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  •  Gosh a DVD Would Be Nice! (6+ / 0-)

    My grandmother had a bust of FDR on top of her radio.  This is wonderful.

  •  Change really did happen (12+ / 0-)
    President Obama to Netroots Nation: 'People who love their country can change it. And you have.'
    Here's some change I can believe in:
    NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The nation's largest health insurer promises to continue offering some key mandates of health care reform -- such as coverage of adult dependents up to age 26 -- regardless of how the Supreme Court rules on the health care law....

    Ahead of the Court's decision, UnitedHealth Group (UNH, Fortune 500) said it will uphold several mandated provisions that have already gone into effect since health reform passed in 2010.

    Among them, the insurer said it won't charge co-pays for preventive services, won't impose lifetime dollar limits on members' policies and will allow members to add their adult children up to age 26 to their plans.

    The company -- which covers 38 million people -- also said it won't rescind insurance coverage of individuals who become ill, except in cases of fraud.

    "The protections promote broader access to quality care and contribute to helping control rising health care costs," Stephen Hemsley, CEO of UnitedHealth Group, said in a statement.

    "These provisions make sense for the people we serve and it is important to ensure they know these provisions will continue," he said.

    http://money.cnn.com/...

    “The only thing that happens in an instant is destruction... but everything else requires time." - First Lady Michelle Obama

    by FiredUpInCA on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 04:24:17 PM PDT

  •  It would have been nice (5+ / 0-)

    If he had managed to stop by Wisconsin for a rally before the election. That might have promoted some change.

  •  Yeah, but there's more to this story. (5+ / 0-)
    On Saturday evening, during the final plenary session at this year’s Netroots Nation conference, the comedian Elon James White mocked journalists for dwelling on progressive disaffection with Obama. “Hey, media, fall the fuck back,” he said. “Yes, I can critique the president ... But at the same time, I can also support him against the crazy folks who are trying to destroy the damn country.” The crowd cheered and applauded.

    A few minutes later, White introduced a video address from Obama. It wasn’t on the official schedule and had been poorly publicized during the previous days; half the people I spoke to didn’t know it was happening. This time, the clapping was sparse. Reports of liberal disillusionment, it turns out, weren’t entirely exaggerated.

    snip

    Even Kos weighed in.

    I asked Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas if he was worried about the level of despair at the conference. He replied, “The administration should be worried about the level of despair here.” Like many attendees, he brought up the failed recall election in Wisconsin. The Republicans, he pointed out, sent all sorts of surrogates to the state to campaign for Gov. Scott Walker. “Obama stayed away,” he says. “Why? Because he would be embarrassed if he lost. I’ll tell you what. If he shows that he’s going to fight for the things that I care about, I will fight twice as hard for him.” And if he doesn’t? “Then I’ll vote for him,” says Moulitsas.
    Houston, we DO have a problem.  Something "we've been saying for a long time"

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/...

  •  it is historic that a President, (13+ / 0-)

    a sitting President, addresses Netroots Nation.  Say what you will about how he has or hasn't done enough to merit the label of Progressive....he's listening to us, and is encouraging us to help him lead the country forward.

    Obama/Biden 2012.  Together forward, or divided we fail.

    "in the fleeting time we have on this earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame -- but rather, how well we have loved" B.Obama

    by one love on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 04:35:35 PM PDT

  •  I am curious (4+ / 0-)
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    to know why this was not published earlier.

    •  Well, we were all traveling yesterday ... (3+ / 0-)
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      so no one was around to post it yesterday, but as noted, there was a diary on it, so it was available, just not on the FP.

    •  I saw it posted in comments (and maybe in (0+ / 0-)

      a diary, too?) yesterday.  

      By waiting until now to post it on the fp, it gave the kvetchers more than one opportunity to weigh in negatively about the President.  Lucky us.

      Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

      by SottoVoce on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 06:52:39 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  do you think (0+ / 0-)

        They were as negative towards clinton?

        How would netroots treat clinton?

        •  I don't know. I am only judging from (2+ / 0-)
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          the comments here tonight about the President.  It disappoints me that once isn't sufficient to weigh in negatively about the little video.  The same people posted nearly identical insults when it appeared in the comments yesterday.  As with the Republicans, it appears that some peoples' need to cast aspersions at President Obama is never sated.

          Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

          by SottoVoce on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 07:26:38 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  yessir, Mr. President (4+ / 0-)

    "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

    by Sybil Liberty on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 04:37:18 PM PDT

    •  so what will (7+ / 0-)

      netroots nation do in a second term for Obama?

      What are their plans?

      they never really talked about it.

      we have MOVED under obama. we will continue to move because obama will tilt the supreme court towards sanity.

      i see so much potential in an obama second term.

      beyond obama's second term we could have liz warren taking the lead to sanity :)

      •  Who is netroots nation? From the little I've (1+ / 0-)
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        seen, it's Kossacks. If I'm wrong, please let me know.

        I thought NN grew out of DKoss, but most of the board members are east coast office dwellers. With a sprinkling of west coast office dwellers.

        I have my own personal preferences I plan to work on in coming months to correct what I see as deficiencies at present.

        If I'm wrong about the NN board, please let me know. Yes, I have communicated with Adam B about this and will do so more in the future.

        More women are needed on that board, to start. Adam B does not disagree with this, last I heard.

        •  It's much bigger than Kossacks (0+ / 0-)

          Someone estimated that 1/3 of the audience was DK-based.  I hadn't thought about it, but that feels right.

          You continue to overvalue the importance of the board in the whole scheme of things, compared to our staff and volunteers.  And I will continue to note this.

          •  Thanks for the response. So who are the 2/3? (0+ / 0-)

            Whatever my opinion of the board's importance, why isn't there more information on here about the staff and volunteers?

            Just how diverse are they? The board is easy to see. If 80-90% of the staff are in east coast or west coast megalopolises big urban areas I'd think that was not representative.

            I realize I haven't read everything ever written on here, but an annual overview would be helpful, I think.

            And I don't mean to attack the organization just because it's there. I believe there are a lot of problems in this country that committed progressive actions could ameliorate.

            Adam, again, I really admire you for having the strength and integrity to make decisions you know not everyone will like. Thanks.

  •  Change? CHANGE? (7+ / 0-)

    That takes Chutzpah.

    When a President calls for the investigation of Wall Street, instead of defending those Bankster Predators as "Savvy Businessmen" - THAT will be Change.

    When a President leads the charge against the Wall Street Predators, breaking them up and arresting them for their fraud, instead of hiring Three of them as his Chiefs of Staff -- THAT will be Change.

    When a President declares war on job outsourcing / foreign labor abuses, instead of passing more Free Trade Job Outsourcing (Columbia Free Trade Deal, 2011) THAT will be Change.

    When a President publicly exposes the Patriot Act for what it is instead of publicly calling for Rethuglicans AND Democrats to support its renewal - THAT will be Change.

    When a President refuses to appoint & re-appoint the same Wall Street Predator Supporters (Bernanke, Geithner) and instead selects those opposed to Wall Street's War against the 99% - THAT will be Change.

    When a President publicly supports the champions of the 99% instead of supporting the likes of Lieberman -- THAT will be Change.

    When a President orders the DOJ to investigate abuses of our Constitutional Rights perpetrated by the police, rather than having his Federal Agencies involved in coordinating such crackdowns (Occupy) -- THAT will be Change.

    When a President refuses to support secret Kill Lists and decry such practices as against the morals of a Democratic Society -- THAT will be Change.

    When a President sides with the 99% instead of telling Wall Street's Predators he is the only one between them and the pitchforks -- THAT will be Change.

    When a President refuses to engage in the bullshit of tapping General Electric's Outsourcing CEO for advice on "jobs" -- THAT will be Change.

    When a President directs HIS DEA to focus on narco terrorists and stop wasting $$ on going after individuals exercising their rights as approved by their States -- THAT will be Change.

    When a President decides to investigate abuses perpetrated by our government / military instead of pursuing the whistle-blowers exposing such bullshit -- THAT will be Change.

    Until then, we'll have Chutzpah You Can Believe In.

    The 1% Feast on Results while the 99% Starve on Rhetoric They Can Believe In.

    by Johnathan Ivan on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:00:04 PM PDT

    •  Yes, the commanding heights of the economy, (4+ / 0-)
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      the financial sector, continues to be the tail that wags the dog.

