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"The charge is simply false."

How refreshing when a member of the traditional media slices through the gobblydegook and states the conclusion bluntly and succinctly. In this case "He lied" would be even more blunt and more succinct and certainly no less accurate. But that's a quibble.

The lie comes from a man who has already proved himself quite adept at lying this election season, Mitt Romney. Perhaps "adept" is the wrong word since he keeps getting caught, even if not usually called on it in the tradmed. Maybe "prolific" would be a better choice.

Whichever word fits best, Jake Tapper nailed Romney for the claim during his speech at the failed solar power company Solyndra Thursday that “an independent inspector general looked at this investment and concluded that the administration had steered money to friends and family, to campaign contributors.” The lie is repeated in a television ad focusing on Solyndra.

The inspector general in question is Gregory Friedman. He works at the U.S. Department of Energy. He testified about his investigations before the House Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Committee on Energy and Commerce in March 2011. He said no such thing about having shown that money had been steered to "friends" and "family." What he said was:

“We currently have 64 open investigations associated with the Recovery Act, nearly 25 percent of our current case load. Schemes under investigation include the submission of false information in applications for funding, fraudulent claims for rebates, claims for unallowable or unauthorized expenses, the directing of contracts and grants to friends and family, weatherization fraud to include mischarging, and other attempts to fraudulently obtain Recovery Act funds.”
So the IG's office is looking into many cases. Good. That's its job.
A spokeswoman for the Inspector General’s office told ABC News: “However, none of the cases that resulted in convictions for recovery act fraud were related to the directing of contracts or grants to family or friends.”
Claiming otherwise is a lie. But that never stops Team Romney. Too bad this pattern of behavior so rarely gets the heave-ho treatment. When it does it is worth expending a few pixels to make special note of it.

Originally posted to Meteor Blades on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 03:30 PM PDT.

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  •  So this is what politics is about? (1+ / 0-)
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    "Mitt is evil."

    Repeatedly stating the obvious to obscure the true.

    •  Rec'er should unrec. (0+ / 0-)

      Based on your comment, it would seem that you (theKgirls) have mistakely rec'd my comment.

      My point was that it was sad to see Meteor Blades engaging in the "Look at Romney, he's more evil" species of politics when Obama continues the neoliberal, imperialist policies of Bush--and worse.

      It comes from working for Kos, I suppose.

      Ban me if you like.

      •  Do you dispute he's more evil? (4+ / 0-)

        If not, what is the point of your comment?

        You never trust a millionaire/Quoting the sermon on the mount/I used to think I was not like them/But I'm beginning to have my doubts -- The Arcade Fire

        by tomjones on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 04:50:15 PM PDT

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        •  Who would win... (0+ / 0-)

          a competition between Stalin and Hitler?

          It's a ridiculous point.

          Where is respect for civil liberties and the equal application of law to all in this Administration?

          Neither horrible nor unimaginably horrible offer a path to a better future.  In fact, the lesser of two evils has made this awful present a reality, going back--at least--to Clinton.

          •  OK, your point is duly noted (6+ / 0-)

            The Green Party web site is thattaway.

            You never trust a millionaire/Quoting the sermon on the mount/I used to think I was not like them/But I'm beginning to have my doubts -- The Arcade Fire

            by tomjones on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 05:11:42 PM PDT

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            •  Closing out discussion... (0+ / 0-)

              is a great "democratic" tradition.

              And apparently one with which the sainted Meteor Blades has no problem.

              I'm no Green.

              I'm an abstentionist.

              Voting in this environment is an exercise in validating our lack of a real choice--and the meaninglessness of electoral politics.

              I am a coward.  If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to vote, I would participate.

              Bugs Bunny for President!

              •  Some points: (13+ / 0-)

                I have challenged this administration repeatedly on its foreign policy. Just last night in Night Owls, I wrote a diary on the administration's continuing support for Bush policy on domestic surveillance. I have opposed the President on his fossil-fuels policy and his timidity on economics.

