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   The power brokers of the conservative movement are fighting a viscous, and dieing battle to hold onto the white, male power structure they feel is slipping away. It is almost painfully easy to illustrate that the fight from the top of the conservative movement is not about our countries greatness. In fact, movement conservative elites are trying so hard to hold onto power they would even destroy the country in the process. Let me explain.

    The first piece of evidence comes from the unofficial spokesman for the conservative movement. Rush Limbaugh said, "When women got the right to vote is when it all went downhill." Let's pull this apart a bit. What is the "it" that went downhill after women got the vote?

    Since women got the vote, America experienced the Golden Age of Capitalism. Obviously women voting was not a direct cause of this, but one certainly cannot describe America as the conservative "it" that went downhill when we were about to experience the largest capitalist economic expansion in the history of the planet.

    Women got the vote in 1920. Just a short twenty years later, Henry Luce penned a seminal essay labeling the century to come, "The American Century". So, when Limbaugh and other conservatives say it all went to hell when women could vote, it could not have been America they were really concerned with. Heck, those woman who got the vote in 1920, they literally birthed what has been called "Our greatest generation".

     What are movement conservatives lamenting the decline of, if not America? In their zero sum game of power it can be only thing. In their minds, giving power to women, must automatically by default take power from them. I will quote directly another movement spokesperson, Bill O'Reilly. "They want to break down the white, Christian, male power structure,...", and John McCain's response was, "No, you're right." So, on of the top mouthpieces for the movement and the movements last political choice for president both support my premise. Enthusiastically.

      Carefully examine everything that is being done by Tea Party Congresses, State Legislatures, and Conservative governors. We literally spent the American Century trying to expand access to voting booths. It wasn't just women. Our leaders broke down barriers to voting for the poor, minorities, and women. A rational person would conclude that giving power to minorities and women does not diminish your power. In fact, it made our country stronger, and by consequence all people stronger. Logically the only ones who could fear losing power by increasing voting are the white males. The ones who always had the vote. So, if the American Century and our Golden Age of Capitalism were typified by an expansion of voting, what does it say about those trying to make it harder to vote?

    The conservative movement wants nothing less than a repeal of the 20th century. Look what the leading conservative literature recently said about when things were great. In the National Review they said, "“most of the world worked better in colonial times,”. Worked better for who? Answer that question and I am pretty sure you cannot deny my premise.

     What else can you possibly say about a movement that has spent the first part of this century trying to dismantle the American Century. What can you say is their goal, when they tear down everything our Greatest Generation did. Whose power are they trying to protect? What do they really care about?

     We experienced the American Century and the Golden Age of Capitalism AFTER women got the right to vote. We experienced the greatest rise to power AFTER the New Deal. We rose to greatness AFTER child labor laws were enacted. We rose to greatness AFTER Medicare reduced senior poverty from 1 in 3 to 1 in 10. We rose to greatness AFTER the the Labor and Civil Rights movements.

    Certainly none of these accomplishments hurt America, and were part of our greatness. Our conservative movement wants to get rid of all of these. What are conservatives fighting for when they try and dismantle the New Deal? What group feels threatened by Child Labor Laws? The expansion of voting rights in the 20th century certainly benefited many new groups, but who are the only ones who might feel threatened? Those who had a monopoly on the franchise before.

     In conclusion, our last century saw a tremendous rise in power for our country. We have a far ways to go, but we added entire classes of people to the American dream. Historians, economists, and journalists all documented this rise. Now the conservative movement wants to repeal almost ever major thing involved in our century of greatness. You cannot logically conclude these movement elites care about securing American greatness. You can only logically conclude they are trying to protect their own power.

Update Right on cue, the Nuge goes ahead and adds to the Patriotism of returning to pre-greatness America. A time that was great for a few. You know, when the correct folks had freedom. Ted Nugent wonders if we would have been better having lost the Civil War.

Cross Post at MNProgressiveProject

Originally posted to AlecMN on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 05:52 AM PDT.

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  •  Sigh. Where to begin? Many fools who vote (25+ / 0-)

    republican and style themsleves as conservatives are racists and chauvinists.  Some of them are on radio and tv, spewing their poison all over the general public.  That is sad and it makes me angry.  In fact, it makes me weep for my country and my fellow humans.

    However, these bitter, sad idiots are not the "powers that be".  They are useful fools for those with real power.  The truly powerful own people like limbaugh and let him spout that nonsense not because they believe it or want to form another confederacy but because they 1) draw more useful idiots to support the powers that be (big banks, multi-nationals, the global ultra rich) and 2) they DIVIDE THE ENEMY (US, YOU AND ME) into white versus black versus brown versus yellow versus men versus women versus gays, etc.  They prevent the potentially revolutionary middle class from uniting behind the REAL ISSUES - wealth and income disparity, workers rights, health care - i.e., CLASS ISSUES.

    You, although well meaning, play right into their hands.  If they were able, they would congratulate you for posting "white males are bad" all over a web site pushing serious, urgent stances on issues for the poor and the dying middle classes.

    I'm a white male.  I have known and know some who are and have been part of the ruling elite, from the 1970s forward.  I can assure you that white male power is not their goal.  Accumulating as much money and power as possible and returning us to a pre-enlightenment economic and political organization is their goal and they don't give a damn if their allies and fellow feudal lords and ladies are white, black, brown, yellow, red, gay, or little green martians, as long as they have the gold to qualify and buy a castle.  You can take that to the bank.

    The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

    by Saint Jimmy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 06:41:40 AM PDT

    •  You pull out the same thing I've seen time and (11+ / 0-)

      time again.  The claim that this is really a class issue and not a race issue.  The fact of the matter is that white males who are not of the elite do benefit from being white and male.  Far too often people, white males for the most part, criticize pointing that out as being divisive or not looking at the real problem.  But that is one of the real problems.

      Accumulating as much money and power as possible and returning us to a pre-enlightenment economic and political organization is their goal and they don't give a damn if their allies and fellow feudal lords and ladies are white, black, brown, yellow, red, gay, or little green martians, as long as they have the gold to qualify and buy a castle.
      And if you look at the people who can buy a castle they are overwhelmingly white and male.  That is the white male power structure.

      There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 09:27:19 AM PDT

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      •  Anyone who is on the 'power' side of any divide (14+ / 0-)

        benefits to some extent.  Whites benefit from being white, men benefit from being men, heterosexuals benefit from being hetero, and Christians benefit from being Christian in the United States, where these are all common divides of power vs less power.

        But where is the one overwhelming divide in the country?  Have vs have not, .01% vs everyone else.  

        While much of what you said is true, the greatest divide we face is indeed a monetary one.  The fact that the .01% is largely composed of white males is an artifact of the fact that Europeans (who were heterosexual Christian whites for whom men retained most power) were the 'successful' invaders of North America, and thus got a monetary and power jump on the other sides of each divide.

        But I can assure you that the white males in the .01% don't really give much of a shit about the rest of the white males in the country any more than the do the women, the people of color, the homosexuals, or the non-Christians.  In their eyes, we're here to serve them just as any of the rest of their 'inferiors'.

        Sadly, lots of 'useful idiots' still buy into their lies and keep preserving that power, built, as the previous commenter pointed out, in dividing ourselves one against the other, instead of united against them.

