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Shoot-em-up Charlie:  How should you react in the event of a deadly shooting spree?

First, remain calm.

If everyone is armed, the situation will be much safer . . .

. . .  particularly if everyone happens to be wearing full body armor, just like the bad guy!

Second, continue pushing gun-friendly legislation, if 6-year-olds were allowed to carry concealed weapons, clearly, lives would have been saved!

Be sure to arm yourself with election year Fear-of-God rounds, which help replace actual gun safety laws with wonderful, wonderful words, that make us feel warm, somber and patriotic at the same time!

Keep your gaze steady and remain focused on the "why" not the "how."

It's the why that keeps 'em guessing for longer!

Remember, dead children and moviegoers are a price we have to pay-- lest we slip back into the dark days of tyranny . . . when we couldn't buy assault rifles and 100-round magazines!

See, guns don't kill people . . . people with guns that shoot 70 people in under two minutes kill people!

Originally posted to Comics on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 06:56 AM PDT.

Also republished by Friends of Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, Daily Kos, and DKOMA.

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  •  Hmmm... (2+ / 0-)
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    drmah, Larsstephens

    .... sometimes I find the "screengrab" of these animations aren't the best choice. Is having a cartoon version of a mass-murderer really what we want on the front page of DK?

  •  Nicely done. (10+ / 0-)

    The "why" vs "how" bit especially hits home.  As does the audio at the end.  Very powerful.

  •  No Mark. Tell me how you really feel! (6+ / 0-)

    I agree completely.

    T/R +4

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 07:05:53 AM PDT

  •  Guns DO kill people. (11+ / 0-)

    They're designed to kill people.  And modern weapons are designed to kill a lot of people.  People kill people?  Yeah, give me a link to the last psychopath who killed 12 people in 2 minutes with a typewriter or a baseball bat.  Dead people is the price the rest of us pay for the gun lobby's "freedoms".  All of this is not just conveniently lost in the argument about "gun rights"; it's actively avoided by those pushing their love of guns on the rest of us.

    The road to Hell is paved with pragmatism.

    by TheOrchid on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 07:08:17 AM PDT

    •  Sorry... (1+ / 0-)
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      A gun sitting in a safe or on a table is incapable of self-animation.  Someone has to actually make a conscious decision to pick it up and use it to kill another human being. Lizzy Borden did it with an axe, Tim McVeigh did it with a truck loaded with explosives, terrorists did it with a couple of jets crashing into two buildings, over 400 were killed in the Cinema Rex fire in Iran in 1978.  Every murder is horrible, whether one person is killed or thousands.  Everyone seems intensely focused on the number of people and how it was done.  Why are we not more concerned about why the guy would even contemplate such an act?  

      In a society where a moron named "Snookie" makes millions while people with a PhD can't find a job I'm going to suggest that the root of the problem probably has little to do with the accessibility of 100 round clips.

      •  Lizzie Borden was acquitted (3+ / 0-)

        and even if guilty, she would have been responsible for two murders. So that's one of three examples that's totally irrelevant on several counts.

        Now as to the other two examples - we have spent quite literally billions of dollars preventing the "how" in both of those cases, so am I to assume that you believe we should expend an equal effort dealing with the "how" of mass murders with guns?

        We have placed barriers around many Federal and other buildings to keep truck bombs at a distance. I'd assume (although I don't know for sure) that large purchases of fertilizer by out-of-towners who don't farm would likely lead to an investigation - unlike purchases of 6000 rounds of ammo. We expend enough investigative effort to prevent car bombs exploding, as in the recent Times Square attempt - where's the equivalent effort with respect to mass gun deaths?

        We spend billions of dollars on security theater - X-ray scanners, TSA, removing shoes, no-fly lists, etc. - along with some reasonable security precautions - locked cockpit doors, requiring ID at check-in, metal detectors, caution with regard to unattended luggage, etc.

        So in both of your valid comparable examples, we have spent time and money dealing with the "how" and its prevention. Now you need to explain why we shouldn't put forward the same kind of effort with respect to guns, because we repeatedly find ourselves debating this in the aftermath of yet another gun-related mass murder.

        The 2nd Amendment is how we're prevented from dealing with mass gun murders - it isn't a justification for why we fail to do so.

        There's something wrong with a society that equates Lizzie Borden's accusal/acquittal of murdering her parents with an ax with the obvious use of guns to murder 12 people in a theater, dozens more in various high school and college shootings, or 70+ on an island in Norway.

