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Seven Republican governors have committed, so far, to refusing the expansion of Medicaid, with another handful still making up their minds. They're flirting with throwing tens of thousands of their constituents into a no-man's land where they won't qualify for existing Medicare, and make too little money to qualify for the subsidies to purchase insurance through state exchanges. To make their political point, they'll happily leave all these people uninsured.

These governors are in some of the states that have the highest rates of uninsured, already. The most recent data, from the Kaiser Family Foundation compiled in 2010, shows just what these states would have to gain.

Map of U.S. showing rates of uninsured by state
Florida's Rick Scott is the big loser on this front, with 21 percent of his constituents uninsured. He's already rejected the expansion, even though more than a fifth of his state's population is without coverage. "We already have a Medicaid program that covers the most vulnerable people in our state," he says. So they take care of the "most" vulnerable but everybody else is on their own. If you're poor in Florida, your only hope for help is to get more poor.

South Carolina's Nikki Haley is right behind Scott, with the uninsured rate at 19 percent. As all teabaggie female Republican governors must, she posted her statement on Facebook, not even giving a reason beyond the political: "South Carolina will NOT expand Medicaid, or participate in any health exchanges. We will not support Pres. Obama's tax increase or job killing agenda."

Not far behind them is Bobby Jindahl. Lousiana's uninsured are 17 percent of the population, but he says, ”I think it makes more sense to do everything we can to elect Mitt Romney to repeal Obamacare.”

By implement the Medicaid expansion, these southern states could cut the rate of uninsured in their states by at least half.

Depending on how aggressively the expansion were implemented, South Carolina would likely see a 56.4 - 76.2 percent reduction in uninsured adults. In Louisiana, the range is 50.7 - 74.8 percent.
But, clearly, covering the uninsured is no more an issue for these governors than it is for Senate Republicans. They're just taking their marching orders from their base: "Let 'em die."

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 12:37 PM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Why don't red states care? Racism. (13+ / 0-)

    Red states don't care about the uninsured because they think it's a problem of "poor people"--and that means primarily black people in their thinking (tho there are many poor whites, too).

    Southern red states do have significant minority populations, and the powers that be not only don't give a damn about them, they resent any government benefits those poor people get.

    Some people fight fire with fire. Professionals use water.

    by Happy Days on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 12:45:16 PM PDT

    •  i don't thinks it's just racism (7+ / 0-)

      but that certainly helps the republican leadership an awful lot.

      the republicans rely on low information citizens to keep the conservative message alive and when people in those states really begin to start hurting because of this, the GOP governors can just say that obamacare isn't working.

      at least, that's what i think they're up to.

      hope springs eternal and DAMN is she getting tired!

      by alguien on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:06:06 PM PDT

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      •  Our party seems to be falling into fighting the (13+ / 0-)

        War on Welfare again when   unpopular but important  Medicaid comes up, a war the Republicans have thus far won by race baiting etc.  Sad that our poorest countrypersons would benefit most under a fully implemented ARA.

        Medicare, OTOH, according to the National Nurses Association,  is very popular.

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        by divineorder on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:52:21 PM PDT

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      •  I listened to Governor Lepage this AM (2+ / 0-)
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        betson08, Patango

        While it was a bit early, Governor Lepage heralded the dawn like a cock crowing.  He made just about as much sense as the bird that normally does that job.  Rambling and generally incoherent describes most of it, but it was clear that he meant not to implement Medicaid's expansion because we had too many freeloaders already, and it was a tyrannical job killer - or something.  Maybe it's a lack of sensitivity, but I heard a tribal appeal, wrapped in victimhood, not racism.  I do not think he is above exploiting race, but for his base, the undeserving poor are women, not dark skinned people.

      •  You are correct.. (3+ / 0-)
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        betson08, Patango, BusyinCA

        ...I would speculate about 70% of the population of South Carolina is not even aware of the Supreme Court's recently ruling on Obamacare.

         But Nikki Haley's core constituency of right wing militants is aware, so when she talks shit, that is who she is pandering to.

