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  •  LOL Nice one nt (2+ / 0-)
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    Loozerio, xxdr zombiexx

    “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

    by 420 forever on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 03:06:01 PM PDT

  •  Around the time I quit my job as a deputy DA (17+ / 0-)

    They had opened up a for profit prison.  The pork plant was the largest employer in the county but it closed putting hundreds of people in a county of 25,000 people onto the unemployment lines.  Then, despite the opposition of the AFL-CIO and my boss, it reopened as a private prison.  Judges were encouraged to send convicted felons there instead of to the state pen, where the owners got convict labor killing the pigs and cutting and packaging the meat without having to pay the workers.  My last day on the job the judge sent defendant after defendant there.  It was sickening.

    "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

    by Navy Vet Terp on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 03:10:17 PM PDT

    •  Didn't Anyone Raise A Stink? (1+ / 0-)
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      Larsstephens

      Or is this a don't-ask, don't-tell kinda county?

      Time is an enormous, long river, and I’m standing in it, just as you’re standing in it. My elders are the tributaries, and everything they thought and every struggle they went through & everything they gave their lives to flows down to me-Utah Phillips

      by TerryDarc on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 03:35:54 PM PDT

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      •  Nope, only my boss n/t (3+ / 0-)
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        Loozerio, TerryDarc, Larsstephens

        "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

        by Navy Vet Terp on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 04:10:52 PM PDT

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        •  Well, It's An Amazing Story (1+ / 0-)
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          Larsstephens

          I think it deserves much wider coverage. Maybe you should do a diary!

          Can't believe that workers were dumped and prisoners brought in to do the exact same work! Do it! Write a diary, please.

          Time is an enormous, long river, and I’m standing in it, just as you’re standing in it. My elders are the tributaries, and everything they thought and every struggle they went through & everything they gave their lives to flows down to me-Utah Phillips

          by TerryDarc on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 04:33:39 PM PDT

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  •  WAR ON DRUGS? (11+ / 0-)

    Buehler?

    Many of those in prison aren't violent and aren't dangerous and they didn't fuck-up the economy or the world.

    But we have many better things to worry about than otherwise innocent people being in jail for stupid laws that cost our country $20 to $50 billion a year and have been eroding the constitution that many do -often - care about, and can be shown to be at the root of our modern police brutality problem.

    nope....we can't do anything about that.

    Nice cartoon.

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 03:10:57 PM PDT

  •  Paul Begala is calling Romney's tax plan (0+ / 0-)

    "Romney-hood" because it is a reverse Robin Hood plan in which Romney increases taxes on the middle class in order to pay for tax cuts for the rich.

    President Obama, January 9, 2012: "Change is hard, but it is possible. I've Seen it. I've Lived it."

    by Drdemocrat on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 03:13:37 PM PDT

  •  Right on the money (shareholders' portfolios) (1+ / 0-)
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    filby

    I'll give that comic a 10 out of 10 on the SSS (searing sarcasm scale). It'll make a nifty birthday gift for those soon-to-be non-sentient  Tea Party adolescents...ehh...and already non-sentient "adults". -(8^/>

  •  for-profit prisons ... yuck (4+ / 0-)
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    420 forever, Loozerio, deben, cybersaur

    what a country.

    An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

    by mightymouse on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 03:27:13 PM PDT

  •  Revenue Streams? (0+ / 0-)

    I'd never thought of it quite that way. Why we're all here to learn new stuff.

    But, I have a question: how can you afford to lose those "revenue" streams to executions? Can you just keep billing after a prisoner is offed?

    Time is an enormous, long river, and I’m standing in it, just as you’re standing in it. My elders are the tributaries, and everything they thought and every struggle they went through & everything they gave their lives to flows down to me-Utah Phillips

    by TerryDarc on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 03:32:58 PM PDT

  •  Also, plenty of white people inside (0+ / 0-)

    Poor white people, of course, often in for drug offenses.
    While inside, they can learn how to hate based on race and color as well as allegiance to a group or "kingpin". They join a gang inside that is easy to be a part of outside.

    Of course the chances of getting hired for a decent job once outside is practically nil. And going to school? If you've got a drug conviction you are disqualified for any financial aid--and ex-cons almost never have enough money to go to college, even community college. Without jobs or education, drug sales and theft are often the only ways to earn income so the reoffending rates go up, keeping the prison industrial complex humming. And don't forget about the three-strikes laws to keep the prison population higher for a lifetime.

