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President Obama was out on the campaign trail Monday defending himself against Romney's misinterpretation of what President Obama said about businesses in America:

Obama raised the flap Monday while warning his supporters that Republicans would spend unprecedented sums distorting his vision this fall.

“Earlier today Gov. Romney was at it again, knowingly twisting my words around to suggest that I don’t value small businesses,” he said, referring to his opponent's comments at a campaign event in Southern California that morning. “In politics we all tolerate a certain amount of spin. I understand these are the games that get played in political campaigns. But when folks omit entire sentences of what I said -- they start splicing and dicing -- you may have gone a little over the edge.”

Obama said he believed “with all my heart that it is the drive and the ingenuity of Americans who start businesses that lead to their success.”

“I always have, and I always will,” he emphasized.

Obama says Romney twisted his comments about American business

Meanwhile, the Obama Truth Team is out with its rebuttals of the Romney nefarious twisting of President Obama's words. A new ad has been posted (transcript and links to sources of quotes below).


Narrator: Seen this ad?

On Screen: Shows portion of Romney ad quoting two sentences of what President Obama said ("If you've got a business, you didn't build that.")

Narrator: Wait a minute. Romney deliberately altered the meaning of the president's words.

On Screen: "Mitt Romney's misleading attack ad" The Washington Post - July 19, 2012

Narrator: Actually, he was talking about building infrastructure and education.

On Screen: "...infrastructure and education..." The Washington Post - July 20, 2012

Narrator: Not that individuals don't build their businesses.

On Screen: "...not that individuals don't build their businesses..." The Washington Post - July 20, 2012

Narrator: Romney's been caught doing this before

On Screen: "Misleading Romney Ad Draws Criticism For Distorting Obama's Words" - Slate News Channel November 22, 2011

Narrator: Another attack ad was called a blatant fast one for manipulating video of the president.

On Screen: "Mitt Romney pulls a blatant fast one with the first TV ad of his presidential campaign..." Ad Age November 22, 2011

Narrator: See the whole tape and decide for yourself.

On Screen:

"Mitt Romney's misleading attack ad" The Washington Post - July 19, 2012 came from this post by Ezra Klein:
I was on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” today, and one of the segments led with a Mitt Romney campaign ad quoting President Obama’s “you didn’t build that” remarks. I remember thinking, as I heard the clip, that Obama’s remarks sounded way worse than I’d recalled. Turns out there’s a reason for that. As The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent reports, Romney’s team edited the president’s remarks to make an entirely different, and much more offensive, point than the one Obama actually made.

Mitt Romney’s misleading attack ad

When you click the link to Greg Sargent's report you learn more:
So here’s where this is going. The Romney campaign is out with a new Web video hitting Obama over the “don’t build that” quote. It features a business owner who is angry at Obama for supposedly insulting his hard work. “My hands didn’t build this company?” the man asks. “Through hard work and a little bit of luck, we built this business. Why are you demonizing us for it?”

But the video deceptively edits Obama’s remarks to seamlessly link up two different parts of the speech, removing a chunk in order to make Obama’s remarks seem far worse than they are. Here is how Obama’s speech — which you hear in the background while pictures of the man driving flash on the screen — is represented in the video.

The Morning Plum: Romney video deceptively edits Obama speech to make it sound anti-business

Note: I linked to the ad directly at YouTube instead of the Romney site like Greg Sargent did, because some of the comments at YouTube were interesting like this one (if you have time add your own comments):
Banned for having a different opinion than Romney or criticizing him for his flip-flops. Just go to the facebook page and read posts lol. Many people have been banned for no apparent reason other than questioning his political integrity (or lack thereof)

Just shows Romney isn't pro free speech I guess.

"...infrastructure and education..." and "...not that individuals don't build their businesses..." The Washington Post - July 20, 2012 came from this article by  Rachel Weiner:
In the ad, the video jumps from the president saying “If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own” to “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that.” In his speech, Obama spoke in between about the infrastructure and education that help, making it more clear that he was saying individuals didn’t build that system, not that individuals don’t build their own businesses.

Jack Gilchrist, a New Hampshire metal plant owner, is featured in both clips. “Through hard work and a little bit of luck, we built this business,” he says “Why are you demonizing us for it? It’s time we had somebody who believes in us.”

