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Religion could never have such a stranglehold on people's minds if we didn’t fear death as much as we do. Just vision it, if death was just a part of life like eating, sleeping, growing and learning, the so called CHURCH could not control minds and would go OUT OF BUSINESS. It's a pity that we teach children from day one to fear dying, telling their innocent minds to believe that they will be judged upon the arrival of this day called death, and will either be ‘SENT’ (by some non-existent Supernatural Being) to a PIE IN THE SKY, HEAVEN (if they are ‘GOOD’ which is a word that can be subjectively interpreted) or sent to the dungeons (if they are ‘BAD’ another subjective word) where they will burn and be tortured forever and a day. I wish we could all learn to just live in reality (it’s not near as scary as the place that religion tells us to live in) and not in the nonsensical world that Religion creates for us, using fear. thinkingblue

OH, ‘WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD THIS WOULD BE’.

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  •  Most of the very religious... (8+ / 0-)

    just don't question their religion, why they believe and why they think some old man living in the clouds is watching and judging their every move.

    What kills me is that Christians in this country demand freedom to express their foolish religion with little regard to how it infringes on other non-Christian's rights.  Srsly, if Jesus were (a real person and) still alive, he wouldn't even recognize the hate-filled, bigotted, hypocrites that call themselves Christians now a days.

    If you're not feeding the poor, offering free care to the sick, giving all your worldly possessions away and donating any money to charities  - you are not a Christian in the original sense of the word.  Practice what you preach, hypocrites.

    Facts are liberally bias

    by SuzieQ4624 on Mon Jul 16, 2012 at 08:50:31 AM PDT

    •  Nicely Written (1+ / 0-)
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      Suzie - nice post.  US is not a theocracy and people have the freedom to practice a religion of their choosing or none at all.

      And what better sums up this thought than the original motto of the US - e pluribus unum - out of many, one.

      If you analyze some of the parables in the Bible the story of the Good Samaritan speaks volumes about the true meaning of Christianity, which was perverted at Nicea.

      Samaritans and Jews were not on the friendliest of terms.  The Samaritan sees the beat up Jew on the road, puts him in a inn and tells the innkeeper if it it costs more he'll square him on the next visit  = the Samaritan wanted no recognition or anything else in exchange.

      I was talking with some evangelicals after Banda Aceh quake who explained to me it was God's doing as the people were Muslim.  This made my blood boil and of course when they do help they come with boatloads of Bibles = not helping for free unlike the example of the Good Samaritan.

      Of course this has nothing to do with God rather when subduction faults rip one gets bad tsunamis something that will wreak havoc from Northern Cal to Vancouver Island at some point.

      •  It seems like today's religions... (2+ / 0-)
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        (other than Buddism) are more cult-like than I'm comfortable with.  Their main objectives seem to be 1) prove all other religions are false, 2) covert new members, by any means nesseccary and 3) every man, woman and child for themselves.

        I'm an athetist, and am one of the most giving and generous people I know.  I donate time and money to causes that are dear to me.  I don't do it with alterior motives, expecting anything in return, or want to score brownie points with anyone or any group.  I do it because it's the right thing to do and I hope if I ever needed help, that someone would be there to give it to me, expecting nothing in return.  Life should be like the Give a Penny, Take a Penny jar, giving what you can and taking when your in need.  

        Religion has perverted a lot of the goodness that could exist in this world.

        Facts are liberally bias

        by SuzieQ4624 on Mon Jul 16, 2012 at 11:43:17 AM PDT

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        •  Agreed (1+ / 0-)
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          Religion always gets warped by those in power to control people.

          Khalil Gibran made some accurate comments on giving in his book the Prophet.

          Basically indicates one should give without thought to the goodness of the act rather give the way a fruit tree does as to not do so is to perish.

          Also cites those with big money give little of the much that they have and tend to do so solely for recognition serving to cheapen the act.

          Of course he said it much more eloquently than I have.

