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National Journal:

Trump a Symptom of Romney's Problem

That political dilemma for Romney is one that could repeat itself through Election Day. Next week, it could mean standing with evangelical leaders to denounce Planned Parenthood's federal funding. In a month, he might have to deliver a speech to fiscal hawks touting the virtues of Rep. Paul Ryan's Medicare proposal. And before Election Day, he could visit the country's border Arizona to reaffirm support for his hardline immigration agenda.

All positions are already part of the Romney agenda. But none is necessarily the kind of position Romney wants to take pains to highlight in a general election campaign. But as the GOP's rigorous, elongated primary proved, Romney is an unconvincing standard-bearer to many Republicans. As Brent Bozell, who runs the conservative Media Research Center, put it days after Rick Santorum's exit effectively handed Romney the nomination, "Mitt Romney will, ironically, win the nomination without securing his base."

Michael Crowley/TIME:
A Tale of Two Economies: Mitt Romney vs. Republican Governors
Who ya gonna believe? Hint: Romney is a serial liar, and generally on the losing end of that kind of question.  

Chris Cillizza:

Mitt Romney’s losing gamble on Donald Trump
If you have to have it explained, you're a Republican.

Introducing a new political science blog (via Monkey Cage), Mischiefs of Faction:

But here's the key point about that: No one taking the stances Romney needed to take to win this year could have had the sort of résumé needed to be a typical major party nominee. The Republican Party has been moving to the right very quickly in recent years. Almost no one taking the stances that Romney is taking now could have been elected as a senator or a governor from most states just a few years ago. So, if you were consistently conservative (like, say, Bachmann or Santorum), you were either doomed to service in the House or to being kicked out of the Senate. If you had a presidential résumé, conversely, it was probably because your views were pretty moderate a few years ago. Arguably, the only person who can get nominated in the current Republican Party is someone who has pivoted to the right rapidly in the past decade. Rapid polarization makes flip-flopping a necessity.
Dana Milbank:
The time has come for Mitt Romney to prove it once and for all: Is he or is he not a unicorn?

Let me stipulate that I have no proof that Romney is a unicorn, and indeed I want to believe that he is not. But I have not seen proof of this because he has not released the original copy of his long-form birth certificate.

Yeah, there's a web site for that.

Conor Friedersdorf writes in defense of Chris Hayes (and see Open thread for night owls: On Memorial Day, Chris Hayes was right):

Despite all this, Hayes is suddenly under fire for weekend remarks he made about heroism, war, and politics. Our public discourse is such that anyone can find him or herself viciously denounced by complete strangers based on a single sound-byte from which everyone extrapolates wildly. This controversy is worth highlighting because Hayes' words and the reaction to them helps explain why so few broadcasters forthrightly discuss complicated, controversial subjects. Hayes subsequently issued an apology, but it's his critics who've behaved badly.  
National Journal:
North Carolina and Virginia, once Southern vanguards of conservatism, helped elect a Democratic president for the first time in decades. Similarly, deep-red Indiana gave Obama the edge by a tiny, 0.9 percent margin.

The new battleground encompasses 16 states, many of them put into play for the first time four years ago and one more, Arizona, that’s only recently been added to the list. How Obama and Republican Mitt Romney fare this year will help answer the question of whether the larger competitive map from 2008 was a fluke arising from a nationwide outburst of discontent with the party in power, or perhaps something more permanent, rooted in changing demographics.

And unless and until WV and KY make the list, it'll remain a close race.

We've lost a national treasure. Doc Watson has died at 89.

“He is single-handedly responsible for the extraordinary increase in acoustic flat-picking and fingerpicking guitar performance,” said Ralph Rinzler, the folklorist who discovered Mr. Watson in 1960. “His flat-picking style has no precedent in earlier country music history.”
Watch Doc turn it up a notch at 3:04.

More tributes and videos in tharu1's diary here.

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  •  hmmm..... (15+ / 0-)
    The best part of this Trump racist rampage is recognizing that if Mitt doesn't reject Trump soon, he's actually scared of the Donald.
    @LOLGOP via Facebook

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Wed May 30, 2012 at 04:28:08 AM PDT

  •  I assume that was the Oakland Coliseum? (2+ / 0-)
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    Maybe it will give Rickets some new ideas for squeezing money out of Wrigley Field -- "Sex in the Ivy," or some such.