In an interview with Fox News Thursday, Gilchrist was more nuanced, saying “There’s truth to what he says” and praising his 11th grade English teacher and the tax-funded transportation system. “But I think it’s a far stretch to infer that the government is the reason I’m here today or my company’s here.”

Romney’s recent spots have focused on Obama’s negative ads; it’s a notable shift for the candidate to punch back instead.

Romney goes on air with ‘You didn’t build that’ attack

When you click on the link in Rachel's story, you are taken to a Media Matters story which shows a clip from Fox News of Gilchrist, the guy in the Romney ad, agreeing with President Obama. (Sorry, I can't figure out how to embed a Media Matters video.)

"Misleading Romney Ad Draws Criticism For Distorting Obama's Words" - Slate News Channel November 22, 2011, is referring to this report:

Mitt Romney is drawing fire over the first commercial of his 2012 presidential campaign, in which he quotes President Obama out of context. The ad uses a sound bite from Obama's 2008 campaign: "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose."

The only problem with this apparently damning clip: Obama was quoting his Republican opponent John McCain at the time. In response, Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom claims the misleading quote was used intentionally to "show that President Obama is doing exactly what he criticized McCain of doing four years ago."

The Romney ad premiered in New Hampshire, the bellwether swing state that is home of the first primary of the campaign.

"Mitt Romney pulls a blatant fast one with the first TV ad of his presidential campaign..." Ad Age November 22, 2011 refers to this report by Dan Hirschhorn:
Mitt Romney pulls a blatant fast one with the first TV ad of his presidential campaign -- and the fib is probably working from a branding standpoint. It's no wonder regular people -- including general-market ad professionals -- have a low opinion of political ads.

Romney's 60-second spot, running on WMUR in New Hampshire, includes a 2008 clip of then-candidate candidate Barack Obama saying, "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose." The message Romney wants New Hampshire-ites to get: Obama's trying to distract us from what matters.

Only problem? Obama was quoting John McCain. The clip was taken from the closing days of the 2008 campaign, when McCain was flailing and his advisers wanted to change the subject from the economic panic that was dragging their candidate down. Here's what Obama actually said: "Senator McCain's campaign actually said, and I quote, 'If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose.'"

So Romney's ad is a pretty clear distortion. Ryan Lizza at The New Yorker, for one, lamented that it's not being covered that way in most mainstream news coverage.

But here's the bottom line: Romney's already won this particular messaging war, and the fib helped him do it. He's trying to brand himself as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, someone who can ignore his GOP rivals (like the surging-in-the-polls Newt Gingrich) and just focus on Obama. The predictable sniping today between his camp and Obama's has elevated him and accomplished just what the deception was supposed to.

Mitt Romney Ad Twists Obama's Words -- and It Works

What was Ryan Lizza at The New Yorker lamenting about? Well, the title of his article is: Why Didn’t Reporters Call Romney a Liar?

Finally, when you go the link at the end of The "Tampered" ad,, this is what you'll see:

Mitt Romney’s Misleading Attack Ads

Once again, Mitt Romney is deliberately editing President Obama's words to launch another false attack on the President's support for small business. Independent fact checkers at the Washington Post and called out Romney for his calculated distortion. Not only does Mitt Romney get the President’s remarks wrong, he actually thinks that what the President said is right. Take a look at what President Obama actually said and decide for yourself.

That last link takes you to, you guessed it, another ad, which I already wrote a diary about last Thursday, with the transcript: New Obama Ad Destroys Romney on His Hypocrisy

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  •  Tip Jar (132+ / 0-)
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    For me, Mitt reminds me of Jeff Bridges in Starman. He's like an alien that hasn't read the entire manual. You know, he's going, "Nice to be in a place where the trees are the right size. -- Robin Williams on Letterman 26 Apr 2012

    by hungrycoyote on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 02:43:44 AM PDT

  •  Romney's entire campaign is based on a lie (59+ / 0-)

    even his central premise - Obama made the economic crisis worse - is false.

    Convincing people of that, however, is a difficult task.

    Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
    ¡Boycott Arizona!

    by litho on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 03:23:38 AM PDT

    •  I know. It's so frustrating ... especially (10+ / 0-)

      since all Romney does is lie. If he had a case to make for himself, he would be stooping to twisting President Obama's words.