        In Soviet Russia, you rob bank. In America, bank robs you.

        by badger on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 10:24:02 AM PDT

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      •  The proximate cause of death in a shooting... (3+ / 0-)
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        ...is the gun.  Not the guy holding the gun.  The gun is what kills the shooter's victims.  Anyone who denies that an object that's designed to kill is not the cause of death is simply not facing reality.  It's fantasy-think.

        The road to Hell is paved with pragmatism.

        by TheOrchid on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 10:32:16 AM PDT

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      •  You should be sorry for your gross (0+ / 0-)

        intellectual dishonesty. The absurd number of gun murders in the U.S. is tied to the availability of guns and ammo.

    •  Psychopaths (0+ / 0-)

      Who kill 12 people in 2 minutes?

      Are we talking about Republican Governors who turn down the Obamacare Medicaid expansion and insist upon maintaining a number of uninsured Americans well into the tens of millions for reasons of "ideology"?

      Fake candidates nominated by the GOP for the recalls: 6 out of 7. Fake signatures on the recall petitions: 4 out of 1,860,283.

      by GeoffT on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 02:18:25 PM PDT

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  •  On the Serious Sie: PTSD and the Colorado Shooting (2+ / 0-)
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    Meet people who have been there at AboutFace. Learn about PTSD and hear advice from Veterans who lived with PTSD and want to help others:

    "I wanted my old self back. I’ve gotten that and more."

    Even if you are not a Veteran, find people you can relate to.

    Find information to help survivors of disasters like the Colorado shooting. For more tips and resources to help children see the National Child Traumatic Stress Network.

    Resources for Disaster Survivors and the Public

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    Not to take away from the cartoon but to add to your serious look at.

    Especially kids, they don't need to have been there, if they've been witness to the extensive coverage, anywhere, they can easily start have trouble such as bad dreams and acting out, that's where the adult responsibility kicks in!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 07:10:43 AM PDT

  •  LOVE THIS! (9+ / 0-)

    I grew up in an ammo dump (about 15 guns in the house), and it frightened me. Family member is a card - carrying member of the NRA. This issue is the one that REALLY gets me going.

    "HERPES was more popular than Dick Cheney when he left office!" Rachel Maddow 5/23/12

    by CityLightsLover on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 07:11:36 AM PDT

  •  Make sense. (4+ / 0-)
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    Let's regulate crappy cartoon guns.

  •  Well this pretty much sums up the reaction (2+ / 0-)
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    Your point is well taken but only by rational folk and we don't seem to have a lot of those in the country these days when it comes to firearms.

  •  Ka-ching! Ka-ching! (4+ / 0-)


    The NRA is a $200 million-plus-a-year lobbying gargantuan:  its money comes from gun manufacturers and merchandising.

     The NRA is all about marketing: its number one product:  fear.

    The NRA made a fortune after Obama was elected president-based on the ludicrous assertion that he was, "Coming after their guns!"

    Their marketing and merchandising skills: topnotch.

    They sell fear------- and they reap enormous profits from it.

    "But the protesters were only armed with chalk---the cops had guns and batons----and they were beating the protesters."

    by lyvwyr101 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 07:28:04 AM PDT

  •  30yo door-to-door salesman "executed" in FL (8+ / 0-)

    http://www.news-press.com/...

    A man selling frozen lobster tails and steaks door to door Wednesday afternoon in Cape Coral was fatally shot by a homeowner before the gunman was ordered to the ground by an off-duty Collier County corrections deputy, according to Cape police and witnesses.

    Officers arrested Kenneth Bailey Roop, 52, and charged him with second-degree murder in the death of Nicholas Rainey, 30, a meat salesman for Blue Ribbon Steak and Seafood. Cape police said the shooting occurred in front of Roop’s home at 1815 SW 30th Terrace.

    ::snip::

    “He was telling the officer, ‘he stepped on my property, he trespassed, I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property,’ somewhere along them lines. It was just unbelievable,” Snyder said.

    Cape Police Chief Jay Murphy said it’s too early to say whether Roop was defending himself under the parameters of Florida’s justifiable use of force statute.

    MORE

    http://www.news-press.com/...

    As Rainey drew within 4 feet, Roop grabbed his 9mm Glock from his pocket and fired once, striking Rainey in the shoulder, he told police. Rainey fell to the ground, screaming, ‘You shot me,’ in what Roop described as an “antagonistic” manner, according to the report.

