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I have been very concerned about the jihad the Republicans have been waging on the voting population.  Here in Pennsylvania, we have a new voter ID law and the many do not know what it is or how they will be affected by the change.  Many aren't even aware there is a change. I want to do voter registration in my area so I need to know exactly what the requirements are for voting in Pa.  I want to make sure the disinfranchised can and will vote.  The groups most affected by the changes are groups that have the most difficulty voting in any circumstance.  The young away at school, the elderly, the poor, the handicapped.  To get the information I visited my county voting office and was helped by two fantastic women.

    I began by asking for voter registration forms stating my intention of helping those who do not have valid ID.  Pa's new law states that everyone must have a driver's license or a state issued ID.  The ID's are available at the PennDOT driver locations.  Sounds reasonable until you factor in that many live far away from the license locations and that many people do not have their birth certificate.  Two forms of ID are neccesary to get the license or the ID.  Barricades number 1 and 2.
     The women at the courthouse told me that if one wants to make sure that they are registered to vote they may send in the registration form to assure they are on the voter rolls.  Then all they need is the ID.  
     I am planning on doing voter registration but I think the more important service is to get people out to the driver's license center to get ID.  Here is a list of locations in Pa.

     Driver's License and Photo ID Centers
     Photo id requirements
ID's cost $13.50 and must be paid by check or money order.  No cash.  You must have two forms of ID.  Here is the pdf listing all requirments for identification and residency.
Here is the parent site, DMV, proof of identity and residency

     The easiest thing to do is to vote by mail.  The women at the courthouse showed me the application to obtain an absentee voting form.  To complete it you need to write in your driver's license ID number or your photo ID number or the last 4 digits of your social security number.  This makes life easiest for the elderly and the handicapped.  This is the information we need to get out to the public. Vote by mail.  
site for information on absentee voting

There is a link for uniformed and oversees civilian voters.  There is a separate link for everyone else.  I want to put a copy of the pdf file but I can't figure out how to do that.

To help a person vote by absentee ballot download the application by following the link from the Pa voter service site.  Help the person fill it out and send it in by October 10, 2012. They will receive a ballot in the mail. They must fill it out and send it in promptly.  It must be received by the state by November 2, 2012.  I will be helping anyone I give the absentee voter application to in getting their ballot in on time.  That will be a crucial point in the process because people forget and procrastinate.  

Here are the sites I used to get this information.
Voter information
This site gives voting locations, relevant dates for all issues in voting and other info.

Absentee voter information and applications

Driver's License Centers and information

Anyone interested in helping people vote can go out on their own and register and help people obtain proper ID or absentee voter applications.  You can also go to the local Obama office and join up with others interested in doing the same.  This is vital to President Obama's reelection.  The disenfranchising of parts of the voting population is a plan put in place by the Republicans to win the election.  I mean to foil them in my tiny part of the state.  I hope many of you will do the same in yours.

Update: from JamieG in Md

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Pennsylvania's State Department is creating a special photo ID cards for voters who are unable to obtain birth certificates or other documents for a non-driver ID issued by the Department of Transportation.

Secretary of State Carole Aichele said Friday the new card will be available through PennDOT starting the last week in August. The card is free and valid for 10 years.

Voters who lack a state driver's license or other ID acceptable under Pennsylvania's tough new voter ID law

still must apply initially for a free ID from PennDOT
 .

Those who are unable to get one of the required documents — usually a birth certificate — should qualify for one of the new State Department cards.

Aichele says the new cards will be a "safety net" for voters.

http://www.wytv.com/....

This a welcome aid in voting but people still need to get to the centers.  

Update 2: Brennan Center for Justice has this for students voting in Pa:

Students voting in Pa
This gives the rules, the acceptable identification and the process a student must use to vote in Pa.

Originally posted to tobendaro on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 07:00 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (11+ / 0-)

    And she's good at appearing sane, I just want you to know. Winwood/Capaldi

    by tobendaro on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 07:00:04 AM PDT

  •  Hopefully, we can get (4+ / 0-)
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    Smoh, JamieG from Md, kerflooey, tb mare

    a discussion going on various ways to help people register and vote.  We are planning on going to churches and speaking about the requirements and issues confronting the ability to vote.  We will be offering rides to DMV, help in filling out applications and information on voting by absentee ballots.  

    And she's good at appearing sane, I just want you to know. Winwood/Capaldi

    by tobendaro on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 07:13:02 AM PDT

  •  PA was wildly inconsistent (4+ / 0-)
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    First I registered at college. Then I moved to a different county. Then, I moved within a county. At my previous locales, I never, ever had to show ID. Not even the first time I ever voted (2000 Presidential election). At my new locale and prior to the new law passing, my name was flagged every time I went in.