      For me, Mitt reminds me of Jeff Bridges in Starman. He's like an alien that hasn't read the entire manual. You know, he's going, "Nice to be in a place where the trees are the right size. -- Robin Williams on Letterman 26 Apr 2012

      by hungrycoyote on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 03:24:52 AM PDT

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    •  Romney is like a stopped clock (12+ / 0-)

      When he tells the truth it's strictly accidental.

      look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

      by FishOutofWater on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 04:29:49 AM PDT

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    •  Yep, although all the above is true... (16+ / 0-)

      ... it took me over 5 minutes to just skim through it, and that was with a huge amount of foreknowledge on the incidents/topic, plus, a somewhat open mind... Team-O has to come up with a way to do this in 10 seconds or less for everyone... "America the Beautiful" was great at this, but in these days and times this will never be a game changer by itself, as it might have been 20 years ago... Team-O will have to NOT RESPOND to anything from Team-Rmoney and continue with a slam dunk every week through November... otherwise Rmoney succeeds with an aggravating 12-11 final score with a four-corners strategy... exploiting and bending or ignoring every single rule is what Mittens does... his whole life... and he doesn't know anything else... and it has served him well


      "Generosity, Ethics, Patience, Effort, Concentration, and Wisdom"

      by Dood Abides on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 04:39:14 AM PDT

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      •  What would work beautifully... (9+ / 0-)

        is if we could get reporters to actually report on facts, like the fact that Romney is being a blatent liar and trying to mislead voters.

        I don't understand what happened in this country, reporters can no longer call a liar a liar - that's too partisan.  We have the internet and can fact check Romney in a matter of seconds, but every person in the media is too fricken scared to tell the truth, they have to pussyfoot around it, then sugar coat it, before wrapping it in a layer of opinion and deep fry it before giving it to the public.  Ssly, WTF happened?

        Facts are liberally bias

        by SuzieQ4624 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 07:05:31 AM PDT

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    •  Reporters may not call Rmoney out for (17+ / 0-)

      his lies, but Pres Obama will during the debates. And Mittens, born to privilege, unused to anyone ever questioning him -- he gets so prickly and condescending when anyone exposes his hypocrisy and lies. During the debates he kept telling people that it was HIS turn to talk (and placing $10,000 bets...Hah!) On the campaign trail he got snotty with a crowd that didn't believe corporations are people too, my friend!

      I remember John McCain's seething rage and how in one debate he couldn't even look at Barack Obama -- Mittens may not by that bad, but he will not come across well. He's told so many lies and he has so many versions of positions, he's going to flail and wither when he has to face the President.

      I, for one, can't wait.

      The search for truth and knowledge is one of the finest attributes of a man, though often it is most loudly voiced by those who strive for it the least -- Albert Einstein

      by theKgirls on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 04:47:56 AM PDT

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      •  And yet (12+ / 0-)

        how many times, in how many debates has the Democratic candidate logically and factually, trounced the vapid talking points and sometimes incomprehensible "comebacks" of their opponent; remember got wood?

        Yet the pundits wax ecstatic over how "confident" or "firm" the Republican was in dribbling his responses down his chin while sneering at the metrosexual "weakness" or flip floppiness of the Democrat.

        "Well?  Why couldn't he admit whether he's got wood or not?" Loser!

        Don't expect the debates to be a game changer. The mainstream, Beltway Boyars who will be "managing" the debate will report differently than the reality. Count on it!

        •  Well, a few things... (11+ / 0-)

          first, Romney is not a good debater.  He wasn't even good at debating other Republicans.  He got really snotty and defensive, which are major turn offs to voters.

          Second, since he's lived such a privledged life, he's not used to having to fight for anything.  He firmly believes that he can buy the highest office in this country.  He's not ready for a one on one fight with Obama.

          Third, he's literally taken every single position on every single issue.  He either needs to walk back on previous statements he made or he actually needs to debate every side of an issue, which is a lose-lose situation (he's either a weakling or a liar).

          And last, it's not like Obama is running against a run of the mill, regular, ordinary Republican.  Mitt Romney can't even get his own base to like him, how the hell is he going to convince all the non-crazy people?  The only accomplishments he can brag about, he's now embarrased of.   Again, a lose-lose situation for him, he's either inexperienced or a raging hypocrite.