      To be fair, this is a global phenomenon. But to be even fairer, it would be better if the U.S, rather than Iceland, Greece and hopefully France, were to take the lead on this overarching issue.

      The frog jumped/ into the old pond/ plop! (Basho)

      by Wolf10 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:07:03 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  you will certainly see (2+ / 0-)
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      change under Rmoney....you'd better believe it.

      "in the fleeting time we have on this earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame -- but rather, how well we have loved" B.Obama

      by one love on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:07:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  There are no Romney supporters here and to imply (2+ / 0-)
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        otherwise is seems an attempt to stifle criticism from a legitimate political quarter---the left.

        The frog jumped/ into the old pond/ plop! (Basho)

        by Wolf10 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:11:14 PM PDT

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        •  I'm not implying that. What I'm saying (7+ / 0-)

          is that if you're not finding enough Change under Obama, you can bet your bootie that you'll find plennnnty of Change under Rmoney.  

          Let's continue to pressure Obama to keep up the change we need in this country....as he is asking us to do.  And let's work our asses off to see that we don't lose this election.

          "in the fleeting time we have on this earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame -- but rather, how well we have loved" B.Obama

          by one love on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:14:33 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Thank you for the clarification and i apologize (2+ / 0-)
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            for jumping to the wrong conclusion.

            The frog jumped/ into the old pond/ plop! (Basho)

            by Wolf10 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:16:20 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  How? (2+ / 0-)
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            Let's continue to pressure Obama
            How exactly do you "pressure" a politician if said politician can count on your vote no matter what?

            Where's the pressure?

            We know what Wall Street's pressure is:  Money.  Go against them, you get zilch.  They don't accept pretty rhetoric or excuses - they demand and they get RESULTS.

            You know why the 99% lose?  

            They keep their powder dry.

            The 1% use theirs.

            The 1% Feast on Results while the 99% Starve on Rhetoric They Can Believe In.

            by Johnathan Ivan on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:27:47 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

      •  Actually, no, I won't see Change Under (1+ / 0-)
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        Romney.

        I'll see honesty.

        He'll support the 1% and be damn proud while doing so.

        I take that back.

        Under Romney, there won't be any pretty rhetoric excusing his actions.

        So, yes, there would be Change under Romney.

        The 1% Feast on Results while the 99% Starve on Rhetoric They Can Believe In.

        by Johnathan Ivan on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:25:40 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  So he's got your vote for "honesty"? (1+ / 0-)
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          Serious question.

          Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

          by SottoVoce on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 06:54:34 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  No. He would never get my vote because (0+ / 0-)

            I disagree with the economic policies he would advance on behalf of the 1%.

            I do not give my vote to those who will advance the 1%'s continued economic liquidation of the 99%.

            The 1% Feast on Results while the 99% Starve on Rhetoric They Can Believe In.

            by Johnathan Ivan on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 08:46:42 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

        •  You think Romney is more honest than Obama? (0+ / 0-)

          What an idiot.

          Master Blaster runs Bartertown

          by citizenx on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 07:32:17 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Well now. (0+ / 0-)

            Care to explain to me how Obama is honest with respect to the following:

            Candidate Obama promised to join those marching for workers' rights.

            President Obama brought before Congress and got signed another Free Trade Job Outsourcing Deal with Columbia (2011) - (candidate Obama was opposed to Free Trade Job Outsourcing without worker protections;  Perhaps Columbia is a workers' paradise these days, who knew?)

            Obama, prior to being President, criticized the Patriot Act.

            President Obama, on the other hand, publicly called on Congress to renew the Patriot Act (using the GOP talking point "to keep us safe").

            President Obama, when talking about "saving social Security" got passed a Social Security Payroll Tax "Holiday" - making up the lack of revenue from the General Fund, thereby exposing Social Security to attacks that it adds to the deficit.  It doesn't take much imagination to see where this will lead.

            President Obama, elected under the mantra of Change You Can Believe In, has had THREE Chiefs of Staff from Wall Street Banks.  Explain to me how you have any faith that Wall Street Predators would ever go against the very institutions they hail from and probably desire to return to after their government "service"?

