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Okay, I get that seeing Scott Walker and most of his creepy crew sleaze back into office with a wink at their rich friends and a sneer at the people of Wisconsin, but can we stop with the OMG IT'S OVER mantra?

I live in Wisconsin, and I have to suffer the assholery of Walker, too - even more than most, as he's already slashed benefits I need (not want; need) - but I still feel like there's a big picture some people are missing.

Allow me to make a few points on this below the fluer-de-Kos...

First and foremost, I did say "most" of his creepy crew. "Most", as in, John Lehman, come on down! You're the next contestant on Be The Biggest Thorn In Scott Walker's Side! So, if the Democrats hold onto their majority in the WI State Senate in November, look for Walker to make his pinched, annoyed face a lot come the legislature's next session in January.

But of course, the rest of the election in Wisconsin was a bit of a drubbing.

So what?

Let me ask you a question: do you think for one single second that the moneyed interests backing Scott Walker think they've won? Do you think they're popping the champagne and resting on their ill-gotten laurels?

That's what I thought.

I might as well link now to lao hong han's excellent diary, which details a lot about the achievements made along the way to this recall, in addition to a valuable and fascinating history lesson about recent goings-on in Wisconsin politics. I'll be chewing much of the same turf.

So, let me make a modest proposal: Winning in the recall was not the end-all be-all. It would have been the icing on a very deserved and delicious cake, but it wouldn't even have been the largest slice, IMHO. To me, this process has been about resistance. It's been about letting everyone know that there are a million of us (at least) in Wisconsin alone who are no longer going to cooperate with the encroaching corporate hegemony.

This is why the uprising in Wisconsin and it's kin outside the state (OWS being the most glaring example) are so important. They are the true, pure, grassroots, visceral reaction by millions: to stand up and say, "Oh, hell no!"

But we lost! No, defeatist inner voice, we didn't. Game ain't over. This is the beginning, not the end. This is how it's always been. This is how we get what We The People want. No benevolent officeholder or group of officeholders have ever given us anything.

No, we've always had to rise up and take it.

Over and over, we've risen up against injustice in one form or another, only to get beaten down. Like the recall. Over and over and over - until we don't. Until we get so big, so loud, so bold and brave and unbowed that we end up with the 40 hour work week, or universal suffrage, or something like equal protection under the law, or a recall that was our right to demand, and so on.

Segregation didn't end (well, de facto segregation still hasn't) because the courts suddenly decided out of the kindness of their hearts that enough was enough. They were forced to. We were forced to confront our ugly, dark, vile practices, and we didn't like what we saw in the mirror, a mirror that had been held up over and over, smashed over and over, it's shards driven into the hearts of the brave women and men who defied injustice over and over and over until those brave people won.

That's the way it's always worked. With all due respect to our friends working within the system, whose valuable contributions should never be discounted or forgotten, the kind of dramatic change many of us seek will only happen via popular struggle. Because that's the only way it has ever worked. Resistance. Struggle. Activism. Direct action.

You know, the thing we started doing 16 months ago in Wisconsin. The thing people all across the nation started doing en masse with the Occupy movement.

We lost a few races in a recall election. That doesn't invalidate what was done to get there, nor does it mean such methods are worthless. History tells us otherwise. Reality tells us otherwise.

Nobody ever changed the world by accepting it the way it is. I don't accept a world that allows the Koch brothers to buy elections, and I will fight it until it ends or I do (after which I expect someone to step right into the place I was standing and take up the struggle).

We haven't lost. They haven't won. How do I know this? I'm still standing, and so are you.

UPDATE: Oh, wow. And here I was expecting a few friendly pats on the head for effort and optimism, followed by a rapid disappearing act. Thanks for the Rec List, folks! I really want this message out there: That this isn't the big "Lose". That even if we'd won, it still isn't the big "Win". That we need to build on the popular movements that this recall was a product of. Big love to all my fellow Kossacks.

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    by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 07:49:05 AM PDT

  •  I agree (26+ / 0-)

    It's losing a battle not the war - that's American politics.

    It seems every time there's a major victory for one party(2006 for Dems and 2010 for Repubs) that some people start crowing about the 'death of the party!!!!'

    That's not how our system has been working. You just have to pick yourself up and prepare for the next round.

    Power-Worshipping Fascist

    by campionrules on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 07:51:26 AM PDT

  •  not me (9+ / 0-)

    I think we all lost...there are no real winners in this...Walker's seeming victory will only benefit himself and those who promoted him.

    "In the depth of winter I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer."- Albert Camus

    by valadon on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 07:54:47 AM PDT

  •  It cost them a lot of money and favors (15+ / 0-)

    Those are, hopefully, irreplaceable.  
    They can't spend the money twice.  And people get tired of giving favors.

    It cost Walker a lot to keep his office.  Let's see if "they" think it's worth it in the long run.

    If you want to know the real answer: Just ask a Mom.

    by tacklelady on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 07:57:55 AM PDT

  •  Excellent diary! (11+ / 0-)

    The point is we must persevere. The right does not back down after defeats. That's one reason they're so strong today.

    And in fact, we still hold a lot of strong cards in our hand. So there's absolutely no reason to give up the game.

