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Americans don't know what's in the Affordable Care Act. Some don't know that the law was passed at all. Which explains in large part why it remains, as a whole, unpopular. That's despite the fact that when the individual provisions are explained and polled, they are extremely popular (with the exception of the mandate).

So why do so many people not know what's in the law, and thus don't like it? Because the traditional media utterly failed in explaining it. Instead of talking about the legislation itself, the media talked about the process and the political fights. And it talked about it using the Republicans' framing. That's not just a liberal's complaint. It's the conclusion of researchers from the Pew Project for Excellence in Journalism.

Pew Project for Excellence in Journalism chart showing conservative-themed media coverage of Obamacare
Most of the coverage of the health care reform bill focused on the politics as opposed to reporting on what the bill would do or the state of health care. Fully 49% of the coverage focused on politics and strategy, as well as the legislative process. Less than a quarter of the coverage (23%) outlined what the various proposals would do, and 9% of the coverage focused on the state of the health care system in the U.S. [...]

Which side got the better of this highly politically oriented coverage? An analysis by PEJ of the language used in the media (PEJ research) reveals that opponents of the reform won the so-called “messaging war” in the coverage. Terms that were closely associated with opposition arguments, such as “government run,” were far more present in media reports than terms associated with arguments supporting the bill, such as “pre-existing conditions.”

To conduct the analysis, researchers examined and identified three of the most common concepts being pushed by opponents of the bill and the three concepts being promoted by supporters and then examined the news coverage for the presence of those concepts and language. The concepts used by opponents were nearly twice as common as those used by supporters.

"Death panels" and Koch brothers-orchestrated teabagger tantrums at town hall meetings were sexy and made for easy coverage, so that's what we got. As usual. Politics and strategy is what the traditional media always resorts to because it's easier than than real reporting, real analysis, and actual thinking about and explaining policy issues.

What Americans heard about the Affordable Care Act was the Right's message that it was bad, and that's what the American public generally believes, even though they strongly support most of the provisions of the law—when, if, they actually hear about them. The Right and the traditional media teamed up to make sure that wasn't going to happen.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 07:41 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (34+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 07:41:59 AM PDT

  •  The quickest way (13+ / 0-)

    to get your Republican family members to shut up about "socialized medicine" is to tell them how the individual insurance mandate was an idea that came from the Heritage Foundation.

  •  I've taken to asking people what they would (11+ / 0-)

    like to see happen.  Older people talk about how it used to be when "Blue Cross/ Sheild was a regulated monopoly and all employers offered it pretty much for free."  And that's pretty much the quote I get over and over.

    Sooooo, you want more government regulation and companies to pick up the tab out of their profits?

    As they are trying to get over what actually just came out of their mouths, I smile and agree that I might be willing to go with that over what we have, now.

    Plutocracy (noun) Greek ploutokratia, from ploutos wealth; 1) government by the wealthy; 2) 21st c. U.S.A.; 3) 22nd c. The World

    by bkamr on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:10:33 AM PDT

    •  Great (1+ / 0-)
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      These folks vote?????  

    •  What is truly appalling.... (9+ / 0-)

      is that the GOP's prime focus is on killing the bill.  Some of them are now trying to have it both ways by saying they will vote to "keep popular parts of the bill," but what they fail to reveal is that it isn't possible to have a workable plan if you cherry pick the popular stuff out of it.  Financially it is a disaster and one of the major reasons for the original bill was to try and get a handle on the soaring cost of health care under the old plans.

      Worse yet, they don't have any alternate plans and don't plan to:

      This and the GOP plan to implement the Ryan Budget plan but refuse to answer questions as to just what it will mean in terms of cuts in social programs are what voters need to know about BEFORE the election, but likely will not.  Instead, they may feel comfortable with delusions that "Romney is a businessman and he knows how to create jobs," or that basically "anything is better than this."

      Like the consequences of electing Bush Junior, the end results would be devastating, but too many voters would never know that their ignorance caused it.

      Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

      by dweb8231 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:53:00 AM PDT

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    •  Love it! Gonna steal that comment for future use! (0+ / 0-)

      Smiling all the way!

      ... the watchword of true patriotism: "Our country - when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right." - Carl Schurz; Oct. 17, 1899

      by NevDem on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 10:06:28 AM PDT

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    •  I've heard that, too (0+ / 0-)

      MANY people think that if they have employer provided health insurance, it's free.  My wingnut uncle explained to me how in Europe, the government takes all your money in taxes, but here in the US, we get to keep our mony, and Obamacare would change that.  I asked him, so you would rather pay more out of pocket for private health insurance than pay less for it in taxes, like the Europeans do?  His response?

      I don't pay for my health care, my employer gives it to me for free.
      Don't even try explaining that his wages would be higher if the employer didn't provide his health care, he won't accept that.  Does not compute.  

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 01:08:21 PM PDT

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  •  Because Republicans fought hard (12+ / 0-)

    to get their voices on every media outlet outside of FOX GOP. They flooded the airwaves while Democrats were largely silent. They were loud, boisterous, yet passionate and, in this day and age, passion goes well beyond substance.

    Tap into the passion.

    The Republicans have earned a reputation as the ‘do-nothing party’ and now they want to also be the ‘know-nothing party.' ~~ Rep. Carolyn Maloney

    by MKSinSA on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:15:33 AM PDT

    •  the left was plenty passionate, too (4+ / 0-)

      it's just that instead of pointing out the good parts of the bill, the message was "it sucks!  but they're wrong about why."  the ACA couldn't get accurate/fair reporting for anything.  hell way too many people here still claim it was passed via reconciliation.  if we don't even have all the facts about it straight...

      Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

      by Cedwyn on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:34:16 AM PDT

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      •  Ive seen this (6+ / 0-)

        where the republican talking points become so repeated, so 'mainstream' that people eventually don't even realize they're repeating them.

        I spent a lot of my life being lied to by people who shouldve known better. And while I forgive them, because I don't like holding grudges, I did learn from those events.

        Ive found that people who believe (whether or not its actually the case) that they have nowhere to go and are facing some bad situation, they will jump for the person who gives them...not the best answer, but the most specific.

        "You do this and this and this and get this." That what people seem to jump for when they face hard choices. Even when those people know those are bad ideas.

        People act in a very predictable manner. Trouble is so few people want to admit this. And even fewer want to use it to get what they desire. Its understandable. How far do we go, just to counter an enemy with no problem doing this?

        I have no answer. I just see the pieces, I've never been able to put them together.

        Are treatment radical such of effects term long the what sure be can't we, naturally. Charge no.

        by kamrom on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:54:06 AM PDT

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        •  That's where leadership comes in. (0+ / 0-)

          The Leader (in this case Obama and the WH communications desk) needs to lead to set the message.  They can't wait to be 'pushed' into action.

          They failed on ACA.

          Let us hope that they do not fail further when the decision comes out against them.  

          (I do have a rather lengthy comment below touching on your pieces)

          ... the watchword of true patriotism: "Our country - when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right." - Carl Schurz; Oct. 17, 1899

          by NevDem on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 10:12:25 AM PDT

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      •  We continue to have LOUSY advertising for our (2+ / 0-)
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        Cedwyn, mightymouse

        side, positions and candidates both.

        I really can't understand what's wrong with our side. It's like folding with a straight flush. What happens with the money we donate?

        Eliminate tax breaks that stimulate the offshoring of jobs.

        by RJDixon74135 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:55:52 AM PDT

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      •  Good call. (4+ / 0-)

        Everyone was angry about it, but for different reasons, and so no one focused on what was good about it.

        But if you ask a 24-year-old unemployed person about it, they can tell you some good things...

        --

        Republicans chap my ass

        Me

        by Marc in KS on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:56:33 AM PDT

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      •  It was passed via reconciliation. (1+ / 0-)
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        I was trying to remember how it got passed just the other day, as the Dems lacked 60 votes in the Senate. When you mentioned that, I looked it up on Wikipedia
        And now we both know (and a few others).

        Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

        by HappyinNM on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:09:49 AM PDT

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        •  NO. IT. WASN'T. (1+ / 0-)
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          MKSinSA

          that wiki link is about the sidecar amending ACA, which was passed via reconciliation.  note the article's title is "Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010," not "PPACA."

          The Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 (Pub.L. 111-152, 124 Stat. 1029) is a law that was enacted by the 111th United States Congress, by means of the reconciliation process, in order to amend the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Pub.L. 111-148). It was signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 30, 2010.[1]

          Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

          by Cedwyn on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:18:05 AM PDT

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          •  They had to pass that one in order to get (0+ / 0-)

            anything enacted. The Senate and the House had passed two different bills. If they took it to conference, they didn't have the votes in the Senate to pass the conference report. So the House passed the Senate bill through reconciliation. And, please don't yell at me. Nothing that happens on this site is worth yelling about.

            Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

            by HappyinNM on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 10:12:41 AM PDT

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            •  no (1+ / 0-)
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              MKSinSA

              ppaca passed in the normal way.  obama signed it into law on March 23, 2010.

              contrast that with the March 30 enactment of The Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010.

              Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

              by Cedwyn on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 12:28:32 PM PDT

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    •  I'd say (17+ / 0-)

      it's quite a bit more systematic than this.  Republican voices weren't simply louder and more prevalent.  Republicans learned a long time ago if you create think tanks that can provide journalists a frame, write journalists' copy in the form of press releases and then further distribute what journalists publish after using your frames and your copy via elaborate commentary and talk show booking networks, then the way you see issues will become the dominant way that issues are seen.

      In short, if you do journalists' work for them, journalists will add their by-lines.

      There's an entire infrastructure of not just messaging but of reality definition.  Journalism is but a small piece.  

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:50:01 AM PDT

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    •  There were democrats who- (5+ / 0-)

      were loud and boisterous and spoke quite frankly, like Alan Grayson, but they were being called too harsh, too loud and lacking in decorum, for example, Grayson's brilliant "Die quickly" speech on the floor.

      I encourage and applaud the use of shocking people with the reality, but it gets labeled as being rude and "out there' or even "crazy."  

      Again, I was thrilled with Grayson's neanderthal comments on CNN, but the rest of that roundtable looked at him like they were ready to call in the guys in white coats.  

      "Selfishness must always be forgiven, you know, because there is no hope of a cure." Emma 1816 Check out my blog http://uninsuredinca.blogspot.com

      by ArtemisBSG on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:52:40 AM PDT

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    •  There were a lot of (1+ / 0-)
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      commercials run against ACA, paid for by front groups.

      The MSM is obviously corporate-owned, and they are against ACA.  The journalists want to keep their jobs more than they want to excel.  

      I don't think you can lay this solely at the feet of a lack of passion on the Democratic side.

    •  Got to get invited, don't you think. The media (2+ / 0-)
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      orlbucfan, indie17

      didn't want the left's opinion. They are corporations and Republicans are their friends.

  •  This needs more exposure... (1+ / 0-)
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    HappyinNM

    I'll link elsewhere...mahalo for this..