    Meanwhile, no one talks about safe sex, rape, and STDs, insuring that after release AIDS within the poor community increases.

    It's a perfect system, if you're in the prison business.

  •  dystopia (0+ / 0-)

    the uberrich own everything. They rule with private armies. Only rule-by-force and property rights are honored. Government  is privatized.

    We live in a surveillance law-enforcement dystopia where most people are poor. They, and the disobedient are enslaved, chain-ganged in the factories; or worse.  You get sick, you rot and die. For the apparatchik, good benefits. (you know, socialism).

    EcoCollapse. Much of the middle latitudes are uninhabitable. The seas are high. Major cities are underwater. Hundreds of millions starving refugees. Diseases devour whole populations. The gated communities are protected, of course. They have universities and scientists who are well behaved and closely monitored. And so on...

    Let's crowd-source it - "Dystopia". Planetary feudalism 2020 - 1984 with vengeance. Actually, it could be a documentary, but we'd better hurry. Time is running out.

  •  ooh you knocked Obama! (0+ / 0-)

    So loud-clappers will knock YOU now!  And boy are they stupid because if we criticize Obama enough now before the election, he will suddenly change!  Because after, he won't!  And if Romney wins, prison populations will go DOWN except for all the bankers he'll jail because he's not that awful Obama!

  •  I love SeaMonkeys! (1+ / 0-)
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    oneworld

    The for-profit prison system and excessive incarceration rates-- not so much.

    --- Keep Christian mythology out of science class!

    by cybersaur on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 04:45:08 PM PDT

  •  I call bullshit! (1+ / 0-)
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    kestrel9000

    OK, I know it's trendy to be a "progressive who isn't afraid to criticize Obama ", but this is quite disingenuous.

    First off, we've had record numbers of incarceration for decades, under many different administrations. Are you really gonna try to pin this "mostly" on Obama? Second, most incarcerations occur at the state and county level. Please explain how that is Obama's fault. Third, I'd love to know exactly which of "Obama's" policies, i.e., policies that started under Obama, have lead to an increase in incarcerations. Last I checked, the Feds have stopped prosecuting MMJ users, and have only been going after for profit dispensaries which are not fully in compliance with state law. I live in a conservative county in a MMJ state, and there are still many dispensaries operating without being raided or shut down. Also, Obama's new immigration policy has actually decreased the number of people that can be deported. As far as I can tell, the only reason more deportations on the whole have occurred under Obama than Bush is because Bush didn't want to hurt all his big-business buddies that depend on undocumented workers to keep their profit margins up. I'm pretty sure it is Obama's DOJ that has been suing states over all these bogus immigration laws, like AZ and AL.

    Without a cooperative Congress to adress the law, all the President has is "prosecutorial discretion" Part of using prosecutorial discretion credibly is to continue to prosecute somebody, otherwise he's just accused of completely circumventing the law, and would be seen as soft on crime and negligent of his duties. But trying to postulate that Obama has actively sought to imprison record numbers of black and brown people is a joke.

    The man continues to do what he can for the disenfranchised with one hand tied behind his back, all while juggling a struggling economy, war, natural disasters, record political obstruction and outright disrespect for the office, as well as campaigning for the privilege to do it for four more years. I personally believe the only reason he's even running for reelection is so other minorities can have an iota of a chance to be elected in the future. God knows, much of the country is ungrateful for most of what he's done. And the pay isn't that great. I'm sure between Michelle and himself, they could earn $400,000 without all the headaches and gray hairs.

    Yes, part of being a good leader is leading with your convictions and doing what you think is right. Part of being a good elected leader is learning to pick your battles and play politics with forethought and intelligence. Last poll i saw had Romney at about 45% nationwide. This man could well be the worst candidate to run in a general presidential election in my lifetime, and 3 months from November it's still practically neck and neck. Now is not the time to rock the boat, unless you want to go for a swim.

    The point is, the cartoonist makes many valid points in the comic, but by slipping his little dig in on Obama, he discredits much of what he has to say, and turns off many of those that he would appeal to. Like me. I find myself caring less and less for what Tom Tomorrow has to say. He'll just end up another Glen Greenwald as far as I'm concerned.

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