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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is playing politics with its vote to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, an action she said that even she didn't seek as House Speaker when she thought someone was legitimately deserving of it.

"I could have arrested Karl Rove on any given day," Pelosi said to laughter, during a sit-down with reporters. "I'm not kidding. There's a prison here in the Capitol ... If we had spotted him in the Capitol, we could have arrested him."

Rove was senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to former President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2007.

Asked on what grounds she could have arrested Rove, Pelosi replied, "Oh, any number. But there were some specific ones for his being in contempt of Congress. But we didn't."

That's just sad, Rep. Pelosi. You claim that Chairman Issa and the rest of the Republicans on the committee voted to recommend frivolous contempt charges for Attorney General Eric Holder, but back when you had legitimate, justifiable grounds to arrest Karl Rove for contempt, you held back?

Congratulations, you've effectively just admitted you were negligent as Speaker of the House of Representatives in carrying out your responsibilities to the country.

Rep. Pelosi, you should have asserted your proper powers and responsibilities at the time and gone after Rove on contempt charges. Today, I don't want to hear about it.

To be sure, I commend Rep. Pelosi for her explicit connection between Rep. Issa's attacks on A.G. Holder and the A.G.'s role in fighting Republican efforts toward voter suppression in Florida and elsewhere.

That said, however political the investigation may be, the committee and the public deserve to know as much as possible about the "Fast and Furious" fiasco.

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  •  seems more a contrast than a comparison... (1+ / 0-)
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    Simplify undercut your own argument about A.G. Holder via the comparison to Karl Rove...
    •  Fair point; I axed that line (1+ / 0-)
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      I was trying to make a point about how bringing them up in the same statement associates them in the public eye, but it ended up muddling my own argument.

      Besides, we should be encouraging politicians to discuss subtleties openly.

      Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

      by Simplify on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 12:36:16 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Why Did She Need To Spot Rove Hanging Around..... (0+ / 0-)

    the capitol?  She had the authority to order the sargent-at-arms to cuff Rove & march his criminal rear end to the capitol jail....wherever he was hanging out.

    What was she waiting for?  

    •  actually, I think a resolution was needed... (7+ / 0-)

      ...seems Rove, Miers, & Bolten's contempt required a resolution before it could be acted on via arrest. It was voted on in committee and not submitted or passed as a resolution.

      As for what else might've been occupying her attention...

      It's not as if the new Democrat-controlled Congress did nothing during 2007.

      It gave the nation's lowest paid workers their first raise in a decade, raising the minimum wage...Congress also cut in half the interest rates on federal student loans and boosted annual Pell grants for post high-school education...Bush signed the bill after initially threatening to veto it.

      And in the year's firmest push-back, Congress for the first time overrode one of Bush's vetoes, on a $23 billion bill for restoring hurricane-ravaged wetlands along the Gulf Coast and other water projects...

      Democrats scored other political victories as well...a Democrat-led investigation revealed a troubled Justice Department and forced Alberto Gonzales, a longtime presidential friend, from the attorney general's office.

      Democrats...found themselves repeatedly outmaneuvered, unable to break bill-killing GOP filibusters with 60 votes in a Senate where Democrats held only what effectively is a 51-49 majority.

      *emphasis mine*


  •  I thought about this today (10+ / 0-)

    Dems treat congress like a victorian gentlemen and ladies club, observing all customs and membership priveledges.  It's almost as if they are afraid to do something bold like go after Rove if indeed they had the goods on him because they are afraid the country would be somehow destabilized or government would be even more despised.  Republicans approach congress as the battle ground of american ideoligies, a cutthroat sinister dirty tricks anything goes in the name of ideology battle ground.  They're not afraid to play dirty and we're afraid to play hardball.

    "I drank what?!" -Socrates

    by bagman on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 01:11:43 AM PDT

  •  great, more pointless fucking whining (7+ / 0-)

    Meanwhile, the Republicans are doubling down to take more seats in the House and Senate. Quit with the tantrums and get in the fucking game or STFU.

    All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

    by subtropolis on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 01:31:41 AM PDT

    •  Well, yes.... (1+ / 0-)
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      ....we know damn well the Democrats don't really care to do anything for their base unless they have to. But the Republicans can and do and that's scary as hell, so I'd rather have half a chance with the Democrats than less than zero chance with the Republicans.

      •  Not personal to you, metal, I think the same way (0+ / 0-)

        sometimes, but....

        Can't progressives make choices?  Are we really so lost in space that we can't say "A is much better than B so I'm gonna vote for him/her"?

        Why is it always "A sucks but B is worse so I'm gonna hold my nose & vote for A, though A's not really my real choice.  And every time I tell you about my choice I'm going to tell you how reluctant I am to make it."