  •  If Republicans Explained To Their Constituents (5+ / 0-)
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    ZedMont, xaxnar, mcmom, tb mare, Arenosa

    that if ACA fails to be supported by the SCOTUS, then the private healthcare system will die in 5 to 10 years, and we more than likely with have a real universal healthcare plan which hopefully will be single payer.  The US cannot sustain 51 million people that don't have health insurance of any kind.  Private insurers will keep raising prices to make profits and more and more people will drop out resulting in a huge healthcare cathastrophe that the government will have to clean up.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:27:55 AM PDT

    •  But how many people will die until then? (5+ / 0-)
      •  Exactly (2+ / 0-)
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        mcmom, xaxnar

        Will they kick people out of the hospitals when the law is struck down?   I'm just asking.

        •  Yes. (3+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          xaxnar, ArtemisBSG, Mistral Wind

          I listened to a congressional hearing once where a lady who had cancer was already in the hospital preparing for surgery when the insurance company pulled the plug on her. And, yes, they threw her out. She said, and I don't know if this is the whole story, the insurance company found that she had a pre-existing condition, acne, when she was younger. She apparently got some kind of treatment because her hair was very short, like it was growing back in after being bald.

          Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

          by HappyinNM on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:19:16 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  Exactly. That's the Republican idea of how to (1+ / 0-)
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        xaxnar

        clean up the catastrophe.

        History merely repeats itself; it doesn't cure its own ills. That is the burden of the present.

        by ZedMont on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:37:23 AM PDT

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    •  Well, 5 to 10 years (1+ / 0-)
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      Arenosa

      is a short time.  I don't see that happening.  Maybe if we allow total dystopia to occur, your scenario of single payer would come to fruition, but I think it would be a miniumum of 20 years.

      The private system is not going to die, it will simply support fewer people -- think the top 10% of income earners.

      Healthcare is already catastrophic. The public hospitals here are already stretched to the maximum.  Bankruptcy followed by public health care (Medicaid) is what is occuring.  It's why Obama, after speaking with people around the country during the 2008 campaign, was so determined to get ACA done, regardless of the Great Recession.

      If ACA is overturned, I don't see things getting better anytime soon.  Unless we have a solid majority in both houses of Congress, and get rid of the filibuster, a solution will not be tenable.

      In the meantime, more people suffer and die.

      It's bleak.  I guess I could hope that people will wake up and quit voting for Republicans.

  •  File this under: well, of course. (6+ / 0-)

    It's so frustrating. Anyone with 1/2 a brain would recognize these truths, but unfortunately for us all, a lot of people don't use anywhere close to 1/2 their brain when they think/read/watch/listen about politics. They will ignore facts and research, because "statistics are for nerds" or think that all statistics/research can be (or are) manipulated and therefore cannot be trusted. They then give up thinking at all, or worse, let Rush and his minions do their thinking for them, because he sounds so convincing. They rely on his word while at the same time distrusting the word of anyone else, not bothering to turn that same cynical ear to Rush!
    Maddening. How can we break those closed loops to let the truth get in to those people? Can we?

    "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

    by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:28:00 AM PDT

  •  Validity of study is highly questionable (2+ / 0-)
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    From looking at the diary's link, there is no mention of adjusting for the audience size of each of the 60 News sources in the study.  So this study gives the same weight to two news sources even if one has an audience 100 times larger than another.

    Also the study just looks at word counts, not what an article says to determine if it was favorable or not to one side.

    The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

    by nextstep on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:28:01 AM PDT

    •  News Departments (1+ / 0-)
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      shevas01

      use to provide valuable info to the viewers before they went to FOR PROFIT AND HAD TO ANSWER TO THE CORP BOARDS!!!!   Think about it.

    •  Your last point is off target. (1+ / 0-)
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      mcmom

      The study is entirely looking at what the articles said; analyzing and counting phrases deemed to be pro- or anti-ACA and seeing how many of each were present in the aggregate total of the articles. Your first comment holds more weight, imho, if true (I have not looked at the particulars of the study yet.)

      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:36:18 AM PDT

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      •  The problem with phrase counting are: (0+ / 0-)

        1 - writers may use phases not part of the search list, so there is undercounting of these points of view.  A penalty for not using cliches.

        2 - an article opposing the other side will frequently use phrases of the other side, resulting in an error on the article's side.

        The study used phased counting not a sophisticated Artificial Intelligence linguistics model.

        The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

        by nextstep on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:07:02 AM PDT

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        •  If you don't think these were accounted for, (0+ / 0-)

          or the research was flawed in this fundamental way, I think you'd better do your own research on the topic yourself and present your own findings.

          "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

          by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:38:12 AM PDT

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          •  I don't have the time and resources to redo (0+ / 0-)

            all the terrible studies that are done.

            This was just a case of a grossly poor method.

            The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

            by nextstep on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:44:05 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  I take exception to this (2+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse, Be Skeptical

    It's not up to the media to make sure everyone in the U.S. knows what's in every piece of legislation...from the most important ones to the most insignificant ones.  It's up to our leaders.  I know I'll get a ration of shit for saying this but "we'll know what in it after we pass it" is just ludicrous.  If people don't know what's in the ACA, then that's not because of bad media reporting.  It's because of very poor legislators that, themselves, probably didn't know what was in it in the first place themselves.  They all have a constituency and they all have the ability to get their message out to that constituency.  

    I couldn't disagree more about this.

    Sorry.  And, no, I'm not some kind of "troll" or something.  That's just truth.

    The truth is sometimes very inconvenient.

    by commonsensically on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:28:43 AM PDT

    •  Um, actually, it is the job of the "free press" (8+ / 0-)

      to do this kind of interpretive analysis of the government's actions. It was exactly this watchdog role of the press that was the main reason the Founding Fathers supported so strongly the freedom of the press.

      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:32:56 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Disagree (1+ / 0-)
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        mightymouse

        I support ACA.  I'm on board with it.  But, I disagree.  Sorry.