          Facts are liberally bias

          by SuzieQ4624 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 07:10:48 AM PDT

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          •  I agree with all that (1+ / 0-)
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            but the "debates will still be "moderated" by CNN, ABC Fox "news" and other prime examples of Washington punditry.

            That was my point. The Democrat almost always wins. The media spins like Boulder Dam dynamos to make it seem otherwise.

            Who are you going to believe? Wolf Blitzer & Candy Crowley, or your lying eyes.  Far too many barely interested voters are willing to go with the dog. It happens every election.

            My point?  Expect a neutral effect, if there are "debates" at all.

            •  I think you're overestimated... (0+ / 0-)

              the number of people who listen to or watch talking head programs.  Yes, the debates will be moderated by a talking head, but all the pre and post debate coverage is for the political junkies, who likely already have their minds made up.

              I see your point thought, it doesn't work to our advantage to have bias assholes spinning debate results, but a lot of people just tune into the debate and don't care about what talking heads say, but formed opinions based on their own impressions/feelings regarding what they saw.

              A lot of casual political observers will see a debate on in prime time on ABC, CBS, NBC, etc and will turn it on for a bit to let it play in the background.  They may miss everything the moderator says, along with all the nuances and bias softball questions but will hear Romney stammering like an idiot, acting like a spoiled child, being called out for being a liar on national TV and getting very defensive - those are not qualities we generally look for in a President.  

              To the casual political observer, they may not hear everything or understand all the issues, but they vote based on impressions and feelings, not issues or talking head opinions.

              Facts are liberally bias

              by SuzieQ4624 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 11:25:54 AM PDT

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      •  Both McCain and Mitt think they are "owed" (3+ / 0-)

        the presidency.

        Because they are alphas.  Rich sons of rich men, wealthy, powerful....white.  Given respect that they often didn't deserve. Also hung up on "one upping" their dominant fathers.

        McCain could barely stand being on the same stage with "that one." He got emotional, while Obama remained calm and focused.

        Mitt is used to giving orders, not debating. He, too, will be wondering why he even has to go through this exercise, since he is so obviously the superior being.  He gets easily irritated, he has trouble with the idea that he has to persude anyone to do anything.

        He's going to get clobbered.

        Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

        by Sirenus on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 07:46:02 AM PDT

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    •  Rmoney made millions shipping jobs overseas (18+ / 0-)

      and now blames Obama for the unemployment rate!

      Rmoney lives in America, but parks his money in foreign banks to
      avoid paying taxes - then blames Obama for the deficit!

      "Tax cuts for the 1% create jobs." -- Republicans, HAHAHA - in China

      by MartyM on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 06:02:57 AM PDT

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    •  Republicans in Congress have worked (9+ / 0-)

      To make the economy fail as a Campaign tactic!  That is a despicable political calculation that Republican voters refuse to acknowledge.

      Dick Cheney said, "Pi$$ on 'em!" And, Ronald Reagan replied, "That's a Great Idea. Let's Call it 'Trickle Down Economics!"

      by NM Ray on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 06:27:34 AM PDT

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    •  Well, do what you can. Ad going up on my FB in (2+ / 0-)
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      Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

      by Sirenus on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 07:28:27 AM PDT

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  •  "Tamper"? More like "Lie" (14+ / 0-)

    Romney lies. period. Lying must be a business strait.

    •  I think they were referring to the fact (6+ / 0-)

      that Romney "tampered" with the video of President Obama speaking to make it sound like he was saying the opposite of what he actually said.

      If they called the video Lie or Liar, they'd have to add roman numerals after the name of each video. We'd probably be up to "Lie XL" by now.

      For me, Mitt reminds me of Jeff Bridges in Starman. He's like an alien that hasn't read the entire manual. You know, he's going, "Nice to be in a place where the trees are the right size. -- Robin Williams on Letterman 26 Apr 2012

      by hungrycoyote on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 03:37:46 AM PDT

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      •  Tampered is too tepid a word (6+ / 0-)

        The ad's okay but not the knockout punch it needs to be.  Dem's still don't know how to find visceral, effective words.  Obama's been much better with his ads but I don't think this particular ad is as effective as it can and should be.  Too much time reminding the public of Mitt's words.  It's an inside-the-beltway ad that does not throw a visceral punch.  Too intellectual, and it feels a tad reactive.  

