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As the daughter of public schoolteachers, I can no longer stand to even look at Scott Walker's guppy face. I'm sorry he's still around.

You would think at some point, conservatives would wake up to the fact that workers can't buy stuff without money. I mean, you can't keep stomping the crap out of the middle class and expect awesome economic growth. That's magical thinking -- a phenomenon not uncommon among Republicans, granted.

Originally posted to Comics on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 06:50 AM PDT.

Also republished by DKOMA, ClassWarfare Newsletter: WallStreet VS Working Class Global Occupy movement, Badger State Progressive, Progressive Hippie, German American Friendship Group, and Daily Kos.

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  •  The attack on public workers is upsetting. (47+ / 0-)

    Esp public service workers.

    But teachers?

    Seriously?

    In the USA we are now going stand for  governors and presidential candidates attacking our teachers?

    Do the American working people even have a clue as to the struggle that was waged to get the children out of the mines and mills and into the classroom?

    If we allow the Republicans to attack the workers who serve our children in the classroom...

    Well...God help us.

    That's all that I can say about that.

    WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For May: Martyrs of the San Diego Free Speech Fight, Spring 1912.

    by JayRaye on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:01:51 AM PDT

  •  You gotta start printing your own cash. (7+ / 0-)

    It's the new quantitative easing.

    Stay Democratic, my friends. -The Most Interesting Man in the World

    by boran2 on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:09:54 AM PDT

  •  Ideology is trumping reality (30+ / 0-)

    How else can you explain close to 1/3 rd of Union households voting for Walker?

    Here in the Deep South, the Unions are virtually non-existent, but a likely majority of State Forestry Commission employees voted for the respective Tea Party Governors in Alabama and Florida.  As soon as Bentley and Scott were elected they slashed funding for their State Forestry Commissions and laid off many of the same employees who voted for them.  

    Once your political or religious beliefs shape your life to the point that you are willing to cut your own throat for an ideology, then you are no longer a rational human being.  You are just an ideologue.  And ideologues inevitably harm themselves and the people surrounding themselves.

    I'll put on my glasses.... and tell you how sweet your ass is. (w/ apologies to Señor Bega)

    by mHainds on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:10:31 AM PDT

  •  Romney Arse (4+ / 0-)
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    shoeless, devtob, vidanto, JeffW

    Is it just me or does the Romney "R" look like a squatting but?

    Ignorance is Curable.

    by skids on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:11:03 AM PDT

  •  You see, here is the plan: (12+ / 0-)

    as soon as we get wages below $1.00 per hour there will be lots of jobs making cheap shit that no one needs for Asian consumers. They won't have any money of course because all their factories will close, but we can loan the money to them so they can inflate their housing market and spend the money they get from increasing their mortgages. What could go wrong?

    We have only just begun and none too soon.

    by global citizen on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:12:46 AM PDT

  •  As a son of a public schoolteacher (11+ / 0-)

    I heartily agree.

    But I think he looks like a carp. Bottom feeder, looking for a fresh nugget.

    Sean Hannity with even deeper stupid.

    I'd rather be a "Tree-hugger" than a "Planet-raper" and a Destroyer of Worlds -- But I'm funny that way. I want a living Earth, not just a living room.

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:13:17 AM PDT

  •  The thing is, workers do buy stuff without money. (9+ / 0-)

    It's called Wal-Mart.  As in cheap shit that is not made here in the USA.  

    Gives them the illusion that they are still doing just fine, when the rug has been pulled out from under them.

    That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

    by concernedamerican on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:13:55 AM PDT

  •  I too am tired of looking at Walker's (10+ / 0-)

    guppy face, and then Rick Scott pops up and he is even worse--my gawd he is like a walking talking skeleton.  

    Here's hoping Walker will soon be indicted and forced out of office so his mug won't grace the news anymore, only his mugshot.  

    "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

    by sfcouple on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:14:51 AM PDT

  •  I hate to say this, but blame California (11+ / 0-)

    This entered the Republican playbook in its current incarnation when Schwarzennegger ran his reelection campaign on the idea that nurses and firefighters were interest groups. The tanking Bush economy obviously didn't help and now it's "let's get money by economically crippling the people who won't vote for me anyway."

    Aaaaarggggh!