                Despite my critiques of the President, I don't buy your Obama = Romney trope. There is a difference or $2 trillion in what Romney wants to do with the military, a difference of 100,000 troops, a difference in staying vs. going in Afghanistan. There is a difference between denying (or ignoring) climate change and working (if too slowly) to adapt and ameliorate its effects. There is a difference between cutting millionaires' taxes and setting a floor on them.

                Are the differences as stark as I would like? No. Not by a long shot.

                But in this particular case, Romney is working to destroy one of the better programs Obama has introduced—support for renewable energy at a level we haven't seen since Jimmy Carter. Just as I don't think Obama should be let off the hook on civil liberties or drone policy or other foreign policy matters simply because he is a Democrat, I don't think we should allow Romney to trash a policy on which Obama has done a reasonably good job. Your mileage obviously varies.

                Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

                by Meteor Blades on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 05:47:27 PM PDT

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                •  Response: (0+ / 0-)

                  Yes, you've challenged this Administration at times.  But less and less as the election nears.  The behavior doesn't negative your being dubbed as "The Beard" in some circles.  You criticize Dems, mildly, in between elections, but when the election draws near, you focus on the evils of Republicans.

                  More importantly, you countenance Kos's silencing of contrary viewpoints.  You've watched his absurdly undemocratic, arbitrary process in practice for years, and you've stood silent as he has purged this site of independent, interesting voices.

                  Of course, that's made you look ever more "Left" and made you seem ever more boldly independent even as you've acquiesced in the banning of more and more real Leftists.

                  In particular, you've even buttressed the increasingly militaristic bent of this site as IGTNT was first introduced, then institutionalized, then declared off-limits to anti-war comments, then declared sacrosanct and immune from criticism throughout the site so that criticizing IGTNT was the quickest and surest route to banning on Big Orange.

                  You can try to rely on your resume of Old Left activities to justify your subservience to Kos's authoritarian administration of this website if you like.

                  Personally, I don't see how anyone who purports to be on the Left can continue to be associated with this place in an official capacity.


                  •  So I suppose that undeserved (4+ / 0-)
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                    tongue lashing of MB means that you are one of the "interesting voices" you so admire and miss here on DKos?  If so, I have to disagree.  I find such attacks repellent, not "interesting."  

                    If, as you seem to suggest, this place is so authoritarian that it's beneath contempt, what is your goal in visiting?  To demand that like you we all sit out the election for lack of a respectable candidate?  

                    For me, there are many stark differences between Romney and Obama.  Here's one:
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                    Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

                    by SottoVoce on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:01:53 PM PDT

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                    •  There are stark differences. (0+ / 0-)

                      Between those discerning enough to perceive the lack of substance in two-party politics and those foolish enough to think that the election of Rs or Ds will make much difference to the great mass of Americans.

                      Watch the obeisance paid by Clinton and the rest of the Ds to the would-be Masters of our universe.  Even the Obama campaign's mild little protests against Capitalist rule are too much for the "smart" Dems that really control the party.  Obama has been used for his designated purposes.  Now he's being sold down the river--to perpetual wealth of course--by his Dem handlers.

                      Fuck them all, I say.  Refuse to be their subjects.  We still hold the power if only we reject their prescribed course for us.

                      •  So in response to my question, (3+ / 0-)
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                        Your answer is yes, you traffic here to persuade others to opt out of voting.  Sorry, you won't convince me. That Old Left that you so disparage is my demographic as well.  I've been voting a long time, with pride, and I'm not stopping for you.  Your argument that both parties are the same doesn't convince me any more than the  "news" media's false equivalence does.
                        PS:  Heres  a tip: calling yourself "discerning" and your opponent "foolish" won't win many converts.

                        Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

                        by SottoVoce on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:41:12 PM PDT

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                        •  Thank the gods for you. (0+ / 0-)

                          Things have gotten so much better since you've been faithfully voting.  I'm sure you'll agree.  LOL.

