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It's official. Jim DeMint is just John Calhoun reincarnated with less busy eyebrows. Apparently feeling the need to top Rand "THAT'S NOT CONSTITUTIONAL AND YOU CAN'T MAKE IT WAAAAAAAAAH!" Paul for hysterical response to the ACA getting upheld by the Supreme Court, DeMint has decided to embrace de facto nullification to stop the ACA from being implemented.

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) called on states to outright refuse to implement health care reform in the wake of the Supreme Court's decision upholding the law - which would amount to nullification by states.
Here's DeMint's press release and here's the key passage:
"This government takeover of health care remains as destructive, unsustainable, and unconstitutional as it was the day it was passed, unread, by a since-fired congressional majority. Now as then, our first step toward real health care reform and economic renewal remains Obamcare's full repeal, down to the last letter and punctuation mark.

"I urge every governor to stop implementing the health care exchanges that would help implement the harmful effects of this misguided law. Americans have loudly rejected this federal takeover of health care, and governors should join with the people and reject its implementation."

No word yet on whether DeMint will also be supporting launching a barrage on Fort Sumter or ordering an advance on Gettysburg.

Yes, the GOP is collectively losing its shit right now. It's a glorious thing to watch.

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  •  Yep It's Against Their Founding Document. (5+ / 0-)

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    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 10:03:59 AM PDT

  •  Jim..... (1+ / 0-)
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    commonmass

    You lost today.  Stop flailing.  It's over.  The law is constitutional.  

  •  This calls for a press release of my own! (1+ / 0-)
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    IndieGuy

    Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."

    Romney '12: Bully for America!

    by Rich in PA on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 10:09:40 AM PDT

  •  Bet my gov is right on board with that (5+ / 0-)

    Texas hasn't even started doing anything about setting up exchanges yet, and I imagine Gov. Goodhair won't be in any hurry to start just yet. Unfortunately, however many governors decide to hold their breath til they turn blue (or whatever other tantrum approach they like) it isn't going to stop the exchanges. They can do it themselves, or the feds will do it for them.

    from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

    by Catte Nappe on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 10:09:41 AM PDT

  •  Sometimes I think that the opponents of the ACA (5+ / 0-)

    have lost sight of what it is they really object to. I had my problems with the mandate myself, but at least I had an idea about why.

    Santorum: Man on Dog; Romney: Dog on Car. Mrs. Romney: Fraud on Horse. equalitymaine.org

    by commonmass on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 10:10:37 AM PDT

  •  Thanks Jim, (4+ / 0-)

    We thought Rand "No idea of US civics" Paul made the stupidest comment today on the SC ruling.  You doubled down on Paul's ignorance by invoking "nullification."  Good job.  

  •  This won't work. (2+ / 0-)
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    citizenx, wilderness voice

    None of his Teabaggers can spell "nullification".

    "It does not require many words to speak the truth." -- Chief Joseph, native American leader (1840-1904)

    by highfive on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 10:16:04 AM PDT

    •  So when could they spell enything? (2+ / 0-)
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      highfive, wilderness voice

      enything?  ennything at al?  

      Morans.

      "I speak the truth, not as much as I would, but as much as I dare, and I dare a little the more, as I grow older." --Montaigne

      by DrLori on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 10:24:36 AM PDT

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      •  But 'nullification' doesn't nullify anything (0+ / 0-)

        in this, because the alternative is already legislated, namely that the Federals will set up the exchanges, etc  themselves. So either way the exchanges will exist, but in the case of nullifiers, they won't have control over it for local conditions if they nullify. Either way, the exchanges are going to happen, with a lot of noise in the process, but they will happen.

        Of course, this was probably the intent of the actual powers that set up this sytem, insurance companies, who are perfectly prepared to cut off their supporters, the Rs, at the kneecaps when it benefits insurors.And the nullifying leaning R states are not necessarily the ones with the most people who can afford to buy on the exchanges anyway.  Either way, those  insurors who want to offer conforming plans can do it, and ultimately the nulllifiers cannot in fact stop them.

  •  Then Andrew Jackson (e.g. the President) should (5+ / 0-)

    tell DeMint what he told Calhoun.  Just as apt as it was in 1832.

    Yes I have; please give my compliments to my friends in your State and say to them, that if a single drop of blood shall be shed there in opposition to the laws of the United States, I will hang the first man I can lay my hand on engaged in such treasonable conduct, upon the first tree I can reach.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 10:23:49 AM PDT

  •  my personal bugaboo (1+ / 0-)
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    wilderness voice

    My several-times-great-uncle was elected to the US Senate as a member of the Nullifier Party from South Carolina.

  •  Curse the darkness? (0+ / 0-)

    Look, if the radical, racist, redneck, republicans feel the ACA is so horrible then they have a simple way to oppose it.  They only need wait and see how it works out, but they must either support it in the mean time or at least not do everything possible to oppose it.  

    If they are right they must give it a chance and see who is right.  They probably protest too much in order to justify their complete opposition.  If the ACA work then it is a huge slap in their collective faces and they can't afford that - in their eyes.

  •  Ya' just know if anyone goes along (0+ / 0-)

    ...with his cockamamie scheme it will be the governors of the Red states that this would most help.