        I've been thrilled with PBO's recent ads but this one is just not as effective, IMO.  

  •  Lying is necessary because Romney (24+ / 0-)

    doesn't have any truths that will serve him.

    If he were proud of his record as governor, instead of running from it; if his experiences at Bain had actually been good for workers instead of just shareholders; if his own finances showed faith in America or personal generosity beyond his church; if he still believed any of the positions he proclaimed in the past; if he had a vision for the country besides more tax cuts for himself; if he could honestly convince voters that he cared about them and their needs, then he wouldn't have to resort to eviscerating the President through false advertising.

    Sadly, for everyone, he's got nothing but lies--(and the money to spread them).

    Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

    by SottoVoce on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 03:33:08 AM PDT

  •  But why does MSNBC get away with it? (6+ / 0-)

    When they replay the ad, even if they say in dialogue that it was edited, it sticks for some. Why weren't there 100,000 emails of complaint?

  •  To leave something out is to tell a half (10+ / 0-)

    truth.  While it is possible to get something entirely wrong and for a falsehood to be accidental, a half truth is intentionally deceptive. That's why in court one is sworn to tell the "whole truth."
    So, in my book, a deceptive half truth is morally worse than a lie.  Also, a lie may be motivated by self-protection; a half-truth aims to deceive and injure.

    Willard's forte = "catch 'n' cage"

    by hannah on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 03:49:09 AM PDT

    •  A half-truth twisted into a whole lie is the best (2+ / 0-)
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      kind of propaganda, in terms of effectiveness.

      And propaganda is what the GOP uses, and they can afford the best talent that money can buy.

      With a half-truth lie, you can't simply say, "That's a lie." You have to explain why it's a lie. And in our 10 second sound-bite world, you're rarely given the time.

      You are so right. The half-truth twisted into a whole lie is almost always intentional....and created by experts.

      Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

      by Sirenus on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 07:53:41 AM PDT

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      •  So make a commercial with someone swearing (0+ / 0-)

        on a bible (subtle imagery there) to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  Then ask Romney why he "approves" of messages where the President's words are manipulated into lies.  That's not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, Romney.  Just what vow did he take and on what bible?

        •  I think the name of the ad also (1+ / 0-)
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          insinuates that.

          "Tampered" makes people think of "Tampered with the evidence." That's things people do to hide something.

          For me, Mitt reminds me of Jeff Bridges in Starman. He's like an alien that hasn't read the entire manual. You know, he's going, "Nice to be in a place where the trees are the right size. -- Robin Williams on Letterman 26 Apr 2012

          by hungrycoyote on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 11:30:03 AM PDT

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  •  I'm glad to see this (7+ / 0-)

    I like that Obama's campaign linked this to previous cases. I wish a better picture was being painted via Obama's campaign ads of Willard's character. Maybe he has and I just missed it, but the whole Etch-a-sketch character that he's been doing, and the i'm rubber you're glue, and the lies. I see it all the time on MSNBC and to a lesser extent CNN, but people expect the news media to talk about this stuff. If it can be in campaign ads, then it reaches a larger audience. And hopefully this sticks in defining Willard.

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    by LEARNINGlover on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 04:32:53 AM PDT

  •  I think the ad is too complex (5+ / 0-)

    Play what PBO actually said.  Highlight what Mitt manipulated and eliminated.  Give one short clip of Mitt's distorted.  End the ad with,

    "THAT's the TRUTH"

  •  They will say anything, lie about anything, in (6+ / 0-)

    this campaign.  

    One of the only ways to counter this is to pull the rug out from under them.

    Make ads about facts, not ads that respond to their manipulations.  

    Make ads that bluntly state the facts of the matters at hand.

    Romney pioneered offshoring and the destruction of labor.  

    Romney is hiding his money in ways that push the envelope and that might be illegal.  

    Romney is a cruel bastard who bullied those who seemed different or weaker.  

    Romney took government money-- lots of it-- in specific ways that made it possible for Bain to be profitable in specific ways.  

    Romney was the governor of the most liberal state in the country and sold himself to that state as a liberal governor. Here are all the clips of Romney saying he was liberal and touting liberal decisions.

