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Maybe you heard about DC Comics' "bold" and "daring" move announced last month. They were supposedly going to take the Big Risk of letting one of their "major", "iconic" characters be "outed" as gay.

Was it Wonder Woman? Nope, even though she's a very strong candidate for at least a bisexual past.

Was it Superman? No way.

Was it Batman? Fuhgeddaboutit!

Was it Green Lantern? Well, kinda, sorta - but not THAT one. Not the one from the movie. Not the one from the cartoon series. Not any of the ones who have starred under that title since the dawn of the Silver Age.

Nope, DC shoved a bunch of old Golden Age characters off onto a parallel universe called "Earth-2" - which bears only the faintest and sketchiest resemblance to the long-lost "Earth-2" that was destroyed in Crisis on Infinite Earths some thirty-five years ago. And then they singled out the "original Golden Age Green Lantern", Alan Scott - who has never had more than the most tenuous connection to any other Green Lantern ever - and said, "Tag, you're It!"

Actually, the character was "Alan Scott" in name only and hadn't acquired any superpowers yet, because like ALL of the New 52 DCU, he and Earth-2 were starting out all-new, all-Now, without any previous background or history. But he could have a boyfriend, oh yes....

For all of half an issue, if that.

It may be a brand-new squeaky clean Earth-2, but some patterns are cut so deep into the fabric of the Multiverse that they will happen all over again no matter how new the universe is. The original Golden Age Alan Scott - the real one, whose adventures began in 1940 and ended in 2011 - was empowered as a result of a train wreck of which he was the only survivor. So our brand-new Alan Scott meets his boyfriend in Hong Kong and they're all lovey-dovey as they head off for a train ride to a secluded resort. Guess what happens on the last page of the issue.

Real profile in courage, DC. Pick out the least remembered person who has ever held the title "Green Lantern", shove him off into a parallel universe where he can't possibly "contaminate" any of the Big Meal Tickets, and then Fridge the BF so you won't have to deal with any of the consequences.

One baby step forward, one giant leap backward.

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  •  Tip Jar (6+ / 0-)

    If it's
    Not your body,
    Then it's
    Not your choice
    And it's
    None of your damn business!

    by TheOtherMaven on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 07:56:30 PM PDT

  •  I'm afraid I'm not totally up on the recent comics (1+ / 0-)
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    BonesJones

    but I had heard about them making a gay Green Lantern, Earth 2 such as it is. I further noticed you put on a snark tag, and I just wanted to ask if you are guessing how the storyline is going to go, or if it already went there. Apologies for not being with it enough to know it myself ;)

    •  It went there (0+ / 0-)

      The train went KABOOM! on the last page. Just after Alan had started to propose to the BF, complete with proffered ring. (Some fans think that will metamorphose into Alan's Green Lantern ring, but DC is putting out inconsistent and contradictory claims as to whether there will even be a Green Lantern ring this time around. There definitely won't be a physical lantern.)

      The "snark" tag is because I'm snarking at DC for its cowardice.

      If it's
      Not your body,
      Then it's
      Not your choice
      And it's
      None of your damn business!

      by TheOtherMaven on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 08:31:07 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  He's replacing a B-List Gay character (3+ / 0-)
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        Elwood Dowd, lostboyjim, mallyroyal

        Obsidian, Alan Scott's gay son, has been removed from continuity because they're starting Alan Scott over again at an age too young to have a gay superhero son with an awful design and lame powers.  So writer James Robinson decided to make Alan gay to keep the number of gay characters up (DC has a lot of gay characters, including Batwoman).  Hardly an act of cowardice.  That DC made no fanfare of it, but agreed to it casually, without hesitation, leads one to suspect that they didn't think it would be thought of as controversial or particularly courageous in this day and age, and merely wanted to make an ancient character (he was the original Green Lantern, after all) new and fresh both in and out of costume.  They should be applauded not for courage, but for their participation in and production of progressive-thinking inclusive culture.

        Your resentment is misplaced.  Alan Scott is the original and best Green Lantern (well, best after Kyle Rayner), and the Hal Jordan movie was a mess.

        "The strictest law sometimes becomes the severest injustice." -- Ben Franklin

        by Ouroboros on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 08:44:40 PM PDT

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        •  And some people claim it was the media ballyhooing (1+ / 0-)
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          sviscusi

          what they saw as a Red-Hot Story.

          I still think DC deserves to be snarked at for not taking any such risks with a real Major Character. And it isn't as if it's even such a Brand New Thing - Wildstorm had Apollo and the Midnighter, who actually got married before the line and all their history was gobbled up into the black hole of the DC Universe. (They have been reintroduced in the DCU, but they are at most in the early stages of "getting to know you".) Marvel is marrying off a couple of second-stringers (Northstar of Alpha Flight and his boyfriend Kyle) later this month. ARCHIE COMICS, for crapsake, introduced and married off a cute gay character already. (Interestingly, both marriages are not only same-gender, but mixed-race.)

          DC is way, WAY behind the curve.

          If it's
          Not your body,
          Then it's
          Not your choice
          And it's
          None of your damn business!

          by TheOtherMaven on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 08:57:57 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  DC was promoting Gay characters before Archie (0+ / 0-)

            So they didn't show us a wedding yet.  Big deal.  Comicbook weddings are generally awful, unreadable garbage unless somebody tragically dies at one.