        The truth is sometimes very inconvenient.

        by commonsensically on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:34:07 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Disagreeing abuot opinions is fair (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          HappyinNM

          But this is fact, not opinion.

          To be a Republican, you have to believe that our economic problems are caused by the poor having too much money and the rich not having enough.

          by Tommy Jones the Band on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:37:42 AM PDT

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        •  So what do you think the press is supposed to (1+ / 0-)
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          HappyinNM

          do, Constitutionally speaking? And remember, your interpretation will be running counter to those who actually created our government . . .

          "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

          by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:38:00 AM PDT

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          •  I'm not arguing constitutionally about press (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            mightymouse

            If neither the democrats or the republicans knew what, exactly, was in this bill, how in the world could the press have presented it to we, the people?

            C'mon.

            I'm not trashing ACA here...I like it...a lot.  And hope it progresses.  But, the impetus of this diary is, to me, wrong.

            The truth is sometimes very inconvenient.

            by commonsensically on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:43:08 AM PDT

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            •  But the diary is about what the press did, and its (0+ / 0-)

              role in this clusterf^&k, so if you're not addressing that topic, you are not fairly addressing this diary, either.
              If a reporter doesn't understand something, it used to be his/her job to ask questions of people until he did understand so s/he could report on it. And if s/he found that a whole bunch of pols didn't even know, then that would have become the story. That is what the press is supposed to be doing, according to their traditional place in our heritage.
              Btw, why do you keep bringing up the ACA in our subthread? I know the research concerns it, but your original comment and our disagreement has nothing to do with it . . .

              "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

              by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:55:37 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  C'mon bryduck (0+ / 0-)

                Is this about ACA (Obamacare) or not?

                I don't understand your question.

                The truth is sometimes very inconvenient.

                by commonsensically on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:59:17 AM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  This diary is about the press. The subject (0+ / 0-)

                  of the study that the diary points to could have been anything. In this case, Pew chose to look at articles on ACA.

                  "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

                  by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:02:39 AM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  Yet (0+ / 0-)

                    You discuss ACA in your comments upthread here.

                    You can't just say someone is off-topic when it doesn't suit you when you post remarks on those very same topics.

                    Again, c'mon.

                    The truth is sometimes very inconvenient.

                    by commonsensically on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:08:23 AM PDT

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                    •  Whether I talk about the ACA, or Family Guy, or (0+ / 0-)

                      how I brush my teeth, in a comment directed toward someone else somewhere else is irrelevant to what I'm talking to you about here. This is ridiculous.

                      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

                      by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:36:32 AM PDT

                      [ Parent ]

                      •  I hate how you've responded (0+ / 0-)

                        Sad response.  I think you know what I'm saying, of course.  When you argue against what someone here says, you have to take responsibility for what you say also, bryduck.

                        Again, not here to make an enemy of you.  But, you have to know I haven't said anything disengenuous or incorrect.

                        Thanks.

                        The truth is sometimes very inconvenient.

                        by commonsensically on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:45:27 AM PDT

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                        •  I don't know what you think you've read, (0+ / 0-)

                          but the only responses I made on this thread had to do with the press, which was the subject of the diary. I said nothing about the ACA, so when you insist that I have in your responses, or assert I'm dodging "responsibility", I feel like you are actually talking to someone else about something else--that's how incoherent your comments sound to me.
                          To recap: I took exception to your original statement that the diary was wrongheaded in laying any blame at the press's doorstep. Full stop. Nothing about the ACA. Nothing.

                          "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

                          by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 04:13:42 PM PDT

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            •  They all knew what was in the bill. (0+ / 0-)

              Nancy Pelosi meant to say that, until all the pieces are put into play (remember, the brunt of it won't come on line until 2014), people won't appreciate how it works. She said it poorly, and that same press and Fox tore her apart over it. And you bought it as well. Ironic, huh? They worked on it for months, so they absolutely knew what was in it.

              Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

              by HappyinNM on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:27:54 AM PDT

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          •  how to get the press to tell YOUR story: (3+ / 0-)
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            A. Have a story and repeat, repeat, repeat.

            B. Have all your people do A.

            This did not happen w/Dems re ACA. You can blame the media if you want. But Dems are also at fault.

            An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

            by mightymouse on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:12:40 AM PDT

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            •  "Also" |= to "only," which was the (1+ / 0-)
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              commenter's stance.

              "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

              by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:39:50 AM PDT

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              •  it's true the media s***s (1+ / 0-)
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                but Dems can still try harder to get their message out.

                complaining about the media while not doing the other seems silly to me.

                An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

                by mightymouse on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 10:26:40 AM PDT

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                •  And I haven't done that. In fact, (1+ / 0-)
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                  we agree wholeheartedly about that. But we complain all day, every day about how the Dems blow at messaging. This diary, though, was talking about the press's role, and the commenter to which I was responding seemed to want to divest the press from any responsibility, and I disagree with that POV.

                  "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

                  by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 04:17:52 PM PDT

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                  •  not blaming you - but (0+ / 0-)

                    the big media stinks. we all know that. it's been that way for a while. they have something of a monopoly. it's not news to me the media misreported here. they do that all the time.

                    Dems still have to attempt to prevail in spite of this obstacle. my impression is our elected Dems don't play the game to win a lot of the time.

                    An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

                    by mightymouse on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 06:45:48 PM PDT

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      •  Absolutely 100% correct (4+ / 0-)
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        Once the free press became the bought press, truth and facts took a back seat to corporate propaganda.

        To be a Republican, you have to believe that our economic problems are caused by the poor having too much money and the rich not having enough.

        by Tommy Jones the Band on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:37:06 AM PDT

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      •  I agree 100 percent. (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Excellent example (2+ / 0-)
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      Although possibly not for the reason you meant.