    Romney has five or six mansions worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and here's what they look like, and here's how much they cost to maintain per year, and here's what the average American's house looks like.  Do you think Romney could possibly understand what it's like to sit at the kitchen table and decide which bills to pay?  He'd have to decide which table at which of his luxury mansions first.

    That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

    by concernedamerican on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 05:43:32 AM PDT

  •  it's still summer. it's still early. (3+ / 0-)

    when enough of us join the campaign as active members, when enough truth is shown, when enough voters are fired up, when it hits close to home, when changes are made in just enough people's viewpoints, when points are made that resonate, when enough eyes are opened...

    gobama! any way you like.

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    by greenbird on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 05:45:36 AM PDT

  •  thanks for this.... (5+ / 0-)

    I just sent parts of it to my right wing relative to counter the multiple emails expressing OUTRAGE that Obama attacked businesses

    "You've got to be an optimist to be a Democrat, and a humorist to stay one" - Will Rogers

    by KnotIookin on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 05:51:16 AM PDT

    •  Yeah! That's why I dug deeper than the (0+ / 0-)

      ad and found all the links mentioned in the ad. You know, in case somebody said that it was President Obama who was lying in this ad.

      What I wasn't prepared for was the fact that the first link in some cases actually lead to even more links.

      For me, Mitt reminds me of Jeff Bridges in Starman. He's like an alien that hasn't read the entire manual. You know, he's going, "Nice to be in a place where the trees are the right size. -- Robin Williams on Letterman 26 Apr 2012

      by hungrycoyote on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 11:36:23 AM PDT

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  •  Obama should NEVER go on the defensive. (4+ / 0-)

    Never explain what you said. That's done with. Romney owns the "didn't build that" issue. Let him have it. Just keep attacking Romney for swindling, destroying American jobs, the public and hiding his ill-gotten gains.

  •  Romney is a liar. (5+ / 0-)

    I am glad the Obama campaign is keeping up with these rebuttals and after this election I would like to quash "free speech" in elections by first silencing corporations in the form of publicly financed elections.  Secondly we should penalize ads that are ...what's the word I am looking for ...false.

    Like most of you here I suppose you can categorize me as a political junkie.  I don't see how the average American can walk through this minefield of false, misleading and propagandistic advertising.  Yeah I love the 1st Amendment but at the cost of being able to make an informed decision in order to vote?  I can't use my free speech to yell fire in a movie theater.  So there are exceptions.  I am saying that choosing a president should be one of those exceptions.  These ads should be factually based.

  •  Get off defense! Yes, it's (4+ / 0-)

    important to set the record straight on what as actually said but then stop explaining.

    Start talking about how big businesses build their companies using American workers and American infrastructure and then hide their money offshore or outsource jobs. They built their businesses on the backs of American workers and this great American system and then turn their backs on the country and the workers. (It also neatly ties in with what Bain did and what Romney does with his own money).

    If Obama makes that a part of his campaign theme, people will hear THAT when they hear the Romney ads, as deceptive as those ads are. Instead of the impression Romney is trying to leave, that Obama is denigrating SMALL mom and pop businesses, people will hear Obama (even edited) and tie it in their mind to his campaign theme about big business outsourcing and offshoring.

    Even if they hear "you didn't build that" as Romney wants them to, as "you didn't build your business", they will STILL agree with it once it's been tied to the idea that big companies are turning their backs on the workers that DID build the businesses products with their own hands.

    Look, there needs to be some jujitsu here, not just defensive explaining. This CAN be turned into a positive.

    I'm a dyslexic agnostic insomniac. I lie awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

    by rennert on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 05:58:45 AM PDT

    •  I keep this on file to cut and paste when I (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      need to counter the "government is the problem!" crap.

      "I'll make you a deal.

      You don't have to do anything the government tells you to do from now on. You do whatever you like, whenever you like, no taxes, no regulations, nothing.

      Of course, you also won't get any government services.

      No police protection. No fire fighters.  No CIA, no FBI, no Marines, Army, Air Force or Navy. (All those folks are government employees, you know.)

      You can only drive on private roads. No city streets, no county roads, no state or interstate highways.  If the EPA finds out that the factory down the street is pouring toxins into the air you breathe or the water you drink, you don't get told. If the CDC detects a new strain of flu or an outbreak of a deadly virus, you won't hear about it.  If you currently use municipal or SUD or city water, dig a well in your back yard as soon as possible.

