holidays (or for that matter labor day) have never served or know anyone who has served in time of war.  

      My own adult children have & show respect but cannot truly relate-despite having a parent & grandparents & great grandparents who served in time of war-whether on foot, a horse or in the air.

      As a youngster, I did not "get it" despite being immersed in the military culture during times of conflict.  

      Until I babysat for a POW's family...then a MIA's family..attended services for my daddy's peers killed in action...held the hand of a screaming active duty person only a few years older than myself as his charred body was being debrided...assisted & befriended the young vietnamese woman being treated by our military hospital who had lost her ears, her nose & most of her face (probably by our napalm..)...

      Seeing ex classmates & boyfriends & the kids I babysat for come home in a flag draped box or missing vital human parts, with PTSD finally finding peace by self immolating or self medicating or just totally detaching...  

      These experiences & more-by the time I was 18-enabled me to "get it" in a way that my own children never will. Thankfully.

      Me- I will remember those mentioned above, those not mentioned & the countless I will never know of- just as I have done for over 40 years.  With respect, with appreciation, with soul sorrow & with a fury that never dims.  

      Every. Day.  

      No flags or parades or bbq or sales required.

      Every day and in every way that I can to help ensure that the need for a Memorial Day or a Veteran's Day is eradicated from the face of this earth.  

  •  Bless you, Vetwife! (16+ / 0-)

    You are carrying the torch for so many who can't be bothered.  We all owe you a debt of gratitude.  You are actively working, every single day, to make life a little easier for those who served, and I salute you.  Heroes come in all shapes and sizes, and serve in many ways.  We may be your heroes, but you are ours.  :-)

    -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

    by luckylizard on Wed May 23, 2012 at 02:16:16 AM PDT

    •  I thank you and have been honoring our (11+ / 0-)

      war dead and veterans as long as I can recall.   I was taught what any holdiay day was about where we got off school.   I had uncles who served in Germany and a Daddy who is a WWII vet as well as great great  grandparents who served in civil war, some on both sides,  They used to have what the south  called Yankee Memorial and Confederate memorial.  We honored both as my kin fought in the confederacy and in the Union armies,  The south no longer does that nonsense of celebrating the conferedate memorial day,

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 04:34:35 AM PDT

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      •  My granddad was in the trenches (5+ / 0-)

        in WWI and my dad was in the South Pacific in WWII.  Granddad ended up with horrible arthritis in his ankles from standing in the mud for months.  His ankles would swell up bigger than a softball on the end of his skinny legs.

        My dad was a medic and received the Silver Star for rescuing a bunch of wounded guys off a cliff under fire.  We never even knew about it until shortly before he died.  Like so many who have been in combat, he wouldn't talk about any of it.

        When I was teaching music, my kids knew what holiday was what.  They loved to sing patriotic songs so weaving in the stories of the holidays was easy.  I'm sure they got some of it in their classrooms, too, but I made double-sure.  :-)  

        -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

        by luckylizard on Wed May 23, 2012 at 11:45:49 AM PDT

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        •  Thanks for his service and your recognition (3+ / 0-)
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          and your service.   I am very familiar with swollen legs and feet on vets here lately.  medics face a lot.  

          We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

          by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 01:30:05 PM PDT

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          •  One thing my dad did tell us (3+ / 0-)
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            was that all the TV shows and movies we see with the old helmets with the red cross on them were bull.  He said the first thing they learned was to take that target off their head and get a plain helmet.  If you look at some of those films, you can see the the cross on a white field is dead center over the forehead.  Poor planning.....

            -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

            by luckylizard on Wed May 23, 2012 at 02:07:31 PM PDT

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            •  yes,,,they learned to camoflauge in the (2+ / 0-)
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              field later on.  Some did.  I don't think all did as I know the 101st did not camoflauge the eagle.  
              That red cross thing was like a target as you said.
              I thought about the British in those red suits during the Revolutionary war...Easy target for the squirrel guns and folks ready to break away and start this country.  