                          Emma Goldman had it close to right:

                          "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal."

                          And David Graeber is fundamentally right:

                          "How many voters does it take to change things?

                          Trick question.  Voters never change anything."

                          Electoral politics are rigged.  In a Capitalist system, the Capitalists own the State.  It's a basic fact of life.

                          Electoral politics matters to a small group that directly benefits from the corrupt benefits they will reap if their party wins.  For the rest of us, it doesn't matter.

                          If you want real change, you must take direct action in concert with others.

                          Direct action gets satisfaction.

              •  Yay! "They're both the same!" (3+ / 0-)
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                How did that work out for you in 2000?

                A village can not reorganize village life to suit the village idiot.

                by METAL TREK on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 06:52:45 PM PDT

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                •  Gore was smarter than Bush. (0+ / 0-)

                  Would his policies have been different?  Doubtful.

                  But Gore, like Obama, would have been far slicker at selling them, at least from the "progressives'" standpoint.

                  •  Doubtful? (5+ / 0-)

                    On climate and pollution issues? No difference?
                    Going to war against the middle east? Doubtful?
                    etc., etc.
                    Sheeeeesh. Try reality sometime. You  just might like it.

                    "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war." -9.75, -8.41

                    by RonV on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:18:58 PM PDT

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                    •  You're the one... (0+ / 0-)

                      fantasizing about the Gore Administration after 3+ years of Obama droning brown people.

                      Who's got the reality problem?

                      •  YOU do! (1+ / 0-)
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                        With this "they're both the same" horseshit.

                        At the very least 3,000 Americans would probably still be alive since a POTUS Gore would have read his PDB on 8/16/01. Not to mention the 4,000 US troops and million Iraqis who would still be alive because he wouldn't have invaded an unarmed nation on the basis of a lie.

                        But hey, Obama didn't give you your pony, and that's more important.

                        A village can not reorganize village life to suit the village idiot.

                        by METAL TREK on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:37:11 PM PDT

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                        •  And which of any of them... (0+ / 0-)

                          despicable characters all, have done anything to dismantle the bullshit that is American Imperialism?

                          Your argument is that Gore was a more efficient and effective imperialist, not that he would have changed anything substantively.  And you are absolutely right about that.

                          Once upon a time, a Democratic nominee for President got up on the podium at the Democratic convention and lamented that we had killed Vietnamese.

                          Now, Democrats brag that they are more efficient at killing brown people than the Republicans.

                          What a great improvement.

                          •  I guess reading comprehension is not your strong (2+ / 0-)
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                            suit, since what I argued is that Gore would NOT have been more efficient at killing brown people since he would not have killed brown people in the FIRST place. His dilligence would have prevented 9/11 & the killing of brown people in Iraq, the bullshit excuse for invading that country in the first place. But since Obama didn't give you one & since it makes you feel better, here you go


                            A village can not reorganize village life to suit the village idiot.

                            by METAL TREK on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 08:53:12 PM PDT

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                        •  not to mention... (2+ / 0-)
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                          Matt Z, METAL TREK

                          Not to mention that many of the citizens of New Orleans would have fared better had President Gore presided over the handling of that situation.  

                          Instead of Babs Bush cooing that because of Dubya's direction, things were working out nicely for all of the displaced people and ignoring the fate of those who drowned or starved or died of dehydration -- or Dubya, following his tardy, disinterested fly-over, congratulating Brownie on his heck of a job -- there would have been efficient, effective management of the emergency, and there would have been a concerted effort afterward to correct the problems with the failed infrastructure.  

                      •  It's 90 degrees outside (2+ / 0-)
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                        No, wait... it's 10 degrees outside.

                        Air conditioner or woodstove. You see no difference. It's all the same in your world.