      You can use anyone you want to build your house. If it turns out that they used wiring so cheap it's made your' house a firetrap or the pipes all break in the first freeze or the roof shingles are put on backwards, too bad. No regulations, remember? No inspectors. And you're only allowed to drive an old gas guzzler with no seat belts, because otherwise you'd be benefiting from government regs concerning gas mileage and safety equipment.

      You can't register your house deed with the county clerk, so you have no legal proof you own the home and anyone who wants to take it--and has a bigger gun than yours--can just move in. (No police protection, remember?)  Stay healthy, because you can't use drugs that have been checked by the government to make sure they're not dangerous.....just go to your local snake oil salesman or drug lord and you'll be fine.  You also can't use any doctor whose training was certified by the state or who attended a government funded school. In fact, you can't use the services of any professional who went to a state school or benefited from government loans for college.  

      And BTW, if you have kids, remember that private schools cost a lot of money. A lot of money.

      When you buy gas, please get it from a source other than a pump that's checked by state inspectors to make sure that you get a gallon when you pay for a gallon.  When you fly, only fly from private airports that use FAA air traffic controllers.  

      In fact, why don't you just find a piece of wilderness and start setting up your own Randian utopia....sans any government of any kind. I'm sure that "survival of the fittest" will work just fine for you...provided no one's around who's bigger and meaner than you are."

      Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

      by Sirenus on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 08:01:47 AM PDT

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  •  Mitt 2012's ethical equivalence: (3+ / 0-)

    a) O has effective attack ads using Mitt quotes.
    b) Mitt should have effective attack ads too, using made up O quotes.

    Unfortunately, the MSM is interested in a close race, so it participates.  

    "My taxes are of the legally correct height, and the core reason for my campaign is to make them a different, lower height, and it is none of your business what precisely either of those heights might be." Mitt, as channelled by Hunter.

    by Inland on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 06:20:39 AM PDT

  •  If this is the best Romney can do (8+ / 0-)

    he is screwed.  Right now the media isn't really paying too much attention to the campaigns.  Once things ramp up closer to the election, Romney will get lambasted for this by the MSM as it is completely indefensible.  The best desciption I read of this scheme is that it is the equivalent to a kidnappers ransom note made with random newspaper clippings.  

    Also, what is this about,

    Romney’s team edited the president’s remarks to make an entirely different, and much more offensive,  point than the one Obama actually made.
    and this,
    removing a chunk in order to make Obama’s remarks seem far worse than they are.
    These quotes, and I've seen similar elsewhere, seem to indicate that there really was something offensive in the speech, just not as bad as Romney made it to be.  Is it really offensive to explain to people the benefits of living in a society?
  •  Good commercial. In this day and age of lies (2+ / 0-)
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    JKTownsend, Only Needs a Beat

    flying 'fast and furious', it's hard to get noticed when you say the other guy is lying, but this ad does a good job.

    "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

    by eXtina on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 06:45:25 AM PDT

  •  Easy with that word destroy. (1+ / 0-)
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    This is all a side show.  The main event starts in September and campaigns are feeling each other out.

    "But once John Boehner is sworn in as Speaker, then he’s going to have responsibilities to govern. You can’t just stand on the sidelines and be a bomb thrower." - President Obama, 12-07-2010

    by justmy2 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 07:09:46 AM PDT

  •  Thank you for posting this. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Only Needs a Beat, askew

    This completely false ad is already taking on a life of it's own.

    Here's an LTE sent in by a reader to The Press of Atlantic City:

    Obama remarks insulting

    to U.S. business owners

    President Barack Obama really bombed this time, when he said, "If you've got a business - you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

    He attacked those small-business people who are the driving force of our economy and produce many jobs, chiding them not to take credit for their achievement. It was thanks to the government, through its highways and bridges, that they lucked out.

    As one who proved himself a top salesperson in my industry during the late Carter years, when the economy was in a rut, naturally I am concerned.

    At that time, my endeavors generated numerous jobs held by taxpayers who helped pay for those highways and bridges, unlike almost half the people today who don't pay any federal taxes.

    There was nobody but me who made it all possible, an endeavor rendered meaningless by Obama's vicious rhetoric.