              Somewhere along the line they learned not to salute an officer as well.  Not in the field of battle.

              We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

              by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 02:12:59 PM PDT

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              •  Funny how those things seem (2+ / 0-)
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                like common sense now, but it took them awhile to figure it all out.  I, too, had wondered about the red coats.  I think I read somewhere that they were wool, too.  Can you imagine wearing all that stuff, plus a freakin' wool coat in the summer on the coast?  Hot, muggy, and wool.  Those guys must have reeked.  Pew!

                -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

                by luckylizard on Wed May 23, 2012 at 02:31:01 PM PDT

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  •  Lock-step 'freedom' is not freedom... (3+ / 0-)
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    sorry I see 'patriotism' as just another phony religion-too many innocent people killed in the name of ..what? for 'who'?  WHY????

    Watching so many people follow others over the where?

    "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones."

    "Life without emotions is like an engine without fuel."

    by roseeriter on Wed May 23, 2012 at 02:42:12 AM PDT

  •  I do not say the pledge of allegience (13+ / 0-)

    but I do appreciate the sacrafice of our military and veterans.  I have always been outspoken and an individualist.  throwing the baby out with the bathwater is not the answer.  Markos is a veteran.

     It takes a lot to go through just basic to have a better future.  Honoring veterans to me is not locksteping.  I do pay taxes,  I do respect the warrior not the war, and I don't pledge allegience. and I do protest. I believe in the constitution and that makes me patriotic not the day named Armed Forces , Veteran. or Flag day or Memorial day.  I do not attend the parades.   I don't wear flag pins.  All of these  things that I do and don't do defines my patriotism not symobls.  

    We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

    by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 04:49:57 AM PDT

  •  My ROTC Commandant warned (8+ / 0-)

    that if the Draft were abolished ... pretty soon the Citizen Soldier would be replaced with the "Vir Militaris" -- the career military professional.  Then, he continued, the Professional Military would become a cultural and economic class onto itself, with its own interests, agendas and politics.  

    This was, in large part  how the Romans transitioned from "Republic" to "Empire" and explained the role of "The Colonels" in South American politics.

    And since the Military is essential to Those In Charge ... Those in Charge make sure that the Military closely identifies with Those in Charge -- and can be counted on to conflate Those In Charge with "the Nation".

    And how do they do that.  As Napoleon said: " ... with little bits of ribbon".

    Of course Crocodile Tearing Politicians  at military funerals help ... as does the occasional parade.  And of course having a "Tommy Atkins Day" to celebrate goes a long way to Keeping the Troops Happy.

    But, y'know ... it's all just head-pats for the faithful attack dog.

    You are paid to stop a bullet
    It is a Soldier's job, they say
    Then you goes and stops your bullet
    And they goes and stops your pay

    Why would that change ?

    •  Crocodile Politicans. I said more than once (3+ / 0-)
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      Those who make war and those who fight them are
      two different things.  Actually Old men start them and young people fight them.

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 01:26:51 PM PDT

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      •  Since this subthread was hide rated with +6/-0 (0+ / 0-)

        I think I can answer candidly:

        What you say was certainly true for the Vietnam conscripts ... old men started the war, young men fought it and not many young men had the intellectual or moral equipment to resist or avoid their preordained roles.

        Of course some did ... and they were called traitors and draft dodgers, because the Military thinks it defines and owns the trademark on Honor, Patriotism, Duty, and all the other words that get intoned over soldiers graves -- and the default opinion of the Vast Majority  pretty is pretty much,  that they DO.

        But when Donald Rumsfeld created the new all-professional army ...  the decision to become an instrument of foreign policy acquired political and moral dimensions that might previously have been swept under the Patriotism rug.

        Today, when someone joins the military they WILLINGLY set aside their private conscience, politics, and opinions,  giving their bodies to whatever purpose those Old Men might happen to desire at the moment.