    "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

    by Bush Bites on Wed May 30, 2012 at 04:33:01 AM PDT

  •  I'm pretty sure WV will disappear... (7+ / 0-)

    ....down a coal mine-induced black hole before it votes for a black guy for president.

    "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

    by Bush Bites on Wed May 30, 2012 at 04:38:26 AM PDT

    •  Being from WV (0+ / 0-)

      I couldn't agree more. A real progressive is harder to find in my home state than rocking horse manure.

      And Jay Rockefeller doesn't count. Robert Byrd came close, but with his connection to the KKK in his earlier years that became an "albatross around his neck" in his own words.

      •  After watching the Hatfields and the McCoys (0+ / 0-)

        there may be an explanation for West Virginia.

        The Muslim said "I wished I had met Christ before I met the Christians" - Rev. Marvin Winins

        by captainlaser on Wed May 30, 2012 at 07:34:48 PM PDT

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        •  Now that you bring this up (0+ / 0-)

          I have to admit I'm a relative of "Devil" Anse and also General George Gordon Meade. The Hatfields and McCoys feud was over theft of a pig (at that time worth, relatively, quite a bit of money). Today death by ballistics usually results from insults.  

          Just sayin'

  •  The running right of GOP: (9+ / 0-)

    in 2008 when it was clear McCain would be the nominee, I couldn't understand why McCain didn't grab the middle. If he'd gone to the middle, he might have won AND he would have re-centered the Republican party. By not doing that, he dealt a severe injury to his own party (and I would argue to the country as a whole.) But he was a weenie, too, in political terms, letting the wrong people lead him away from what previously had seemed to be his core principles.

    And now we have Mitt who has NO core principles, going wherever the extremes of his party will take him. To the extreme.

    Life is short. Tell someone you love that you love them. Don't miss the chances while you have them.

    by Melanie in IA on Wed May 30, 2012 at 04:39:00 AM PDT

    •  The base controls the party, I guess. (10+ / 0-)

      But he probably would have run as a bit more moderate if he didn't select moosehead to be his veep.

      She really dragged the crazies out of the closet.

      (She also killed the "experience" issue for him, which was really the only card he had.)

      "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

      by Bush Bites on Wed May 30, 2012 at 04:44:56 AM PDT

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    •  2008 was a lost cause for McCain (4+ / 0-)
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      With the economic collapse he was doomed. In retrospect his only chance was probably to demonize Obama but to his credit he wouldn't go there.

      •  It was time for a change.. (0+ / 0-)

        There was no way a Repub was winning in 2008, especially against the charisma and promise that Obama brought to the race.

        As far as Romney goes..  I really don't get the "Romney is soo extreme!" theme around here like in the above comment.

        If he sticks to the economy theme he has a pretty even shot at the White House..

        •  Romney is extreme (0+ / 0-)

          I don't agree with some of the memes here either, but I think it is true that Romney will likely be a very right-wing president. It's true that he has few real beliefs himself, but he knows who he has to serve the interests of, and he will likely be a rubber stamp for the tea partiers in congress.

    •  How long will it be until (0+ / 0-)

      the "extremes" in the Republican party have Romney singing, "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran (or Syria)"?  John McCain and Lindsey Graham, the foreign policy gurus of the Republican party, are already beating the war drums.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Wed May 30, 2012 at 06:29:43 AM PDT

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      •  The GOP is conflicted on foreign policy issues. (0+ / 0-)

        On this, like so many other key issues, Republicans - even the simple chastizers like Romney compared to the hawks like Sen. Graham and the neo-con crowd - seem blissfully unaware of the American public's disenchantment with another war in the Middle East or anywhere else for that matter.

        Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

        by TRPChicago on Wed May 30, 2012 at 08:05:17 AM PDT

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    •  McCain was to lose from the moment he was (0+ / 0-)

      chosen and Romney will too.  If they go to the middle, they lose the base.   Both of them are moderate and that is toxic in today's GOP.  The GOP is not full of center voters; it is now run by the base, the baggers.  Even so called "independent voters" are really baggers who won't call themselves republican anymore.  Moderate republicans are few and far between.