    "The smartest man in the room is not always right." -Richard Holbrooke

    by Demi Moaned on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:03:21 AM PDT

    •  And here's Paul Krugman in a similar vein (19+ / 0-)

      From this morning:

      Still, my rule for myself is, never give up. All seemed lost politically in 2004; it wasn’t. Then a lot of people, including, I’m sorry to say, Obama, slacked off after 2008, believing that the other side would have to compromise.

      It’s never over, for good or bad. Keep on plugging.

      "The smartest man in the room is not always right." -Richard Holbrooke

      by Demi Moaned on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:18:14 AM PDT

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    •  sure (5+ / 0-)

      theres no reason to give up. but that doesnt change the fact: this was a complete, utter defeat -- a repudiation of the entire recall process, and more or less a confirmation of the fact that wisconsinites prefer walkers agenda. period.

      •  'Complete, utter defeat' is too strong (4+ / 0-)

        We suffered a decisive loss on one front in a very wide-ranging war for the soul of this country. The loss was disheartening. And if the results had been the reverse it would be an occasion for joy and celebration but not triumph.

        "The smartest man in the room is not always right." -Richard Holbrooke

        by Demi Moaned on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:30:44 AM PDT

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        •  i think "failed completely" is quite fair (7+ / 0-)

          the recall failed completely. 3 of the 4 senate recalls saw crushingly huge margins of victory. walker won by a significantly larger margin than he did the first time. obviously there will be future elections in wisconsin and in the united states. but as to this one, there is basically nothing positive to be taken from it. voters in wisconsin either repudiating collective bargaining or didnt care enough about it to go out and vote.

          if barrett had prevailed by even one vote, everyone on dkos would be going on about how it was a huge, decisive, crushing victory that will change everything. well, we didnt win by one vote -- we lost by a gigantic margin, and somehow this is supposed to be a weirdly positive non-loss?

          take the lumps and move on.

          •  Saving the senate is not "failed completely" -- (3+ / 0-)
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            I really feel for your hard heart.

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            by rubyr on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 12:10:36 PM PDT

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          •  Without the 2 recalls Walker would have a (1+ / 0-)
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            special session this summer and he may be indicted before there is another. And the Dems could win back more seats in both houses. There never was a chance to win the other 3 seats in the recall but it sure had a calming affect on Fitz. And now Mrs. Fitz has a minority leader in the family.  

            We also learned that Romney and his money have a lot of work cut out for them in Wisconsin.

            The big money that just knocked us to the ground is not going to like it when we get right back up. Listen for the groan.

      •  I'd say it was much more the former... (3+ / 0-)
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        ... than the latter.

        The exit polling made it clear that Wisconsinites as a whole really don't embrace the recall process. That, plus the GOP change in the law that prevented college students who had just moved home for the summer from registering there if they were already registered at the college, made the difference between Governor John Doe keeping his position and losing it.

        Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright, April 2008:
        BO: ‘You know what your problem is?’
        JW: ‘What is that?’
        BO: ‘You have to tell the truth.’
        JW: ‘That’s a good problem. That’s a good problem.’
        http://bit.ly/rl6UqP

        by tbetz on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:35:10 AM PDT

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        •  Recall legitimacy needed to be part of the message (5+ / 0-)

          We're falling flat on messaging.

          •  No money to message. (4+ / 0-)

            That is the problem.

          •  Exactly! Otherwise why would Democrats (2+ / 0-)
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            vote for Scott Walker but say they strongly support Obama and will vote for him.  ??  

            As Gov Dean said that today, there has been something going on for that to happen.

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            by wishingwell on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:57:07 AM PDT

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            •  recall purists (5+ / 0-)

              I just dont get those people.   They will vote for a neo fascist like Scott Walker because they oppose recalls on "principle."  Well what I oppose on principle is union busting, of setting one group of the workers against the other, of raping public lands for the Koch brother's benefits, for drastically cutting education in order to give tax cuts to billionaires.  What I oppose on "principle" is defaming hard-working teachers, nurses, city workers, and other ordinary people, and resenting those who have decent medical and pension plans, and applauding a fascist governor who tries to take them away from those that have it, because you dont have it.  

              That is really "class envy", setting one side of the middle and working class against the other.  Instead of resenting the plutocrats who wont give you a decent wage or pension, its easier to resent your county worker down the street whose in a union which fought for those benefits for years.

              Im sorry but I dont have any sympathy for recall purists, nor do I have much respect for the people of Wisconsin whe fell for corporate propaganda at best, or are guilty of just plain hate of their neighbors at the worse.

              Im not in the mood for any of this rah rah stuff today.  A very ugly man was just re-elected, and very evil forces won the day.  Im sorry Im not in the mood to celebrate our "victory."

              •  Bravo , I agree, It makes me angry at those who (4+ / 0-)

                would not approve of the job Walker is doing but voting for him because they do not approve of recall elections.

                I think there are some anti union folks out there who do not normally vote for Repubs, some anti union Democrats and that pisses me off.  We see that around here and we realized they are jealous of the good pay and benefits of union workers and hate teachers.

                One woman justified it by saying that she does not approve of teacher tenure as it is too hard to get rid of bad teachers.  And she says she is tired of being losing jobs but teachers and union workers never seem to lose their jobs.

                It is a lot of jealousy.

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                by wishingwell on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:28:06 PM PDT

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        •  Yes Howard Dean was saying that because he said (3+ / 0-)
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          if 18 pct of Walker voters are Obama supporters , that tells me that some of them simply did not approve of recall elections or have other agenda that must pertain only to Wisconsin and Recall elections.