        Soldiering IS a difficult, dangerous and uncomfortable occupation .... as are coal mining, crab fishing, and ice road trucking.   So, I have all the pity and compassion possible for those men and women who made the decision to join the adventure and have wound up suffering the physical, moral and psychological consequences ...  just as I have pity and compassion for other victims of bad advice and foolish choices - such as convicts, addicts and prostitutes.

        But I could never encourage a youngster to  hero-worship,  much less imitate,  them.

        •  well, let me get a grip on this comment. (1+ / 0-)
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          I don't know what was hiderated.   But I know this comment is totally off the chain IMO.  I hate the MIC.
          Let us be clear about that,  The soldiers who are compared to crab fisherman and my husband has done that and my ex was a trucker and I met Loretta Lynn so that comes about as close to Coal Mining as I have gotten is not the same as being shot at or shooting someone.  The fear and being away from home alone is enough to make one terrified.  

          Don't pity our men and womn in uniform. They do not want or need your pity.    As far as their intellect and morals....that is an insult.  Most you say?
          Have you ever been shot at?  Some of the bravest people in the world did not know their duty station and the military is not the Boy can't drop out when you feel like it,  Young people are impressionable and did sign up for things they were told by a recruiter but then we are at the MIC again... and many would never ever have any education at all if not for the GI Bill.  

          I have respect and these men and women deserve respect if they served honorably.   Comparing them to addicts and prostitutes wins no favor with me not that you care I am sure but you are in my diary.  

          Candidly I think you are full of shit.  You know not what you speak about and I suggest you not try using your candid remarks here because I have no patience for it.
          You are entitled to opinion but I don't have to put up with your so called candid self.  You want to think of people who laid down their lives in WWII or other wars and stood vigil and defenders of the constitution as something dirty and filithy then go spew that ignorance somewhere else..NOT HERE.  Enjoy your barbecue while you enjoy it ....ever wonder if you would even have the freedom to eat if not for someone shedding blood for your right to take a bite.

          LEAVE.....You probably set off triggers and I will not put up with that  on any diary I write.  


          We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

          by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 03:50:32 PM PDT

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  •  Thanks for this diary (9+ / 0-)

    I cringe at the sensationalism and complete disregard for what Memorial Day represents. It bugs me around other holidays too ( MLK's legacy should not be honored by mattress sales or 0% financing on furniture) but none as much as Memorial Day.

    Maybe it's having lost an uncle I never knew to Vietnam and seeing two other uncles and my dad honor him by placing flags in the cemetery. Maybe it's just the stark reminder of the sacrifices made by others.

    It's not about cars and furniture and Macy's sales.

    We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

    by Vita Brevis on Wed May 23, 2012 at 10:14:01 AM PDT

  •  Check your title. (3+ / 0-)
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    Sacrafice. Unless I missed something, in that case, my apologies.

    I like to hide mine in the crack of a turkey.

    by DoobyOne on Wed May 23, 2012 at 10:17:50 AM PDT

  •  Thank you, Vetwife. I wish every American (7+ / 0-)

    would read your diary and view these videos --- and then to gain some additional understanding of the ongoing effects of "shock and awe" they should also see this recent diary from Former Chicagoan Now Angeleno:

    My nephew is on life support in Kandahar

  •  Actually Vetwife these commercials help (8+ / 0-)

    the public understand WHY they get the holiday on the last monday in May every year   otherwise many of them would not understand why   TCM plays war movies all week end  or why the post office didn't deliver  the mail

    Military service is a privilige, as bad as many people think the US is, the fact is it is still better than most other countries, in my time in the Army I traveled to many countries around the world, Asia, Europe, the Middle East, I was always happy to come home.