      2008 was not to be a republican year from the start anyway....McCain had no more of a chance to win than I did even from day one and even his party knew this.  Palin was a last ditch effort but it wasn't enough.  2008 was to be our year, regardless of who they picked.

      •  The more Romney flips and flops on this issue, his (0+ / 0-)

        relationship with Trump and any other issue that appeals to either the base or moderates of the GOP, the better for the Dems.

        It's up to the Dems to make the most of this.

        But please fact check everything and have some decent references.

  •  One of the issues with the "Hayes incident" is (6+ / 0-)

    if a person on the left makes an observation like the one Hayes did is that the media shitstorm comes fast and harsh and he gets even denounced by people on the left.  Like the Move-On "Be tray us" mess.

    If a person on the right makes an observation like that, the right circle the wagons and all defend him no matter how assinine the observation is.

    In the end, those on the left issue an apology, those on the right issue a non-pology, if one is even issued at all.

    "I'm not scared of anyone or anything, Angie. Isn't that the way life should be?" Jack Hawksmoor

    by skyounkin on Wed May 30, 2012 at 04:47:25 AM PDT

  •  Mitt has two uncontrollable loudmouths (9+ / 0-)

    on his team: Ted Nugent and Donald Trump.  These egotistical, fame-seekers are both far more interested in themselves than in either Romney or the country.  Because Mitt lacks core convictions of his own, these bellowing loonies can be taken to speak for him.  When Jeremiah Wright, with his "Goddam America!" was taken as a surrogate for Obama, he made an eloquent speech on race that strengthened him and showed his mettle.  Sure, some on the Right still try to bring up Wright whenever possible, but Obama showed he was his own man, and that his views were both thought out and nuanced.  Can you imagine Romney doing something like that when these clowns get out of hand?

    Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

    by SottoVoce on Wed May 30, 2012 at 05:05:59 AM PDT

  •  I understand people have yelled out to Dana (1+ / 0-)
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    Milbank as he walks down the street, "keep up the good work about that unicorn issue." He's not saying Romney is a unicorn but why won't he release x-rays of his forehead? And Dana's investigators have uncovered some startling information from Willard's home state (of California, mass. Michigan, future Florida, Utah, unclear exactly where they are right now. And about there not being a unicorn on his forehead at infrequent press conferences, one word...plastics (I mean photoshop).
    Although plastics seems to also work.

  •  Chris Hayes forces wingnuttia to think...they hate (5+ / 0-)
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    •  They won't do that. (1+ / 0-)
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      They just react by lashing out - no thought involved.

      And is Ann Coulter's tweeted barb supposed to make sense?  It's nonsensical, even as a slam.  I wonder how menstruating women in the military feel about that little "funny" of hers.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Wed May 30, 2012 at 06:37:16 AM PDT

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      •  The Hayes flap goes to show how badly the GOP ... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... needs things to go on the attack about. They have to gin up issues - and patriotism is a pretty good and safe one for them - to hammer with LIVs. That's all that's in the Chris Hayes/hero story. (Ditto Obama's grades - his college grades?! And Elizabeth Warren's 1/32nd lineage "problem." And the re-Trumped up birtherism.)

        These guys ought to be embarrassed by what they have to do to get attention.
        Thinking of news on broadcast and cable channels, I see Aaron Sorkin is back with Newsroom on HBO starting later in June. I wouldn't normally plump for TV shows in Kos's venue but the teasers for this show are terrific all by themselves. The recent ones focus on a news anchor who is clearly fed up-to-here with pap and is compelled to tell it like he believes it is. Haven't seen journalism like that - much less "real" TV - for ages.

        Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

        by TRPChicago on Wed May 30, 2012 at 08:18:45 AM PDT

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  •  The Republican problem is a disconnect (2+ / 0-)
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    between strategy and tactics (process) and their ideology and policies (substance). They are good at marketing and communication, but when, increasingly, people are not buying much of what they are selling, then their marketing techniques disappoint.

    Moreover, the Obama campaigns(s) have embraced social media and used it successfully. So, now, the Democrats have become very good at communication.

    Obama and the Democrats have targeted the youth and a demographic which has grown a lot recently; Hispanics.

    What Obama has to fight against is the coming onslaught of negativity, which will trigger some cynicism (and probably depress turnout).