        •  I wouldn't say that white men had (7+ / 0-)

          a deliberate "brotherhood" of sorts. White males don't really have to stick together or "look out" for other white males but it's not like they don't still take advantage of the nepotism that we all benefit from in our life experiences. White males tend to be friends with other white males. White males tend to have power. They pass it on to their friends like anybody else would. More white male power results.

          You can't just shrug this off as a naive coincidence when the advantages that are set for white men create an imbalance in the opportunities that are available for everyone else. White men are the ones with the power to restore some balance. If they're oblivious to all their advantages, they have to be really blind or just being insincere.

          "It's not enough to acknowledge privilege. You have to resist." -soothsayer

          by GenXangster on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 09:59:00 AM PDT

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          •  However, should you somehow (and I'm not sure how) (1+ / 0-)
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            "level the playing field" for all races, I am convinced that nothing truly significant would change.  We would still suffer from the most important inequity - economic.  Most would still have little access to a good education or to good health care, etc.  

            The conservatives have gleefully stoked the fires of racial discord for decades.  They love it when racial firebrands of all racial and ethnic groups trumpet the politics of race.  It is a key reason that they can compete politically with true liberals in the south, the midwest, and, quite frankly, elsewhere.  Without the festering race jealousies and anger, they are politically dead.  Without that, they are a fading relic with nothing to offer 21st century America.

            The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

            by Saint Jimmy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 10:12:28 AM PDT

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          •  Of course. (9+ / 0-)

            And, btw, JayRaye took his comment and made it a diary, with the title 'White Male Power is a Myth', and I took exception with him over in that diary as well for being overly broad.

            White privilege, male privilege, and so on are all as real as anything around.  I just think that in specific circumstances one has to balance which privileges are underlying specific actions and beliefs, and I think among the dizzying heights of mammon-worshippers, protection of the pocketbook outweighs all other concerns.  They'll compromise on racist, sexist, or homophobic beliefs if it means making a ton of money, because money is the center of their universe.

            Down where the rest of us live, white privilege or male privilege or whatever other intersection of privileges will become far more important on a daily basis, because they're everywhere.

            •  JayRaye is a she not a he. (5+ / 0-)

              And JayRaye knows plenty about sexism having been one of the first women members ever in my Local of the IUOE. We women were out numbered 1 to 1000 back then (1977-1984). I also saw how my African American Union Brothers were treated.

              But Institutionalized Racism and Sexism is not the same as "privilege." We die on the job and the Boss still rakes in the profits: that's privilege.

              After 3 or 4 years the guys calmed down a bit and became more accepting. Not saying everything was rosy, but better.

              White working class men are not the enemy. They need a kick in the butt from time to time, and I gave them a few kicks in the right direction, but they are not the enemy.

              When we put them into the same category as the Ruling Class elites, those of real privilege and power, we make them the enemy.

              As a feminist, I fight inequality; as a Socialist, I fight for the unity of my Class. The two fights are NOT mutually exclusive.

              WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For May: Martyrs of the San Diego Free Speech Fight, Spring 1912.

              by JayRaye on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 06:10:56 PM PDT

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              •  My post, as stated right away, was about leaders (2+ / 0-)
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                My post was meant to take on the ruling and propaganda elite that are the leaders of the conservative movement, not the rank and file. In this country there are two classes, really. those who trade a skill for a wage, and those who trade capital,human or otherwise. My beef is with the conservative movement directors, not the foot soldiers below.

                In the end, I was just trying to point out that it is kind of silly to call patriotic a movement that is trying to repeal every bit of progress from our greatest century.

                •  AlecMN, (2+ / 0-)
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                  I tipped, rec'd, & repub'd your diary.

                  I think it is a good diary.

                  But I did have some concerns with it which I tried to address here:


                  WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For May: Martyrs of the San Diego Free Speech Fight, Spring 1912.

                  by JayRaye on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:30:47 PM PDT

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                  •  Thanks for the continuation of the commentary (2+ / 0-)
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                       Thanks. It is a good continuation of the commentary. I think that pitting worker against worker, private sector laborer vs. public sector laborer lately, is part of the power structures manipulation. I was trying as much as possible to address the power structure that manipulates all the counter-productive attitudes you address. Thank you for your contribution.

        •  As my son is apt to say "I am going to check (12+ / 0-)

          my privilege at the door" I am a 54 year old white man. I hear what white men say when only white men are around. And many white men believe life is a zero sum game. That any gain made by a woman or ethnic minority is a loss for a white men. That more blacks in college means few whites. Ignoring the fact that colleges have gotten bigger.

          My son says American history starts with Bacon's rebellion. The last time lower class blacks and whites stood together against the wealthy. Blacks were enslaved in part because they were black and less likely to blend in with white people or Native Americans. And it has been divide and conquer based on race in America since.

          In Ireland it was also divide and conquer. Only on the basis of religion. If you did not belong to a Loyal Orange Order you did not get a job in a factory or many shops or teaching positions or anything else except farm laborer. And to join the Order you had to swear an Oath promising upon pain of hell to never be a catholic. It was a religious test. And it lasted until the 1980s.

          In Rwanda the Belgian colonists in the 19th century set Hutu vs Tutsi at odds with each other to the benefit of the Belgians. This eventually ended in the worst casr of genocide since WWII with attackers egged on by talk radio.

          In Vietnam the social elite were French speaking and Catholic. They rode roughshod over the Buddhist majority in the country.

          I would say that American exceptional ism is very close to a white power movement. But that is because the power elite in this country is white.

          •  I think that 'zero sum game' is key. (11+ / 0-)

            I also think it's incredibly wrong, but I think it's key to why such divides become more than mere uneasiness with 'others'.  The notion that if group A prospers, group B will automatically decline is what makes group B so fierce in protecting what it perceives as its privileges.  And in small, limited circumstances, it's true.  If there's one sandwich available, if one person eats it all, person B goes hungry.

            The mistake, I think, lies in not realizing that in working together, we can be more efficient, and produce more sandwiches for everyone.  So maybe guy A doesn't get to eat ALL the sandwiches, but he still gets more than half a sandwich if he works together with guy B, because they can create more than just one sandwich working as a team, rather than wasting time and effort working against each other.  Maybe they're even efficient enough that both A and B get a sandwich and a half each while working together.

            •  Thank you so much for your reply (4+ / 0-)
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              I agree with completely. I think that Karl Marx has an interesting take on the idea that the society is like a skyscraper. It has an exterior (family life, race relations, etc) but it is hanging from a superstructure. The superstructure is the economy and social organizations form and grow on that structure.

            •  "He who dies with the most toys wins." (7+ / 0-)

              This used to just be an amusing, oddball bumper sticker.  But in today's world, it is akin to a death rattle for humanity.   It has literally became a scriptural war cry and tenet of the GOP.  As such, it is a handy substitution in their eyes for an extremely pesky, nuisance verse....."It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven." Matt. 19:24

        •  Teddy's world = Romneyland (1+ / 0-)
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          Teddy's world view that waxes nostalgic for a world where the SOUTH WON is the same old warmed over rhetoric that protects a small group of wealthy elites who take advantage of our ignorance and racism.  Teddy's world, like Romneyland, is a world where the people who are enslaved don't matter while the emotions and feelings of the rich do.  Romney's vacation in toney New Hamphersire boating and jet skiing with Ann is emblamatic of just how ignorant the people voting for this fantasyland are.  Once in office, they will finish the job of dismantling America so only the rich can enjoy what is left of the land.  