    I had to fight the VA for my benefits, they were not easy to obtain, no one should have to spend 9 years obtaining benefits to compensate them and their families, but  now we recieve excellent care from the VA  and CHAMPVA  the checks provide for us, could it be more, sure  does it really cover loss of  wages and "pain and suffering"   NO as I am sure you and your husband have found out, the commission President Bush had  about  5 years ago said we should get an immediate 25% pay raise   rofl  that report was thrown up in a closet somewhere   congress will never approve that

    do not despise people for not comprehending the fallen, that is why we served  "freedom"  even if it means being stupid    that is our rights as an American

    •  Good to see you here. (5+ / 0-)

      Are you coming back to post a tribute this Memorial Day? I think I will be with my fellow VVAW members for the 11 AM service.

      Bring those still in Afghanistan home NOW . . . It's long past time.

      by llbear on Wed May 23, 2012 at 11:23:22 AM PDT

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      •  Thanks for all you do llbear !!! (4+ / 0-)
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        You of course know how bad a day that way after we had been there a little while entertaining some of the vets but all I will say about that is my husband and me had to go home soon after some songs due to a simple thing like a sign blowning over and the reason he can
        no longer enjoy his ability to earn from his talent.    That is not posted nor will it be but his sacrafice is visible to many who share this life with their partners.  You take the good with the bad and hope the good outweighs the bad days.

        We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

        by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 01:24:47 PM PDT

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    •  Hello my friend and so glad you are here.. (5+ / 0-)

      Your comment reminds me of a talk I had with a vet two weeks ago  who had two strokes and was in complete agreement about the best country.  I agree.
      We have problems.  We have had problems in the past and will have problems in the future but we must continue to  strive for a more perfect union.  

      You are correct about the wait.  The wait is getting longer for so many but it is our job..all of our jobs to make sure the veteran gets his benefits as it does not as you say make up for the earning power that was sacraficed due to trauma whether physical, mental or both.    I have that video up somewhere of me talking to him and my vet playing his guitar and it being a very bad day for him...My husband was a professional musician and that is gone now but the love of the music is still there.

      For you guys I will post the talk with the vet.

      Excuse us ragged out.. Very bad day for my husband but he wanted to do something for Mothers Day thinking he would be hospitalized the next day and of course his vet brother started to go.  

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 01:04:40 PM PDT

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  •  Caught this yesterday, And................. (6+ / 0-)

    Say What???

    "Families won’t want to miss the pageantry and patriotism of this year’s Collegeville-Trappe Memorial Day Parade!"
    The 'say what' and this:
    Memorial Day is not for local pols nor local groups to be patting themselves on the back for the 'glamour' of a parade, it's a day to Reflect on it's Meaning, especially by the 99% who not only don't serve but don't demand any sacrifice, 'patriotism' this isn't!!!

    The new 'magnetic ribbons', the 'parades' and 'welcome home celebrations', with no demand for sacrifice get same results, but 'parades' only last a few hours on one day! Think 'Desert Storm' and 'Gulf War Syndrome', Ignored till the last couple of years, finally, after the 'Parades'! Have the 'Welcome Home Parades' but at each the one word that should be spoke and on the minds of All, 'Sacrifice', Demand It, You Owe It!

    USN All Shore '67-'71 GMG3 Vietnam In Country '70-'71

    Was my reply!

    Have caught a few others and am leaving scathing replies. I'm feel it coming the closer we get that, thanks to being easier to sign into these sites now especially with my full name, without subscribing, that many more are comin!!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Wed May 23, 2012 at 10:58:20 AM PDT

  •  Dr. Jill Biden: Find a Way To Honor (8+ / 0-)
    Everyone Can Find a Way to Honor our Service Members
    May 23, 2012 - Over the past few years, I have been blessed with the opportunity to spend time with our veterans, troops and military families. With every visit, I come away inspired.

    They are military spouses, who balance work, family and school — all while dealing with the emotions of a deployment. They are military children, who move from school to school while picking up extra chores while their dad or mom is away serving our country. They are survivors of our fallen, who are pillars of strength for their communities. And of course, they are our troops, veterans and wounded warriors, who have dedicated their lives to defending America.

    This Memorial Day, we must remember that these heroes are found in every corner of our country, from big cities to rural areas, from base communities to small towns. But no matter where they are assigned or what their duties are, when our service members are called to serve, so too are their families.