      Nancy Pelosi is asked about the bill, says that the committee needs to pass it so the rest of Congress can find out what's in it.

      Right-wing media changes that to Congress needing to pass it and then find out what's in it.

      You're probably got 95% saturation of the deliberately wrong version of the quote among the right, and almost nobody knows what she was really saying...

    •  Yes and No... (6+ / 0-)

      Part of it is our leaders, not being able to effectively communicate their message.

      But even if every single Dem was a fantastic communicator, from day one, it makes no difference if the media is not there to cover their messages.  When 80% of the news coverage goes to GOP messages, then it really handicaps us from the start.

      It's far easier for the media to repeat (usually verbatim) the AP news story, which is just regurigated right-wing talking points, and it gets more viewers (which means more advertising dollars) when they only run the "sensationalized" and "dramatic" parts of the story.  That is soooo much easier for them, than actually acting like journalists and reporting fact-based news.  Any idiot can spout their opinion off, that takes no effort, but it actually takes time, effort, passion, and skill to be a journalist.  The problem is that news organizations only hire pretty faces now to read the news.  Journalism is dead.

      Facts are liberally bias

      by SuzieQ4624 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:43:33 AM PDT

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      •  I agree totally. Unfortunately.... (0+ / 0-)

        it's not just repubs. who have been bought & paid for there were only 47 votes for the ACA act with the public option.  It had been watered down so..just to get all the Dems to get on board.  Another example is Bain Capitol.  For all intense & purposes this is a vulture capital company but when you start talking truth about them..look who was exposed and being a tool for them? Sad really really sad the state of our politics.  

      •  Journalism is dead, but if all Dems realized (3+ / 0-)
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        that, we could still manipulate its corpse more effectively than they do now. If all Dems spoke with as singular a voice as the Repubs do, or at least kept to the same general themes, at least some of this damage could be ameliorated. Maybe, to be sure, but that's the only way we could do it.

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:58:23 AM PDT

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    •  It's absolutely the job (3+ / 0-)
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      of the media to inform the public. Asserting otherwise is just kind of silly.

      The other part of your assertion I agree in part with. I followed this as closely as anyone, and know that there were numerous briefings of Democratic members and that they knew what was in it.

      Did they not work particularly hard in selling it? Here's where the vicious circle of conservative-framed media comes in. Opposition to the law gets frothed up in the public and supporters don't want to fight against it, so they shut up.

      "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

      by Joan McCarter on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:57:49 AM PDT

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      •  Depends on how you look at it (0+ / 0-)

        Morally? Yes, absolutely, 100%, hands-down, no question: The press has a moral obligation to report the truth to the public, and to do so with minimal spin.

        Legally? No. Nothing in the Constitution requires the press to report anything, or to report without bias.

        Economically? No. Aside from (allegedly) non-profit entities such as NPR, and alleged journalism outfits like Fox, the corporations that run the media have a responsibility to make a profit. Unfortunately, that responsibility is often at odds with their moral responsibility to report the truth. Guess which responsibility is more likely to win out?

        Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

        by Nowhere Man on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:37:20 AM PDT

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  •   What will they replace Obamacare with (1+ / 0-)
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     White Spite Care  , i guess lots of  these White Spiteful Conservative will come to realize that thier parent will soon get to the point ,where they will not be able to take care of them and i hope they do not expect minority caregiver to do it for them,

  •  Yet another argument for keeping it simple. (12+ / 0-)

    Medicare for all!

    Rakoff for president! "An application of judicial power that does not rest on facts is worse than mindless, it is inherently dangerous..." -- Medicare for All -- "Justice delayed is justice denied" for the 99%

    by EquityRoy on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:30:38 AM PDT

    •  exactly (0+ / 0-)
      To conduct the analysis, researchers examined and identified three of the most common concepts being pushed by opponents of the bill and the three concepts being promoted by supporters and then examined the news coverage for the presence of those concepts and language. The concepts used by opponents were nearly twice as common as those used by supporters.

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      by annieli on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:00:30 AM PDT

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  •  It's not just the media (8+ / 0-)

    Democrats suck at getting their message out.  Until they learn how to communicate better, this is how things will roll.  

    •  Yes. This I agree with (see above for another (0+ / 0-)

      view to which I disagree, if you want.)

      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:39:37 AM PDT

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    •  Hello? (2+ / 0-)
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      Dems do not have the money like repubs.   Repubs control the media.  News Departments are for profit and answer to corp boards.   Repubs control talk radio and in some areas of the country, listeners get no progressive views.

      It's talk radio that needs to change big time.

    •  They do communicate (4+ / 0-)
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      The media ignores them or puts a right winger on to lie and they don't call out the lies.

      To be a Republican, you have to believe that our economic problems are caused by the poor having too much money and the rich not having enough.

      by Tommy Jones the Band on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:40:00 AM PDT

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    •  BOTH parties (0+ / 0-)

      You're half right because republicans didn't get that message out either, mostly from not taking the time to know everything.  I totally agree with you.  And, sad thing is, a lot of democrats didn't know everything that was in this in the first place just like republicans.  I love the fact that the majority democrats voted as they did for this piece of legislation, but they did so for party/political reasons rather than knowing all of the specifics in this bill.  

      So, if they didn't know these things, how in the heck could the media know these things.

      Tough to argue.

      The truth is sometimes very inconvenient.

      by commonsensically on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:40:22 AM PDT

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    •  Pelosi and Reid failed (0+ / 0-)

      They got the bill passed, which was huge, but did a lousy job at winning over the public.  And don't forget, the public had strongly supported health care reform, so Fox/GOP not only did a good job at turning the tide, the Democratic leadership crapped out.

      Another reason why Pelosi and Reid should step aside.