            DC is ahead of everyone else.  The first transgender person I got to know and understand appeared in a DC comic.  Over 20 years ago.

            You're upset because they aren't making Superman himself gay?  Whatever.  I'm upset they haven't made him a 34 year old Jew from NYC.

            "The strictest law sometimes becomes the severest injustice." -- Ben Franklin

            by Ouroboros on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 06:45:30 AM PDT

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            •  Wasn't that actually Vertigo? (0+ / 0-)
              The first transgender person I got to know and understand appeared in a DC comic.  Over 20 years ago.
              Sounds like Wanda (née Alvin) Mann in Neil Gaiman's Sandman series (specific arc and volume, "A Game of You", if anyone wants to look her up). Strong well-written character - but ended up dead as the only possible "happy" solution to her dilemma (she wanted to be a Real Woman but was terrified of the surgery required).  Not quite as progressive as one might hope, then (and less so now).

              Anyway, Vertigo was where DC put its books and stories that might be "too disturbing" for the general public...until they discovered that nothing was "too disturbing" for the fans they still had.

              If it's
              Not your body,
              Then it's
              Not your choice
              And it's
              None of your damn business!

              by TheOtherMaven on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 09:48:18 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Also, Coagula from Rachel Pollack's (0+ / 0-)

                Doom Patrol.  Also Vertigo, but that there is a DC COMICS imprint also owned by Time Warner.

                "The strictest law sometimes becomes the severest injustice." -- Ben Franklin

                by Ouroboros on Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 03:09:56 AM PDT

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              •  Look dude, (0+ / 0-)

                your problem with Alan Scott being gay and not Hal Jordan is kinda weird to me.  DC didn't make Alan Scott gay for the purpose of publicity, like Marvel's public marriage PR blitz fanfare event, but because the writer came up with the idea thinking it would make for a better, more quality piece of work, and DC agreed.  The media latched onto it because they thought it was a more novel, controversial and fascinating thing than it is.  Hal Jordan is lame, and already basically portrayed as a closet-case anyway.  He can never commit to Carroll even though he loves her.  Hmmmmm.

                "The strictest law sometimes becomes the severest injustice." -- Ben Franklin

                by Ouroboros on Fri Jun 15, 2012 at 02:54:32 PM PDT

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                •  I'm not a "dude" (0+ / 0-)

                  and I liked the OLD Alan Scott just fine the way he was (and Molly even more on the extremely rare occasions she got any page time at all).

                  Time will tell if I take a liking to the all-new, all-different but with the same name and superhero handle version - but so far all of the DCnU is just New Coke to me.

                  And you remember how well that turned out, don't you?

                  If it's
                  Not your body,
                  Then it's
                  Not your choice
                  And it's
                  None of your damn business!

                  by TheOtherMaven on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 12:32:13 AM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

        •  Is it clear that the Earth-2 characters (0+ / 0-)

          are ONLY on Earth-2? Or could there be another Earth in the multiverse where Alan Scott and Jay Garrick are older heroes, and Alan's son and daughter are current?

          There don't seem to be any continuity rules, or even guidelines, now...

          •  There could be (1+ / 0-)
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            Elwood Dowd

            but the question is whether DC will ever bother letting us visit it.

            Right now they're only interested in what's happening RIGHT NOW with and to characters who have been around for a maximum of five years, so they're all young and new and fresh and yada yada yada.

            If it's
            Not your body,
            Then it's
            Not your choice
            And it's
            None of your damn business!

            by TheOtherMaven on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 12:39:46 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  Hey, don't be hating on Alan Scott (3+ / 0-)
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    sviscusi, lostboyjim, mallyroyal

    He's actually one of the most respected and experienced comic superheroes out there, leading the Justice Society since the 40s. And he was the ORIGINAL Green Lantern!

    Clearly not a fanboy.

    Oh, and the 'New 52' deeply, deeply sucks. The only good thing is that DC appears to be on about a 5 year schedule of completely rebooting their universe, so I'm just going to wait until all this current one is wiped clean again like it never happened.

    Romney 2012 - Hey, what else are you gonna do? Vote for the BLACK GUY?

    by Fordmandalay on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 09:46:19 PM PDT

    •  word, right? just said the same thing. (0+ / 0-)

      I'm a true fanboy.  Scott is the most powerful GL, for a number of reasons... the explaining of which gets into Flash-continuity-level confusion lol

      haven't read any new 52 stuff, and from what I'm seeing online... I don't wanna lol.

      This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

      by mallyroyal on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 08:23:38 AM PDT

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  •  uh thats the ORIGINAL GL. the one my uncle and (0+ / 0-)

    his generation grew up reading.

    this is pretty major, as far as I'm concerned.

    This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

    by mallyroyal on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 08:17:05 AM PDT

    •  oh and fun fact: since his powers are magic-based (0+ / 0-)

      he's more powerful than superman, who's vulnerable to magic.

      (unless of course superman has a baseball bat lol... I always thought that "weakness to wood" thing was dumb as hell)

      This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

      by mallyroyal on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 08:26:55 AM PDT

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  •  You'll know when you have real equality when... (0+ / 0-)

    ...you have "gays in refrigerators" just like "women in refrigerators", when you have "Gay Lightning" to complement "Black Lightning", and when someone makes a crappy movie that butchers everything good about the character.  That's the DC way.

     

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