                        "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war." -9.75, -8.41

                        by RonV on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:51:50 PM PDT

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          •  Stalin. The Choice is Clear. nt (0+ / 0-)

            Save the U.S. Postal Service, an august, efficient, trusted and indispensable American institution.

            by LeftOfYou on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:05:43 PM PDT

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          •  Stalin and Hitler? (0+ / 0-)

            "The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handles." Subterranean Homesick Blues, Bob Dylan

            by psnyder on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:22:25 PM PDT

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      •  Here's the thing. When a republican was in (0+ / 0-)

        office I got to see how things go when the oligarch has no opposition.

        At least with a Dem in control, the oligarch has some opposition.

        There's something to be said for that in this day and age of out of control corruption.

        Now if you can show me some other choice, and not "don't vote" I'll give it a look-see.

        Romney - his fingernails have never been anything but manicured.

        by Pescadero Bill on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 08:08:16 PM PDT

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    •  Hello Outcast, "repeatedly stating the obvious" (0+ / 0-)

      indicates you may be young in years, yet wise in your conclusions.

      Mittens is not evil, nor was shrub, they're both puppets of those who inflate their candidate's qualifications, and accomplishments (never mind the sound bits from the Republican Party).

  •  trickle down semantics... (29+ / 0-)

    Rachel has Eugene Robinson on to talk about Romney's lies. Robinson writes a column that highlights Romney's lies. And now we have Jake Tapper mentioning it...

    Sooner or later, there will be a feature on the nightly news that highlights Mittens lie of the day.

    I just hope that they all start using the actual word "lie". Ed, Rachel, and Lawrence do -- nightly. And it's time for the MDM to call a lie a lie.

    The search for truth and knowledge is one of the finest attributes of a man, though often it is most loudly voiced by those who strive for it the least -- Albert Einstein

    by theKgirls on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 03:37:20 PM PDT

  •  Lies are all that Romney has to offer. (20+ / 0-)

    He spent much of his life as a vulture capitalist. He has been running for office--mostly unsuccessfully--for 20 years. He was a failure as the governor of MA. None of this makes him an attractive presidential candidate. He know that the traditional media will not call him on his lies 99% of the time. It's like spaghetti. He throws it against the wall and hopes it will stick.

  •  I heard the allegation on NPR (14+ / 0-)

    No rebuttal, no one on NPR calling Romney on it.  And the right claims NPR has a left wing bias.

    "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

    by Navy Vet Terp on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 03:39:02 PM PDT

  •  Mittens (8+ / 0-)

    Mitt Romney: "I know why jobs come and why jobs go!"
    Meaning: "For the bottom lines of myself especially and for years to come, my partners and the wealthy who invested, that's free market capitalism with none of that economic investment trickle down, promised, intended!"

    { mostly job loses and jobs with stagnated or lowering wages with little to no benefits which leads to heavy turnover and less and less quality control and customer service, that builds the bottom line}

    On Jobs: The record speaks clearly: What happened to not only jobs but the free market capitalism of reaganomics as to investing in economic growth  and with the bush tax cuts especially to the wealthy, i.e. job creators, not too mention except for the handful the mitt hires to run his campaigns, rest depends on volunteers, that job creator hasn't produced in years let alone those at bain, even the Olympics, those jobs are always there if hosting.

    And then to regulations: Again very clear, under new capitalism businesses are supposed to regulate themselves, look at all that happened when the tepub congresses had both houses and a tepub president and the regulators, literally in bed for some of them, not doing even what's already on the books as to their jobs.

    Need more be said!!!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 03:45:55 PM PDT

  •  I'm beginning to wonder if the (1+ / 0-)
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    habit of relying on euphemisms doesn't do double duty in not only making negatives sound better than they are, but in making prevarication habitual.

    Is that how "story telling" gets turned into lying?

    Also, it's possible that prevarication is a consequence of the idealistic practice of taking the intent for the act, which is, of course, facilitated by the corporate culture where the intention and the act are purposely split between the "deciders" and the agents. If so, the lie may be intrinsic to the corporate culture.