  •  Do you think it was intentional that they (1+ / 0-)
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    did this, or was it just because so many of them are "stupid". It can simply be, that "if it bleeds it leads". Why should they cover good news, when they have so many crazies creating bad news to cover. The same is true right now, with the contempt charges against Holder. Very few go into the detail of the whole situation, like Rachel Maddow, and explain how these jerks in the house bought into the NRA conspriacy theory. Do you hear any of them saying how batshit crazy these idiots are? I must have missed it too.

  •  But, the media and politicians... (6+ / 0-)

    have been brainwashing me for years to believe that the media is liberally biased...you mean, they lied to me?!?!?  OMG!

    /snark

    Facts are liberally bias

    by SuzieQ4624 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:35:59 AM PDT

  •  Since.. (0+ / 0-)

    ..conspiracy theories are the flavor of the week, here is my Affordable Care Act conspiracy theory:

    In order to get the Affordable Care Act passed, & in order to keep Big Pharma & the insurance cartel from mounting a billion dollar propaganda drive against the Affordable Care Act, Obama & Democrats agreed to mute their message on what is contained in the Affordable Care Act.  If not mute their message altogether, then at least convolute it.

    This sounds logical to me.

    Otherwise, you would have to conclude Obama & the Democrats possess a collective I.Q. of 50.

    Daily Kos Rule of Thumb #1: Any optimistic prediction for a Democratic candidate is a slippery slope to complacency.

    by wyvern on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:45:40 AM PDT

    •  Not neccesarily.... (3+ / 0-)
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      Obama and Dems DID talk about what was in the bill and why people should like it.

      The problem is two fold:

      1) The media covers the Republican talking points at least at a 3:1 ratio vs Dem talking points - b/c they are all owned by Republicans and not allowed to liberally biased or even impartially report facts.

      2) The GOP launched a misinformation campaign.  So Dems were bringing facts and reason to a blatent-lie fight.  When people can't tell what's true and what's false, they just believe whatever message they hear the most - which (see point 1) is not the Democratic message.

      Facts are liberally bias

      by SuzieQ4624 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:53:51 AM PDT

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      •  Sorry, don't buy that... (0+ / 0-)

        ...The Democrats' & Obama's messaging on the ACA has been unspeakably horrible.

        It's been so horrible, in fact, I believe a secret deal was cut to make their messaging so horrible.

        Put it this way:  If you or I were  president, & our historical legacy hinged on passing health care, we would be obssessed with educating the country on what we had just passed.

        And we would plan ahead for all the right wing bullshit & lies that would be headed our way.

        But Obama appeared lost & inarticulate from the outset.

        My conclusion is Obama made a secret deal to appear lost & inarticulate from the outset.

        I have admitted it's a conspiracy theory.

        Which means if you disagree with me, you are in on the conspiracy ;)

        Daily Kos Rule of Thumb #1: Any optimistic prediction for a Democratic candidate is a slippery slope to complacency.

        by wyvern on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:30:56 AM PDT

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    •  The administration met with both the (0+ / 0-)

      insurance companies and Pharma. Remember Pharma agreed to invest $80 billion? And both of those entities have big budgets to lobby Congress, so there was no way they could be left out of the discussion. It just came out last week that while the insurance companies seemed to be going along with everything, AHIP invested millions in lobbying against the ACA. It's a freakin' miracle anything got passed.

      Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

      by HappyinNM on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:38:35 AM PDT

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      •  If ... (0+ / 0-)

        ... $80 billion is at stake, then $80 billion will buy a lot of "just one more thing" &  "this is the way we're going to do it."

        I'm sticking with my speculation until presented evidence that suggests otherwise:

        In order to get the ACA passed, Obama & Democrats agreed to convolute the messaging on the ACA.

        That's why the nation is against it.

        If I passed a piece of iconic legislation that was going to define my historical legacy, I would have a team of hundreds poised to stave off all the bullshit from the right wing I knew would be coming.

        And you would too.  It's called common sense.

        Daily Kos Rule of Thumb #1: Any optimistic prediction for a Democratic candidate is a slippery slope to complacency.

        by wyvern on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:48:13 AM PDT

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  •  Health Care AND ACA are just too complicated. (3+ / 0-)
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    "Understanding" is impossible. Even if it were just difficult, the media would not cover it, because while providing and insuring health care affects us all, it's just too damn complicated. Moreover, with so much of ACA awaiting implementation after this next election, well, the core of it is not today's news.

    What is today's news? The political he said/she said and the lawsuits, but only the very tip of the iceberg of each.

    Everything about this subject gets reduced to 10 to 50 words that people can digest on-their-way-to-something-else. OR it is limited to political tugs and pulls, which everyone can understand intuitively because each of us has a filter that highlights what we attend to. And nothing more.

    Aiming for simplicity - which may be the paramount goal in both health care reform and politics - if most or all of ACA falls with SCOTUS's upcoming decision, the solution should be Medicare with no age limit.

    All the beneficiairies of today's hodgepodge mess of a "system" will rant and rebel, but the public can grasp that solution and, for better or worse, the limitations that must be imposed on it to make it affordable. (Affordable, of course, compared to what we have now, which must be a very key part of the analysis!) And Medicare with no age limit is sufficiently draconian that it might - OK, just might! - cause health care and insurance providers to participate in a more realistic set of solutions, rather than the mess of half-way compromises and challengeable constitutionalities we have now.

    Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

    by TRPChicago on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:46:38 AM PDT

  •  The news media is an utter failure. (6+ / 0-)

    All the news media cares about is conflict. They see no responsibility to inform the public of anything of substance.
    And investigative reporting is just about gone. Rolling Stone magazine is the only publication I know that does responsible investigative reporting. The rest of the news media is lazy or incompetent.