            Candidate Obama decried the influence of lobbyists;  President Obama appointed a guy with 15yrs+ of lobbying expertise (a vice president of Monsanto) to a senior specially created position at the FDA.  WTF?

            Candidate Obama talked about the need to protect Whistle blowers.  How's that working out under President Obama?

            Candidate Obama was hailed as a "Constitutional Scholar".  President Obama maintains secret Kill lists.  So much for the Constitution and Transparency, eh?

            Candidate Obama publicly opposed the idea of mandatory private insurance;  President Obama not only supported it but also lifted nary a finger in support of the Public Option - of course, President Obama did meet in secret with Big Pharma.  Remember Cheney and his secret meetings with Big Oil?  Secret meetings with Industry are still wrong.

            And on it goes....

            Let me know if you feel any of the above is not true.  

            The 1% Feast on Results while the 99% Starve on Rhetoric They Can Believe In.

            by Johnathan Ivan on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:50:45 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  Here's my answer: (1+ / 0-)
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            Yes - I believe Romney is more honest than Obama.  His agenda is obvious.  He doesn't try to hide it.  He doesn't pretend to be a "progressive".  He's up front about who he is and what he will do.

            Romney will advance an agenda of the following major components:

            Tax Cuts

            Advancing Interests of the 1% / Corporations

            "Small Government" IE (less regulation, appointing industry insiders to head up 'Regulatory' agencies)

            Railing about the Deficit, as part of an overall strategy to attack and reduce our already pathetically meager social programs

            And Romney won't lie about it.  If he passes a tax cut he won't pretend he was "forced".

            If Romney shrinks a government agency - he won't pretend he had no choice.

            If Romney increases draconian police powers, he won't pretend he had no choice.

            From an economic and police powers perspective, the major difference between Obama and Romney is that the former tells us there is no other way and the later proudly proclaims it's the only way.

            PS:  Let's look back on the Bush years.

            Did Bush pretend he was forced to invade Iraq?  Someone would have filibustered something?

            Did Bush pretend he had no choice but to pass the original 1% tax cuts?

            Did Bush pretend he was forced to sign the Patriot Act?

            Did Bush pretend he was forced to torture / indefinite detention?

            No.

            Bush cheered those efforts all the way.  Unabashedly.

            King George was God-awful.

            But you have to give him credit:  He stated what he was for and he pursued it.

            Obama states what he is supposedly for yet, miraculously, it's usually the opposite that happens.  

            The only difference between Obama's agenda and that of Romney is in the social issues realm.  And God knows the 1% love social issues - it's what keeps the rabble in line.

            The 1% Feast on Results while the 99% Starve on Rhetoric They Can Believe In.

            by Johnathan Ivan on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:10:59 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

    •  Amen. (0+ / 0-)

      The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

      by accumbens on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:14:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Transcript of video - (7+ / 0-)

    Obama:  "Hi everybody.

    It's hard to believe this is already the 4th Netroots Nation of my presidency.  That's like 200,000 news cycles on Twitter.

    First and foremost, I just want to thank you.  In four years ago, we came together because we shared a simple belief that people who love their country can change it.  And you have.  I know it hasn't always been easy, I know the petty political fights in washington can be frustrating, and believe me, I know that.  But I hope you'll look back and think about the fact that everything you did, step by step, day by day, has helped bring about the changes we fought for.  Changes like the health care reform bill we passed after a century of trying.  Reform that will finally ensure that in the United States of America, no one will go broke just because they got sick.  That means millions of stories like this one."

    September 2009, Englewood, California
    Thomas and Nathan

    Thomas: "I'm constantly haunted by what's going to happen when there's no more coverage.  What's going to happen if I have no more job to provide the insurance. What's going to happen when he hits the next cap and can't access the medication, can't access the treatment.  That to me has been the hardest part.

    [Two years ago Nathan's son Thomas had already hit a lifetime cap for coverage in two insurance plans.  He was 6.]

    Nathan's mom: "When I found out we had a lifetime cap, I sat in the car and cried.  Because I knew we were going to hit it, and I didn't know how we were going to survive, how we were going to pay for all of this.  So it's constantly having to think ahead three steps and figure out what is our next option to be able to provide care for our son."