          In Teddy's world only the rich matter.  In Romneyland, exploiting our raciscm, envy and ignorance rains supreme.  Our task is to continue to pull back the curtain on Teddy and Romney for the obvious charade it is.  

      •  Sure, most of the power elite are white males (0+ / 0-)

        but the issues that truly affect people have nothing to do with race or gender.  The ultra rich who fund the republican party don't care whether their political puppets and pundits are black or brown or women.  I can cite numerous examples for you, should you care, and the fact that many of these minorities and women have been in high positions has meant exactly nothing.

        Also, pointing out that "white males" are more priveleged IS divisive and one of the major reasons democrats have lost large voting blocks.  Many white males are fearful of the race rhetoric coming out of some places in the democratic party but, other than the rhetoric about race, many of them would vote democrat.  However, many who are not racists don't feel welcome in the democrat party and I'm not sure I blame them.  Who would feel welcome in a party where they occassionally hear that, by definition, they are a problem and where some make assumptions about them because of their race and gender?

        The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

        by Saint Jimmy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 10:02:13 AM PDT

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        •  Dammit, I backspaced and lost a long comment. (5+ / 0-)

          by accidentally flipping myself back to the front page.

          In short, I think this comment goes more off the rails.

          White privilege exists, and it severely impacts the everyday lives of almost every person of color.  Ditto male privilege, Christian privilege, heterosexual privilege, and so on.

          You (and I) are not 'a problem by definition' by virtue of our lack of melanin or testicles.  But you can certainly become part of the problem by denying that such divisions don't exist and don't matter.

          •  I'll grant you this, there are some who would (1+ / 0-)
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            still deny opportunity based on race and gender but I just don't see that as very common, any longer.  I grew up in a very diverse town and have always lived in very divese neighborhoods.  I have purposefully stayed away from serile, lilly white suburbs because I find them hugely boring and I just haven't seen many people at all that would deny talent or ability based on race or gender.... and I live and work in Dallas, Texas - hardly a bastion of free thinking liberalism.  

            We do have laws against such practices, thank God, even though they are difficult to enforce.  

            The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

            by Saint Jimmy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 10:42:29 AM PDT

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            •  It goes beyond just explicitly (4+ / 0-)
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              denying opportunity.  The idea that racism is just a bunch of people not liking people who aren't white is incredibly misleading.  We have an institutional problem that systemically disenfranchises and reduces opportunity for people of color.  Things like having less of a chance of getting an interview based on having a "black" name, which is incredibly common and nearly impossible to regulate, are just one small part of that.

              There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

              by AoT on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 12:59:18 PM PDT

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              •  Sadly, some of what you describe occurs. (0+ / 0-)

                However, I think we have to be very careful not to alienate those who are not guilty.  I think we (moderates and liberals) have done that to an extent and I think it has hurt liberal candidates more than we want to know.

                The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

                by Saint Jimmy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:24:22 PM PDT

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                •  You mean we shouldn't alienate those (3+ / 0-)
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                  who think they aren't guilty.  Because a hell of a lot of people are guilty of doing these things subconsciously.  If people are actually concerned about taking down the oligarchs then they need to stop getting so damn defensive when they are criticized for things they do wrong, especially when it comes to race.  Because I see it all the time, people yelling about how we need to stop worrying about race, and it's almost always white people.  That's not a coincidence.

                  There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

                  by AoT on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:33:31 PM PDT

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        •  White males left the party when the party (5+ / 0-)

          embraced civil rights in the 1960s. They did not leave because they were accused of white privilege, they left because the saw themselves as losing privilege.

          If you think that the way to keep the party together is to ignore injustice then you value politics over policy. Republicans used to have a variety of views on civil rights. It was OK to vote for the civil rights act of 1965 if you were a moderate Republican. Then conservative whites left the Democratic Party and found a home in the Republican party. And there is no room to support civil rights there. And we lost elections because of it. But are you willing to tell two generations of racial minorities and women that support there equal rights was a mistake?

          How many Democrats did Reagan win with the welfare queen rhetoric? And if they were persuaded by that argument were they good democrats? I mean what do we stand for policy wise? If we stand not for freedom and equality than why bother?

          •  I said nothing about denying injustice. Also, (1+ / 0-)
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            white males did not leave the party in the 1960s.  What a huge, false genealization.  Please stop seeing white males as your enemy.  Your over generalizations empower your enemy.  

            The enemy is corporate and rich and knows only one color - gold.

            The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

            by Saint Jimmy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 04:33:05 PM PDT

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            •  Look at the numbers for the 68 election. Read (1+ / 0-)
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              Nixonland. Study Kevin Phillips Southern Strategy. Examine the passage of the civil rights acts of 64 and 65. I do not see white men as my enemies. I see them as my reference group because I am a white man. But I understand that most of the bad things that have happened in this country have been led by white men. We have most of the power so we get most of the blame. White male voters used to be majority democrats. then the civil rights movement happened. Now white men are majority republican while the republican party has moved to the right on civil rights issues.

              In 1968 Wallace formed a third Southern anti civil rights party and denied the south to Humphrey. He also peeled off conservative Democrats from Humphrey and cost him states in the Industrial belt. Wallace's third party was the transition for many whites into the Republican Party after the Democratic swung left with McGovern in 72. I am not overgeneralizing. And I cite sources. Where are yours?

              The fact that Wallace was able to get 46 electoral college votes and prevent Humphrey from winning Illinois and Ohio cost Humphrey the Presidency. That is fact, not overgenralization. Nixon got 301 EC votes Humphrey got 191. Illinois and Ohio would have given Humphrey 52 more votes,  for a total of 289 EC votes.

      •  all white men may but only a handful actually can (2+ / 0-)
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        Society gives white men greater freedom than it gives other groups, but it would be a mistake to argue that this freedom carries with it the ability to exercise it.  Yes, society says that we need to be free to do whatever we want at all times with no consequences because we're awesome, but at the same time, society has an awful lot to say about what white men are supposed to want, and at least within white male circles, there is a price to pay for failing to conform.

        The class/race confusion stems from the gap between this Nietzchean superman role assigned to us by both our own people and everyone else, and our lived experience which is usually anything but.

        To those who say the New Deal didn't work: WWII was also government spending

        by Visceral on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 10:28:24 AM PDT

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    •  Power Elite (3+ / 0-)
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      may be cynically exploiting white male fears of waning power while colloborating with anyone, anywhere to consolidate their own power.  However, if they are so completely pragmatic, how come there are no female members of the Bohemian Grove, for example?  I think there's some other stuff going on here, and that the diary writer got much of it right.

      Let the Bush tax cuts expire.

      by Rona on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 09:41:25 AM PDT

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      •  I'm not sure what power the "Bohemian Grove" (0+ / 0-)

        has.  What have they voted on lately?  To qoute Stalin, "How many divisions do they have"?  However, I CAN point you to rabidly conservative members f congress, legislatures, the Supreme Court, etc., etc., who are women and minorities.

        The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

        by Saint Jimmy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 10:29:01 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, what is this energy that animates (1+ / 0-)
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        this movement?  It seems like the same frantic energy that animated the christian crusades, and any of the historical movements that wanted to control as much of the world as possible by any means, and men seem to be easier to recruit than women...