    •  Democrats, whether yellow dogs (0+ / 0-)

      or disillusioned, better work on GOTV activities - it's going to be an uphill battle against new voter suppression laws and cynicism all the way to election day.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Wed May 30, 2012 at 06:40:21 AM PDT

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  •  Wisdom from a Bozo (5+ / 0-)

    Okay, it's actually a Bozell, but here's the quote from the National Journal bit that bears further consideration.

    "Mitt Romney will, ironically, win the nomination without securing his base."

    Even allowing for the source having a vested interest in portraying things as more right-slanted than they are, Bozell is probably dead on -- Romney is their pick only because he's the last one standing, not because their base wants anyone like him.

    That's the thing.  You'ld think that Romney's positions would be rightwing enough to satisfy anyone.  And if he's obviously adopted most of them under duress, isn't that pretty good evidence that you and your fellow wingers are capable of controlling the guy?

    The classic story about moderate, pragmatic politician FDR and his relationship with ideologues on the Left, is the episode where he has a bunch of them in the Oval Office after his election to present their agenda.  After a long talk in which they air all sorts of plans considerably to the left of his current positions, FDR ushers them out with the admonition, "Great.  Now go out and make me do all these things."  We were happy with that relationship, our agenda, our fire from the Left, plus his political savvy handling the center, and we accomplished great things.

    Why isn't that model satisfying to the Right?  Why can't they get behind the centrist they need to pull in swing voters, but who has made quite clear that he will use his pull with the center to serve their ideological agenda?

    Sure, there are other explanations possible.  Maybe they fear a double-cross on serving their ideology once he's in office.  Maybe they don't have much confidence in his political skills to get their agenda through once in office even if he doesn't betray them.  

    But it's my sense that their objection to having a centrist leader whom they have to push rightward, is that they have a model of political leadership in which the Leader has to lead, kicking ass and taking names the whole way.  They want someone on fire with Righteous zeal.  Santorum may have been Right enough, but Jesus H. Christ, the Leader is not going to come again in glory wearing a sweater vest!  

    The ability to create a facade of moderaton and centrism, while pragmatically a good thing in helping their agenda be enacted, is to them a disqualifier because they aren't really in this to have any ideological agenda enacted into boring old law.  They want Righteousness, and especially righteous indignation.  They want Apocalypse, and they want it now.  Their Leader exists, not to get anything worldly done, but to stand uncompromisingly at the head of the Righteous army fighting the forces of Evil.  Who cares about public policy implementation, because there will be no need of public policy in the New Jerusalem.

    We should have destroyed the presidency before Obama took office. Too late now.

    by gtomkins on Wed May 30, 2012 at 05:20:34 AM PDT

    •  or....maybe they're just (1+ / 0-)
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      •  Not sure who they'ld be envious of (1+ / 0-)
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        Our side hasn't been able to pull off the good model since LBJ's presidency.  And its not as if LBJ's administration pesents, in total, a very enviable picture.

        That undoubtedly is a large part of why politics is going more and more off the rails in this country.  We haven't done things right, we haven't used our political machinery to get things done, for so long that all involved, politicians and voters alike, have forgotten what right looks like.  And that machinery is so complicated when viewed in the abstract, that you really need to experience it in practice, while it's functional, to have a sense for how it works.

        Even a smart person like Obama doesn't seem to really get his part in the dance he should be doing with his base.  He relies instead on his fancy footwork in a solo, free of our partnering, to impress the swing voters.  He ends up getting nothing done because he kept aloof from the dance partner that should have kept him on target to get things done.  So there's no model for how it's done, how this complicated process actually can result in getting things done after the music stops.

        The other side might be more sensible, would be glad to have a Romney to work the center for them, if they had any recent example of how that model can work to get an agenda through.  Instead they fear that Romney will be an R version of Obama.  He'll get in and then dance solo out of fear of alienating the swing voters.

        We should have destroyed the presidency before Obama took office. Too late now.

        by gtomkins on Wed May 30, 2012 at 05:48:24 AM PDT

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    •  Totally agree (3+ / 0-)
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      But as for this part

      Romney is their pick only because he's the last one standing, not because their base wants anyone like him.
      The only reason he is the last one standing is because he essentially buried all competitors in cash and suffocated their campaigns with negative advertising.