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          by wishingwell on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:55:57 AM PDT

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        •  Not Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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          The people of Wisconsin voted roughly the same as they did last time.  There were fewwer third party candidates this time and they went to Walker.  Barrett got roughly the same vote as before.
          Walker's vote total were really fairly low.  For a Republican in an off-year election with no significant third party the norm is higher.  In fact the 40+ million did not appear to help him much.
          Secondly, the Wisconsin Democrats really need to expand their base.  Voters vote for their reasons not ours.  The showing in the Hinterlands was terrible.
          Finally, never use the term union.  Their real target is "working people".  The Unions grew to power because they represented "working people"  and they were trying to help the "workers"

      •  Horseshit (6+ / 0-)
        theres no reason to give up. but that doesnt change the fact: this was a complete, utter defeat -- a repudiation of the entire recall process, and more or less a confirmation of the fact that wisconsinites prefer walkers agenda. period.
        Not even the Walker win says that Wisconsinites prefer his agenda. Almost all of the swing vote that broke Walkers way was simply a reaction to the recall. There's a reason nearly 20% of yesterday's Walker voters said they will vote for the President in November.

        This was not an endorsement of Walker's agenda. Not even close.

        The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

        by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:36:59 AM PDT

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        •  i disagree (4+ / 0-)

          so when we win, it proves that our side is right, but when they win, the people voting for them actually think we're right, too, they just dont like the process, so they vote republican? come on.

          if we want to set up some weird logical trap where a win is a win and a loss is also a win and we massage the results to say anything we want, then fine. good luck learning from that.

          the fact is we lost because too many democrats sat out. if they cared enough to vote, we would have won. but they didnt, and we lost. that is a loss. it is a total loss -- none of this "they didnt believe in recalls business."

          •  Okay (5+ / 0-)

            So they lied to the pollsters? To what end?

            Let's assume for argument's sake that "too many democrats sat out" is the reason why Tom Barrett didn't win. So why did they sit out? Well, when asked, they said it was because they didn't like the recall.

            And again, I fail to see how over a million votes to recall Scott Walker equals an endorsement of his agenda.

            I've never made the argument that winning an election means the winning side is right. Not even for my side. Winning an election means you've swayed the fearful, emotional, huddled masses for this cycle only.

            The "rightness" of a position is a moral or ethical question. I'm talking about what works. And what works - what has always worked - is popular struggle. It's how we got, well, everything not already codified in the Constitution, and even that was changed because of popular struggle.

            The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

            by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:03:22 AM PDT

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          •  I do not think Democrats sat out, there was a huge (5+ / 0-)

            turnout for both parties. But 18 pct of Obama voters voted for Walker. And some of that 18 pct were Democrats, I would guess quite a bit of that 18 pct.

            So something deeper is going on, either an opposition to recall elections or they are anti union or anti Teacher Dems.

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            by wishingwell on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:59:15 AM PDT

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            •  I go with (3+ / 0-)
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              anti state unions.
              saw it NJ., And still see it. Hard.
              NJ will go for BO again.
              And Christ Christie is way too popular to be believed.
              Most NJ pols drop to 30 percent approval in one day of being elected.
              Not CC. It blows my mind.

              People are going to have to accept that many Democrats support private unions, not state unions. And we can cry about that all we want. that is not going to change.

              We consume the carcasses of creatures of like appetites, passions and organs with our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear. Robert Louis Stevenson

              by Christin on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 11:34:05 AM PDT

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              •  Yes I see that with local Democrats, we get (4+ / 0-)

                into debates with the teacher union bashing Democrats at our local meetings.   There are people who of both parties sadly who are jealous of and resent union workers , especially now when so many of them are out of work.

                Reagan would be pleased to see that his demonizing of unions grew and spread.

                There are some Democrats who really loathe Teachers and Teacher Unions yet have no trouble with administrators in schools making six figures because they are not union. The Big money is going to administrators in many schools.

                If people want to bash schools,leave the teachers alone and look at adminstration salaries and perks then.

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                by wishingwell on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 11:39:19 AM PDT

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                •  Unless you aspire to sainthood (1+ / 0-)
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                  Why would anyone pay for a college degree and begin a career in teaching?  Maybe they'll bring back nuns.  Oops too radical for the Republican faithful.

                  •  My sister teaches a high school course for (2+ / 0-)
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                    future teachers who plan to major in Education in college. They do internships and shadowing teachers and more.

                    I feel sorry for her as I wonder how the enrollment in this class will fare as time goes on.  And she mentors new teachers as well and promotes teaching as a career and in southern state to boot. It cannot be easy.

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                    by wishingwell on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:24:35 PM PDT

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                •  no one i know hates teachers here. (1+ / 0-)
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                  no one.
                  they do despise the administrators which earn ridiculous salaries.
                  those same people who despise admins do not like the fact that teachers get tenured here in NJ no matter how hobad they may be, and then it's impossible to remove them from the classroom.
                  just because someone does not like some of what the unions do, does not mean they hate teachers. that's not fair.
                  i know there are some people who don't like teachers.
                  they are ridiculous.
                  i think most have of those dislikers don't like some policies.
                    maybe i'm blind. teachers are in my family.