      •  For those who doubt the "power structure" of (0+ / 0-)

        Bohemian Grove, for example, here is a tale:

        Suppose you are invited to a corporate board meeting as a fly on the wall.  

        Each board member is giving a presentation on some aspect of the business which they have researched in order to "earn" their $100,000 a year "salary" for sitting in on 4 of these meetings per year.

        As they go through the presentations, each cites the data, "An increase of 4 point 3 percent"; "Saw a decrease in absenteeism of 9 point 1 percent."  

        On fellow gets up and doesn't have his speech memorized or really even know what he's talking about. He also knows next to nothing about math. (He was chosen for the board because the chairman enjoys his jokes while golfing {and you think I jest!} )But he does have his powerpoint slides.  

        Reading his slides, he comes to a number and blurts out, "Sixteen DOT eight percent" ("dot" rather than "point).  He tells a few jokes. The chairman laughs loudly.  At this sign of approval, everyone applauds.

        Tomorrow, as the board members go back to their own companies where they incestuously sit on each others' boards, talking with underlings, they say, "I want you to cut 4 DOT 75 percent of our costs."  

        They've never said "four point seven five" as "four DOT seven five," but they do so now.  A meme is born.  And spreads, because everyone wants to talk like the boss.

        Within a week, within over a dozen corporations across the nation, "point" has been replaced by the ignorant idiot's "dot" in all discussions of numbers.

         You think I'm making this up, don't you?  ;-)

        Now replace that "dot" with a meme:  A way of looking at economics.  A theory of banking.  A new proposal of a new investment vehicle.  The concept that "free trade will make us rich!"

        Get these powerful people together. Let loose the memes.

        And I guarantee you that before the end of the month, tens, if not hundreds of thousands of corporate workers throughout the world will be parroting the bosses' thoughts.  

        Sooner or later, political fortunes will rise and fall, depending upon how well-paid corporate managers in the suburbs are voting.  

        And they'll be voting along the lines of the invalid theories and lame-brained ideas spouted by their CEOs who "get new ideas" at events like Bohemian Grove.

        "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

        by YucatanMan on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:58:24 PM PDT

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    •  While I agree with much of what you say (6+ / 0-)

      I don't think the diarist is specifically addressing the 'powers that be'.  Conservatives aren't just elected or appointed officials.  What they overwhelmingly are, though, is white, Christian, heterosexual, and to a lesser extent male.  They've generally had very poor ability to convince people of color or gays that Conservatism is any benefit to them, because it is most apparently not, but thanks to better media indoctrination, have managed to fool more women into thinking that Conservatism will be of value to them.

      So while you comment makes more sense in terms of 'the ruling elite', in terms of Conservatives as a whole, I think the diarist has valid points.

      •  I'm still not convinced. Economic conservatism, (1+ / 0-)
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        at this juncture in history, is of no value to over 99 percent of the population, including an overwhelming majority of white males.  It simply does NOTHING for them.  I'm a white male.  My son is a white male.  During the past 30 years, being white males has meant precisely nothing.  

        While the majority of the very rich are white males, some are minorities and women and conservative economics is very beneficial to them, right now.

        The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

        by Saint Jimmy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 10:35:27 AM PDT

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        •  Of course it's of no value to them. (5+ / 0-)

          But there are still millions of Americans who buy into that BS hookk line and sinker, despite it being hurtful to their own interests.  They're fools, but they're 'Conservative' fools.

          And being white males has meant a hell of a lot to you over the last 30 years.  It's kept you from being killed, from being jailed, from being harassed repeatedly by police.  It lets you speed past a cop who then pulls over the black guy doing the exact same speed.

          It's let you get better mortgage loans, better chances of being hired for jobs, going to colleges, making more money.  If you break down on a road with low traffic, it's a lot more likely that someone will offer you a ride to a gas station or police station.

          What it hasn't gotten you in 30 years is into the power elite, or massive wealth.  But it's given you a lot more chances and opportunities than you seem to think on a daily basis.

          •  That IS probably true. I have little doubt that, (0+ / 0-)

            at some point, I was provided with something or spared some unpleasant situation because I'm white.  However, I now sense - and I can't prove it - that, in practical situations, race now means little or nothing but that CLASS means a hell of a lot.  The size of your bank account and your economic class connections (or mummy's and daddy's wealth and connections) now mean almost everything, regardless of race or gender.

            The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

            by Saint Jimmy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 10:53:35 AM PDT

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        •  Then why has there not been any significant (4+ / 0-)

          protests or strikes against the system. If the economy does not work for most white men then why are there no white men in the streets demanding change. Why do so many white men vote against their economic interests? Why do working people listen to right wing radio? Why have labor unions become so despised by working people? Why do the poor get blamed fro the economic catastrophe instead of the bankers?

          Why do so many white people believe the lies told about President Obama? Why do most white people know who Jesse Jackson is but can not tell you what he does or what he stands for?  

          Race is the wedge used to separate people from joining together based on class. How much conservative fear mongering do you hear about class war? Even through the working class is not fighting back? And why is the working class not fighting back.

          •  Simple. Too much false fear, propaganda, and (0+ / 0-)


            The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

            by Saint Jimmy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:21:00 PM PDT

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    •  Not entirely correct (6+ / 0-)

      The Religious Right most certainly does want to force women back to being meek helpmates of men, which is why we have the rise of abominations like "covenant marriage" and the pop culture fame of Quiverfull families like the Duggars.   They are a very powerful political force, and we ignore them at our peril.

    •  You're right to talk about class, BUT! the point (3+ / 0-)
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      is not that those at the top are racists: it is that those at the top are classists, & their class happens to be almost entirely white & male.

      This may matter more to some of them than others, but as you accurately point out in your second 'graph, they USE people who are of their race--but not their class--against each other & against those who are neither men nor white.  

      That makes those classist manipulators racist by proxy.  Racism at that level is about power & control.  What the diarist correctly identifies is the patriarchy as the source of the War On Women, & Others Too.  Far from saying, "White males are bad," this diary says, "The bad people are a white male club, & they do care about keeping it that way."

      A better concept than racism is tribalism.  Those classist elites at the top are indeed a tribe; a small one for which the primary qualification is wealth, but for which the historical qualifications have ALSO been White & Male.  The Ol' Rich Boys' Club only recently began to admit nonwhite nonmale members, & they still aren't really, really in the tribe, because a tribe has culture in addition to its demographic.  Women & minorities can't be in the tribe because the culture was built at their expense, as the persistent presence of sexist & racist humor in white male clubs at ALL CLASS LEVELS proves.

      Before elections have their consequences, Activism has consequences for elections.

      by Leftcandid on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 04:28:33 PM PDT

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    •  Actually they do care (1+ / 0-)
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      "...they don't give a damn if their allies and fellow feudal lords and ladies are white, black, brown, yellow, red, gay, or little green martians, as long as they have the gold to qualify and buy a castle."
      Yes, yes they do care. The reason the power structure is overwhelmingly white and male is because that group is exclusionary. They exclude people of color, gays, women, and so on. It's not an accident.

      A white man who has no trouble stabbing another white male in the back for money will still never, ever share money or power with a woman or other excluded person.