  •  The armed, open-carry debates, yeah those town (2+ / 0-)
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    meetings were a great place to take a class of 3rd graders to show them how democracy works.

    That would have worked.

    . . . from Julie, Julia. "Oh, well. Boo-hoo. Now what?"

    by 88kathy on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:48:38 AM PDT

    •  Funny you should mention that. I wanted to take (2+ / 0-)
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      my kids to see these meetings, but we didn't go because of TEH crazies with guns.

      I don't know what they thought they were doing with those weapons, but as a veteran, I was disgusted.

      It looked like pure intimidation tactics to me.

  •  Never mind that truth seems unimportant when (1+ / 0-)
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    compared to point of view.  Truth seems unimportant to the study as well.

    Let's see:

    One term -- more government involvement --

    Seems neutral as to whether it is a "supporter" or "opponent" term.  More than a few people think government regulation is a good thing, not bad.

    Take out "more government involvement" because it's inclear which way it actually cuts and because it is clearly true, and you get:

    "More taxes" in a virtual tie with "More competition",
    "Insuring Pre-existing Condition" mentioned 40% more often than "Rationing Health Care", and the so-called conservative bias melting into mythology where it belongs.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:51:01 AM PDT

  •  Patients don't run ads, insurance companies do. (4+ / 0-)

    The media coverage reflects the source of its funding.

  •  Pelosi - and that awful sound bite (3+ / 0-)
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    Nancy Pelosi is still being used by the anti-Obamacare forces to demonize it. I heard it a few days ago from someone who practically starting frothing at the mouth, he was so angry over it. The conservative framing is, the Democrats shoved the bill through Congress without allowing any debate or even letting people know what was in it. The Republicans engaged in a campaign of fear mongering, lies and distortion from day one - and Pelosi's soundbite gave them ammunition they're still using. Here's a typical wing nut 'journalist' take on it.

    Here's the Youtube clip:

    Now my take on this is Pelosi was trying to say (badly) that once the law goes into effect and people actually experience it in action, they'll like it as they find all the controversy was nonsense. But, given the GOP narrative making Peolosi some kind of Machivellian anti-Christ figure, good luck with that.

    Message discipline - we has not gots.  We really need to bring back Grayson's message about what GOP proposals amount to: Don't get sick, and if you do get sick, die quickly.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:55:56 AM PDT

    •  Could be (3+ / 0-)
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      Now my take on this is Pelosi was trying to say (badly) that once the law goes into effect and people actually experience it in action, they'll like it as they find all the controversy was nonsense.
      Just another example of why we need our leaders to make sure they make statements that are pointed, understandable and unquestionable.

      Democratic politicians have had a real problem with that, especially lately.

      The truth is sometimes very inconvenient.

      by commonsensically on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:06:38 AM PDT

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  •  people don't know cuz Dem pols didn't tell them (3+ / 0-)
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    it should have been (still should be) a giant talking point for our guys, if indeed this bill is a good thing.

    Another Democratic message FAIL.

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    by mightymouse on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:07:14 AM PDT

  •  Here We Go Again.... (1+ / 0-)
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    Because the traditional media utterly failed in explaining it.
    Ok, can someone please explain to me where it is written it is the responsibility of MSM to explain new government programs?

    Are you referring to print or tee vee media?

    If it's print media, I'm not sure that's effective, since newspaper sales and readership are falling dramatically.

    "Don't complain about the media, become the media!"
    Jello Biafra

    "The fundamental strength of the economy is unimpaired". Herbert Hoover December 2, 1930

    by Superpole on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:11:45 AM PDT

    •  That whole 4th Estate thing? Ring a bell? (0+ / 0-)
      •  What 4th Estate?? (1+ / 0-)
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        Yes, I get the 4th Estate thing-- but the corporations running lamestream media don't and they are not required to.

        Lamstream media exists to do two things mainly:

        1.) Make money.

        2.) Publish propaganda that makes the wealthy class look good, don't publish info which makes them look bad.

        “The Fourth Estate is dead,” Ray McGovern, of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, told Raw Story in an exclusive interview. ”The Fourth Estate in his country has been captured by government and corporations, the military-industrial complex, the intelligence apparatus. Captive! So, there is no Fourth Estate.”
        If you want the 4th Estate to make a comeback, it's up to US to create it. It's not going to magically happen on its own.

        http://www.rawstory.com/...

        "The fundamental strength of the economy is unimpaired". Herbert Hoover December 2, 1930

        by Superpole on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 11:54:55 AM PDT

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    •  Democracy depends on a well-informed (3+ / 0-)
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      citizenry. Not everybody has the time to read lengthy dissertations on policy. So yes, what they are engaging in is journalistic malpractice. If media doesn't report a lie as a lie, then yes, they are derelict in their duty

      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:50:28 AM PDT

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      •  Well, then I guess (1+ / 0-)
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        our democracy is in serious trouble; our people are not well informed.

        regarding corporate duty, this makes them laugh out loud. you are not going to shame or cajole them into doing what is right. forget it.

        There's only one way to bring the giant down.

        "The fundamental strength of the economy is unimpaired". Herbert Hoover December 2, 1930

        by Superpole on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 12:00:01 PM PDT

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        •  they used to be shamed (0+ / 0-)

          and cajoled into it - by the law. It used to be enforced that they had to report in the public interest. Cable never fell under those regulations. Some people think that to bring those regulations back and to enforce them violates the 1st  Amendment but I don't see it that way.

          liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

          by RockyMtnLib on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 12:17:14 PM PDT

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        •  Superpole, give me a friggin' (1+ / 0-)
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          break! Between these RW corporate fascists' goals of controlling the microphone (media) and killing public education so that they can get a dumbed-down citizenry, these corporate crooks are succeeding. What is it that you don't get about the Fourth Estate and how important it is???? Let me know. Kosmail me.