                  We consume the carcasses of creatures of like appetites, passions and organs with our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear. Robert Louis Stevenson

                  by Christin on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 05:27:36 PM PDT

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          •  People were interviewed who expressed (1+ / 0-)
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            this view.  What, they were on drugs and didn't know what they were saying?

          •  You seem to have a problem understanding (2+ / 0-)
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            that the Senate went to the Dems and that is very important in terms of what would have happened in a special session had Dems lost the Senate.

            Why can't you grasp this? Five senators or one senator--it doesn't matter, they still won back the Senate. It is really not hard to understand at all.

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            by rubyr on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 12:17:06 PM PDT

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        •  Howard Dean agrees with you as I heard him (1+ / 0-)
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          debating this on Morning Joke today.

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          by wishingwell on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:58:06 AM PDT

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        •  Only an idiot would vote Walker & Obama. (1+ / 0-)
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          If you vote for Obama for president because you believe in his policies for the country, than why in hell would you vote for a governor that would prevent the president from implementing those policies in your state? There you'll be, staring across the border into Illinois watching  people with jobs rush to them on high speed rail.

          Divided government is what seems like smart politics to a dumb voter.

          •  Or someone grossly misled. (1+ / 0-)
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            Elections are not about informed people making rational choices. Like marketing, it is designed to create uninformed people making irrational choices.

            The right has done such a good job of manufacturing false equivalences that most voters saw little difference between Walker and Barrett. So they went with Walker, because they don't like recalls.

            The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

            by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 03:01:14 PM PDT

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      •  All politics is local and this recall was too. (2+ / 0-)
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        It's a drag, but many people objected to the recall because they don't want the money wasted on elections constantly.  You may not see it that way, but they did.  There are other factors at work that put into question the idea that wisconsinites prefer Walker's agenda.  

  •  i am discouraged by i remember this ... (6+ / 0-)

    People's power takes time but will succeed ....

    i remember a history lesson where the British used violence against Gandhi's salt satyagraha and they beat up hundreds of protestors and thought that they "WON" ... little did they know that TRUTH was taking one step forward in the journey to VICTORY

    Today morning, i felt a little low that Obama's re-election chances now hangs by the thin thread but we will rise and we will win ...

    •  that 'victory' was a loss (2+ / 0-)
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      because it revealed the violence necessary to oppress the people. A free and fair election is quite different

      •  We Don't Have Free and Fair Elections So I'm Not (5+ / 0-)

        sure what you mean.

        First and foremost, global ownership is Constitutionally permitted to campaign here essentially unrestrained, as long as they don't donate directly to campaigns, and the mainstream public square is constitutionally ceded to global information warlords and freed from responsibility or obligation.

        So we have free elections in the sense that we have free markets; the people are technically able to make their choices but they have almost no impact on what the choices are.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:28:36 AM PDT

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  •  This diary brought a slight tear to my eye (3+ / 0-)
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    sort of like watching Bluto give that great speech in Animal House.  (teasing)

  •  losing is not winning. look, we lost (9+ / 0-)

    unless people want to totally abandon the concept of winning and losing, our side lost. completely. walker trounced barrett, and the one senate seat we took back was by a thin margin, will deliver a state senator to a legislative body that wont be in session until after the next election, and is in a district that has been redrawn and will scew heavily republican in future elections.

    maybe dems will win a meaningful majority in the fall, but that will be then, and has nothing to do with the fact that this is was total, unredeemable defeat. its one thing to stay positive and keep a long view, but its another to just lie to ourselves.

    •  You missed the point, then (7+ / 0-)

      Fixating on on recall election is a bigger lie to ourselves than the one you describe.

      History teaches us that popular struggle is how we win. It's how we've always won. It's not the point that one election didn't go our way; it's that the fight isn't even close to being over. In the big picture, grand scheme of things, this was a minor battle in a much, much larger war.

      Resistance works, as long as you keep resisting. Saying we Lost and giving up is the only way to lose this, and it's self-defeat. Elections are only one increasingly less effective tool for change. Focusing on them as the end-all be-all is ignoring the most effective means we have at our disposal.

      The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

      by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:44:37 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  im not missing the big point (4+ / 0-)

        if we won, it would have changed everything. but when we lose, this election no longer matters, because its part of some epic struggle, and ultimately doesnt mean we cant prevail in the future? i think thats a disingenuous way to frame things. im not saying hope is lost forever. why are people inferring that? im saying this particular election was a total loss. it failed, and will not reverse any of the damage that walker has done. if anything, it will make matters worse.

        again, if people want to redefine winning and losing, they can.

        •  No (3+ / 0-)
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          badscience, Phoenix Woman, New Rule
          if we won, it would have changed everything. but when we lose, this election no longer matters, because its part of some epic struggle, and ultimately doesnt mean we cant prevail in the future?
          That is not the frame. The frame is, even winning wouldn't have been the "Win". The war goes on regardless, and the war will need to be fought in the streets.

          The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

          by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:05:49 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  You have said the same exact thing about (2+ / 0-)
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          Phoenix Woman, lotusmaglite

          four different times in this thread. What are you up to? You don't even acknowledge the hard work that went into the Dems reclaiming the Senate. You seem to not understand the significance of it. What are you trying to do here? What is your purpose? Do you want everyone to throw down and say Oh my god, we lost, we lost, we won nothing!!! We won't because that is not true. Try to think a little here and listen to what people are saying to you and try to shift your mind to the possibility that you may have an agenda that even you are unaware of.