      Obamacare: That hopey-changey thing is working out great for me, thanks for asking.

      by LaraJones on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 10:04:40 PM PDT

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      •  Yuck. You're really young, aren't you? People (1+ / 0-)
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        of ALL COLORS STAB ONE ANOTHER IN THE back every goddamn day.  Geeez.  At times, I wonder what I'm doing at this site and my views are about as far left as you can get....

        The real power in America is held by a fast-emerging new Oligarchy of pimps and preachers who see no need for Democracy or fairness or even trees, except maybe the ones in their own yards, and they don't mind admitting it. ~ Hunter S. Thompson

        by Saint Jimmy on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 05:31:21 AM PDT

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    •  So, can you name non-white or male elites? (1+ / 0-)
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      Should be easy to count on one hand.

      Here's a start:  Richard D Parsons -- Former chairman of Time-Warner and had the temerity along with other banksters to snub a "request" for an in person meeting with the President in the Oval Office regarding TBTF and bank bail outs.  But, he is but a "poor" executive compared to those he's worked with.  He got bumped to the elite level by a recommendation from a Rockefeller that Parsons be appointed to the board of Time-Warner.

      Any others?

      --Mr. President, you have to earn my vote every day. Not take it for granted. --

      by chipoliwog on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:58:23 AM PDT

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  •  Been saying this... (16+ / 0-)

    I've been saying this since Obama was elected and the vitriol came spewing non-stop from the right.  

  •  This crew also went after Bill Clinton (14+ / 0-)

    Clinton's Presidency was declared "failed" and "illegitimate" before his inauguration(!?!). The difference here is it's even easier to exploit lower class tribal white fear with a young black JFK in the White House as opposed to using the image of the Democrats/Liberals giving the country away to the "welfare queens" (which has been the standard tactic since Reagan). And there is a sinking feeling everywhere that the middle class country we attained after WWII is gone - as opposed to the 90s when much seemed possible.

    Be mindful that the conservative new media machine will try to paint the Democratic Party as the party of "angry black men" this year. It's what they've got to try and hold the House and, though this is thankfully a tough task, sell Mitt. If Biden were running for reelection as President the race would already be over because there would be no tribal fear and hatred to exploit.

    Here's hoping they overplay this hand, that the ugly race card tactics get old even to their target audience, and that we've got down ticket candidates that can appeal to the fundamental decency of the voters of the United States, making the case that we're better than constant outrageous lying politicians attempting to push savage buttons. And that our side votes.

    If you didn't like the news today, go out and make some of your own.

    by jgnyc on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:12:08 AM PDT

  •  Agreed, it started with Reagan...its been non-stop (13+ / 0-)

    The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

    by a2nite on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:54:01 AM PDT

  •  Lots of hysterical, defensive whining (12+ / 0-)

    even in this venue, from the point of aging white males who aren't automatically assured the access in society they once had, and who need to take it out on somebody.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:06:56 AM PDT

  •  And we explain (1+ / 0-)
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    Colin Powell and Herman Cain how?

    •  same way we explain (14+ / 0-)

      Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann, or gay republicans, or anyone else who is too dense to understand that they participate in a party that at its core is against their best interest.

      They just think they're in the popular clique, but as soon as they leave the clique talks about them behind their back.

      "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

      by La Gitane on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 09:03:57 AM PDT

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      •  But (0+ / 0-)

        by your own reasoning, they got into the clique in the first place. And where is all this behind-the-back sniping? I can't say I've seen much of it. I also can't say I'm much for conspiracy theories in general, and I think this theory in particular needs work.

        •  Conspiracy theory?? (1+ / 0-)
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          Do you honestly think the GOP takes Palin, Bachmann, Cain or any of these other bozos seriously?  They got "in" the clique in the first place because they bring the crazy base along with them, and the GOP desperately needs the crazy in order to win.  Do they want Palin & Co. to actually win?  Hell no.

          You talk like I'm postulating some complex, Machiavellic machination - I'm not.

          It's simple.  And painfully obvious.  Relax.

          "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

          by La Gitane on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 12:55:57 PM PDT

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    •  Tokenism is a common thing (12+ / 0-)

      when groups don't want to appear to be racist or sexist.  How much power do either of those people have?  How much have they ever had?

      There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 09:29:33 AM PDT

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      •  Well (0+ / 0-)

        they seem to have convinced hundreds of thousands of people that they might be viable presidential candidates. Seems to be more than just tokenism.

        •  Don't be dense (2+ / 0-)
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          Sure, there can be exceptional people who rise above their station. Tenpoint is, you should not have to be that shining, extraordinary, exceptional person just to reach heights that others reach by fortune of birth.

          I once saw it analogied, quite well, as a video game. At the beginning of a gem, you can choose easy, medium, hard, expert level of difficulty.

          You can start on expert difficulty and still win the game. You can start on easy difficulty and still lose.

          Being a white male is like starting on easy mode with all the cheat codes. It actually takes work to screw it up.

          •  Here is the reference (3+ / 0-)
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            Straight White Male: The Lowest Difficulty Setting There Is
            by John Scalzi

            It's a marvelous concept, and what was amazing was how many straight white males went absolutely bonkers loudly insisting that this was NOT TRUE when it so obviously is true.

            In capitalist America, bank robs you!

            by madhaus on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 12:24:06 PM PDT

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            •  Liked Scalzi's Redshirts (0+ / 0-)

              and he may be right that "normal' or "default" is still SWM, but that doesn't get you to the diary's claim that the goal of conservatism is the conscious aggrandizement of white male power. In short, I agree more with St. Jimmy, that economics trumps race and, in point of fact, I think that the accusations of racism against Republicans, conservatives and Tea Party supporters are almost entirely misplaced. Heretical, I know.

              •  My diary has nothing, zero, zilch to do with racis (0+ / 0-)

                Where in my diary did I even mention racism once. It is completely about keeping the traditional, straight white male power structure in place. Pretty sure racism is not mentioned.

                They fight against anything that may increase the power of someone not them.

                •  My error, then (0+ / 0-)

                  From now on, if someone tells me that the staright white male power structure is racist or enshrines racism, I'll refer them to you for correction.

                  •  Don't get me wrong.... (3+ / 0-)
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                    Some of them may use racism as a tool to oppress opposition and rally support to their cause, but to them racism would just be a tool to cement their own place and tear down those trying to improve their own station.

                    The composition of the "other" is really irrelevant to the dominate power structure. The just don't want whatever "other" it is improving because they feel it as a threat. Whether that "other" is women, the poor, the middle class, homosexuals, a different race, immigrants, the wrong religion, etc. That is actually irrelevant to the power structure except when they can use it as a cudgel. They are very practical after all. Practical enough to exploit other people's demons, of course.

        •  Yes Herman Cain was a comer (2+ / 0-)
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          until people learned what his ideas were. And saw him in action. And then dropped him like a hot potato. But he was no stupider than Gingrich, santorem, or Romney. Yet the survived longer. And how many delegates did the black guy win in the Republican contests. Going all the way back to August 11. Zero thats how many.

    •  Colin Powell can be explained because (6+ / 0-)

      in 2000 he thought that he could appeal to the old style traditional Republicans, not having realized that Newt Gingrich had started letting the genie (dog whistle bigotry, hatred, sexism, teh stupid) out of the bottle during the 1990's. This is much in the same manner that the election of Dwight Eisenhower moderated the party somewhat in the 1950's. I think that Colin Powell wanted to be a moderating influence. As far as Herman Cain goes, I suggest that you consult a clinical psychologist.