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          by orlbucfan on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 01:37:17 PM PDT

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  •  Politically - SCOTUS rejection good for Dems (0+ / 0-)

    While I am quite sure that the SCOTUS will reject the mandate
    (if not the entire law); in the long run, this will hurt the GOP big time. By demonizing all aspects of the ACA, they can't offer any viable alturnative.

    Unfortunately, it may take up to a year before the negative impact on the GOP kicks in.

  •  This is why i said years ago, there should be (3+ / 0-)
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    Protest at network news headquarters. Their purposeful narrow reporting, is why we have a congress full of tea party lunatics. For 3.5 years of Republican history making obstruction, everytime the Republicans as a group, stand on the steps of the congress and ask, "Obama where are the jobs?", when they are in the news rooms saying the same thing, has one reporter challenged them by simply asking, or reminding them, didn't you just vote against Obama's jobs bill? Haven't you been filibustering all his bills, jobs bills included, since the first month of him administration? In 3.5 years, the media allowed and enabled Republicans to pull this bs on the American public without calling them on it. Yes, they are complicit, and the proof is in the public's ignorance.

  •  WHAT! The "Drive By Media" Fragging their own ? (0+ / 0-)

    It'll never happen! Never I tell you!

    snark*

  •  Your basic Premise needs scrutiny (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm going to go off on a tangent here:

    So why do so many people not know what's in the law, and thus don't like it? Because the traditional media utterly failed in explaining it.
    I would ask; Why did the media fail?  (And this leads to the fundamental differences between D's and  R's and our lack of understanding of R's).  Dems were not out there with the individual benefits of the plan.  

    Example: An exception was the under 26 insured on parents policy.  Barney Frank kept harping on that on every talk show he popped up on (and he seemed to be the only Dem doing this, including Obama).  Hell, even my totally-not-involved 18 year old indestructible employees knew about that provision.  

    Republicans, harped on one thing, Mandate.  They created a wedge issue on this.  Dems went along governing, R's went ahead and created a wave to sweep themselves into office on the basis of one issue - Mandate.  We did a great job of saying this is a great plan; what does it do exactly in simple terms? - Crickets.

    Why did the media fail? Democrats failed to come up with the 5 major benefits and keep hammering home the point -  Mandate is a small price to pay to have Guaranteed health care at a Reasonable cost.  

    Why couldn't Dems say and keep saying:

    • Closes the Republican Donut hole, lowering cost to Seniors
    • Tax credits to small business lowering the cost of healthcare
    • Your precious children insured on your policy until age 26, lowering their costs
    • Free preventative services
    • Limit Administrative costs for Insurers, lowering your cost

    In case you missed it, there is only one point in everything in the list above, Lowering Your Cost of Healthcare.

    Yes, Dems got so caught up in governing, we lost the essential point, ultimate lower costs.  We failed to present this essential point to the media through a few examples by trying to be honest and starting with "it's complicated".

    So, what should we do when the Supreme Court strikes down the ACA along partisan lines....

    First: to keep on track, and in unison, Obama and the White House must lead and set up the simple message (see sidebar for more on this) of YOUR COSTS ARE GOING UP because of this decision (insert example here from list above).  

    When the decision comes out: First, start bleating (in unison) of the things that Americans have just lost (see above) because of the CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST COURT.

    Second, Obama, within one week should sign an executive order EXTENDING MEDICARE AVAILABILITY TO ALL WHO WANT IT, AT COST. In Announcing it, (unannounced in prime time so all of the networks will break into their programming when they realize this is really big!) Obama at the same time should demand of the House of Representatives a funding bill for the extra costs, if any. (Obama can spend it but the Republicans have to raise it, says so in my copy of the Constitution).

    Third, acknowledge that yes, it's political because of the conservative activist Supreme Court's political decision, but the Executive Order helps Americans apolitically by BRINGING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTHCARE, immediately.

    Sidebar: Leadership: because of Obama's coming from the Senate he leans toward compromise versus leading.  This is why former Governors make better Presidents (Roosevelt, either), because they don't try to compromise, at this juncture, Obama is totally justified in acting unilaterally.   He says he wants people to make him do something (GBLT, DADT, DOMA, DREAM Act).  I say this is the time for him to charge ahead, lead and have the people support him.  I note that his being pushed is on narrow issues and special interest groups, Obama needs to, and must  lead on the broad ones - the Economy and Health Care.

    ... the watchword of true patriotism: "Our country - when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right." - Carl Schurz; Oct. 17, 1899

    by NevDem on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 10:02:59 AM PDT

  •  The Defense Establishment Is Contra-ObamaCare In (0+ / 0-)

    the sense that in several of their periodicals they call it the greatest enemy of the United States of America. Since they affect the media more than you care to know, this is not unexpected.

  •  Flawed methodology (0+ / 0-)

    Hopefully I'm not the only one who can point out the glaring flaw in the analysis. Namely with the 6 'key concepts'.

    The three anti-AHA concepts are very broad (govt involvement, higher taxes, rationing care). These three concepts can be tied into most any story about ACA.

    In contrast, two of the pro-AHA concepts (greedy insurance and pre-existing coverage) are very narrow. They can only be brought up regarding specific aspects of ACA. In comparison, the one broad concept (more competition) is very similar in number of mentions to the anti-AHA concepts.

    Thus, the analysis is really comparing apples and oranges. If it had been a comparison of 6 broad concepts I imagine that the difference would not be statistically different. As much as you'd like to blame the problems of ACA on messaging, this study does not support such an argument.

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