      Romney has made it through the primary without ever have to really explain who he is or what he stands for. Instead, they just piled on negative ads on whoever polled at 2nd to make sure they didn't get too close.

      •  Yes and no (1+ / 0-)
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        Etch-a-Sketch (can I just call him Etch for short?) undoubtedly benefited from all that money.  But his winger opposition did have enough money, plus free media (they had, what 137 debates, give or take a dozen) to get their message out.  All that money was never able to get Etch to 50% while he had active opponents, and very often wasn't getting him even a plurality. And if the moneyadvantage really was insurmountable against divided opposition, that was a known factor. Why didn't the ideologues respond by coalescing behind one lone wingnut?  For my money, the question Bozell raises of why the base did not get a candidate they like despite dominating the party, is still open, money can't explain it.

        As for Etch not explaining who he is, I really don't see that, or rather, I can't see that as anything but a comment from the same sort of headspace where the wingers live.  The man has no ideological loyalty. He has made that quite clear.  He's forthright about that.  He will do what the Right wants him to do if elected.  He has made his subserviance to the wingers about as clear as anything ever gets.

        To my mind that's not a knock, that's how things ought to be.  FDR and JFK were both big time 1%ers by birth, and of no discernible ideological conviction before being elected.  Yet they danced with them that brung them to the dance once elected, and did great (okay, confine that part of it to FDR) things for the 99% that they chose to put their ideologically neutral talents to work serving.

        Now, I'm not voting for Etch because I don't want the winger agenda advanced, not because I think he hasn't defined himself.  He has me convinced that he will work for the wingers, and that is plenty enough definition for me.  I don't look deeper, I don't try to discern the inner man behind the public persona of faithful servant of the Right, I don't look for what he "really" stands for.  I have enough trouble discerning what I really stand for, and I'm happy to go with Etch in his very clear public fealty to any extreme plan the Right cares to adopt.

        We should have destroyed the presidency before Obama took office. Too late now.

        by gtomkins on Wed May 30, 2012 at 06:14:34 AM PDT

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    •  What nonsense.. (2+ / 0-)
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      Anyone pundit thinks the base is not behind Romney 100% at this point is an idiot or reads only Daily Kos..

      All the points you make are months old.. primary stuff.  In the past few months they have got solidly behind Mitt.

      Try reading some conservative blogs on a regular basis.. the transformation has been rather eye opening to me, at least.

      •  With notably rare exceptions (1+ / 0-)
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        Sure, worshipful pronouncements about Etch are ubiquitous in wingnuttia since he's become their standard bearer.  But the Bozell statement and its ilk are also ubiquitous.  Don't try to square those two observations.  Only the wingers have the necessary theological background.

        The best that I, with my lack of Bible College training, can make of this apparent contradiction is that they want to win, so of course they will publicly rally around their standard bearer.  But it's also clear that they still don't like or trust him, at all, not even a little.  Reasonable objective observers are fairly certain he will work their agenda faithfully if elected, but you will find doubt on that score principally among them.  That's pretty much what the Bozell quote means.  The wingers are the last people in America (okay, that's wrong, the centrist media probably believes this fairy tale too, for other reasons) who imagine that a President Romney will be anything but a faithful servant of the Right.  They are the only folks who don't believe that Etch will serve their agenda, and that's not really worshipful, however fulsome ther praise when they try to rally each other and refuse us the aid and comfort of obvious dissension in their ranks.  

        We should have destroyed the presidency before Obama took office. Too late now.

        by gtomkins on Wed May 30, 2012 at 06:32:14 AM PDT

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      •  not so sure about that (0+ / 0-)

        But doesn't that freeper site ban people advocating romney? He mightve changed that policy but i know that was the case. Also, that tea party radio host that's on msnbc, I think his name is Steve dace, he's certainly not in the romney camp. I've also talked to a few tea party that live here in ny who are really apalled by this guy. Sure, the mainstream national review sites are behind him but the really wingnut part of the base really aren't that solidly behind him. Theyll probably vote for him in the end but there certainly is no enthusiasm behind it.

        •  Yes, I think that was RedState.. (0+ / 0-)

          (which I have been banned from 2 or 3 times!  I'm so proud...)
          Anyway, but even RedState has softened.. hell, softened is the wrong word.. more like they have done a 180..