    People to Wall Street: "LET OUR MONEY GO"

    by hannah on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 03:50:05 PM PDT

  •  ...but it does work (13+ / 0-)

    Look at the Obama spending myth.  He oversaw an explosion of government spending the likes of which we've never seen before!  Nope, spending is essentially flat under his watch.

    Well then the government has become bloated with all the expansion Obama has forced upon it!  Nope - in fact the number of public employees has dropped substantially.

    It works.  With Fox News blaring these lies over and over and over again they get embedded in the narrative and it becomes almost impossible to get them out.  Romney spend Memorial Day blasting Obama for hollowing out the armed forces and not utilizing the military properly and the next week a poll comes out showing vast support for Romney among the military.

    I could list a dozen, a hundred more.  They work because they have such a vast system of enablers.  Even if every single journalist jumped down Romney's throat the second he strayed from the truth he would just stick to Fox (where journalism is strictly prohibited).  It's a reality bubble so thick the truth can't seep in.

  •  Nasty Tone To Romney's Criticism Of Obama (10+ / 0-)

    Understand that he has to differentiate himself from Obama and he has to negatively characterize him. That is politics. There is a harsh and stern tone when he does it though in addition to the fact that the charges are usually distortions.  When voters actually start focusing on the candidates, there are many who like Obama but would be willing to vote for Romney who will be turned off by this.  He is not running for the GOP nomination anymore where the contest was to see who could demonize Obama more.

  •  Doubt This Is Anything About Romney Per Se. (6+ / 0-)

    The entire rightwing message evolves simultaneously as it is issued from central control.

    The entire lot of them broke into extensive lying with the election of Obama which was the launch of the Republican 2010 contest. It became their dominant messaging as CU was decided.

    I don't see any daylight between Romney and any of the rest of them, pols or pundits, in that.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 03:58:25 PM PDT

  •  Mitt doesn't lie by accident. (7+ / 0-)

    He is told to lie because it wins elections.

    Wouldn't you say so?

    According to the Tea Party, there are three kinds of Conservatives: "Those who can do math and those who can't."

    by Pluto on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 04:04:44 PM PDT

  •  I am biased. (13+ / 0-)

    I support President Obama.

    I know politicians lie. Exagerate, bend and twist the truth.

    However, Mitt Romney's lies are glaring and the man comes off in so many negative ways. Rarely, have I seen someone so eager and desperate to be president.
    Like I said, I am biased, yet Mitt seems to have this aura of wanting to be president so much so, that it is visable in every aspect of his demeanor.

    Is it just me, or does this guy project a need to be president more so than past candidates?

    I cannot help but think that Mitt could care less about governing as president, but is more entranced with the mere thought of being President of the United States.

    It is if he were running for class president. It feels juvenile.

    "We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." Louis Brandeis

    by wxorknot on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 04:06:19 PM PDT

    •  I am not biased. Mitt Romney is not one of (7+ / 0-)

      anything that resembles human.  I see the President's
      downfalls but by far and large this President is one man and not backed by the evils that brought this country
      to the war on women, and other issues.   WE are not sitting in the oval office and have no clue what pressure or even threats are made on this president but we do have a voice at the voting booth so this is a no brainer to me.  Romney is surrounded by other aliens of money on the brain and heart and a liar who speaks nothing but lies could NEVER be trusted.  That is not Obama's record.  Dissappointed, yes.  We will always have disappointments but  to deliberately even remotely compare Mitt to the president is ridiculous.

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 05:23:03 PM PDT

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      •  My intention (3+ / 0-)
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        was not to compare. You are correct, there is no comparison between these two men in any way shape or form.

        I am proudly biased for President Obama. Not so biased though that I can't see through the lies of Mitt Romney.

        "We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." Louis Brandeis

        by wxorknot on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 06:24:07 PM PDT

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    •  It's not just you (1+ / 0-)
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      Is it just me, or does this guy project a need to be president more so than past candidates?
      He's getting smarmier and smarmier by the day, imo.  His stiff, automaton physicality, the nervous giggles and weird lip smacks irk me to no end. Wtf is up with the lip smacking???  Ugh.