        Meanwhile, while the uninformed 70% in South Carolina are left to flounder in Haley's petri dish of hate, the informed 30% in South Carolina are left to fight it out among themselves.

        As far as ACA benefits are concerned, this is the dynamics at play in the Deep South states.

        I realize it's a liberal reflex to blame racism, but it's a little more complicated than that.

        Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate. ~ Proverbs 22:22

        by wyvern on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:48:48 AM PDT

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    •  Their citizens have to most to gain, they don't (0+ / 0-)

      because all those people getting healthcare would reward the President and party who made it possible.

      -1.63/ -1.49 "Speaking truth to power" (with snark of course)!

      by dopper0189 on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 01:51:00 PM PDT

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  •  Does this mean (18+ / 0-)

    we'd be safe to conclude that the ALEC pledge is stronger than the Oath of Office that any of these Governors have taken?

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 12:46:39 PM PDT

    •  Well, money is (6+ / 0-)

      their god and religion, so yes.

      Santorum 2012: When Satan isn't enough to scare the crap out of you.

      by Philpm on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 12:51:33 PM PDT

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    •  The ALEC pledge, the Norquist pledge... (6+ / 0-)

      ...the deregulation pledge, the pledge to Wall Street should they ever run for higher office and a dozen or so other pledges no doubt pre-empt that Oath of Office pledge.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:24:05 AM PDT

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      •  taking pledges (4+ / 0-)
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        means never having to think for one's self.

        "Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day." ~ Harry Truman

        by susanthe on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:57:13 AM PDT

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        •  Taking pledges and voting R, yup. (0+ / 0-)

          No critical thinking skills involved, just sign here, vote this way, and you're a member of the gop tribe.

          Progressives/Dems don't ask for loyalty oaths/pledges because our ideas are valid and can stand on their merits. And we base our beliefs on facts and change our minds because we use logic, not some tribal ritual or daddy figure telling us what to do.

          But if we really want to win we need to fight fire with fire. We need to appeal to the emotional side of the brain. I hope the Dems use the ACA being upheld to highlight how it begins to address health care inequality. And push it hard. And use the R governors refusal to take Medicaid funds to underscore that they are not on the side of the people, they are on the side of the big check writers.

    •  First these governors' excuse (2+ / 0-)
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      wyvern, BusyinCA

      for not implementing responsibilities for their states under Obamacare was waiting for the SCOTUS decision.  Now they say they're waiting for the outcome of the presidential election.  What will be the next excuse when Obama wins?  The only thing left I can see is that they're in thrall to ALEC.  I'm sure that will go over well with their citizens.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:34:10 AM PDT

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      •  The Wisconsin results (1+ / 0-)
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        a gilas girl

        should serve as a constant reminder that their views in fact may go over perfectly well with their citizens.  At least in Wisconsin there was grassroots organizing and mobilization against the Walker agenda.   However, today's top-down Democratic Party which presents itself as the only alternative has shown no interest in any actual base-building organizing beyond the absolute minimum of one day every four years GOTV.  Which changes no basic social attitudes and public outlooks at all, ever.

        The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges. ~ Anatole France

        by ActivistGuy on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:54:58 AM PDT

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      •  Actually they are waiting... (2+ / 0-)
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        a gilas girl, BusyinCA

        ...to see if Republicans hold the House & take the Senate.

         If that happens, the legislative branch will repeal the Affordable Care Act.

        Republicans are making it very clear they are running on a platform of depraved indifference.

        When November rolls around, & voting begins, it will be interesting to see if the American people embrace admiration of Republican sadism.

        Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate. ~ Proverbs 22:22

        by wyvern on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:59:23 AM PDT

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  •  Republicans used to be merely chary. (11+ / 0-)

    Now they are sick, twisted people that really do prefer allowing people to actually die rather than loosening their talon-like grip on their anti-life morality.  When did we start thinking that people that thought this way could be considered "American"?

