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I'm still looking for more info than what inagist can provide.

Photo by David Colburn

Smashed windows at Obama campaign's downtown #Oakland HQ: on Twitpic

You have to advance the video to 17:40 for the vandalism. The video is by Courtney Occupy to whom I apologize to again for neglecting to put this in last night.


 
 
 
 
 


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Here is an example of the sentiment of those that are aware of this.

Apparently it was a Fuck the Police March but I'm not certain yet since it has not been confirmed. This is all very strange since the persons that seem involved are not the usual sort.

There is some speculation that the marchers are from Occupy Oakland also. Still no solid confirmation of either.

And the most reliable source says this is a combination crowd from a Fuck the Permit March and spillover crowd from an art gathering. There is no online presence for the Permit Marchers so further investigation will have to be done.

An Anonymous Medic was also attacked tonight by a stranger to the marchers.

This is the address I think that was vandalized.

Organizing for America Northern California Headquarters (Oakland, CA) (Oakland, CA)

1714 Telegraph Avenue
Oakland, CA 94612

Directions:
On Telegraph Avenue between 17th and 18th. Limited, metered parking. Accessible by Bart, (19th Street Station, Telegraph Exit), and AC transit.

Officer Johnna Watson, a spokeswoman for the Oakland police, confirmed in an email that a window of Obama's campaign office at 16th Street and Telegraph Avenue was smashed.

Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 10:55 PM PT: And the AP finally catches up:


An Anonymous but reliable source says this was a normal Friday night protest in Oakland. But there was also at least one person assaulted. This person was an Anonymous Medic that was trying to prevent the windows being broken out of a car. A car that may or may not have been occupied. 9:14 AM PT: 10:15 AM PT:
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  •  Half twit. (3+ / 0-)

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 09:53:13 PM PDT

  •  Protesting (4+ / 0-)

    what?

    We decided to move the center farther to the right by starting the whole debate from a far-right position to begin with. - Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay

    by denise b on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 09:55:11 PM PDT

  •  It was probably a tea party protest. (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Highly doubtful. (18+ / 0-)

      It was probably the usual anarcho dipshits that latch onto every liberal/progressive/labor/99% protest and give bad names and bad raps to good people and good causes.

      •  Oh please (1+ / 0-)
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        The anarchists are angels in comparison to your average gun-carrying tea party member.

        •  'Oh please' back at you. (9+ / 0-)

          It was a fucking 'fuck the police' protest.  When was the last time a fucking tea bagger glommed onto a 'fuck the police' protest and started smashing fucking windows?  Look at the the toolbag in the tweet above.  Does he look like a teabagger to you?

          You make the point for me.  When teabaggers go off, they don't fucking lob rocks through windows.  They blow up buildings and shoot up community centers.  I made no judgement about who is and is not an angel, so piss off with that strawman shit.

          If this were closer to the election, you might have a point (although you'd have been better served by saying it was the College Republicans or some fundie), but it's pretty fucking clear that no fucking teabagger used the 'fuck the police' march in fucking Oakland as a cover to lob rocks through the Obama campaign's window.

          •  Infiltrators & instigators. (6+ / 0-)

            East Bay local speaking here.  

            Local or out of town right wingers can blend in with left wingers and anarchists to start shit.  

            Don't doubt for one minute that these people exist: I've seen them start shit at local punk rock shows back in the day.  They get off on violence.  

            From a tactical perspective we should be circulating the meme that Tea Bagger infiltrators are starting this shit, and anyone who goes along with them is a Tea Bagger dupe.

            "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

            by G2geek on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 02:16:14 AM PDT

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            •  Brilliant Idea (1+ / 0-)
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              From a tactical perspective we should be circulating the meme that Tea Bagger infiltrators are starting this shit, and anyone who goes along with them is a Tea Bagger dupe.
              Will do.

              Now there are three stories saying who did this. I wonder how many more there will be. Having so much uncertainty about who did this at this point and time probably means who ever did this is not affiliated with an established group.

              Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

              by Horace Boothroyd III on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 07:07:00 AM PDT

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          •  F-Bomb count: (3+ / 0-)
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            10. Good thing they're free.

            "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

            by kestrel9000 on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 03:28:51 AM PDT

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            •  When they start outlawing F-bombs (4+ / 0-)
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              only outlaws will have F-bombs.