      Rmoney is a nasty liar who feels absolutely entitled to have the presidency.  

      It's something he has wanted for a long time and he'll be damned if some "colored boy" can have something he covets so dearly - a position he feels he "deserves" to have just because he wants it.  

      Rmoney LUSTS after the presidency. He salivates for it.  He wants so badly to attain more than Daddy ever had. It's so obvious. He is pathetic. ...and truly dangerous.

      The Party of Hate is revolting

      by Orlaine on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 08:28:50 AM PDT

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  •  Rachel discussed this blatant lie... (11+ / 0-)

    yesterday on her show... she consistently calls him what he is, a bald-faced liar.

    “For the first time in two decades, Osama bin Laden is not a threat to this country.” President Obama 1/24/12

    by BarackStarObama on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 04:38:56 PM PDT

  •  Has there been a list of all the lies told? (1+ / 0-)
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    A list, with links and explanations, would be a good tool to have.

    Of course, it would need to be added to, as Mitt seems to not be able to tell the truth.

    I wonder how many lies there will be until November.

    Peace, Hope, Faith, Love

    by mapamp on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 04:40:24 PM PDT

  •  if i tell 30 lies (4+ / 0-)
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    and I do it with a straight face, and with conviction, the natural human instinct is to assume that most of them are true.

    After all, who tells THAT many lies?

    No one.

    At heart, our default position as humans is trust.

    Mittens is relying on that heavily.

  •  unfortunately, Romney isn't (3+ / 0-)


    Al Gore, internet. John Kerry, deserter. yada yada.

    the point is, people watch for who is on the attack (and think they are winning) and who is always on defense (and think they are losing) and a narrative forms around the ebb and flow of these things.

    we don't live in a culture which values truth very highly, which I'm sure most here have noticed. Romney is a former governor, multimillionaire and now the Repub nominee. people don't give a crap if he lies, really. not the American people, anyway. they just want someone who can make Congress act. and it's a tough sell to say that person is Obama, as he has a demonstrated history of having a difficult time with Congress.

    there's a lot of calculation going on here and there. demographically Obama is in the better position, but he needs to be on the attack just as much and as fiercely as Romney. especially with the economy basically stuck idling in traffic, as it appears to be now. consecutive months of basically zero job growth and it won't matter much what comes out of either of their mouths.

    Think of me what you will, I've got a little space to fill. - Tom Petty

    by itsbenj on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 05:07:51 PM PDT

  •  We got the real Slick Willie right here. (6+ / 0-)

    That would be Slick Willard Romney. He thinks he's gonna lie and tap dance right into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
    Listen up, Slick. That ain't the way the game is played.
    Somehow, some time before November, the media is going to tire of this.
    You gotta have something. Dance and lie for five more months?
    No. Not gonna happen. You try that, they'll turn on you.
    That's right.

  •  Good (6+ / 0-)

    He's going full-on teabagger.  He's getting nastier and nastier.  That is a really slanderous lie he cooked up there.  People aren't going to like a sore loser like Mitt.

    Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

    by yet another liberal on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 05:23:47 PM PDT

  •  Investments include an element of risk (4+ / 0-)
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    Dirtandiron, eXtina, Pluto, Lefty Ladig

    Some succeed. Some fail. Mitt might need a reminder of the old adage - "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".

    from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

    by Catte Nappe on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 05:24:57 PM PDT

  •  You've covered it MB, So for fun Rachel puts.. (8+ / 0-)

    ..puts it together the way she does.
    First factoid: Several of Romney campaign donors ran companies (Acuspere & Sperics Inc & Evergreen Solar) which also took taxpayer money, went under without EARTH SHATTERING BREAKING NEWS! - on Faux. That's one thing..

    ..another thing is that even Darryl (witch-hunt) Issa with fox "news" gave up on Solyndra as a means to attack Obama. And that's saying something.