    America is a COUNTRY, not a CORPORATION. She doesn't need a CEO. Vote Obama.

    by manneckdesign on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 11:23:42 AM PDT

  •  Republicans are scared (1+ / 0-)
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    wilderness voice

    They know this is going to work.  For the large numbers of people who DO have insurance, it puts power in THEIR hands and takes it away from the corporations.

    It allows workers to stand up and stop taking shitty jobs and wages just to keep insurance.  We all know someone/ourselves who have done that.

    And the best (worst?) part of all is the dem congress did it the republicans' own "free market" way.  LOL!

    This new law makes the insurace companies work for their money,.  We are no longer hostages.

    AND, anyone that has insurance through their employer now?  Nothing at all changes.  Nothing.  People are going to see that this huge, life-altering thing just doesn't happen.

    And in a few years, we get Medicare for all.

    Demented DeMint knows that.  Hence, his over-the-top, panicked statement.

    Since he is one of my Senators, I love watching him meltdown :-)

    David Koch is fucking Longshanks, and Occupy is the real Braveheart.

    by PsychoSavannah on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 11:45:19 AM PDT

  •  I am actually worried about this... (0+ / 0-)

    ... what happens to ACA if the Red State govs slow walk, or fail to act on the law?  It sounded to me like the decision about Medicaid funding allowed states to do nothing and not face penalties.

    I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

    by Hey338Too on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 12:09:34 PM PDT

    •  Their citizens will continue to be bankrupted (0+ / 0-)

      by health costs.

      Eventually their citizens will realize they are being governed by idiots.

      OK. And now we begin the part of the show where we pull out individual words and phrases of the commenter to try to determine the "real" meaning of the comment.... let the games begin.

      by hillbrook green on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 12:55:26 PM PDT

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      •  We're talking red states here... (0+ / 0-)

        ... the ones that are against critical thinking in school, the ones that think we don't need teachers and police officers.  They don't think they're being governed by idiots now, do you think they're going to get smarter because of this?

        Can the ACA stand if the red stater's don't do the right thing?

        I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

        by Hey338Too on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 01:08:53 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  It has already stood. It is law. (1+ / 0-)
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          Hey338Too

          People don't like the term "Obamacare".

          They like everything else about the ACA.

          They like not having benefits denied because of prior conditions.

          They like having their children on their policies until they can afford their own.

          They like not having a lifetime limit on benefits.

          When Social Security and Medicare were instituted, people reacted negatively to the terms "Social Security" (What is that, socialism?) and "Medicare" (government rationing of health care and a new tax). However, as was pointed out recently in another comment thread, when people were asked about the idea of everybody paying a small tax so that old people didn't starve to death or the idea of everybody paying a small tax so that old people could get good health care - those ideas enjoyed around a 60% or greater approval.

          The same thing will happen with ACA. As people understand that it isn't some black guy telling them what to do, it's popularity will grow.

          People don't like "socialism". They just like all the stuff that you get from socialism.

          The Republican Party in the form that it exists now - an unholy alliance of ignorant white people and greedy white people - is dying. What you are going to see in the next four years are its death throes.

          OK. And now we begin the part of the show where we pull out individual words and phrases of the commenter to try to determine the "real" meaning of the comment.... let the games begin.

          by hillbrook green on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 02:33:14 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  I guess 750,000+ deaths was not enough (0+ / 0-)

    One would think that this question may have been settled nearly 150 years ago... or maybe Jim DeMint slept through his history and civics classes.

    Is it too late to resurrect W.T. Sherman to remind South Carolina of their previous folly?

    Not really all that well-known, but at the end of Sherman's March to the Sea, he turned his soldiers north through South Carolina where they proceeded to take out all their frustrations and anger with and losses of the war on the people they blamed  for starting the Civil War - the people of South Carolina. After they passed through South Carolina literally stripping and burning the countryside to the ground where they passed, they proceeded through North Carolina and actually gave away food and supplies to the people of North Carolina without further looting and burning.

    One would think that a lesson like that might last a little longer than 150 years.... but them Jim DeMint is only beholden to the rich cronies who support him. He doesn't give a rat's ass about regular ordinary people.

    OK. And now we begin the part of the show where we pull out individual words and phrases of the commenter to try to determine the "real" meaning of the comment.... let the games begin.

    by hillbrook green on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 12:51:57 PM PDT

    •  As a Civil War buff, I'm aware of that (0+ / 0-)

      Sherman kept reasonable control of his troops during the march through Georgia and they were practically on their best behavior in North Carolina, but South Carolina got a Samuel L. Jackson-style case of vengeance visited down upon them. (As one solider was quoted as saying, "This is where treason began and by God, this is where it shall end!") You only have to look at what happened to Columbia to see how ruthless Sherman's troops were against the state (although Columbia's burning was partly due to fleeing Confederates burning the cotton supplies).

      Unfortunately, South Carolina didn't take the hint.

  •  So Mr. DeMint, (0+ / 0-)

    a United States Senator, is telling people to break the law.

    Doesn't that make him a domestic enemy?  

  •  UNREAD (0+ / 0-)

    I heard this coming from Boehner the other day as well, the claim that no one knows what's in ACA because it's too long to read.

    Jim, John -

    this was your job.  Maybe you should be fired.

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