    The road to Hell is paved with pragmatism.

    by TheOrchid on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 12:47:53 PM PDT

    •  "Death Panels" (0+ / 0-)

      You are so right...we now have real "death panels"...The Governors of these states are one man death panels...refusing the Medicaid money will certainly sentence people who might have been helped to die.  To Republican Governors..."have you no shame."

  •  Not surprised (7+ / 0-)

    Can't have the great unwashed knowing that government can actually improve people's lives.  Kinda sours the bullshit that the likes of Scott and Jindal have been spreading.

    Santorum 2012: When Satan isn't enough to scare the crap out of you.

    by Philpm on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 12:49:22 PM PDT

  •  My guess is some of them cave if Obama is (5+ / 0-)

    re-elected.

    Maybe not Jindal or Haley, who would be 2016 presidential contenders, but certainly Scott, who, at this point, would need a miracle to win re-election.

    •  Scott won't cave... (2+ / 0-)
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      GayHillbilly, BusyinCA

      ...his entire reason for wanting to become governor of Florida is to satisfy a grudge he is holding against Obama over the ACA becoming law in the first place.

      Remember, Rick Scott was the driving force behind Conservatives for Patient's Rights, and spent tons of his own money running propaganda ads in an effort to prevent Obamacare from becoming the law of the land. When he lost that battle, he decided to spend tons more of his own money to become governor of the state in which he was currently living (which happened, to our misfortune, to be Florida). Sadly, he succeeded, and since then, his sole mission in life (other than selling off every piece of the state to his buddies in the private sector) has been to try to undo every positive thing the Obama administration has tried to do for our state.

      When Obama is re-elected (I can't even contemplate the horror of a Romney administration), that will only make Scott angrier and more determined to thumb his nose at the president.

      We desperately need to kick this guy out of office in 2014.

      I vote we run Rick Scott out of Florida on a high-speed rail.

      by ObamOcala on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:58:21 AM PDT

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  •  Short sighted, vindictive, and petty (9+ / 0-)

    For the party that claims they're all about fiscal responsibility, it is perplexing that they would be so short sighted to see that a healthier population costs LESS to their state's bottom line.  If not for any other reason, this should be one they all can line up behind and put the ACA into action.

    But.....NOOOO!  Can't give Obama ANY credit what so ever!

    They'd rather their constituents suffer and die while their states continue losing money.....

    Teh stoopid......it burns!

    If you don't know why GREED and GLUTTONY are two of the Seven Deadly Sins, just look at the Republican Party and their Corporate Masters to understand why.

    by Shaking the Tree on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:00:45 PM PDT

    •  Not short sighted. (2+ / 0-)
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      Matt Z, BusyinCA

      They're killing off people who might vote against them.

      It's much easier than banning them from the polling place.

      "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

      by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:17:06 AM PDT

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      •  Unfortunately, the very poor don't vote. (0+ / 0-)

        They are way too involved in just trying to survive to put much effort into knowing the issues.

        Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

        by HappyinNM on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:17:37 AM PDT

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        •  The very poor already have Medicaid (1+ / 0-)
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          BusyinCA

          The largely uninsured is the next tier, simply the poor, those holding on desperately to the bottom of the working class.  These are the people excluded by the refusal of certain states to expand Medicaid eligibility or accept subsidies for insurance exchanges.

          As to whether they will vote?  Give them a reason.  Exactly such constituencies is what built the New Deal Democratic coalition.  (a) they were given good reason to vote, and (b) real efforts were made to engage with them and bring them into the process.  And guess what, with those two ingredients it worked, and as a result, for two generations a certain semi-progressive order held hegemonic status in the US, which only foundered on the shoals of Vietnam and the oil crisis driven stagflation.

          The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges. ~ Anatole France

          by ActivistGuy on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 11:02:40 AM PDT

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  •  and then, of course (6+ / 0-)

    they'll hit the air waves crowing about how bad obamacare is-despite the fact that they're not taking advantage of it.

    hope springs eternal and DAMN is she getting tired!

    by alguien on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:04:15 PM PDT

    •  The whitehouse needs to go on the air (1+ / 0-)
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      DrCoyle65

      Use the bully pulpit STRONGLY on national TV and explicitly spell it out how rube governors are willing to let up to 20% of their citizens go completely without any sort of medical coverage on ideological grounds then remind the whole nation that Grover Norquist has never been elected to so much as county outhouse attendant.