    •  First of all you must sepearate (1+ / 0-)
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      Colin Powell from Herman Cain. Two different people. General Powell was the son of immigrants who worked hard and earned his way into West Point. And then had a stellar career as a top military officer. Herman Cain has been all about Herman Cain. Someone very good at self promotion. And a classic conservative parroting back conservative "thinking" without a lot of reflection or thought. Sort of like Clarence Thomas. Not a quality thinker. In fact can anyone name a quality black conservative thinker? All the ones I know about are hacks. Not even qualified to be in the same room as Eric Dyson. Or Cornell West. Or Neil deGrasse Tyson.

      •  Another opinion (0+ / 0-)

        Thomas Sowell, whatever you think of his politics, strikes me as a quality thinker, as does Stephen Carter. Cornell West is, IMO, intellectual Jello, no matter how politically correct.

        •  I will agree with you on Carter (0+ / 0-)

          but not Sowell, he has an immature University of Chicago understanding of economics and free marketeers do not have any credibility left intellectually anymore. They tend to be too glib about the suffering of people.

          Cornell West is a powerful voice for Democratic Socialism. A guy not trying to line his pockets. And a great jazz musician.

      •  Or name a quality conservative thinker (0+ / 0-)

        of any race, creed or color. They're all hacks nowadays because their current philosophy is indefensible and becomes even more painfully and transparently absurd as we go along. And no one will back down from it; they double down.

        rMoney: Just another jerk, lookin' for work.

        Where have you gone, 50-state strategy?
        Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

        by OleHippieChick on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:15:44 PM PDT

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      •  Malcolm Gladwell is the only one I can think (1+ / 0-)
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        of, though I'm not a big fan of his.

        There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

        by AoT on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 02:44:43 PM PDT

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    •  wanna be's. eom (0+ / 0-)

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 09:00:38 PM PDT

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  •  Karma takes a heavy toll (2+ / 0-)
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    The first State where women could vote was Wyoming, not exactly a bastion of progressive politics.

    "Political ends as sad remains will die." - YES 'And You and I' ; -8.88, -9.54

    by US Blues on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:22:27 AM PDT

  •  This is a good diary, but needs further analysis. (18+ / 0-)

    The Corporate Powers have no intention of sharing power with working class/poor white people, not even those of the male gender.

    The Corporate Powers are geniuses at persuading poor and working class white people to vote against their own economic interest. But I don't hold my fellow white poor and working class brethren blameless for this sad state affairs. They allow themselves to led around by that racists ring which the Corporate Powers have implanted in their collective nose.

    Nor do I hold Progressives blameless as they go around causally & snidely tossing around terms like Redneck (as if Redneck means Republican), white trash (as if being poor and white means Republican), mocking Country music, hunting, stockcar racing (fun, by the way), etc etc & puke in bucket.

    The New Deal did not spring full-born from off the top of the Ruling Class head. It was won on the picket line in the great strike waves of the early 30s. 1934, right there in Minneapolis, Teamsters were shot down in the street (WE NEVER FORGET).

    The left-center alliance won us the New Deal, a broad coalition. Many working class and poor whites joined that coalition. They were persuaded to join by good old fashioned Union Organizing and the Poor People's Campaign. These organizers shouted SOLIDARITY from the rooftops, their efforts were courageous beyond measure; nothing could stop them, and many died or simply "disappeared."

    We need more of that today. Stop bashing poor white people, and start organizing them. Stop this "freeloader" meme and get back to talking Union, Solidarity, Class Unity, & enlightened self-interest.

    When Brother Bragg asks:

    Who'll defend the workers who cannot organize
    When the bosses send their lackies out to cheat us?
    We should all answer: WE WILL!

    WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For May: Martyrs of the San Diego Free Speech Fight, Spring 1912.

    by JayRaye on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:24:11 AM PDT

    •  The first step is to stop "looking down on them"; (1+ / 0-)
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      the people that need to be organized and tapped into can "smell" condescension "a-mile-away"!  ReTHUGlicans of the Walker-variety have appealed to their baser instincts; Democrats need to figure out how to tap into their higher instincts and self-interests.  

      Robber Baron "ReTHUGisms": John D. Rockefeller -"The way to make money is to buy when blood is running in the streets"; Jay Gould -"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half."

      by ranton on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 10:21:04 AM PDT

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    •  I agree fully but it is not inappropiate to call (5+ / 0-)
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      privilege. My brother got his union painters card at the age of 18 after never serving an apprenticeship and jumped over the heads of more than 50 black apprentices. He got his son a laborers union card jumping him over the heads of a waiting list of mostly black men waiting for a chance. Many in the trades unions do not support the rights of teachers or government workers or retail workers to join a union. How many of you know that there is a union boycott of Walmart? That union members are asked by the union movement not to shop at Walmart?

      My brother used his connection to my father to get a union construction job. Without having any training. My father got his union card through my mother's uncle. My father had no training either. They were not qualified for the jobs but they got them. And qualified black guys did not get those jobs. And white people complain about affirmative action?

      How about poor white people stop bashing people of color and quit spreading untruths about people who are not white. And maybe union members should support the whole union movement.

      •  It's the equivalent of legacy jobs for blue-collar (1+ / 0-)
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        My grandpop drove a dozer pushing trash that built Staten Island, then got my old man into NYC Sanitation after WWII as a driver, no can lifting.

        rMoney: Just another jerk, lookin' for work.

        Where have you gone, 50-state strategy?
        Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

        by OleHippieChick on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:24:48 PM PDT

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      •  As a Socialist, I use the word "privilege" (2+ / 0-)
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        only to describe the Ruling Class and their access to mega-amounts of money and power.

        They get the cream, and we get to stand in line for the skimmed milk. Yes, white working class men get to be in the front of that skimmed milk line, that's true. But I don't call that "privilege," I call that institutionalized racism and sexism.

        Being at the head of the line when the dangerous and dirty jobs are handed out is not a exactly what I call "privilege."

        Profiting while your workers get sick and die. Now, that's privilege.

        See my comments in this diary for more on this analysis.

        WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For May: Martyrs of the San Diego Free Speech Fight, Spring 1912.

        by JayRaye on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:28:06 PM PDT

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        •  Then what do you call it when a white man (2+ / 0-)
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          jumps the line in front of 50 black men?

          There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

          by AoT on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 02:46:05 PM PDT

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          •  Institutionalized Racism & (in my case) Sexism (3+ / 0-)
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            We must stop institutionalized racism and sexism, or we will never have Class Unity.

            That's why I am a strong supporter of affirmative action.

            Those guys would have never let me or my African American Union Brothers into the IUOE without affirmative action forcing the issue.

            After 3 or 4 years on the job, they didn't mind me being there as much. They said,"That broad has balls!

            And most of them got used to working with an African American also. In fact, they helped him become an Operator (from a Laborer) and got his brother hired on also.

            None of us are "privileged" to work in construction no matter our sex or race. Yes, there was much about it that I liked, but it's dirty and dangerous work. But even if we die, the Contractor profits. That is what I call privilege.

            WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For May: Martyrs of the San Diego Free Speech Fight, Spring 1912.

            by JayRaye on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 05:50:09 PM PDT

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            •  For the working class to organize (3+ / 0-)
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              And I should really call it the working poor, because that's the real working class.  But, for the working class to organize and unite as a class the first thing that needs to happen is that us white folks need to pay attention when people of color tell us about how racism works.  And I think I know what you're getting at with what you're saying, but I have a problem with it because it gives white people an excuse to ignore racism instead of dealing with racism.  