    -7.75, -8.10; All it takes is security in your own civil rights to make you complacent.

    by Dave in Northridge on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:15:03 AM PDT

  •  They do not want to grow the economy (14+ / 0-)

    Their behavior is only a mystery if you assume that we all have the same goal of getting people working and getting the economy as a whole growing. (Even Krugman starts with this assumption.)

    We do NOT have the same goal. The 1% and the politicians they have bought do not care. As long as their incomes continue to go up (which they have, at the expense of the rest of us), they do not care what collateral damage is happening to anyone else.

    And they firmly believe that if the rest of us get even more miserable between now and November (and the next November and the next), we will vote against Obama and re-install the Republicans in power so that the top 1% will have an even easier time skimming an even higher percentage of the available wealth.

    They may be correct on that premise and strategy. I hope not, but what I hope doesn't matter much either.

  •  Is trade policy just off the burner for good now? (3+ / 0-)

    Are we just not interested in more jobs stateside, even if it means a rise the price of some goods?

  •  Agenda is misrepresented (13+ / 0-)
    you can't keep stomping the crap out of the middle class and expect awesome economic growth.
    The Goal of the GOP is to virtually destroy America.

    The rich want a Haiti-like set up where there is a very privileged ultra-wealthy class and a slave caste and nothing else.

    Until people understand this the actions of the GOP won't really make sense.

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:19:58 AM PDT

  •  Paul Krugman Zingers (4+ / 0-)
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    ClutchCargo, wesinCA, JVolvo, Icicle68

    A compilation of Paul Krugman's greatest hits

    Reporting from Tea Bagger occupied America

    by DrJohnB on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:21:24 AM PDT

  •  From this Badger - thanks Jen! (nt) (2+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, JVolvo
  •  This circle is only stupid if you're... (6+ / 0-)

    ...not trying to break the country.

    Read "The Shock Doctrine".

    "the tranquilizing drug of gradualism" - MLK

    by 3rdOption on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:27:24 AM PDT

    •  I've read it (2+ / 0-)
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      3rdOption, JVolvo

      One of my faves.

      •  I frequently plug The Shock Doctrine because... (0+ / 0-)

        ...we need as many people as possible to be aware that there is an overt process occurring to create or enable economic crises in the West, so the uppity middle classes of Europe and the U.S. can be brought to heel.

        Academics from the Chicago school's "free" market dogma have built their publishing and teaching careers on this effort, and psychopathic Corporatists are enhancing their fortunes by enacting this ideology, as we type and read.

        This recession was not an accident, it just wasn't as catastrophic as was needed to justify the complete elimination of civil rights, and the abject eradication of the entire social safety net, both of which the Corporatists deem essential for a docile, desperate labor pool.

        China, Indonesia, Mexico, these are the standards that American workers must live up to, to compete globally for the crumbs off the tables of the current generation of super-wealthy oligarchs.

        "the tranquilizing drug of gradualism" - MLK

        by 3rdOption on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 12:21:44 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  We call them conservative but (3+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse, vidanto, JeffW

    they really aren't. Maybe socially conservative but fiscally  - no. I'm hoping a better word can be found for these corporate-led stooges.

    Then there are the so-called liberals on the Democratic side. Liberal only cause aren't as far gone into whacko-land ...

  •  Religion=magical thinking, soooooo (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW

    Draw your own correlation.

  •  The GOP and republicans don't care about (2+ / 0-)
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    avamontez, happymisanthropy

    the economy.  They only care about being in positions of power and influence.

  •  When I was a kid, (5+ / 0-)

    my country was able to do great things.  Eradicating diseases.  War on poverty.  Civil rights.  Man on the moon.

    If I miss the goodl old days, does that make me a conservative?

    Early to rise and early to bed Makes a man healthy, wealthy, and dead. --Not Benjamin Franklin

    by Boundegar on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:37:43 AM PDT

  •  It's NOT Stupidity Tho: It's MALEVOLENCE (10+ / 0-)

    And there's a profound difference.

    It's actually brilliant: Walker has used the terrible economy and the state's budget problem to enable an agenda that would be impossible in Wisconsin otherwise.

  •  Fire the teachers! Fire the firefighters! (2+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, happymisanthropy

    Stupidity and burned-down houses.

    Welcome to The New America.