  •  "Republican governors refusing Medicaid expansion (3+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, jacey, NY brit expat

    have the most to gain by it".....the public, not so much

    Präsidentenelf-maßschach"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Ensanguining the skies...Falls the remorseful day".政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:09:53 PM PDT

  •   TP govs-the poor, old, and disabled =expendable. (7+ / 0-)

    Since we don't contribute to the gdp anymore, we are just 'Soylent Green'. Just a byproduct of 'drowning government in a bathtub'.

  •  They don't care; they believe in 100% of nothing (8+ / 0-)

    for the 99%.

    Or simply, theyre evil.

    The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

    by a2nite on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 01:57:22 PM PDT

  •  They obviously don't get cost to taxpayers of UI (1+ / 0-)
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    HappyinNM

    people.  This interesting development could play to Democrats advantage in upcoming state elections.  Does anyone know the economic costs of uninsured on the taxpayers in individual states?  I know Kaiser has calculated the effect at the national level, just don't know if such data is also available by state.

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself - FDR. Obama Nation. -6.13 -6.15

    by ecostar on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:04:13 AM PDT

  •  hateful voters (2+ / 0-)
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    Brooke In Seattle, Matt Z

    as long as voters continue to vote for the gop because of their bigotry and racism even though their self interests lean toward the dems the right wing will continue to disrespect those at the bottom of the economic ladder and pass legislation that favors corporations and the wealthy.

    •  But, see, there's the rub. (1+ / 0-)
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      GOP voters don't see their self interests aligned with Democrats.  In their minds, their self interest lies in keeping as much of their money as they can instead of letting the state take it and give it to the shiftless deadbeats, which is the Republican position.

      It's the idea of community that's dead in these people, not their self interest.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:46:58 AM PDT

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      •  the real rub (0+ / 0-)

        i agree that the gop voters see their self interests align with the right but thats their social interests.  the average jane and joe that vote gop do so even though their financial self interests are being squandered as they go along for a dead end ride on the social bigotry train the gop has been using to divide the middle class for decades, as the upper class rape the treasury of mr and mrs america and their dreams of a better future which is turning into a pipe dream, but alas the people of color or of different persuasions are to blame, a true circular firing squad.

  •  These Governors are raising taxes (4+ / 0-)
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    judyms9, salmo, snazzzybird, wsexson

    -The Governor's call the penalty a tax increase.
    -That "tax increase" is only on those who don't have coverage.
    - They pushing more people into the category by rejecting coverage for many of their citizens.

    Therefore, but their own dumb logic, these Governors are going to be responsible for an even bigger tax increase on their own citizens than Obama's plan.  

    "Journalistic conventions make it hard for reporters to deal with a big, complicated lie." -- Michael Kinsley.

    by dcg2 on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:08:37 AM PDT

    •  No, the governors are not calling the penalty (0+ / 0-)

      a tax increase.  They're calling Obamacare a tax increase.  In their propaganda it's the entire law that's a tax increase.  Just listen to them.  None of them, and certainly not their party's presidential candidate, makes a distinction between the penalty and the law itself.  Democrats keep trying to explain it, while Republicans just keep repeating "Obamacare has been ruled a tax increase by the Supreme Court."

      It's dishonest, but dishonesty is the only thing the Republicans have to run on.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:53:19 AM PDT

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      •  Not what i'm saying (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm not saying the Republicans make that distinction. I'm saying that their argument is grounded in the notion that the mandate is funded through a tax on those who don't buy insurance and Republicans are going to increase that number, therefore -  regardless of what they say - by their own logic, they are raising taxes.

        "Journalistic conventions make it hard for reporters to deal with a big, complicated lie." -- Michael Kinsley.

        by dcg2 on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 12:41:51 PM PDT

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        •  Now I see what you mean, (0+ / 0-)

          and you are absolutely right.  They do have a way of creating their own reality after all, don't they?

