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Peace...

I used to believe... I used to think it was completely possible and when President Obama took office, I believed that the old order of "Bombs Away and Pass the Freedom Fries" were over. I think the President tried to make peace in the region (I/P) but simple fact... as much as people say they want it (and I think majorities of people on both sides do want peace - or that is what the polls say.. ) there are some people that simply don't want anything to do with it.

That, whether we like it or not is a fact. Who are some of these people. Well there are good (/snark) folks at Palestinian Islamic Jihad who decided to "celebrate" a kindegarten graduation with the a demonstration on the evils of Israel and the "joys" of suicide attacks and matyrdom operations.

This is what happens when Kindegarten Graduations go bad...

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and:

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We get this:

"It is our obligation to educate the children to love the resistance, Palestine and Jerusalem, so they will recognize the importance of Palestine and who its enemy is," the kindergarten's director said.....

One child, Hamza, said "When I grow up I'll join Islamic Jihad and the al-Quds Brigades. I'll fight the Zionist enemy and fire missiles at it until I die as a shahid and join my father in heaven.

"I love the resistance and the martyrs and Palestine, and I want to blow myself up on Zionists and kill them on a bus in a suicide bombing," he said....

...."At every kindergarten graduation ceremony we focus on the children to represent the role of struggling and resistance in the way of Allah so they will grow up to love the resistance and serve the cause of Palestine and Holy Jihad, as well as to make them leaders and fighters to defend the holy soil of Palestine," one of the teachers said.

Great...

Now... It is important to note that P.I.J. is a second tier party (though there was once talk of merging it with Hamas) - but despite that, it's popularity in Gaza did see an increase due to it's "resistance" to Israel particularly during the recent exchange of cross border fire.

What is discouraging is that this correlates to a recent Pew Poll which found that the Palestinian Territories sympathy for considered "terrorist" groups: Hamas, Hizbollah (61% favorabliilty), and al-Qaeda (28% favorability) was higher than anywhere else (with the exception of a 42% favorability for Hamas in the Territories but Hamas enjoyed higher numbers in both Egypt and Jordan).

And then there is this discouraging fact:

Only a minority of Muslims – and in some cases a very small minority – endorses suicide terrorism in these nations, with one clear exception: the Palestinian territories. Roughly seven-in-ten Palestinian Muslims (68%) say that suicide bombing and other forms of violence against civilian targets can often or sometimes be justified in order to protect Islam from its enemies. Large majorities hold this view in both Gaza (70%) and the West Bank (66%)....

However, the high level of support for suicide violence in the Palestinian territories has not changed over time. And in Egypt, support has actually been slowly on the rise since 2007 – then, only 8% of Muslims said suicide bombing can often or sometimes be justified to protect Islam from its enemies; today, 28% hold this view – the same percentage as in 2006.

Now... is this a typical kindegarten graduation... I would say most probably not. In fact, I would highly doubt it.

THIS is probably more accurate:

That is an image of kids that makes me feel hopeful. Not one where kids are fed hate and the glory of a violent end. On either side... when you teach children to hate (and it does happen in Israel as well), they will grow up to hate. Until this kind of behavior changes how can one expect to see any kind of Peace or agreement.

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  •  It's hard to see the dynamic changing (2+ / 0-)
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    Shawn Russell, downsouth

    until things move forward.

    And that's on both sides--the settler movement promotes a similar mentality.

    The worse it gets, the more resistant to a solution people get.  And vice-versa, rinse, repeat, weep.

    "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

    by Geekesque on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:03:13 PM PDT

    •  Yep - it is a true Catch-22 moment (5+ / 0-)
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      Geekesque, zemblan, Mets102, FG, livosh1

      The dynamic cannot change as long as kids are being raised this way (on both sides). And to change the dynamic kids have to be raised in a different manner.

      One thing, I cannot agree with you about the Settler movement creating a similar mentality. The Settlers (in general) do not teach their kids to blow themselves up and to become martyrs for their cause.

      Some people in that movement do teach hate... and that is a very sad thing. But it is not the same mentality of Kill for glory.

      This statement:

      The worse it gets, the more resistant to a solution people get.  And vice-versa, rinse, repeat, weep.
      is 100% accurate.

      "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

      by volleyboy1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:18:40 PM PDT

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      •  While I agree that the (5+ / 0-)

        Palestinians are more blatant about teaching it, one has to question just what lesson Israeli children learn from the failure to punish or even prevent Price Tag assaults.

        At some point, one would figure it has to stop getting worse on both sides, but so far so bad.

        "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

        by Geekesque on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:31:43 PM PDT

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  •  Israelis have faced this undercurrent (sometimes (1+ / 0-)
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    volleyboy1

    not so under) for decades and have a feeling that peace is something they will never see. This resignation to a reality following decades of on and off peace talks is tragic. Governments will talk endlessly and the average Israeli  - and Palestinian for that matter -see peace as elusive and the plaything of politicians.

  •  Volley we have our differences but I liked this (3+ / 0-)
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    volleyboy1, JNEREBEL, downsouth

    diary very much. Tipped and Recc'd.

    Extremism on both sides is an obstacle to peace. Jewish children deserve to live and enjoy a prosperous life in their homes and frankly be able to sleep at night without fear of being killed in a suicide attack or terrorist attack.

    The same is true for Palestinian children. They deserve to live and enjoy their life in peace without having to worry if they will be bombed.

    But extremism is making the occupation last, making military action last and perpetuating death and violence.

    Let's all just put down our guns for the sake of our children.

    •  I can't disagree with this Shawn (4+ / 0-)
      Let's all just put down our guns for the sake of our children.
      From your lips to G-d's ears (or your fingertips to G-d's eyes in this case).

      I agree with you... the question and the problem is "Who... will put down their guns first". I don't see anyone willing to do that.

      "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

      by volleyboy1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:44:48 PM PDT

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  •  Probably, both sides will have to create real (1+ / 0-)
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    downsouth

    consequences for doing so, or other of the things which poison the air. Neither side has the incentive to do so when they cannot see the other side also doing it, or seeing the consequences of the other side doing it being bargained away on some premise or other. Perhaps an agreement as to consequences which both sides agree they will enforce equally, and in fact do it. In a neutral fashion.

    Neutral and even handed action on a few civil subjects, such as permits, might also be useful, so that law becomes simply law, and not a weapon bent in one set of hands against the other. Something which has meaning and good effect for both sides equally.

    In so doing, both sides will inevitably encounter some problems with things tender to them which they do not wish to surrender. But it does take two to tango.

  •  Thanks for sharing this, volley. (1+ / 0-)
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    volleyboy1

    Very disturbing.

  •  Missed this yesterday. (1+ / 0-)
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    volleyboy1

    Great diary, VB.  It is a subject close to my heart.  Unfortunately my mother-in-law, who is not so close to my heart, is attempting to drive me insane at the moment.  I shall endeavor to reply to this later.

    Tipped and recc'd.

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