    So to watch Romney repeat a story that is an excerpt from a book written by a right wing nut job and lie without the slightest compunction should make a mark in history if there is any fairness in journalism left imo.

  •  He understands that a lie repeated often (2+ / 0-)
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    OnlyWords, Dirtandiron

    enough become truth to the human mind, which actual fact will not be able to replace in most cases. It works so he does it.

    "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

    by Lily O Lady on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 06:16:03 PM PDT

  •  Thanks (2+ / 0-)
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    eXtina, Orlaine

    The more people that talk about Mitt's Lying the better

  •  The problem is he's not talking to we the rational (5+ / 0-)

    He's talking to that huge swath of America that thinks that it is an obscenity for a person of color to occupy the Whitehouse. It doesn't matter if it's true to these knuckle-draggers.  The lie will never die.  If we keep arguing against these lies rather than calling them what they are these dumb-bunnies will do it to us again.

    You have the right to remain silent. If you waive that right you will be accused of class warfare.

    by spritegeezer on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 06:42:34 PM PDT

    •  geezer, what is logical, and what is not is in the (0+ / 0-)

      brain of human genetic evolution?  "The lie will never die."

      I disagree.  The lies are piling up on a death pyre.  No one has a guarantee of an "afterlife".  I'm satisfied if I live to contribute any words worth reading, be it today, or tomorrow.

      Remaining silent is a learned skill.  My parents did not consider this a value worth passing on.

  •  The Traditional Media. (2+ / 0-)
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    Why in the world would they want to aggressively seek out truth and point it out? Philosophers' never die wealthy...unless they started out that way. These people are in business.

    Fuck Big Brother...from now on, WE'RE watching.

    by franklyn on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 06:50:28 PM PDT

  •  Is it a lie to not know the truth, but to claim it (0+ / 0-)

    ...anyway, as it must be true?

    It's philosophical hairslipping, I submit, but one could argue that Team Romney simply doesn't care whether it's true or not, but reads the report in the way that give the least credence to the Obama team, and so says what they want to believe to be true.

    Me, I consider not caring about the truth of a statement worse than knowing it's not true, but that's me....

    "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." - Thomas Jefferson

    by rfall on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 06:54:29 PM PDT

  •  Mitt Romney killed a woman (0+ / 0-)

    At age 21.

    And I don't even have to lie about it.

    •  True. A tragic accident. The repulsive fact is (1+ / 0-)
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      that if Obama had experienced the same auto accident, republicans would have - long ago - been labeling him a murderer and dragging all sorts of innuendo, lies and conspiracy theories along with it.

      "Evil is a lack of empathy, a total incapacity to feel with their fellow man." - Capt. Gilbert,Psychiatrist, at the end of Nuremberg trials.

      by 417els on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:06:46 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Michael Grunwald @ Time finds origin of the lie (5+ / 0-)

    Grunwald deserves credit for finding the original of this lie about the Inspector General testimony - a Rightwing crackpot who writes crackpot books.

    Grunwald writes:

    It was a line near the end of Romney’s ad that caught my attention: “The Inspector General said contracts were steered to ‘friends and family.’” That sounded like news. I’ve spent two years in stimulus-world, and I had no idea an inspector general had said that. I asked the Romney campaign for documentation, and it produced a Newsweek article asserting that Energy Department inspector general Gregory Friedman “has testified that contracts have been steered to ‘friends and family.’”

    Except that Newsweek article was an excerpt from the book “Throw Them All Out,” written by Peter Schweizer, a right-winger who has served as an adviser to Sarah Palin’s PAC, edited one of Andrew Breitbart’s websites, and written a slew of books portraying liberals as pond scum. Not exactly a disinterested source. And it turns out that the inspector general never testified that stimulus contracts were steered to friends and family. He said his office was investigating whether stimulus contracts were steered to friends and family. So far, it hasn’t confirmed that any were.

    Romney lies with such facility you wonder if it isn't pathological and what could we expect if the country goes nuts and elects him.
  •  It's not just Romney. It's the Republican Party (1+ / 0-)
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    and it's billionaire puppet-masters.