          "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

          by SueDe on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 08:03:08 PM PDT

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  •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

    the Governors are taking orders from their voters,  more or less.

    And those Governors cheer every time their voters are called racists, because they can feed that line to their voters as "this is how much Democrats hate you; look at the lies they tell about you'.

    Note the particularly amusing number in the above figure: Massachusetts under Rmoneycare is not down at zeor epr cent.

    We can have change for the better.

    by phillies on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:11:14 AM PDT

  •  Am I right in thinking this? (4+ / 0-)

    Seems to me that if we have more and more people insured, it will lessen the growth of medical insurance costs to currently insured folks because the doctors and hospitals (especially because of ER visits from uninsured people) are having to charge more for care to make up for their loss of revenue from these people which goes right to the health insurance companies.

    I know, I know, it sounds confusing, but it really does seem like if everyone is insured, the docs and hospitals and clinics will get their money and we health care insurance holders won't have to realize ever-increasing premiums to make up for those that don't have insurance.

    Okay, I'll quit now.  Am I right or washed up?

    The truth is sometimes very inconvenient.

    by commonsensically on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:15:23 AM PDT

    •  That's the argument: There'd be less cost shifting (1+ / 0-)
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      Matt Z

      Some states will prove or disprove that.

      These states won't be among them.

      "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

      by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:18:32 AM PDT

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    •  No, you're wrong. (0+ / 0-)

      Uncompensated care accounts for less than one-half of one percent of national healthcare costs.

      Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

      by edg on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:11:54 AM PDT

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    •  My understanding is slightly different. (0+ / 0-)

      This diary concerns Medicaid which has nothing to do with insurance companies, as it's a different funding source (public v private). The health care providers (doctors, hospitals, clinics) will be the losers, as poor people probably won't be able to pay for emergency care (the only care they can get). The providers may or may not charge higher fees to make up the difference, which means the insurance companies won't be impacted. Also, insurance companies only pay what they're willing to pay for any service. In this county, poor people can apply for indigent funds to cover their care. That money comes from city and county taxes. I believe if these governors refuse to expand Medicaid, it will be the health care providers who will give them hell.

      Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

      by HappyinNM on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:32:28 AM PDT

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    •  That's the whole idea of insurance (0+ / 0-)

      the more people insured, the more the risk is spread around.

      I think their logic goes like this: if they deny enough people insurance, then costs will be shifted to the states that do insure everybody-rates won't be held down as much, therefore no one will see a significant change in their insurance rates-then they bitch about Obamacare "failing".

      The states that do not expand coverage should be made to pay for their own uninsured-not spread it to the states that participate in the program. Let THEM pay higher premiums and taxes, not the rest of the nation!

      I really don't appreciate your incivility and rudeness. Armando 7/23/11

      by liberte on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 11:30:38 AM PDT

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  •  They just want people to die. (4+ / 0-)

    Let's be honest.

    Jindal, Scott and Haley are no better than mass murderers.

    "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

    by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:15:38 AM PDT

  •  These governors are planning to have the poor (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Brooke In Seattle, Mysoreback

    move to blue states so the GOP can keep their power in these governors' states.  This is the new segregation.
    Die quickly, but please don't do it here.  

    Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Islands, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

    by judyms9 on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:16:02 AM PDT

  •  the governors have nothing to gain by refusing (0+ / 0-)

    and nobody stands to gain anything from a refusal.

    it's the states that stand to gain, and they stand to gain from ACA, not refusals.

    that is to say your headline is more than a tad off.

    Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

    by Cedwyn on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:21:52 AM PDT

    •  I read it that way the first time also. (1+ / 0-)
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      Cedwyn

      While badly phrased, what she's saying is that those governors are from states that have the most people uninsured, therefore the most people who will be helped.

      Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

      by HappyinNM on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:37:03 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  i know what was meant (0+ / 0-)

        but one shouldn't have to think about such things.

        ; P

        Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

        by Cedwyn on Sun Jul 08, 2012 at 08:34:16 AM PDT

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  •  If Romney wins (0+ / 0-)

    can we demand the resignations of these assholes if they suddenly take the money?