    Next I fear successful people will be labeled "enemies of the people," the favorite weapon of the old Soviet Union. This kind of talk dividing the nation is not what Americans look for in a leader. Obviously it is time for a new one.

    Of course, I replied (not worried about my identity, either)
    Dear Tony De Angelis and by extension, The Press of Atlantic City. It would due you as well as the devoted readers of The Press a little justice to properly report the facts.

    For starters, here's what Obama actually said:

    "Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business — you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative but also because we do things together."

    Secondly, it appears that Mr. De Angelis has been struck by the ad "These Hands", put out by Mitt Romney which selectively edits the words above in the ad to make it appear as if Obama is trashing business owners. Well, let's see how Jack Gilchrist, owner of Gilchrist Metal, got his start, as it's truly something to see.

    "The New Hampshire Union Leader's John DiStato today reports that in 1999 the business in question, Gilchrist Metal, "received $800,000 in tax-exempt revenue bonds issued by the New Hampshire Business Finance Authority 'to set up a second manufacturing plant and purchase equipment to produce high definition television broadcasting equipment'…" In addition, in 2011, Gilchrist Metal "received two U.S. Navy sub-contracts totaling about $83,000 and a smaller, $5,600 Coast Guard contract in 2008…".

    The businessman, Jack Gilchrist, also acknowledged that in the 1980s the company received a U.S. Small Business Administration loan totaling "somewhere south of" $500,000, and matching funds from the federally-funded New England Trade Adjustment Assistance Center.

    "I'm not going to turn a blind eye because the money came from the government," Gilchrest said. "As far as I'm concerned, I'm getting some of my tax money back. I'm not stupid, I'm not going to say 'no.' Shame on me if I didn't use what's available." (Source: Jake Tapper/Yahoo News - ).

    So in this case, not only does it appear that Mr. Gilchrist didn't build the roads that Obama was actually referring to in his speech, Mr. Gilchrist didn't build that business all by himself.

    No, Mr. Tony De Angelis helped build it through his tax dollars and is now making the same tired, out of context argument that Mr. Rmoney is making.

    And no, Rmoney isn't a typo.

    Thanks for playing.

    I have changed my signature. I've added my Flickr photostream. Take a look. We'll BOTH appreciate it.

    by Stand Strong on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 07:34:44 AM PDT

  •  If you're playing defense in politics... (4+ / 0-)

    you are losing.

    I don't like that Obama is on the defensive here. He had the upper hand with the Bain narrative by putting Romeny on defense, now it seems that that narrative has faded and now it is all about Obama defending what he said.

    We all know it is bullshit how Romney twisted things, but being on the attack is always better than being on defense.

    More attack, less defending. No reason the attacks need to stop.

    I live in Florida, and no, I don't "get" my state either.

    by weelzup on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 07:37:16 AM PDT

  •  weaksauce... (0+ / 0-)

    If Obama really wanted to pounce on Rmoney, he should create a poorly edited video of a Romney speech where he says something  like " the world"  - you know Colbert style.  And then have the voice over say something like, "We can edit videos to make our opponent look bad too, we just aren't as good at it."  This is weak ass shit.

    'Osama Bin Ladien is still dead and GM is still alive' - Joe Biden "Dems kill terrorist. The GOP keeps them around as a boogeyman - so they can continue to steal."

    by RichM on Tue Jul 24, 2012 at 07:51:35 AM PDT

  •  ITs the same stupid republican playbook (0+ / 0-)

    That everyone of them uses since Ronald Reagan. Brietbart, Limbaugh, Beck, insert hate mongering republican here, crapola that really pisses me off.

    They are insulting you. You are too stupid to notice the changes. You don't pay attention to detail. You are part of the herd that they will continue to fleece and slughter for thier benefit.  They put this shit out as red hot smoking gospel truth when they KNOW its a HUGE LIE.

    Its absurd to even begin to think that the republicans will ever talk about substantive policy issues because they have none. They are owned by the onepercent and in most cases are part of the one percent and are overseeing those slow witted dullards that they bought so that they don't inadvertantly open a can of worms by straying from the talking points. They will only lie. Its what they do.

    I am tired of shitty propaganda from a morally bankrupt political party. I 'm tired of there being no consequences for deliberately spreading disinformation.

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