              And we need to deal with racism for two reasons.  First and foremost because it's wrong and oppressive and we want to end oppression.  And secondly because it is what keeps us from uniting to end oppression.  

              You should check out what these folks have been doing in regards to confronting racist assumptions that poor white folks have.  Their work in AZ has been frankly inspiring.  I know they're from the circle A crowd, but the way that they made a connection between speed cameras and border control is incredible.

              There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

              by AoT on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 11:35:14 PM PDT

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            •  My brother makes over $100,000 a year (3+ / 0-)
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              and has a retirement account worth over a million dollars. He carries two cards operating engineer and painter and never served as an apprentice. These are highly sought after and he got them in a corrupt manner. Of course we had to pay a bribe to some officials but only connected white guys could do that.

              My father grew up in Northern Ireland during WWII. He had relatives in Belfast. Now Belfast at that time was a major industrial center with two major factories. Shorts Aircraft which built Spitfires and Harland and Wolff the shipbuilders. To get a job here you had to be a member of the Orange Order. If you were Catholic you could not get hired. There were guys who would clock in at both factories at the same time and then go home for the day, drawing a paycheck, actually two, and do no work and sit at home. That is called Protestant privledge.

          •  a death wish (0+ / 0-)

            Oregon:'s cold. But it's a damp cold.

            by Keith930 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 10:54:07 PM PDT

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  •  tip, rec, & repub to (3+ / 0-)

    Anti-Capitalist Chat

    with note.

    WE NEVER FORGET Our Labor Martyrs: a project to honor the men, women and children who lost their lives in Freedom's Cause. For May: Martyrs of the San Diego Free Speech Fight, Spring 1912.

    by JayRaye on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:25:49 AM PDT

  •  This is the only worldwide conspiracy (5+ / 0-)

    Aside from the great Conspiracy of Stupidity.

    People mistakenly throw the word Illuminati around, when what they mean are Wealthy White Supremacists.

    It's painful shame.

  •  Awesome analysis! (0+ / 0-)

    Thank you!

    Just to look at the econ end of it:

    They want to go back to before the days when bread was stuffed with plaster of paris; when you found a severed finger in your can of beans.

    In Russia and China they are experiencing the dawning of Capitalism, with its requisite shortcuts and govt-hands-off frontier attitude.

    We already lived through that and evolved generations ago.  Who the eff would want to take us back to that?

    (And that is just the purely economic side of your issue here).

    Aldus Shrugged : The Antidote to Ayn Rand. @floydbluealdus1

    by Floyd Blue on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:42:02 AM PDT

  •  I forfeited my White Male Power by retiring to (2+ / 0-)
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    3rd World SE Asia. Here, I am just another underfinanced failure, so the expectations for me are really, really low.

    I voted with my feet. Good Bye and Good Luck America!!

    by shann on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:42:04 AM PDT

  •  Very insightful (4+ / 0-)

    This sure explains a lot of things, like the war on women, vitriolic racism, etc.  When it comes down to it, Christianity has always been about white, male power.  So Christian theocracy as the tool of a white, male oligarchy is the perfect solution. The Bain exploiter with his five sons and his church built on fulfilling the power and sexual dreams of white males is the perfect symbol of this movement in our society.

  •  Proud white male race traitor here. (0+ / 0-)

    And one willing to take up arms.

    Crave the idea actually.

    Obama is at war with radical anti-American terrorists. The radical GOP is at war with American women. Take that and run with it DNC, you inept fucking pikers.

    by GOPGO2H3LL on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 09:12:29 AM PDT

  •  Agreed. And in protecting their own power... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...they are fundamentally and irreducibly anti-American.  They are, quite literally, the enemy within.  They are far more a threat to our way of life than any caricature of a Muslim terrorist.

    The road to Hell is paved with pragmatism.

    by TheOrchid on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 09:21:23 AM PDT

  •  The ruling elite love it... (0+ / 0-)

    ...when pundits promote conflict between white and black, men and women, straight and gay.

    The battle is between the rich and the rest of us, not between sexes and colors.

    Liberals too often are the tools of the rulers, when they divert our attention from living wages, free childcare, free healthcare, free education, and instead cry foul that one color or race has more toys than another.

  •  It's no surprise (4+ / 0-)

    The origins of the conception of 'conservative' come from nobles and royalty who wished to maintain the status quo. Always, they accomplish this by setting the paradigms of identity politics because if they didn't, they'd lose. They disturb identity consciousness so groups will pit against each other to maintain kyriarchy and it's a lot more expansive than just Super PACs and Voter ID laws. They have enough people incapable of seeing the common yet unique oppression each individual faces based on every single identity line and stirs up misappropriation of grievances to keep us working on battling on another. If a widespread set of people could come to understand intersectionality and how it displays common humanity and the vast lack of human rights and equality instead of the tunnelvision we have today, conservatives wouldn't be able sustain.

    •  The horror of the haves (0+ / 0-)

      is when the have-nots unite. They're desperate to not have that happen so will say and do anything to prevent it.

      rMoney: Just another jerk, lookin' for work.

      Where have you gone, 50-state strategy?
      Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

      by OleHippieChick on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:30:19 PM PDT

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  •  Interesting (2+ / 0-)
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    A lot of us are thinking these thoughts.  

    Just want to point out that American Exceptionalism is not something you can fight for, or build up, or have as a goal.  It is strictly an explanatory concept, a thesis or a fiction -- something you merely believe in.  

    Usually, it means a property the US has by default, or by grace.  In these usages, one either takes American Exceptionalism seriously or one does not.  The R party has been hammering Obama by saying that he does not believe in American Exceptionalism.  They do not say he is not working toward it or that he is failing to work on it hard enough, because they know it is not a goal.  They think of it as an article of faith or something.  

    From what I can tell, it is faith that the US need not live by the same rules as the rest of the world.  We are exceptions to the rules.  

    The robb'd that smiles steals something from the thief. -- Shakespeare

    by not2plato on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 09:50:54 AM PDT

  •  please fix spelling (2+ / 0-)
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    "...viscous, and dieing..." should be VICIOUS and DYING.

    Now I'll go on to read the rest of the diary. Very sorry to nitpick, but spelling is important.

    It's not about the hundred people whose minds you can't change. It's about the two people you empower. ~ Beth Ditto

    by dejavu on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 09:55:49 AM PDT

  •  You forgot the word (2+ / 0-)
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    Heterosexual in your title.

  •  It is a complexity of issues (3+ / 0-)

    There is a concerted effort to undermine the civil rights advancements of the last century, there is no doubt of this. It so happens that Western history has kindly treated European descendents on the whole. They colonized every continent of the world and, though they lost the war for political imperialism, did successfully ingrain economic power with time. In the United States, there were factions of people so committed to this idea of white dominance, they willingly seceded from the Union to outright reject the notion that blacks could not be emancipated, autonomous human beings. In 1925, the Ku Klux Klan marched in Washington, DC to galvanize a movement that was, in their view, embattled by government powers over them during the Reconstruction.