          So it really doesn't matter, in my estimation, what one believes - always gets back to what one does.

          So many have died in the name of religion though and you are spot on regarding this.  I think it's less an issue of religion and more that anything that has a ton of adherents can be perverted.

    •  Um WTF? (1+ / 0-)
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      You are making a lot of assumptions about a lot of people - many of whom are not Christian - with your statements on what we do or don't do as very religious people.

      There are plenty of Christians right here on DKOS who have also made it very clear they do not have a sky daddy motivation.  

      throwing in most - bullshit.  Sounds like you're the one who doesn't know what being a religious person is about.

      And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

      by Mortifyd on Mon Jul 16, 2012 at 02:30:13 PM PDT

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      •  Which is fine...please read what I actually wrote. (0+ / 0-)

        I said MOST of the VERY religious.  I never said ALL religious people.  And I never said anything about the "casual" religious observer.

        I'm sorry that you took it personally.  I was writing about my personal experience with most of the ultra-religious people I've encountered.

        And I don't personally know what being religious is about since I'm an atheist, have been since I was a child (by choice).  Even then I could seperate fact from fantasy. I don't personally understand what drives a perfectly sane people to do crazy things in the name of "god".

        Again, wasn't trying to offend anyone and I was careful not to make blanket, all-inclusive statements as I know there are sane religious people out there, but in my experience, I've encountered exponentially more religious nuts than I have sane, rational, logical religious people.  Again, this is just my experience on the topic.  

        Facts are liberally bias

        by SuzieQ4624 on Tue Jul 17, 2012 at 06:01:41 AM PDT

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        •  I'm "very religious" being Orthodox (0+ / 0-)

          and I'm not Christian.  

          Christians are not the only very religious people in this country, much less anyplace else - and I am sick and tired of Americans assuming that it is the only religious game in town - and the weirdness of it applies to the rest of us.  It doesn't.

          So what you "know" about being religious is based on one tiny sliver of one faith?  From your childhood understanding of what religion is?

          You don't know about belief or what drives or doesn't drive religious people.  I don't do shit because of any sky daddy or fear of punishment.  Most of us don't.  We have a lot of different reasons and understandings of why we do or don't do certain things -

          but mostly it has to do with trying to be better than we were yesterday as people.  So if that's so offensive to you - well, you're going to spend a lot of time offended - and offending people with your assumptions.

          Have fun with that.

          And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

          by Mortifyd on Tue Jul 17, 2012 at 08:20:49 AM PDT

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  •  Many of those who came to America seeking (3+ / 0-)
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    religious freedom denied it to others when they got here. Just look at the Pilgrims. Many of the "Dissenters" who fled the Anglican church in Britain set up their communities to require religious conformity. And many left Britain because they could not tolerate others religious views that were being tolerated in England. Jews, Catholics, Quakers, Levelers were all denied religious freedom in most parts of the colonies.

    •  Hey, if you've got the fersure "right" religion... (2+ / 0-)
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      why take any guff from all those other poor deluded Jewish, Catholic, Quaker, etc. fools?

      You were perhaps too polite to mention that the Pilgrims enforced their purely "right" little colony with banishment and execution. "Heresy" could get you extremely dead.

      All of which our founding fathers were quite familiar with and tried to guard against ever happening again.

      Those Pharisees in the top photo are deeply un-American folks.

  •  I never know quite what to say (0+ / 0-)

    . . . when I encounter a diary like this. I think I will content myself with posting the scientific definition of religion and leave it at that. Let him who has ears . . .

    “Religion . . . shall mean for us, the feelings, acts, and experiences of individual men in their solitude, so far as they apprehend themselves to stand in relation to whatever they may consider the divine.”

    - Wm. James, The Varieties of Religious Experience.

    I used to be Snow White. And then I drifted. - Mae West

    by CherryTheTart on Tue Jul 17, 2012 at 04:34:07 AM PDT

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