          "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

          by rubyr on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 12:23:27 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  So how come the Senate now has a Democratic (2+ / 0-)
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      majority?

      •  because we just barely won 1 of 5 elections (0+ / 0-)

        this was set up as the marquee political matchup of the year outside of the november elections, and has been a flashpoint proxy battle over left/right ideology for almost two years. the result of that battle is that we lost every single contest by gigantic margins save for one, which was won by a couple percentage points, the result of which is that it might prevent a summer legislative session that may or may not have happened (to say nothing of the fact that the seat will definitely be lost when its next up, due to redistricting). this is barely a silver lining -- maybe its nickel or cast iron at best.

        rejoice over the crushing loss of five out of six elections, including the most important one, if you want.

        what a great day for democrats, right? you guys all woke up thrilled this morning i presume?

        •  Pop quiz (0+ / 0-)

          Name a Republican pickup in the 2011 and/or 2012 Wisconsin Recall Elections.

          Bonus question: How many seats did the Democrats lose?

          The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

          by lotusmaglite on Thu Jun 07, 2012 at 06:48:34 AM PDT

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  •  The money will move on now, (1+ / 0-)
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    the rich have won their battle. Lord knows what Scotty will cook up in reaction to no more friendly publicity.

    and I wait for them to interrupt my drinking from this broken cup

    by le sequoit on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:32:17 AM PDT

  •  The "private" sector, (2+ / 0-)
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    lotusmaglite, citizen dan

    where ex-politicians charge The People through the nose to deliver the services of people who owe them for all The People's money tossed their way while those politicians were in office.

    and I wait for them to interrupt my drinking from this broken cup

    by le sequoit on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:39:07 AM PDT

  •  There's a basic question then (3+ / 0-)
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    Sunspots, lotusmaglite, NoMoreLies

    How do you return to the strategies that built a movement that ended up getting narrowly channeled into  the recall effort?  I'm going to suggest that remobilizing the mass public movement will not be as readily accomplished as switching it off to run the recalls was.

    The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges. ~ Anatole France

    by ActivistGuy on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:44:47 AM PDT

    •  You are right. (3+ / 0-)

      It won't be anywhere near as easy. This diary and the comments that have followed are proof enough of that.

      Step one, IMHO, is convincing people that yesterday wasn't the goal - not even if we'd won. The opposition feels the same as I do. They don't think they've won, either. They're out there, right now, turning to the next battle. So, I/we need to convince people we need to be there to meet them.

      We don't need to make this up as we go along. We don't even need to look all the way back to the sixties. We build the movement the way we always have, from the labor strife starting in the late 19th century to the labor strife of the 30's, 40's, 50's 60's... not to mention the suffrage movements, the civil rights movements, the solidarity movements, the list goes on.

      We start organizing more demonstrations. Throw a wrench into the works wherever we think will have the greatest impact. Protest. Get louder.

      I know it sounds like idealistic melodrama, but it works. It's actually very rational and very pragmatic.

      The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

      by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:22:13 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  This is a great diary. (4+ / 0-)

    They got us down, but don't ever count us out.

    WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For May: Martyrs of the San Diego Free Speech Fight, Spring 1912.

    by JayRaye on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:03:51 AM PDT

  •  I guess there's something to be said for trying (2+ / 0-)

    to find the silver lining of the club the oligarch are using to beat you.

    Romney - his fingernails have never been anything but manicured.

    by Pescadero Bill on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:04:24 AM PDT

    •  It's not so much about a silver lining (2+ / 0-)
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      ...as it is about meeting that club again and again in the streets with steely-eyed determination.

      I get that it's discouraging. I'm discouraged too, but more because people are upset that elections increasingly don't matter, yet they are poo-pooing a means of change that is proven to work regardless of the money and power the opposition has. Over and over it's worked.

      But I'm not going to stop, because, well, it works. Even if I have to meet that club in the street literally, I know it works.

      The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

      by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:26:51 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Walker's special session plans are dead... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...but I guess that's apparently bad news to the why-don't-we-all-commit-suicide crowd.

        Visit http://theuptake.org/ for Minnesota news as it happens.

        by Phoenix Woman on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:47:57 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  huh? (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          lotusmaglite, Christin

          theres no "why-don't-we-all-commit-suicide crowd." more like a few people willing to admit that this was a loss, not an amazing win. we could all look back at the 2004 election and note that if kerry had won, we'd never have obama. does that make kerrys loss into a great victory? of course not.

          if people want to use this defeat as some sort of pep talk, feel free. just dont pretend its something else.

          its possible to have a non-extreme or exaggerated view of events.

    •  Control of the State Senate... (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
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      ...is one heck of a silver lining.

      Remember how Walker wanted to call a special session this summer to push through his anti-recall bill and other legislation?

      That's not going to happen now.

      Visit http://theuptake.org/ for Minnesota news as it happens.

      by Phoenix Woman on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:47:02 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Did the other side give up when the New Deal (8+ / 0-)

    passed? No.

    When the Supreme Court finally stood up for the people, not for freedom of the rich to screw anyone under supposed "freedom of contract"? No.

    When Griswold v. Connecticut and Roe v. Wade passed? Hell no.

    They kept fighting for the right of the rich to screw us.

    Well, we need to keep fighting for our rights. No one's ever just given them to us. Many people died to give us what we have now. I'm willing to keep fighting to not only keep what we have, but get more.