        How can we then choose what to eat for lunch?  "The chicken should be fish but the meatloaf would be worse so I'll have the chicken...but I'm gonna keep thinking about the fish that's not on the menu, and telling you about it, and I damn well won't enjoy my chicken."

        •  The problem is not so much.... (1+ / 0-)
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          ....with liberals, interestingly enough. We get disappointed more often than not with whatever uninspiring centrist the party nominates, but we go out, go door to door, vote, etc. Ironically, it's actually those independent voters who don't show up, mostly since we run bland, ideology-free candidates supposedly designed to cater to the "vital center" or whatever bullshit the media comes up with.

  •  A prison in the Capitol? (0+ / 0-)

    Nothing but the best for Turdblossom; send him straight to Gitmo or any other extraordinary rendition summer camp.

    Don't forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than face the reality of being poor. - John Dickinson ("1776")

    by banjolele on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 01:35:31 AM PDT

  •  This (6+ / 0-)
    Congratulations, you've effectively just admitted you were negligent as Speaker of the House of Representatives in carrying out your responsibilities to the country.
    There are enough of us that have spoken out across a whole broad range of matters where the same point can easily be made, so they  either are or absolutely should be fully aware not only of what they're doing, but that many of us are too.  And no, enough evidence is now in to show that no multi-n to the nth-dimensional chess strategy of wizardlike genius is being played here.  But yet, not a single one of those who ever berated anyone with that argument is ever ever ever going to acknowledge they were pulling it straight out of their ass and that those who called it either naivete, caving or hegemonic praxis now stand a much greater chance of being proven right right.  Of course, as with that greatest modern exercise in political pragmatism, the invasion and occupation of Iraq, those of us who rejected and refuted the hegemonic narrative remain marginalized, scorned and silenced.  When we open out mouths, they fill them with pepper spray.  So we stay silent.  Good luck with that as a long-term operating plan.

    The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges. ~ Anatole France

    by ActivistGuy on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 01:40:06 AM PDT

    •  What I don't get.... (5+ / 0-)
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      TracieLynn, DarkestHour, Simplify, prfb, JVolvo why Democrats even bother making threats when they have no intention of ever carrying them out. And then they whine when Republicans do just that. Democrats could have impeached Reagan in 1987, but they chose not to, figuring that on top of Nixon, that would make Republicans uncooperative and thirsty for revenge. Well, guess what, once Republicans seized power after the '94 midterms, they became uncooperative and impeached Bill Clinton at the earliest opportunity. They will do the same to Obama, given half a chance.

  •  B/c it's a stupid idea for Congress to arrest (2+ / 0-)
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    elmo, joe from Lowell

    members of the Administration. It's stupid no matter who does it and whether they deserve it.

  •  If Dems ever regain control of House (1+ / 0-)
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    Nancy better not be the speaker.

    The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

    by ctexrep on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 03:20:40 AM PDT

  •  Our side has a problem with lamenes and cowardice. (3+ / 0-)
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    blueoasis, CentralMass, skyounkin

    We could have arrested Rove and Bush right there, but choose to for various excuses.  We see it even in the purely activist side - the options we don't even consider, the ballsy moves that might be costly but would have a real impact, etc.  Code Pink occasionally puts on lame theater stunts pretending a citizens's arrest of some war criminal Republican and then is quietly led away by security instead of actually slamming the bastard to the ground, hog tying him, and dragging to a police station along with anyone who intereferes.  I want to some liberals with balls and brains working together.

    "I'm going to rub your faces in things you try to avoid." - Muad'Dib

    by Troubadour on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 03:36:00 AM PDT

  •  I agree that this should be public (0+ / 0-)

    and lets see where the trails shall lead.  Issa is such a smug little snake, we all should know why he supported it in the first place.  Redact the names of the undercover folks and bring the whole rotten apple in for review.  Why not call their bluff and let them squirm in their ivory towers.  Release the Beast.

  •  Nancy Pelosi is a smart politician (0+ / 0-)

    She can see that political witch hunts don't end well for the party pursuing them.

    How did the Clinton impeachment turn out for Republicans? You want to copy that folly, folks?

    Not me. But it's good for us that Republicans keep making the same mistake. This Holder witch hunt isn't going to come out any better for them then their Clinton panty sniffing caper did.

  •  Um, no. (0+ / 0-)

    You are never required to issue contempt charges.

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:48:04 AM PDT

  •  This "Contempt of Congress" BS Sideshow By The (0+ / 0-)

    RepubliCONS against Holder, means that Holder was effective in stopping the GOP's voter suppression tactics in South Carolina and Florida.  Which means that Holder needs to continue to go after GOP governors who try to disenfranchise likely Democratic voters, regardless of any witch hunts the RepubliCONS in the House engage in.

  •  But she has kegs and kegs (1+ / 0-)
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    of dry powder!

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