    "The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handles." Subterranean Homesick Blues, Bob Dylan

    by psnyder on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:15:37 PM PDT

  •  Modern propagandists face a different reality (1+ / 0-)
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    In history, propagandists had an easier time of it. Today, they face instantaneous refutation of their lies.

  •  catapulting the propaganda (2+ / 0-)
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    foucaultspendulum, Lily O Lady

    as GW Bush used to say.  That's what Romney is doing.  He is a lying sack of crap.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:27:16 PM PDT

  •  If repeating a lie doesn't turn it into the truth, (0+ / 0-)

    then what does?

    all morals are relative, but some are more relative than others.

    by happymisanthropy on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:53:34 PM PDT

  •  It's not that Romney is a lying sack of... (1+ / 0-)
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    Think about this for just a sec. Romney got a group of reporters together. Took them on a long bus ride then gave a speech on government handouts. He opens the speech with a big fat lie. Now it does takes some big fat gonads. It doesn't take brains which is exactly what I would like for my president to have.

    Doesn't opening with a big fat lie tell us something more?

    My 2 cents.

    Be involved!

    by ecthompson on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:57:41 PM PDT

    •  Another question. Why the mystery of where he was (0+ / 0-)

      taking them on the bus?  The reporters weren't told where they were being taken.

      It was a Willard Snipe Hunt.

      "Evil is a lack of empathy, a total incapacity to feel with their fellow man." - Capt. Gilbert,Psychiatrist, at the end of Nuremberg trials.

      by 417els on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 09:52:06 PM PDT

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  •  His lying makes me ill... (0+ / 0-)

    Isn't lying a sin for Mormons?  

  •  From time to time I really wonder... (3+ / 0-)

    Romney is such a vacuous, empty and clueless man.  He's been on his mission to have "his turn" in the oval office for years.

    He's flighty and fluttery.  He smiles and chuckles at inappropriate things.  He's terminally insincere.  

    He reminds me of a dog who spends his life trotting through neighborhoods, hiking his leg on flowers and bushes and trees and plastic flamingos and tricycles.  With abandon, he urinates on whatever captures his attention at a given moment.  The world is his, to use as he wants...blissfully oblivious that his pissing habits are recognized by all.

    What if he is actually unaware that he constantly lies
    ?  Is that possible?

    "Evil is a lack of empathy, a total incapacity to feel with their fellow man." - Capt. Gilbert,Psychiatrist, at the end of Nuremberg trials.

    by 417els on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 10:43:53 PM PDT

  •  Waiting for "How do you know rMoney's lying?" ad. (0+ / 0-)

    Clip: rMoney claim 1.
    Tapper: 'Simply false!'

    Clip rMoney claim 2.
    Politifact: Pants on Fire!

    Rinse and repeat for 24 seconds.

    Finish with: "How do you know rMoney's lying?  His lips are moving."

    Rotate the lies to make 3-4 30 second spots.

    After you run them a month or so, everyone will think "Liar" when they see a rMoney ad.

    Same strategy for Rove's Pac + others (even better, make the commericials about Billionaire's Anti-Obama Pac's Ads, just lump them altogether and make them explain why they're not the same lying sacks of sh**).

    You hear, D SuperPacs?  MoveOn?
    BO shouldn't do it, and he shouldn't have to.  but it must be done.

  •  LIAR ROMNEY IS!! (0+ / 0-)

    like any republican since and including nixon, the only way republicans have gained office is to lie and obfuscate with smoke and mirrors. also, they invented dirty (and i mean DIRTY) smoky back room chicago style republican tricks and the current voter suppression laws. ALL of this has been the ONLY way for them to get into seats of power.

    america IS shamed to have such machiavellian politics that are the republicans' hallmark. they need to be stopped in most instances from destroying our democracy!

    if we democrats stick together stronger than glue, we CAN and WILL stop the republicans' unamerican agendas

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