    •  They won't. (3+ / 0-)

      They have nothing to gain from helping poor people.

      I mean, they would if they had souls, but they don't.

      "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

      by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:25:53 AM PDT

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      •  They will. (0+ / 0-)

        Except for the ones who have an eye on a national race fueled by the tea party, they will eventually be forced by circumstances to expand Medicaid in their states.  That's not to say some state politicians won't be extremely slow learners.

        Remember it took Arizona 20 years to sign on to the original Medicaid bill.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 11:02:03 AM PDT

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  •  I have to drop this link here. (2+ / 0-)
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    marykk, BusyinCA

    This read is so horrible. I am beside myself.
    Brutal strain of aristocrats rule US

    rMoney: Just another jerk, lookin' for work.

    Where have you gone, 50-state strategy?
    Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

    by OleHippieChick on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:29:09 AM PDT

    •  That's a great atticle, needs more exposure. (1+ / 0-)
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      It seems we're headed this way.

      Which brings us to that other great historical American nobility -- the plantation aristocracy of the lowland South, which has been notable throughout its 400-year history for its utter lack of civic interest, its hostility to the very ideas of democracy and human rights, its love of hierarchy, its fear of technology and progress, its reliance on brutality and violence to maintain “order,” and its outright celebration of inequality as an order divinely ordained by God.

  •  Texas (1+ / 0-)
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    Among the states with the highest number of uninsured and ranked WORST in health care.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Thank you Governor Perry.

    •  We always do things bigger in Texas. (1+ / 0-)
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      No one ever accused us of doing things better.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 11:03:03 AM PDT

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  •  All Republicans Suck!! eom (0+ / 0-)

    Two hundred million Americans, and there ain't two good catchers among 'em. --Casey Stengel

    by LongTom on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:41:19 AM PDT

  •  Dispropotionate Share will bring govs to reality (1+ / 0-)
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    Hospitals get Federal money, called Disproportionate Share, through a Medicaid-like mechanism  In South Carolina, the amount that hospitals get from Disproportionate Share is just about as big as the amount that they get from regular Medicaid paying hospital bills.  The ACA will end Disproportionate Share.  It won't be necessary when everyone has insurance.  If, however, the state doesn't accept the Medicaid expansion, S.C. hospitals will take a financial hit of hundreds of millions of dollars.  Plenty of Republican legislators have close ties to their local hospitals.  The hospitals are not going to happily go broke for the benefit of the Governor's national aspirations.

  •  No, the citizens of those states. (0+ / 0-)

    Two different things altogether, especially seeing that the republican party and many Democrats are controlled by the plutocracy who benefit from the tax breaks showered on them.

    ",,, the Political whorehouse that is Fox News." Keith Olbermann

    by irate on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:54:27 AM PDT

  •  Union Density? (0+ / 0-)

    It would be interesting to this map with an overlay comparing that % uninsured to the % of union density in the states.

    "Salvation for a race, nation or class must come from within. Freedom is never granted; it is won. Justice is never given; it is exacted." A. Phillip Randolph

    by Savage on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:59:50 AM PDT

  •  FL, SC and LA could fix their own self-madeproblem (1+ / 0-)
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    RECALL their Governors.  Their people have the power to cast aside these rabid rulers are allowing them to die, for their children's teeth to fall out.

    But they won't.  Because these Guvs speak for them.  The Reddest of the Red.  

    If you went to one of these Red States and you put up two tents.  One was for Blue - with clean water, breathable air, sustainable wages, education for all, healthy food and progressive health care... and the other tent was for the Red with Gawd, Gunz and Bigotry with all the dirty water you could swallow, infected meat to swill down and no health care and crappy jobs...

    Guess where the line would be longest.

    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." ~Jimi Hendrix

    by Damnit Janet on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 09:59:57 AM PDT

  •  You forgot to mention ... (0+ / 0-)

    those in the no-man's land will also have to pay the IRS penalty for not having health insurance.

    Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

    by edg on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:14:28 AM PDT

  •  Governors are turning down billions (1+ / 0-)
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    marykk

    I don't have the figures and someone should get them, but the reality is that where the republicans are threatening to turn down Medicaid expansion, they would be receiving billions of federal money in a far disproportionate manner to what they have to expend. The hospital/medical industry in these states isn't going to let these frauds get away with not accepting the federal funds.

    The headlines in these articles need to change from "Govenor says no to Medicaid expansion" to "Govenor turns down billions of free federal aid for health care."

  •  the plan/hope is that those who are uninsured (1+ / 0-)
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    will move to states where they will be covered.

    which, of course, means an overall lower population that will affect the number of congress critters the state(s) gets to send to dc, & is really an exercise in shooting one's self in the foot (or cutting off one's nose to spite one's face), but since when did common sense factor in any republican equation? -- besides, they're planning on seceding anyway, so it's a moot point.

  •  We need to reframe the argument (1+ / 0-)
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    marykk

    By addressing only the high number of uninsured, we're not addressing the objections of those republican governors, who cite increased costs to their states for the Medicaid expansion. States with the most restrictions on Medicaid eligibility will incur greater costs than states such as MA and HI with lower numbers of uninsured.

    According to the CBO, between 2014 and 2022 the ACA’s Medicaid expansion will add 2.8 percent to what states spend on Medicaid. But that 2.8 percent is an aggregate, with only MA, ME, HI likely to realize a net savings and most states incurring expense. How much additional expense is in question.

    Suzy Khimm at Wonkblog posted, "How the Medicaid Expansion Also Saves States Money,"

    Moral arguments don't work with these particular republicans. Instead, the argument should be focused on cost effectiveness of Medicaid expansion and a healthier state population.

    The sh*t those people [republicans] say just makes me weep for humanity! - Woody Harrelson

    by SoCalSal on Sat Jul 07, 2012 at 10:37:12 AM PDT

  •  You mean not qualify for existing Medicaid, right? (0+ / 0-)

    (Also, Jindal, not "Jindahl.")

    Yeah, yeah, I'm being a pedant...but it's a front-page diary!

  •  First, those ACA billions (0+ / 0-)

    could much better spent on military hardware, domestic police state programs, border fences, and/or further tax cuts for the wealthy (or the maintenance of same).

    Second, on balance, even ACA's regressive, punitive stance against the poor, ACA's rightwing framing of structural healthcare issues, ACA's re-assertion of failed (and stinking) Reagan Revolution anti-governance, anti-social dogma, even ACA's further debasement of US Government into pimp/enforcer for a failed (and stinking) greedhead sector, just wasn't enough to keep the right from playing at cheap, partisan sniping.

    Big meanies!

    Partisanship is not the heart of politics.  Partisanship is the abdication of politics.

    •  Obama gives and gives and gives. (0+ / 0-)

      His librul wonk supporters apologize, rationalize and finally glorify for his 'centrism'.

      The true heirs of Ronald Reagan (sorry, it ain't you Obama) laugh.  

      They laugh at their stooge.  They laugh because their wins either way.

      The populace is left nonplussed/confused at the sound and fury of nothing much but the same.  Certainly not compelling politics.  

      Certainly not Hope or  Change beyond what that the Healthcare Denial Industry can believe in.

      Serves Obama and libruls and McJoan right to shuffle.

      The people?  Sold down the river.

      Then we call it politics.

      Please don't feed the security state.

  •  Consider how truly crass this move is (0+ / 0-)

    Most wingers, when confronted with the kinda-hard-to-eny reality that they or a close friend or family member is taking full advantage of some godless govt program like medicare or social security or VA, will justify it as "I'm entitled, I was forced to pay for it, so I can happily suck on this teat while denouncing the godless communism of it all."

    But now look at these governors.  Their states' citizens pay into the federal tax system that pays for the medicaid expansion.  But, purely in order to grandstand, these governors are too principled to take the money.

    After all, it's not their family or friends who are going to suffer.  Just poor people who probably vote Dem any way.

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