    16 years old, proud progressive, Phillies phan.

    by vidanto on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:45:20 AM PDT

  •  You simply don't understand. (4+ / 0-)
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    antirove, avamontez, sunny skies, entrelac
    You would think at some point, conservatives would wake up to the fact that workers can't buy stuff without money.
    They don't care. They really don't care. (Workers don't need "stuff." They just need to work.)

    The right-wing wants to get rid of Obama and gain control of both houses of Congress. If that means tanking the economy, so be it.

    Second, they don't give a damn about ordinary working Americans. They get their money from the rich, they get their power from the rich, they want to be rich...and if that means that 90 percent of America's people slide into serfdom, they'll tell themselves that this is regretable, but unavoidable or necessary or deserved

    Fat cats, and fat cat wannabes are the same the world over.  Russian peasants starved and died under the Czar. Russian workers starved and died under Stalin. Ditto for the Chinese Emperors versus the Gang of Four.  Dictators always claim they are working for the good of the people, when they don't give a damn about the good of the people.

    The Constitution of the United States is a document grounded in realism. That's why its so full of "will not be abridged" clauses.  But like any other form of government, it can be twisted and perverted, usually by those screaming the loudest that they are trying to preserve the freedoms it was designed to protect.

    We never learn. We never learn that the velvet glove contains the iron fist. We believe the lies....because they're what we want to hear. Someone else is to blame. Someone else is the problem. If we can just nullify "those" people....liberals, gays, immigrants, non-whites, old people, young people, unions, women....we are told that we will return to the days of the mythical "shining city on a hill."  So simple. So easy.

    Such a lie. An old, old lie.

    But it works.

    Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

    by Sirenus on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:45:53 AM PDT

  •  "Deficits enable politcal agenda" (0+ / 0-)

    ...and you call this a circle of stupidity?

    I'd call that pretty brilliant! Especially so, in light of the drubbing he handed us a little over a week ago.

  •  Why do you think Scott Walker cares (2+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, happymisanthropy

    about tax revenues, balanced budgets, or economic viability?

    It's about today, baby, because tomorrow never comes.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:46:24 AM PDT

  •  I don't think they care (0+ / 0-)

    In their world, a poor economy is an acceptable price for the opportunity to finally  achieve their goal of eliminating unions.

  •  Great cartoon. (0+ / 0-)

    And it can easily do double duty.  Just change the first illustration to put the American economy under the boot, and switch the subject from Walker to the GOP congress, and you've got yourself another picture of the truth.

  •  You, Ms. Sorenson, are now in my very top (2+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, basket

    list of cartoonists!  You have a gift for documenting real problems with cute drawings.  The very fact that you had to spend time in Pecos, TX makes my heart go out to you!

    "A weed is a plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered." Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by Yo Bubba on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:57:18 AM PDT

  •  It's not just Walker's WI (2+ / 0-)
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    The same is being proposed by Democratic Gov. Quinn and Democratic Leader Madigan in IL - they're just starting on Step 2. They are proposing to cut constitutionally protected pension benefits that will hurt over 360,000 middle-class Illinois families. And they think this isn't going to hurt state revenue and employment!

    At the same time they are giving tax breaks to corporations making billions in profits or who are cutting jobs in Illinois.

    Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein

    by michael in chicago on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 08:09:11 AM PDT

  •  My Mother was a School Teacher (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JeffW

    She Taught second grade in Massachusetts
    for over 28 Years.

    When the Stock market crashed, My Mother's Pension
    was protected. The Evil Teachers Union hired their own
    Managers to make sure that Happened.

    My Mother's Pension was EARNED.
    It was Paid for by over 28 years of Thankless Labor.

    Thanks to the Teachers Union, My Mother was able to
    Retire without Constantly worrying about how to
    Buy Groceries and pay the Electric bill.

    On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

    by Brian76239 on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 08:19:20 AM PDT

  •  The drawing would be a lot more compelling if ... (0+ / 0-)

    .. it wasn't captioned "stupid."

    If it helps to vent, we can talk to ourselves that way. But we're smart enough not to need that cue to know that how Walker's policies are incongruous and self-defeating.

    We should regard voters who we must persuade that they are smart, too. Or, if they're not smart enough yet, starting out with "stupid" doesn't signal that we are trying to use reason, that we should all think about the situation. And as we found out in Wisconsin earlier this month, we have to start reasoning with those who might be convinced to vote for Democrats in November.

    Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

    by TRPChicago on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 08:22:52 AM PDT

  •  It only makes sense if... (1+ / 0-)
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    avamontez

    we look at people's true motivations.  The GOP has written its Mein Kampf, stating boldly and very publicly that their NUMBER ONE priority is to make Obama fail.  I do not believe they think this economic cycle you illustrate so well is crap, nor do I believe they believe in austerity.  They have stated their goal, and it is NOT to help the economy.  My writing is not that of a liberal Dem, grasping at theories.  This is publicly stated, published fact.

    Why shouldn't we think they will act in line with their STATED goals?

    At least we could excuse the German people for not knowing a shittily-written little-known screed existed.  But THIS GOP Mein Kampf is publicly stated, well-tweeted, and well-known.  If the American people haven't digested it and listened to it, shame on all of them (us).

    Aldus Shrugged : The antidote to Ayn Rand.

    by Floyd Blue on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 08:28:04 AM PDT

  •  he is hardly stupid - he has accomplished (2+ / 0-)
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    happymisanthropy, WB Reeves

    a great deal in advancing a right wing agenda.

    survived a recall.

    is now a republican darling.

    not bad for someone who's "stupid".

    These people aren't stupid - and treating them as such is a big mistake.

    Walkers goal was never to make Wisconsin a better place, it was to advance the right wing idealogy.

    Shame on the Wisconsin voters who put him and his barbarians in office, and shame on the ones who didn't get out to the polls to prevent that from happening.

    big badda boom : GRB 080913

    by squarewheel on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 08:47:28 AM PDT

  •  Nixon strategist Lee Atwater said it best (0+ / 0-)
    You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.
    Working as designed. IOKIYAR.
    Martin Bormann (1900–1945?)

    Private secretary to German Führer Adolf Hitler

        Education is dangerous—Every educated person is a future enemy.

        Quoted in "The Trial of the Germans: An Account of the Twenty-Two Defendants Before the International Military Tribunal" - Page 101 by Eugene Davidson - History - 1997

    Busting the Dog Whistle code.

    by Mokurai on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 09:40:25 AM PDT

  •  Secular Contraction (1+ / 0-)
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    WB Reeves

    The cartoon illustrates a very real dynamic, a vicious cycle in which downward pressure on demand creates ever more downward pressure on demand, in a self-reinforcing downward spiral.  Walker's Wisconsin is only the latest manifestaiton of this dynamic.  The elements are clearer in this one case, because as the general, worldwide, process gains momentum, it increasingly becomes more transparent.  But this has been going on for over a generation, and Walker's Wisconsin is just the tip of the iceberg of the secular contraction we find ourselves in right now.    

    My idea is that we aren't just in a cyclical downturn, which is what your garden variety recession is.  

    You can reverse a mere downturn in the business cycle by lowering interest rates to encourage people to start investing again.  Even that might not be necessary, because as the economy moves towards the bottom of a cycle, the things that will be needed to ramp up production when demand returns and the cycle turns up again -- which everyone is confident will happen -- become cheaper and cheaper.  Cheaper assets and more money sitting idle on the sidelines from fear of investing into a down economy, tends to right the economy all by itself.  The business cycle is largely self-correcting.

    A deep and prolonged recession may require more outside nudging than just lowering interest rates to create an even greater surplus of sidelined money ready to re-invest.  Confidence in the return of demand may be so shaken by the depth and length of the slump, there may be so much debt overhanging from the last up in the cycle, that even zero interest rates won't get money back capitalizing an upswing.  The government may have to step in and kickstart demand through government spending.

    Krugman and other economists out there who pay attention to the demand side of the economy will get you that far.  They still think, or at least are still unwilling to go further than saying that they think, that we are just in an unusually long and deep slump, a cyclical phenomenon, something that will eventually right itself, even if the right govt intervention could end this depression a lot closer to now than just letting nature take its course, much less going ahead with austerity, which will prolong the disaster.

    Maybe they aren't going further because I'm wrong about this, and we aren't fairly well into a secular contraction.  But even if I were right, and they suspect that this is the correct view, that we are in secular contraction; they have their credibility with the world of Very Serious People to worry about.  The Krugmans of the world have their hands full getting people in power just to accept very orthodox, very middle of the road policy prescriptins, and stop the austerity train before it takes us over a cliff.  The further, much deeper reforms that would be needed to reverse a secular contraction have become way out there in left field after generations of Overton Window creep.