    [Two years later]

    Thomas: "We knew that if something didn't get passed we were going to be in a lot of trouble.  Our constitution and the founding documents of our country talk about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and without health, you don't have any of that.  So the Affordable Care Act has improved our quality of life knowing that we don't have to deal with the cap any more means that we can focus on the best care, and the proper care for his condition.  He can get the care he needs and isn't going to face the complications that arise from not getting treatment because that could endanger his health or even his life.  Before when we were dealing with the cap with my son [unintelligible] cap may seem like a lot but when you have health care costs from cancer or MS or in our case hemophilia, you can burn through that pretty quickly.  It was maybe a thousand dollars for the medication a couple of years ago, now it's three thousand dollars for the day.  That cost increases every year.  This is not an issue that's really confined to families like my own with kinda crazy chronic serious issues, it's something that runs across the entire fabric of society.  Every kind of family in every town, there's somebody who's got some problem.  And hopefully the protection issues in the Affordable Care Act are gonna give them some benefit."

    Obama:  "And that's just health care.  Change is also doubling down on clean energy.  And enacting historic fuel efficiency standards. Changing our entire trajectory after decades of inaction.  Changes the fact that for the first time in history, you don't have to hide who you love in order to serve the country you love.  Because Don't Ask, Don't Tell is finally over.  Change is keeping another promise I made in 2008.  For the first time in 9 years, there are no Americans fighting in Iraq.  And thanks to our brave men and women in uniform, Osama bin Laden will never threaten us again.  That's just a short list.  I know some of you keep the full list on your blogs.  Feel free to spread it around.

    But we've got a lot more work to do.  Especially when it comes to putting our fellow Americans back to work.  We've created 4.3 million new jobs in the past 27 months.  But we've got to keep at it until everyone who's out there, pounding the pavement, gets a job that pays the bills.  What we can't do is go back to the policies that got us in this mess in the first place.  What we won't do is just cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires by gutting education, and clean energy.  It's time to move forward.= and build an economy where everyone has a fair shot at success.

    At this make or break moment for the middle class, we face our most important fight yet.  And now is the time to dig deep.  Change is hard, but we've seen that it's possible, and as long as you're willing to keep up that fight, I'll be right there with you.  Thanks."

    I'd rather be called a dirty fucking hippy for reading books then to stand on the side that throws books in the garbage. - MinistryofTruth

    by Jensequitur on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:00:13 PM PDT

  •  Great video and nice of him to acknowledge (3+ / 0-)
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    the blogosphere when other politicians have distanced themselves.

    Master Blaster runs Bartertown

    by citizenx on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:08:08 PM PDT

    •  Yup (0+ / 0-)

      no hippie punching during election year.

      •  he didn't "hippie punch" (2+ / 0-)
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        the 3 off years he addressed NN either.

        he had nothing to gain by this address look at the crowd and reaction that are linked above. do you think that any blogger is going to change his stance towards obama based on that?

        my guess is that president obama is the only president you will ever see address a NN crowd and by judgeng by the comments here and the printed reactions i think he wasted his fucking time.

        yet another example of obama reaching out to people that hate him.

        Master Blaster runs Bartertown

        by citizenx on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 05:51:36 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  He's got absolutely unmovable (2+ / 0-)
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          citizenx, glorificus

          opposition on the left and on the right.  He reaches out to both, and gets the same response.  Contempt.

          Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

          by SottoVoce on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 06:56:04 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  I remember concern for the poor. (1+ / 0-)
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    Back when I was getting politically active, DC politicians mouthing platitudes about "fighting for the Middle Class" kind of disgusted me.  The Middle Class was doing fine, back then.  It was the 14%-18% unemployment among Blacks and the borderline malnourished kids of all races showing up to school without much for dinner or anything at all for breakfast that seemed to be crying out for social solutions to individual problems.

    I can't believe that in the past 30 years we've gone from working to provide an opportunity for something better for the least of us to actually fighting to preserve the damn Middle Class for real!

    Obama's message, here, reminds me that, 'he may be less than we'd hoped for, but at least he has a chance to be re-elected.'  

    Rather than, well, you know....

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