              ....no longer in SF.... -9.00, -7.38

              by TFinSF on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 05:04:13 AM PDT

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            •  hell, I'm up for tossing F-bombs at people who... (4+ / 0-)

              .... throw rocks.

              What we need is a counter-protest that surrounds their targets and then when they start chanting "Fuck the police!" or "Fuck Obama," our side chants right back at 'em: "Fuck you!  Fuck you!"

              I have a few ideas up my sleeve for nonviolent community defense against that shit, but given that this place has been infested with spies before, I'm going to keep them to myself and just talk to a few people.  

              One thing that I can mention here:

              Oakland ("Oaktown") is majority black.  And the majority of that majority despises this shit and wants it to stop.

              OK, so now envision a few hundred black Oaklanders guarding the Obama HQ, and when the Teabagger-infiltrated mob moves in, start chanting "Whitey go home!  Whitey go home!"  Hell, I'm nominally white and I'd join in with that one in a ten-second minute.

              "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

              by G2geek on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 05:15:50 AM PDT

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              •  Sorry but I have a life (3+ / 0-)
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                What we need is a counter-protest that surrounds their targets and then when they start chanting "Fuck the police!" or "Fuck Obama," our side chants right back at 'em: "Fuck you!  Fuck you!"
                There's actually effective, useful things that could be done while all thats going on.

                Happy just to be alive

                by exlrrp on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 05:35:48 AM PDT

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                •  yes, and some of those aren't... (0+ / 0-)

                  .... things I feel like discussing in a public place that is susceptible to infiltration by right-wing spies.  

                  "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

                  by G2geek on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 06:33:08 PM PDT

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              •  Is this before or after (2+ / 0-)
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                annecros, G2geek

                we let the rat loose in Chick-Fil-A? >;)

                "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

                by kestrel9000 on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 05:38:45 AM PDT

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                •  cockroaches. I was persuaded that rats.... (1+ / 0-)
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                  ... wouldn't be as effective for the purpose, and might have undesirable side-effects such as causing a stampede for the exit.  Whereas cockroaches are "merely" gross & disgusting, and not "scary."  

                  "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

                  by G2geek on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 06:35:54 PM PDT

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              •  Ummmmm..... (4+ / 0-)
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                I'm not so sure we want to have people screaming "whitey, go home" in front of an Obama HQ.

                Romney's already sinking.  Let's try not to throw him a life preserver, mmkay?

                Nothing to see here, move along

                by Jeff Seemann on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 08:43:22 AM PDT

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                •  It's a huge leap to assume all the people (0+ / 0-)

                  involved, or even most, are white.  Certainly the black bloc in other cities has been rather deficient in color but Oakland is rather more diverse.

                  There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

                  by AoT on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 11:34:07 AM PDT

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              •  Oakland is not majority black (1+ / 0-)
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                It is about 27% black and about 25% white and 25% hispanic, with about 16% asian.

                There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

                by AoT on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 12:56:00 PM PDT

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                •  Face it (1+ / 0-)
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                  Oakland is like an island of diversity in middle of a society that developed from people that thought sending Chinese laborers into the Sierra mines riding in open wagons wearing chains around their necks that thought it was okay to chain. That shipped every native person to the Catholic Missions...

                  There is a culture in Oakland that is refreshing to the point of being Bohemian.

                  So far what I have seen IRT BB, the destructive ones, is white suburban boys that have never worked a day in their life. They are soft and stupid and looking for excitement. Pathetic really.

                  Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

                  by Horace Boothroyd III on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 06:17:43 PM PDT

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                  •  Disregard: (0+ / 0-)

                    that thought it was okay to chain

                    Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

                    by Horace Boothroyd III on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 06:18:58 PM PDT

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                  •  I don't think you should pass judgement on whether (0+ / 0-)

                    people who are anonymous are soft and stupid.  The whole point of the black bloc is that you can't identify the individuals in it.  But, in Oakland people who participate in black block actions are far more diverse than you make them out to be.

                    There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

                    by AoT on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 09:48:56 PM PDT

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                  •  Considering that (0+ / 0-)

                    the Sierra mining heyday was 160-plus years ago and Father Serra packed up the native death squads well before that, perhaps those analogies are no longer valid as a measure of the society of the nation's most populous and diverse state.

      •  Sometimes it's hard to tell an anarcho dipshit (5+ / 0-)

        from a tea partier from my little corner, at least at functional level.  