    Sure, take a day or two to recover. If you're a little burnt out, go to Netroots Nation and see all the wonderful people working there. Stick to the community diaries for a while if you like (I hear there might be even cuter animals than this there, but I doubt it).


    Upside-Dandy with Toy by ~Windthin on deviantART


    Baby Ground Squirrel Rescue 5 by ~Windthin on deviantART

    We need to keep going. If a nearly-forty woman with significant health issues can do it, you damned sure can, Wisconsinites and supporters.

  •  We've got the senate and soon... (4+ / 0-)

    The Feds and State will have Walker...in cuffs. I'm looking forward to a perp walk. This bastard deserves the full treatment. I don't want to hear that he showed up to turn himself in. I want to hear that he was picked up and dragged out of his office by the authorities.

    That will be another in a series of oncoming wins!

    While not all republicans are bigots, all bigots are republicans.

    by Maximilien Robespierre on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:19:24 AM PDT

    •  That would be pleasant. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      rubyr, Phoenix Woman

      Watching his cow-eyed confusion as he faces the law.

      "But - but - but... I'm rich! I have rich friends! This isn't fair!"

      What a day that would be...

      The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

      by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:28:31 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Was it over when the Germans bombed... (7+ / 0-)

    Pearl Harbor?

    Hell no!

    If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

    by HairyTrueMan on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:26:40 AM PDT

  •  We won this headline you will NOT see today: (11+ / 0-)

    Walker Uses 'Mandate'
    to Call Special Session

    Right-to-Work Bill and Privatizing
    of Public Employee Pension Fund
    Lead Legislative Agenda for Action

    Senate Majority Leader Fitzgerald
    Boasts That Open Meeting Law
    Will Not Stop Attack on Workers

    etc., etc., etc.

    And let's be clear that we would not have won back the state Senate, pushed The Other Scotty (Fitzgerald) out of power (he is not going to enjoy "surviving" his recall to just be one of the minority now, is he?), and pushed back against this headline today, had we not had the statewide races.

    We would not have won in Racine without the turnout from the attention to the statewide race, and specifically the turnout that came out for visits from Tom Barrett and Dem legislators -- and Mahlon Mitchell, with the sizeable African American community there.

    We would not have won in Racine had the Kochs and Hendricks and the other billionaires been able to spend less money on the statewide race to target more money on one state Senate race.  Ask me, I know, because I live in the Darling district targeted -- overwhelmed -- by the big money last year, when we did not win that one.

    That was stage one, when we won enough seats to stop the mining bill and more.

    Yesterday was stage two, when we won back the majority to stop what Walker represents.

    And that always was the goal.  And we won!  We know that what will not happen may be hard for others to see who are not here, who got excited a week ago, who dissed us for "losing" recalls last year, who were with us for a day but will be gone tomorrow from these diaries, and do not know what was ahead for us.

    But we know we won, because we know what we will not see ahead for us.

    Oh, and we picked up many, many new voters yesterday -- more than 50,000 new voters in Milwaukee alone who did not vote in 2010.  Thanks, Mayor Barrett!  Glad to still have you as my mayor, proud of you for never letting others redefine you, because you're always fine with me.

    Now, on to stage three: legislative elections in fall.

    "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

    by Cream City on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 09:32:44 AM PDT

    •  Some very good points here! (3+ / 0-)

      I feel a little better. Let's hope those new voters in Milwaukee show up in November, they'll be needed.

      •  Well, we may need styrofoam pillars (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        lotusmaglite, bdizz

        again to lend faux majesty to the Dem convention!

        And free concerts!  and free food! with the occasional, actual political speech.

        Well, it worked in 2008. . . .   Although I'm not sure that ripping off Wisconsin's state motto of "Forward!" will have the resonance now to work as well as it did to rip off Dolores de Huerta's "Si, Se Puede!" for the farmworkers.

        It would be nice to find out that the new voters don't need a bag 'o' tricks and glitter and gimmicks and glitz.  We'll see.

        "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

        by Cream City on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 02:12:24 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  If this "loss" and "win" proves anything... (6+ / 0-)

    it is that we need to stop being mesmerized by the pretty bauble of just winning Governor chairs and, as much as I love the current one, POTUS's.  

    Senate and House Chamber elections for every level of state and federal  government happen every two years. EVERY TWO YEARS, DAMMIT!!

    Find out who your local progressives are, encourage them to run, give them your time or money if you have it, then get everybody you know to vote. EVERY. DAMN. TIME.

    That's the only way we're gonna win anything, anywhere in this era of Citizens (Despised) United.

    •  Amen!! <---- And I hate that word! (3+ / 0-)
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      I mean, I was making a different point, but I still love this. Ralph Reed is a psychopath, but he was right about one thing: It's better to a ton of local officeholders than one big one.

      The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

      by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:04:15 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Thanks for this, especially the history lesson. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite

    I still don't have the right to equal pay, decades after the first feminist wave.  I still have to defend being a feminist!  Black people still live in an openly racist country.  Native Americans still can't prosecute rapists, or control their land, or practice their religion.  Hispanic people have to prove they're citizens.  Things are better than they were, but they'll stop improving if we quit because it's not good enough.