    What we need right now, in addition to stimulus spending and low interest rates and a higher inflation target, and all the measure that Krugman et al tell us we need to get out of the cyclical downturn, are measures to reverse the secular contraction in demand.  

    We need the unions empowered back to at least the rough parity they once had in the face of the owners' natural advantage, so that they can keep wages up at least in pace with increases in productivity.  We need to keep the states from competing with each other over which can assist the owners in driving down wages in order to draw business away from other states.  No special tax abatements, no "Right to Work" or other state interference in interstate commerce.  We need tariffs that protect demand by not letting foreign corporations get a price advantage on us solely on the basis of not paying their workers as much as we do.  We need a minimum wage that gets set initially at a living wage, then rises automatically with the cost of living.  To keep vast sums of money from being lost to demand, we need the income tax to cover all forms of income, and its top marginal rate back above the 90+% levels we had under Eisenhower.  We need to protect and enhance post-retirement demand by increasing what SocSec takes in (by taxing all income for this purpose) and pays out to the point that it alone can provide a good life in retirement.  We stop subsidizing Wall Street with 401Ks and their ilk.

    None of this is more radical than policies in effect under those notorious socialists, Eisenhower and Nixon, but yes, set out this agenda today, and just about everybody will agree that you're a socialist.  But whatever the label, whatever the difficultiues of living down the label, this is what has has to be done if we are to get back growth and avoid permanent, progressive, contraction.  The longer we put off taking the plunge into vocal advocacy of Social Democracy as radical as Eisenhower's, the worse it's going to get, the more radical the changes needed to reverse the deeper slide.

    We could do all the things Krugman recommends, and still not see any more than a temporary and unsustained improvement.  Measures designed to get us out of a cyclical downturn only work insofar as they support the economy's own regenerative forces, and the key regenerative force that finally reverses the downturn is the confidence that demand will return to pre-slump levels.

    Where is that confidence in demand going to come from unless somebody somewhere on the political spectrum supports policies that will restore and protect demand?  

    We should have destroyed the presidency before Obama took office. Too late now.

    by gtomkins on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 09:55:49 AM PDT

  •  Rethuglicans know (0+ / 0-)

    that if people are educated, they become knowledgeable.  They are not accepting of the crap being put out there by the Rethugs.  The Rethugs also don't want competition for their children (who are probably just as stupid and insipid as their parents), so keeping the general populace lumpy, dumpy, stupid works in their, and their progenys' behalf!

    "If you want to hear the Lord laugh, tell Him what you've got planned."

    by RO45 on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 10:18:43 AM PDT

  •  South American inequality is fine for the rich (1+ / 0-)
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    a2nite

    It works there to have a few families own l the land, why would the rich not be happy owning everything here too?

  •  AFL-CIO Pulling Money From Obama? (0+ / 0-)

    http://www.usnews.com/...

    "The federation says the shift has been in the works for months, and had nothing to do with the president's failure to show in Wisconsin last week"

    Usually when an organization says "X has nothing to do with Y" X has everything to do with Y.

    Good. Maybe this will encourage Obama to stand up for Unions.

  •  Not stupid (0+ / 0-)

    The system is working as designed.

  •  Many Americans hate unions (0+ / 0-)

            It's easy if you never belonged to one, and never think about the need for a force to oppose the Kochs, the Chamber of Commerce and the 1%. We'll hear much more about this in California- anti-union people are salivating after the June 5th San Diego and San Jose elections. The city of San Jose passed bond issues to build four libraries that were never opened, lacking money for people to work there. Now some conservatives blame the library fiasco (the city must pay off those bonds) on unions rather than contractors who raked in money to build libraries to nowhere, because union leaders cheered the news of library building saying that it would create jobs, just as unions often cheer public subsidies for building stadiums, in the same short-term way.