    That’s why one year ago, first lady Michelle Obama and I launched Joining Forces, an initiative to bring Americans together to recognize, honor and serve our nation’s veterans and military families. Joining Forces focuses on three key areas — employment, education and wellness — while raising awareness about the service, sacrifice and needs of our troops, veterans and their families. read more>>>

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Wed May 23, 2012 at 11:29:39 AM PDT

  •  We are so lucky (8+ / 0-)

    Our soldier has a few cuts and scrapes, but he is home with us.  I will not forget the families of those who gave everything though.  It was a horrible crap shoot, I am no better than they are...just lucky.  I will look out for their children.  I will care for their wounded friends.  I will do this all my life.

  •  Memorial Day: I hear ya, Vetwife (4+ / 0-)
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    I call my WWII-Vet dad every Memorial Day (and Veteran's Day) to have the same conversation, every year.   We talk about my Dad's service.  And about the loss of my uncle (Dad's brother) in WWII.  And about the loss of his youngest brother (my Uncle Bob) to Agent Orange after 5 tours as Special Forces in Vietnam (it was a slow death, very tragic).  This is what Memorial Day is for!

    Yesterday I went with a friend to help her buy a new car.   The dealership offered her a deal she wouldn't accept.  Then they mentioned:  

    Well, we may have some extra specials this weekend, being Memorial Day.  Some extra sales incentives we can pass along to you.   We'll check on this and get back to you.
    I immediately turned to my friend and said:
    So much for the true meaning of Memorial Day!  It's supposed to be a time of remembering our nation's war fallen, not an excuse for super sales of cars and dishwasher/washer-dryers.
    Thank you for posting this righteous rant.  It seems as though as these great American tragedies recede into history (WWI and II, the Vietnam War, Gulf War I, Shock 'n Awe, et al), each generation becomes more shallow and flippant toward the great sacrifices made in service to our nation.   We need excoriations like yours at times like this.  Bless you and I wish you a pleasant Memorial Day holiday.

    "I'm glad I don't know how it feels to vote to withhold basic human rights from someone else." DavidW-DKos

    by sockpuppet on Wed May 23, 2012 at 12:34:21 PM PDT

  •  Thank you and your comment was (3+ / 0-)
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    spot on.

    We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

    by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 01:18:39 PM PDT

  •  Dear Vetwife. (2+ / 0-)
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    Memorial Day is confusing to me. I respect the willingness to serve. I respect our soldiers lives too, and I prefer that we not use our forces in war. But still, I respect the courage that a person has to enter into the forces and give up the right to walk away from a battle.

    And I respect the sacrifice of those who have died in battle.

    But somehow… I worry that big patriotic days like Memorial Day encourage young people to sign up and put themselves at the disposal of people all too willing to put them in harms way.

    I know you addressed this above. I'm just… telling you what I think because I admire the work I see you doing out in the world.

    Poverty = politics.

    by Renee on Wed May 23, 2012 at 06:42:13 PM PDT

    •  I think it could serve to make kids consider the (4+ / 0-)
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      outcome rather than just buying what a recruiter is saying.  Veterans Day is honoring veterans but Memorial Day actually is honoring the Fallen.  

      This is what my husband and I do when a youngster comes and wants to join after a recruiter has come to the school or a buddy has joined.  We tell them it is up to them BUT.....we suggest they visit a VA nursing home, A VA hospital and look at civilian casualty online.  To research depleted uranium, etc. and talke to at least two combat veterans.  I have not seen one join who dd this.

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Wed May 23, 2012 at 06:49:18 PM PDT

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  •   A Day Late, and a Couple of Dollars Short, (1+ / 0-)
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    as usual, but thanks for the great diary Vetwife.
    I hope you and any who read this will join me and and the IAVA in observing a minute of silence at noon on Monday in memory of the 6,442 (and counting) boys and girls who've made the ultimate sacrifice in this latest round of insanity.

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