    I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

    by I love OCD on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:16:19 AM PDT

    •  Darn tootin' (0+ / 0-)

      We're just not done. Maybe we never will be, and that's fine by me. Sometimes the change we make by popular struggle is slow, tedious, and aggravating (race, gender, class inequality), and sometimes it's comparatively quick and brutal (Vietnam, stopping GHW Bush from expanding the Gulf War, monkeywrenching the WTO in Seattle in '99), but it always, always works so long as we keep at it.

      The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

      by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:23:53 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The only fights worth fighting ... (3+ / 0-)
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    The only kinds of fights worth fighting are those you are going to lose, because somebody has to fight them and lose and lose and lose until someday, somebody who believes as you do wins.  In order for somebody to win an important, major fight 100 years hence, a lot of other people have got to be willing - for the sheer fun and joy of it - to go right ahead and fight, knowing you're going to lose.  You mustn't feel like a martyr.  You've got to enjoy it.  --I F Stone

  •  I always tip these "look-on-the-brightside" (5+ / 0-)

    diaries after we weather a setback like we did yesterday. If they're well-written and thoughtful, I rec' 'em, too.

    I really want to hammer home the point that Republicans have done so well, have racked up so many legislative victories and come to dominate the public discourse these last 30-40 years, because they don't get rattled by losses; after a defeat, they keep right on driving. They're relentless. Progressives, we get more commonly get fatalistic after a loss, and throw up our hands. It's a habit we need to unlearn.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:24:59 AM PDT

  •  Nailed it with this: (3+ / 0-)
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    lotusmaglite, mrsgoo, SaveDemocracy
    This is the beginning, not the end. This is how it's always been. This is how we get what We The People want. No benevolent officeholder or group of officeholders have ever given us anything.
    Americans have a very short attention span, and are used to instant gratification, so the challenge will be to convince people that the fight can be won, and not to give up.

    "Maybe this is how empires die - their citizens just don't deserve to be world leaders anymore." -Kossack Puddytat, In a Comment 18 Sept 2011

    by pixxer on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:40:48 AM PDT

  •  Thank you for this. (2+ / 0-)
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    lotusmaglite, mrsgoo

    I was desolate this morning.  And I'm a Californian in a solidly Blue area.   I can't imagine how I'd feel if I were a Wisconsin citizen.

    Reading what you've written here has helped a lot.  

    If all reading this were also feeling disconsolate, read this again.  :)

    FORWARD!

    "I'm glad I don't know how it feels to vote to withhold basic human rights from someone else." DavidW-DKos

    by sockpuppet on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:56:01 AM PDT

  •  I think of the Civil Rights movement (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite

    and how someone like John Lewis, after being beaten badly many times and jailed just for asking for the right to vote, and for all the hell he experienced; he did not give up. It was a long, hard struggle and in the case of the Civil Rights Movement, very dangerous and life threatening.  

    The Freedom Riders were putting their lives on the line and they suffered many beatings and many threats and never gave up.  

    Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

    by wishingwell on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 11:07:04 AM PDT

  •  I'm glad you guys are optimistic, down here in (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite

    Nebraska it's disheartening to observe so many Conservative victories across the nation in light of recent local attempts to put gay rights to a vote regarding a recent city ordinance.

    I hate living in a conservative state and, lately, really wonder about the future of our nation. I just wonder...at what point in a plutocracy do the people take up arms? I never, ever, thought I might actually be alive during an American civil war, but lies and money seem to rule.

    "You don't have the right facts!"~My Tea Party Neighbor

    by Therapy on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 11:45:00 AM PDT

  •  I agree to a point (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite

    There are some good things: yes, control of the senate is a huge plus, and as someone mentioned, there's probably zero chance of a special session being called to allow them to do more mischief this year.

    In a weird way it was sort of neat to see the incredible turnout yesterday. I'll leave it at that.

    But as a wise and progressive friend of mine said (very much sarcastically) to me yesterday "today will decide everything in the state decisively and forever".

    Hardly! And that's good and bad for us here in Wisconsin. We live to fight another day, and while there's going to be a large segment of the population that voted yesterday who will go back to being apathetic and disengaged with politics, there will still be two rather large groups who essentially hate what the other stands for. Hate is not too strong a word for it, and I don't know what we're going to do about it. That's what's depressing to me, and to be honest it would have been the same if Barrett had won, as much as I wish he had.

  •  Here's a little song on the topic: (1+ / 0-)
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    lotusmaglite

    David Byrne

    What a Day That Was

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

    by rubyr on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 12:29:42 PM PDT

  •  This right here... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite, mrsgoo
    Segregation didn't end (well, de facto segregation still hasn't) because the courts suddenly decided out of the kindness of their hearts that enough was enough. They were forced to. We were forced to confront our ugly, dark, vile practices, and we didn't like what we saw in the mirror, a mirror that had been held up over and over, smashed over and over, it's shards driven into the hearts of the brave women and men who defied injustice over and over and over until those brave people won.
    This is a gorgeous piece of writing. Beautiful. Amazing. I'd like to put it up on Facebook with an attribution to you.

    Poverty = politics.

    by Renee on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:09:05 PM PDT

  •  Meh (2+ / 0-)
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    jaym, lotusmaglite

    A loss is a loss, and this was a bad one. Think back to the rallies and protests in Wisconsin at the capitol. Occupying the building itself and holding vigils/demonstrations.

    Yesterday's election winners get to write that history now, and it will be this: those protesters were up in arms about nothing, and their hysterical rantings and ravings were without meaning.