    I want unions to survive and grow, but there are smart  and dumb unions, smart and dumb policies. A very few policemen/firemen get massive pensions (over $300,000/yr.). The public and California newspapers are fixated on those few astronomical pensions. Sometimes they show photos of luxurious retirement homes. It would be smart for unions to call for state laws that set limits to how much money people can get from public pensions in toto (think of Bernard Parks with a lucrative LAPD pension, now double dipping as a city councilman). It would be prudent for the California teacher's union to take lessons from the California nurse's association, a consistently smart and politically effective union.

  •  shorter gov. W: (0+ / 0-)

    "Shrink your way to growth the Scott Walker way!"

    E Pluribus Unum does NOT mean "every man for himself"

    by Daddy Love on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 12:22:33 PM PDT

  •  Still shocked by the attack on teachers appeal (0+ / 0-)

    Wisconsin, as a state, has always prided itself on the quality of its school system and University. In canvassing, rural areas outside of Madison (and in conservative burbs), I was hit by the strong antipathy toward teachers and the wild-eyed praise for Walker finally standing up to the greedy teachers union.

    Objectively, this makes no sense but I think we have seen just how effectively, the right (via their talk radio and Faux news bullhorn) have been able to implement their divide and conquer strategy.

    You squeeze the middle and working class HARD, beat into their heads that this is just the way world is (so go yourself by the boot straps while we give more tax breaks to millionaires) and then you spark anger and bitterness over any working faction that actually seems to have a decent paying job with reasonable benefits.

    Worker solidarity has been displaced by Randian vindictiveness and the old idea of fighting to work to get all workers a package that is also fair has been thoroughly marginalized. Now, folks seem to take a perverse pleasure in making sure everyone else gets screwed over too.

     In all honesty, I am still feeling shell shocked from the recall election and the voter reactions I encountered.
     

  •  Conservatives don't care (0+ / 0-)

    They don't care if workers can't buy stuff without money.

         They talk about growing the pie? Well here's the deal. They are perfectly happy to shrink the pie - if they end up owning all of it.

    A) They already have more money of their own than they can spend.
    B) They can sell things to people elsewhere - they don't need the U.S. any more to buy their crap.
    C) They have plenty of money to control the government, buy what ever else they do want, and still have money left over.
    D) They're capitalists - people who make money by moving piles of money around and around, collecting rent on their assets while they sit on their asses; not creating jobs or anything else of real value.
    D) This is how aristocrats have always lived - and that's how they see themselves.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 04:00:29 PM PDT

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    I started with nothing and still have most of it left. - Seasick Steve

    by ruleoflaw on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 04:33:54 PM PDT

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    The display of coded and not-so-coded racist messages by Republicans in this campaign has been astonishing. In attacking teachers' unions, Republicans manifest their belief that public schools are for poor, minority children on whom intellectual development would be wasted.

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    I usually love Jen's work, but not today.  

    As with everything built by human hands, unions are at least potentially subject to abuse and corruption.  They will often make demands that put their companies at a terrible disadvantage - and even contribute to bankruptcy, as with GM & Chrysler.

    Now before folks start pegging me as a troll, I fully get it that Management frequently abuses its position & screws its workers.  Nobody is innocent - and certainly unions play a very positive role much if not most of the time.

    But unlike private-sector unions where if no deal is struck, the customer leaves from high prices or the company is forced out of business, the public sector is shielded from the marketplace by the fact that it's by-definition local and unable to relocate.  So there's no natural market pushback.  This is a recipe for potential abuse.

    I live in Boston, where the firemen make over $100K a year and retire in their late 40's.   Hundreds of cops make over $120K a year in this state and nobody can call them out on it because unions are a protected right of theirs & they ignore criticism.  They have a captured management - they can't be fired, so the state always caves on negotiations eventually.  Anecdotally I believe they're paid at least 20% more than the comparable private market.  And pensions have been extinct for years.

    No average citizen dares mention it to them as it would increase the likelihood of being arrested for some nuisance charge.   At some point, the taxpayer being fleeced & gets angry, and this leads to electing horrible Republicans.

    Now I know that the unions had already agreed to concessions in pay before Walker was elected.  So Walker is truly an ogre on this.  

    But he does have a point that stimulus through high pay for state union workers is an unsustainable path.  Union folks can be a selfish interest, and can be overpaid at times, and like everyone they are Ill-equipped to detect when this is the case.  

    So there.  

    A nation of sheep will surely beget a government of wolves.

    by BlabberMan on Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 02:18:05 PM PDT

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