    Roop said he was still in fear and thought Rainey was reaching for something, so he shot Rainey once more in the back of the head, “for effect,” the report said. A company order brochure and cell phone were found near Rainey’s body.

    Roop told detectives Rainey should have respected his three “No Trespassing” signs and explained he didn’t warn Rainey after pulling his weapon because, “I’m not going to give him the chance to do something to me; I was in fear.” He told police he believes he possesses 14 firearms.

    •  Ah yes. What could possibly go wrong with (2+ / 0-)
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      Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law?

      How many more killings will it take for this dangerous legislation to be repealed?

      "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

      by Lily O Lady on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 08:19:48 AM PDT

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  •  That's funny but sadly true. (0+ / 0-)

    At an internet cafe in Florida, two men tried to rob the cafe and an elderly man, who was licensed to carry a gun,  was in the cafe and started shooting the robbers who fell all over each other to get out. The robbers later went to the hospital for treatment of their wounds and were arrested. If only this guy had been in CO maybe some lives could have been saved and the taxpayers wouldn't be out the cost of a trial and imprisonment.

    •  Yah, I really want all the "elderly men" (and wome (3+ / 0-)
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      n) in all the theaters and internet cafes and senior-special restaurants and Walmarts in FL to be all fired up about whipping out their anybody-can-get-a-FL-concealed-carry-permit S&Ws and Glocks and MAC 10s and pistol-grip pump guns and blasting awaaaaaay at some dimly perceived "threat."

      But then on the little evidence of your comment, you might be one of those people who harbor that secret vigilante gene, and actually believe that having another shooter, a not-yet-a-criminal gunner, in a movie theater to be "ready" to maybe, MAYBE via the dumbest of dumb luck (and tell me again how in the heat of a fusilade, a CC gunner is going to be able to aim a shot that precisely) put a bullet into one of the few vulnerable and "effective" patches of flesh of a weirded-out fellow-human like Holmes, is a GREAT idea. And the sick part is that there are  more of us with that same genetic defect.

      Other cultures are more, ah, "acculturated" to the seemingly increasingly common episodes of hometown boys "running amok:" http://en.wikipedia.org/... Maybe Ho0lmes was just gripped by the Tiger Spirit, eh?

      "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

      by jm214 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 09:53:51 AM PDT

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    •  Stupid right wing troll. n/t (0+ / 0-)
    •  Stupid comparison (0+ / 0-)

      There's probably a slight difference between an Internet cafe and a dark, noisy, smoke filled theater with a couple hundred occupants.

      While I'm sympathetic to some Second Amendment arguments, I'm not sympathetic to the idiotic blathering about Rambo wannabes who could have saved the day in Colorado.

      Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

      by TexasTom on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 05:13:09 PM PDT

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  •  Roger Ebert's Outstanding & Depressing Commentary (3+ / 0-)
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  •  One of your best. Thank you. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ~ Edward Abby

    by SaraBeth on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 08:09:04 AM PDT

  •  Ending it with the 911 calls was masterful (7+ / 0-)
  •  Another Artist's Take: (0+ / 0-)

    "A civilization which does not provide young people with a way to earn a living is pretty poor". Eleanor Roosevelt

    by Superpole on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 09:10:37 AM PDT

  •  Copycats have begun. Gunman in domestic shooting (2+ / 0-)
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    in Indianapolis, last night, dressed in black and wore complete body armour. He arrived at home of his ex carrying several guns, including an assult rifle. Dead is a neghbor, shot as he drove his car to his own home and an Anderson, IN Police Dog.  How many more Copycats need to shoot down the innocent before we finally say enough?

  •  the actual emergency calls (1+ / 0-)
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    were chilling and unexpected.

    "The only person sure of himself is the man who wishes to leave things as they are, and he dreams of an impossibility" -George M. Wrong.

    by statsone on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:29:31 PM PDT

  •  Brilliant and sobering (1+ / 0-)
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    GeoffT

    The audio at the end is a somber reminder that this is about the death of children and other innocent citizens, not an abstract debate about Freedom (TM) and Liberty (TM).

    "Republicans Vote To Repeal Obama-Backed Bill That Would Destroy Asteroid Headed For Earth." 2/2/11 The Onion

    by brooklyns finest on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:34:02 PM PDT

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