    I have not missed an election since May 2002.

    I'd love to know why I was flagged.

    VoterIDs are supposed to be free, though, I thought.

    pseudoscience can kill

    by terrypinder on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 07:15:17 AM PDT

    •  Voter id's should be (2+ / 0-)
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      given out by the state when you register imo, but then what do I know of poll taxes and such.  The ladies in the office were very grave when talking about the new id law.  I told them I wasn't stupid and I knew what it was all about which was why I wanted to help people be able to vote.  The both nodded sagely.  The out the state has is through the absentee voting.  It costs only a stamp.  But it is a bit involved for a person who isn't on a computer or has no easy way to get to application physically.  

      And she's good at appearing sane, I just want you to know. Winwood/Capaldi

      by tobendaro on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 07:26:46 AM PDT

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  •  We should have (4+ / 0-)
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    A permanent posting highly visible on how to vote and register in each state and how to help voter registration.

  •  Holder was right (2+ / 0-)
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    This $13.50 is a poll tax.  

  •  I teach at a university (2+ / 0-)
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    where students mostly from other parts of Pennsylvania, as well as a few from out of state, live in dorms.  In the past, these students (both from in state and out of state) could register to vote in my district.  I already know that their student IDs will not suffice because those IDs do not have expiration dates.  However, the new voter ID law raise several other questions to which I need answers:

    1.  Must the ID be a Pennsylvania ID?  Does this means that out-of-state driver's licenses are not valid IDs for voting in PA?  Would out-of-state students be able to obtain valid PA IDs for the purpose of voting?  Or should they just vote absentee in their home states?  (Frankly, any student from NY I would prefer to vote here rather than there.  Students from Ohio should probably vote in their home state.)

    2.  For PA students away from home, can they register to vote in the university's district even though the address on their driver's license will not correspond to that district?  Or would it be easier just to have them all vote absentee?

    -5.13,-5.64; If you gave [Jerry Falwell] an enema, you could bury him in a matchbox. -- Christopher Hitchens

    by gizmo59 on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 09:11:02 AM PDT

    •  On the phone now with (2+ / 0-)
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      voter registration.  Out of state students must register in the district that they wish to vote in.  They must vote absentee or reregister here.  They must obtain a Pa state id.  I am going up now to DMV and asking if they may have 2 state ids at one time.  The best thing is to have the University id with an expiration date and then avoid all of this stuff.  I thought I read a bit ago that the state schools had the expiration dates on them now.  
           The in-state students must reregister in the district they are going to vote in.      
           I will get back to you on the 2 state id situation.

      And she's good at appearing sane, I just want you to know. Winwood/Capaldi

      by tobendaro on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 12:00:09 PM PDT

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    •  Can you talk to the university... (2+ / 0-)
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      Some universities are changing their IDs to have expiration dates to make it easier for students to vote. Can you see if you can help convince your school to do this?

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      by JamieG from Md on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 12:14:09 PM PDT

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    •  I didn't get to DMV in time. (2+ / 0-)
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      They close at 4 and I just missed but I will get the info.

      And she's good at appearing sane, I just want you to know. Winwood/Capaldi

      by tobendaro on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 03:33:40 PM PDT

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  •  Thanks for doing this and (2+ / 0-)
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    Can you update the diary with this new information:

    HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Pennsylvania's State Department is creating a special photo ID cards for voters who are unable to obtain birth certificates or other documents for a non-driver ID issued by the Department of Transportation.

    Secretary of State Carole Aichele said Friday the new card will be available through PennDOT starting the last week in August. The card is free and valid for 10 years.

    Voters who lack a state driver's license or other ID acceptable under Pennsylvania's tough new voter ID law

    still must apply initially for a free ID from PennDOT
    .

    Those who are unable to get one of the required documents — usually a birth certificate — should qualify for one of the new State Department cards.

    Aichele says the new cards will be a "safety net" for voters.

    http://www.wytv.com/...

    I resent that anyone needs to pay anything for the right to vote.

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    by JamieG from Md on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 12:08:24 PM PDT

  •  The two states I'm most worried about the GOP (2+ / 0-)
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    stealing are PA and Florida.

    The Dems need to be filing one lawsuit after another, while at the same time getting people set up on how to vote in those states.

    Chicago--Proud Home of the 1908 World Series Champion Chicago Cubs

    by Jeff Y on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 09:01:47 PM PDT

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