          As a matter of fact, they have a front page video up this morning of Andrew Breitbart chastising conservatives for not being behind whoever is the nominee.  Here's the front pager's comments about it:

          It never ceases to amaze me how good Andrew Breitbart was at summing up a situation, or to sadden me that he’s gone. And he’s right. We have only two choices for the top of the ticket in November. It’s important to remember that.
      •  My parents are both republicans and my father (1+ / 0-)
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        says to this day he will cut off his arm before voting for Romney.  My mom says she will vote for him but she seriously can't stand him.

      •  No way does The Mittster have 100% of the base. (0+ / 0-)

        The Far-and-Farther Right may be blogging for him, so long as he doesn't stumble, but that's only tantamount to "wishing him in," hardly full throated support. Here's what I think will prove that:

        1. Mitt's pick for VP will be an ultra-conservative. If he so much as whispers to a center/moderate, the evangelicals will tell him they'll go public with their views. (No, they won't vote for Obama. They'll just drop out. The margins are likely to be so small that will be enough to terrorize the Mittster.)

        2. Until he has his Far Right VP, Mitt'll continue to cuddle up to the Far-and-Farther Right at public events and fund-raising opportunities, knowing full well that such craven cozying will draw publicity that almost certainly hurts him with the 5-10% of the 2012 electorate that is moderate/independent/undecided/disenchanted.

        3. He will not dare sound like a compromising centrist willing to work with The Dark Side to get Washington working again. Washington should be drowned in Grover's bathtub, will be Mitt's enduring approach to governance. The most reasonable Mitt will ever get is to be less outrageous publicly than the most outspoken rightists. (I.e. The positions the array of Republicans have pronounced on Syria).

        Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

        by TRPChicago on Wed May 30, 2012 at 08:42:42 AM PDT

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  •  I just heard a snippet of a Romney (5+ / 0-)
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    speech in which he compared the country to a business, and we are the "customers".  He then said something to the effect that it's the role of business to keep the "customers" happy.

    Goddamn it.  I am not a customer,  I'm a citizen and our country is not a goddamned business. How anyone could vote for this charleton is beyond me.

    •  More "against Obama" (0+ / 0-)

      than "for Romney."  The only ones really "for" Romney are his 1% buddies - and some of them may decide he's too in thrall to the teapartiers before it comes time to vote.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Wed May 30, 2012 at 06:45:17 AM PDT

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    •  After fighting with Verizon today (0+ / 0-)

      I don't want to be a customer.

      The Muslim said "I wished I had met Christ before I met the Christians" - Rev. Marvin Winins

      by captainlaser on Wed May 30, 2012 at 07:39:17 PM PDT

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  •  More apparent to whom? (2+ / 0-)
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    Supavash, SueDe

    They were apparent to most Republicans all along, hence the "Anybody but Mitt"s who kept popping up.

    Romney is a crappy and unlovable candidate.
    At least John Kerry had all that hair, even if he did look stupid in hunting camo.

    Obama's task is clear:

    Convince the electorate that the country is going the right direction and that we will be fine with him at the helm.

    Do that, and Romney won't matter.
    Fail to do that, and Romney won't matter -- but in a different way.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Wed May 30, 2012 at 05:34:33 AM PDT

  •  Local radio wingnut just said Obama is a muslim... (1+ / 0-)
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    The GOP has a rotten appendage which they are going to have to deal with before November.

  •  romney clinches nomination (0+ / 0-)

       go for it

  •  IYHTHIEYAR (2+ / 0-)
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    If you have to have it explained, you're a Republican.
    Can I borrow that ?

    Nuance is lost upon those who choose not to look.

    by poliwrangler on Wed May 30, 2012 at 05:42:47 AM PDT

  •  I heard Chris Hayes' comments in context, and (6+ / 0-)