    As late as the 1960 election, blacks continued to vote for Republicans like Nixon, as Geoffrey Kabaservice pointed out in "Rule and Ruin", because of allegiance to the party of Lincoln, whereas southern Democrats were long associated with slavery. In the years of Lyndon Johnson and Barry Goldwater, liberalism and conservatism became more refined ideologies and more tangential to modern Democrats and Republicans, respectively.

    Several decades later, I see a new unwinding take place. The Texas GOP unambiguously decreed that the Voting Rights Act of 1965 be repealed in their 2012 platform, for fuck's sake. Should we suppose they did that because they must overcome oppressive environmental and labor regulations? No, of course not, although those, too, are a part of their agenda, which add to this complexity. There is no conspiracy, and the pullback into political atavism by the right has been reflected in their, at first, measured approach to dealing with issues they had been nursing for decades. More recently, in the days of 2002 through 2007, it was about "the illegals", although with more talk than action. Illegals must be deported, they cried, because they were taking jobs away from honest, law abiding Americans. Well, of course this was cloaked in the spirit of nationalism, and not racism. But this now looks more like a facade. Because here comes 2009, a black president is in power and an economic recession is raging, and some presciently warned of a surge in hate groups against that backdrop. The 2008 election alone would have clued in on this, as voters waited in line carrying monkey plush dolls to symbolize Obama. In 2010, Arizona governor Jan Brewer passed SB 1070, then Alabama wanted to play along, and ALEC wanted to take a bottom-up approach to undermine federal power by advancing a host of state and local level laws to disenfranchise minorities (voter ID laws, and raving about "voter fraud"), without explicitly saying so. Rick Perlstein hypothesized that the conservative movement didn't suddenly become so extremist just because Obama was election. It's that there has always been a faction of conservatives that, deep in the recesses of their minds, were wary of the prospect that their grip on power could be challenged. Rather than accept the federal power of a black presidency, they retreat to screeds about 10th Amendment rights. Again, these are factions, mostly filled with people sympathetic to or participating in the Tea Party movement. The tone is really that of tribalism.

    On the other hand, once you remove the tribalism on the grounds of ethnicity, gender, spirituality, and sexual orientation, there would be nothing for a homogenized race to fight over except the economic pyramid. Once out of scapegoats as obvious as illegal immigrants or "welfare queens", where does one begin to place blame?

    "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ~Edward Abbey ////\\\\ "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." ~W.E.B. DuBois

    by rovertheoctopus on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 11:17:19 AM PDT

  •  Mitt Romney's Hometown State of Utah Is Bad Too (0+ / 0-)

    Utah is where a student can wear a KKK hood and make a Nazi salute in a public high school pep rally with the support from the community that thinks such Nazi fascist racist behavior is not a big deal.

    And whenever there are news articles about Mitt Romney's Mormon conservatism, his spokeswoman Andrea Saul asks reporters if they would write the same thing if Romney were a Jewish.  A Mormon conservative with a background that supports Nazi fascist behaviors cannot offend the Jewish community like Andrea Saul did.

    I have heard crazy anti-American Tea Party conservatives name-calling President Obama a Nazi because, for example, President Obama wants all Americans to have affordable health care.  But Mitt Romney really does have a community background that supports Nazi fascist behaviors in a place like a public high school.

  •  The elites don't care about "white male" power (2+ / 0-)
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    They are interested in the power of the economic elite. Just as you can't talk about class without talking about race and gender, you can't do what this diary does, which is to talk about race and gender without class.  

  •  I would call this diary "tossing red meat" to (0+ / 0-)

    the crowds...but clearly this place prefers White meat.

    Enjoy your feast.

    Oregon:'s cold. But it's a damp cold.

    by Keith930 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:55:43 PM PDT

  •  I've been thinking this for a while (1+ / 0-)
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    The GOP has become "The White Supremacist Party." Everything they do is designed to ensure that white people remain the power brokers in this country. (I'd actually argue most would be fine with white women sharing power.)

    They're willing to accept a rich black man like Herman Cain, as long as Cain continues to support policies that maintain a white elite. They aren't racists in the sense that they hate all black people (which is a terrible definition of racism anyway) but they want nothing to do with a society that challenges the white power structure.

    Politics has always been about power and how the surpluses of society are distributed. The GOP base is convinced that black people only look after black people, so white people should look after white people. They don't consider any other associations besides race. This is particularly bad in the South, where voting is almost strictly along racial lines and always has been. But since the South has gone national in the past 50 years, it's everywhere now.

    It's impossible to understand the vehemence of the Tea Party opposition to programs that would benefit them personally without seeing it through the prism of race. The proposal comes from a black man, therefore they will believe any lie told them that all the benefits are going to minorities and white people will have to pay for it. Sure, they use code like "free-loaders" or "illegal immigrants" versus "hard-working tax payers," but the bottom line is they are arguing that white people are being forced to give money to dark-skinned people.

    The situation wouldn't be quite so bad if Obama weren't black, but I'd argue it wouldn't change much because the Democratic Party is the Black person's party in their eyes. They only people they know who vote Democratic are the black person at the office and the "guilty liberal."

    Unfortunately, it's a losing political argument to lay things out as clearly as you have. These people don't think of themselves as racists because society has told them that a racist is Bull Connor turning fire hoses on people, and they've never done that.

    Eventually these racial lines will break down. I'm sure of it. Look at the under 25 crowd, although you need to be careful about that. Yugoslavia taught us how quickly most of society can revert to ethnic hatred when open fighting starts. But we're not likely to change the Tea Partiers minds. All we can do is out-vote them and keep them out of power.

    Politics ain't beanbag--Mr. Dooley

    by LeftCoastTimm on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 02:05:51 PM PDT

  •  Well.. a couple problems with this premise (0+ / 0-)

    If it weren't for slavery, America would be far behind other industrialized nations economically.

    Not defending slavery - it's just that if you take this angle then you deny the fact that America was built on the backs of slave labor & would be a totally different country otherwise - a fact that many racists are loathe to admit because it gives blacks masisve credit for this country's becoming.

    "We rose to greatness AFTER the Labor and Civil Rights movements."

    The Civil Rights movement & the passage of the Civil Rights Acts was the undoing of the New Deal/Great Society way of life and the end of the Labor movement.

    Unions and support for the New Deal/Great Society vision  have been going downhill since the CRA's passage, due to racists switching parties in an attempt to maintain their racial power & exclusiveness post CRA

  •  I think class is an important component. (0+ / 0-)

    If there were no whites in America, would the 1% be different?

    Let' look at this:

    The power brokers of the conservative movement are fighting a viscous[sic], and dieing [sic] battle to hold onto the white, male power structure they feel is slipping away.
    and change to this:
    The power brokers of the [insert movement] movement are fighting a vicious, and dying battle to hold onto the [insert race and gender]power structure they feel is slipping away.
    The old boss is the new boss.

    I think class explains why those in power seek and retain power.

    Candidates don't care about the color of the hand that wrote them a 10 million dollar SuperPAC check. But they very much want to be buddies with those who can write such checks - regardless of color.

    The 1% really don't care much about race from what I've seen. They'll never complain about a black child sitting next to their white child in school, but a poor child....

    Disclaimer: Weapons of Mass Destruction and terrorists may vary according to region, definition, and purpose. Belief systems pandered separately.

    by BlackBandFedora on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 06:46:05 AM PDT

  •  Wonderful diary, Thanks! (0+ / 0-)

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