    I don't think I can stomach too many more people trying to put lipstick on this pig.

  •  Outfuckingstanding (2+ / 0-)
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    lotusmaglite, We Won
    To me, this process has been about resistance. It's been about letting everyone know that there are a million of us (at least) in Wisconsin alone who are no longer going to cooperate with the encroaching corporate hegemony.
    Damn straight

    Regulate banks, not vaginas

    by MinistryOfTruth on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:38:10 PM PDT

  •  Of course you're right. Leading by example. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite

    Not every state can hold a recall.

    But the point was made, loud and clear, and there's more to come I hope.

    (From Maryland, land of the Lazy Blue Machine).

    Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

    by dadadata on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:39:51 PM PDT

  •  Dumb coverage on NPR this morning. // (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite

    Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

    by dadadata on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:41:44 PM PDT

  •  Yeah... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite
    It's been about letting everyone know that there are a million of us (at least) in Wisconsin alone who are no longer going to cooperate with the encroaching corporate hegemony.

    "They are an entire cruise ship of evil clowns, these current Republicans"...concernedamerican

    by Giles Goat Boy on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:54:36 PM PDT

  •  Tipped & Recc'd for local Cheesehead perspective. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite

    Well, I'm still bummed out at the Gov. result and defeat margin,  but this is good writing.

    "..The political class cannot solve the problems it created. " - Jay Rosen

    by New Rule on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 02:20:33 PM PDT

  •  Dear Koch Brothers et al... as you read this diary (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite

    you will clearly see that we have 'just begun to fight'

    and we aren't giving up America that easily, either, so go stuff it where the sun don't shine.

    "You've got to be an optimist to be a Democrat, and a humorist to stay one" - Will Rogers

    by KnotIookin on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 02:29:42 PM PDT

  •  That 36% of union support (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Simian

    for Walker remains troubling.   That may represent a group of realists  with some long term vision.   I'm in California and was stunned at the easy victory of pension reform propositions in SanDiego and San Jose.   There has been a degree of overreach by public unions across the country over the past couple of decades and unaffordable public employee benefits have begun to cause problems that can't be denied  in municipalities, counties and states.    As long as there is some source of money, unions can demand a bigger piece of the pie, but when the money dries up, and you try to tax people who don't have pensions to pay for public pensions for government workers who are better paid  than private sector folks, you will have a problem.    Smart union people  around the country have seen this and have  quietly been making concessions to try to keep the whole thing afloat.  Because the thing is,  paying a little more for a pension,  or a health care benefit beats the hell out of suddenly having neither which can happen in the event of a bankruptcy.  

  •  Here's the subtle victories... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lotusmaglite

    I live in Madison, in the heart of the storm, and maybe that is why I expected this race to be closer than it was.  Whatever I hoped the outcome might be (thanks DKos for keeping my spirits high during the day), when i got home from work at about 9:30, I certainly didn't expect the first words I heard from Lawrence O'Donnell to be "Scott Walker has won the recall election." I figured this would be a close race, not called little more than an hour after the polls closed.  Wow...talk about a faceplant in front of the eyes of the nation!  The Senate recalls had been called too, except WI-Sen 21, but they were pretty sure that one was going to hold too.  I talked with my mom, a poll worker up in Green Bay, and she was worried that this would just embolden Walker and it would be game on for him and his crew.  I admit that I felt the same.

    But lo and behold the next morning, Sen 21 swung the other way.  I'm sure there will be a recount, but if it holds, the Dems get the Senate.  Senator Fitzgerald may have survived his recall, but lost leadership majority leader role, which he basically used to make him king of the Senate.  THAT in itself is a cause for celebration.  And Walker no longer has a rubber stamp for whatever he wants to do, or The Koch brothers and ALEC tell him to do.  Another win...Wisconsin is a little safer.  Again...this assumes that the talley holds, but still...good news.

    So...the right wing will congratulate themselves on their victory and feel vindicated and want to move on with whatever they want to do.  They will make a big deal of the Democrats big public fail.  They will say that the Dems overreached with the recall and paid the price for it (probably some truth to that, sorry to say).

    LET THEM!!! We have proven that we won't stand for it.  We have been awakened...and will remain so, especially since Walker remains in office.  But I remember this.  During the beginning of this fight, we had 14 Senators leave the state so that there could not be a vote on  Walker's budget bill.  That was every Democrat in the Senate.  We now have 17, if the newest results hold. In a body of 33, that's a change of almost 10%...quite a swing through recalls.  That is a quite a victory.  So, let them celebrate and think that we are beaten.  I'll take the subtle victory, and continue the fight.

    •  Madtown resident, as well. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Grabber by the Heel
      They will say that the Dems overreached with the recall and paid the price for it (probably some truth to that, sorry to say).
      The above reminded me of something I forgot to mention upthread to a few of the people demanding that we lost (you're obviously not one of them, but I wanted to respond to the "some truth" part of the above quote as it was the only part I had a problem with).

      It goes a little something like this: Quick, name the Republican pickup.

      That's it. Tell me which seat the Democrats lost. Where did the Republicans strengthen their position?

      As you correctly point out, the answer is none and they didn't. They lost control of the Senate. And while this isn't the point of my diary, it's one for the scoreboard Kossacks to answer: where was the loss?

      The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

      by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 05:51:22 PM PDT

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