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The biggest complaints I hear from Democrats in regards to McGovern’s two-state Texas-OK Strategy is, “But he’s not coming to (insert home state here), like he usually would.  How can I like a strategy that leaves us out?”

We understand being left out.  Texas Democrats have been an extinct creature since LBJ.  I mean, they’ve existed, but who would’ve known?  Why continue down the same downtrodden path of Iowa, then New Hampshire, then all the rest.  Especially when we see McGovern trailing or staying even in such Democratic strongholds of Pennsylvania and Michigan.

Obama’s landmark election of 2008 was great in that the electoral playing field was expanded to levels not seen since LBJ. Obama campaigned in North Carolina and won.  Campaigned in Virginia and won.  Strong African American communities along with college and hi-tech areas in Virginia and North Carolina helped propel Obama to victory.  Indiana fell into his column because his message resonated.

McGovern’s outlook for 2016 are far bleaker then Obama’s eight years ago.  A successful GOP president has put Pennsylvania and Michigan, let alone Ohio and Florida out of reach.  But McGovern has an idea, a new campaigning idea.  Rely on the coasts, and campaign at home.  Bank on military men, liberal cowboys, and Aggie and Sooner fans to come out in full force and propel him to victory in his home state of Texas, and his elected/adopted home state of Oklahoma.  Areas Democrats have abandoned nationally for years.  45 electoral votes that Obama wouldn’t have dreamed of getting, and 45 votes to easily offset the 49 lost by Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Virginia.  And if McGovern’s message begins to resonate, and one of those toss-ups fall into our column, or even a wild card state combo of Kansas (down 45-35) and/or Montana (down 42-35), McGovern wins easily.  Then the entire electoral map is flipped upside down.    

Any thoughts on how to lessen the pain for the Floridians and Ohioans abandoned this 2016 election cycle?

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  •  Does McGovern have a first name? (0+ / 0-)
  •  It's NOT THURSDAY! (2+ / 0-)
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    elmo, FG

    Sincerely,

    Someone who knows at least one of the WDC judges, in the sense that I've seen them post on here.

  •  The biggest complaint of the Texas-Oklahoma (1+ / 0-)
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    PDiddie

    strategy is that is doesn't exist. It doesn't exist because it is not realistic. Even with a home state candidate Oklahoma is not going Democratic and Texas won't until it goes much farther along its demographic trend line.

    I don't know what you are trying to accomplish here but whatever it is, it's not working.

    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Sun Jul 01, 2012 at 01:17:23 PM PDT

    •  Correct. Why not nominate Kathleen Seibelus (2+ / 0-)
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      elmo, Andrew C White

      because then we'd get a three-fer: Kansas (her home state, so in the bag, right?), Oklahoma, the neighboring state, because, stuff, and Texas, because women and the Dallas Cowboys.

      Sorry if that is cruel, but that is what the 4th paragraph of this diary sounds like to me.

      If we can bag Texas, we don't need Oklahoma. And an Okie doesn't help one bag Texas.

  •  Sooner fans? (0+ / 0-)

    The Aggies are in the SEC as of today. What about all those Hog and Tiger fans? Who are they voting for in November in Texas?

    And I hate to point this out, but there are a lot of Longhorns who vote for Republican. A whole lot.

    "You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think." -- Dorothy Parker, who knew someone like Jeff Gannon

    by PDiddie on Sun Jul 01, 2012 at 02:51:37 PM PDT

  •  If that's the biggest complaint (0+ / 0-)

    you're hearing, you must not be listening to very many people.

    Let's just start with the obvious: why do you think McGovern has any chance of  winning even the Democratic primary in Texas or Oklahoma, much less the general election?

    And a further obvious point: you have to get 270 electoral votes at least to win the presidency. Two states is not going to do it.

    •  just trying to start a new conversation (0+ / 0-)

      maybe not this year, probably not in 2016 (when this piece takes place) but sometime in the near future Texas will be ours, and Oklahoma looks alot like Colorado doesn't it?  Super red and then it isn't?

      Here's this mockup map I made.  Its probably not doable in 2012, but imagine the playing field if those two states could be ours.

       http://ElectoralMap.net/...

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