    I agree with him.  We've trivialized the term hero and made it an obsequious label in order to prop up the volunteer military.  Do we call the mercenaries heroes?  Rarely.  We want to make military volunteerism into a quasi-religion, one we attend services for and speak of with piety and reverence because elevating it puts it above the realm of obligations of all citizens.  The heroes are dying for our sins, if you will, so we don't have to serve because we are mere congregants.  
    Hayes was correct to say that calling all in the military heroes makes war so much easier to enter into.  Our mythology demands heroes, and we don't want  them to be us, the Romney boys, or anyone we don't think is expendable.  We have devolved back to the days when people of means could pay others to fight in their places, and as a nation we are certainly not the Band of Brothers of the Greatest Generation.  We have wimped out of our citizen obligations, shifted them onto the few and patronized them with the hero label in order to assuage our own guilt.  The troops themselves want our gratitude for doing their jobs, but they will be the first to acknowledge that the true heroes are the ones who do not come back, who give the full measure.
    The only thing Chris Hayes has to apologize for is raising the bar for content of the morning talk shows.  The quality of discussion among his lesser known assemblages puts the hackneyed Sunday morning politician/operative chatter to shame, the difference between fast food and gourmet buffet.  

    Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Islands, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

    by judyms9 on Wed May 30, 2012 at 05:59:36 AM PDT

    •  Well stated. Thank you. n/t (0+ / 0-)

      A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen, and philosophers and divines. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

      by tb mare on Wed May 30, 2012 at 06:48:55 AM PDT

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    •  The troops appreciate our gratitude, (1+ / 0-)
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      but what they really want is access to the benefits they were promised when they enlisted.  Parades are fun, medals are fancy, but what they need is moral support for their families while they are sent on multiple tours of duty and a VA that meets their needs when they return home.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Wed May 30, 2012 at 06:52:52 AM PDT

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  •  R.I.P. Doc Watson (1+ / 0-)
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    Wow, Earl Scruggs a few weeks ago, now Doc Watson... who's next, Taj Mahal?  An era passeth.

    •  Saw Doc in concert in 1976. Wrote to (0+ / 0-)

      a friend of mine at the time, "Now I can die happy."  What Doc could do with a guitar/banjo was absolutely phenomenal.

      •  yes, he played banjo, too (0+ / 0-)

        but on the guitar, there was no one like him.

        Sawe him in concert with merle. Loved his playing with earl, with Chet atkins, with anyone who wanted to play.

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Wed May 30, 2012 at 07:53:16 AM PDT

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  •  My Gosh! Wake Up People. (2+ / 0-)
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    We have 6 days until the recall of Scott Walker and what is the buzz on Daily Kos???

    Donald freaking Trump and Chris Hayes!
    That is exactly what they want you to do.

    The NRA is lying in their ads. The Republican Governors Association is lying in their ads. Scott Walker is lying to Congress and in his stump speeches. The Koch Brothers and  Karl Rove and several other Super PAC's are spending upwards of 30 million dollars to decieve the people of Wisconsin.

    Maybe we can discuss what "The Donald" is wearing today or Why Mitt won't denounce him...

    The NRA says that Tom Barrett wants to take your deer rifles away (A Boldfaced Lie!!! ) yet Scott Walker has a Deer Czar so that he can regulate hunting on Private lands and take some more of the ever shrinking incomes of the middle class..

    Maybe we can have a thread about what Michelle Bachmann and Sara Palin think of how Ted Nugent is being treated unfairly.

    Scott Walker is probably criminally responsible for any number of campaign violations. I could go on and on.

    At least after June 5th we will be able to write and write and write about how Citizens United won out over Decent honest hard working people....

    Yes I am a little nervous about June 5th!!!

  •  Trump made Romney look like a rookie (2+ / 0-)
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    politician.  Anyone could've seen that the Donald would rain all over Mitt's parade.  I believe a number of voters would be a bit confused and unsure about Romney after this stunt.  Is that all he has to offer us in this campaign?  He deserves to get blown out in November and take the entire GOP down with him.

    Alternative rock with something to say:

    by khyber900 on Wed May 30, 2012 at 06:23:30 AM PDT

  •  poor chris hayes (0+ / 0-)

    Being hounded for a borderline inappropriate comment on memorial day. There's a lot of truth to what he said as well. Anyone who watches his show knows he's a really intelligent guy. He's getting such a raw deal right now.

  •  Mormons Interviewed by the BBC (0+ / 0-)

    today hoped that Romney would provide a good example, and not embarrass them.  The example he is providing is one of dishonesty, lying, total amorality.  Is that the example Mormons want provided?

  •  Romney would have been more successful before (0+ / 0-)

    video, tape recorders, TV, and internet.  Telling lies used to be much easier.

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