        Perhaps it's worth exploring some questions with anarchists.  Is there really much of a difference in philosophy (factoring out religion) and functional behavior between anarchists and Tea Partiers?  Perhaps a factor of IQ?  How different is this sort of anarchist from hardcore Libertarian Tea Partier who hates big nanny/meddling government?  Is it more than too much caffeine or steroids?  How much would it bother anarchists to be recognized as having kinship with Tea Partiers?

        When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

        by antirove on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 10:39:50 PM PDT

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        •  I don't think... (4+ / 0-)
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          you're looking or thinking hard enough, because if you did, most of these distinctions would make themselves clear to you.

          When was the last time a teabagger lobbed a rock through a window or overturned a car?  When was last time a anarcho dipshit blew up a building or shot up a community center?

          Yes, their philosophies are different.  One is far left, the other is far right.  Certainly there are situations where the spectrum becomes more of a circle.  This is not one of them.  I can assure you the anarchos don't cheerlead for more tax breaks for the 1%, and the teabaggers aren't calling for the destruction of capitalism.

          IQ?  Probably no difference, a broad spectrum amongst both groups.

          I'd imagine the anarchist and hardcore Libertarian Tea Partier have about as much in common as a radical feminist and a fundamentalist Christian.  They both hate porn, so the MUST be alot alike, right?  I'm sure it would make them both puke to be mistaken for each other.

          •  The only example of the right (3+ / 0-)
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            doing this sort of thing would be the Brooks Brothers Riot in Florida.  Possibly swaying the election to Bush by influencing the vote of the canvassing board.

            Other than that it's brutal violence for the right wing.

            I'd imagine the anarchist and hardcore Libertarian Tea Partier have about as much in common as a radical feminist and a fundamentalist Christian.  They both hate porn, so the MUST be alot alike, right?  I'm sure it would make them both puke to be mistaken for each other.
            Exactly.

            Remember, the Tea Party supports the police and the military, anarchists don't at all.

            There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

            by AoT on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 12:23:54 AM PDT

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            •  RW mobs attack people. (0+ / 0-)

              There may be some of that here but I do not know for sure at this point. I'm going to verify with those involved.

              An Anonymous Medic was assaulted trying to protect the windows of a vehicle that may or may not have been occupied.

              Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

              by Horace Boothroyd III on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 07:19:22 AM PDT

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        •  Both groups seem to be nihilists at heart. (0+ / 0-)

          I'd put some firebaggers in that category as well.

          "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

          by Bush Bites on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 12:21:35 AM PDT

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          •  In what sense are you using the term nihilist? (0+ / 0-)

            Because I think that they're far from nihilist in any sense I know of.

            There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

            by AoT on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 12:40:16 AM PDT

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          •  Nihilist is highly specific (0+ / 0-)

            While you can find nihilists of some type on both Right and Left, only on the Right do you find large numbers whose politics are based on a literal belief in and longing for the apocalypse.

            Nothing human is alien to me.

            by WB Reeves on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 11:34:31 AM PDT

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        •  Let's see... (2+ / 0-)
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          The Teaparty supports unbridled, hands off, laissez faire capitalism, but also supports authoritative control, law and order, corporatism, religious fundamentalism.

          Anarchism supports collectivism, non-statist socialism (local direct democracy where everyone has a voice, with local groups organizing into larger federations with other local groups). Many anarchists are atheists. Anarchists tend to be anti war, and in contrast to your average Democrat, they don't support violence by the state (wars) that tend to be waged, despite pretexts, for the benefit of the wealthy ruling class. Thus, they are far more non-violent than most democrats and teapartiers.

          So, obviously these groups have little in common. In fact, the teaparty is far closer to your average centrist any day.

          "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act". -George Orwell

          by ZhenRen on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 11:59:21 AM PDT

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  •  WTF??!? (12+ / 0-)

    Jesus. "Eating cake". That Tweeter is an asshole.

    I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

    by LeftHandedMan on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 10:27:59 PM PDT

  •  Thus proving that dumbfuckery (12+ / 0-)

    is a universal political problem.

    Republicans hate you more than they love their children.

    by Troubadour on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 10:28:24 PM PDT

  •  didn't look like much of a protest... looked more (1+ / 0-)
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    street party-ish?

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 10:44:01 PM PDT

  •  Here's a reason, dunno if it's correct... (4+ / 0-)
    abc7newsBayArea ‏@abc7newsBayArea
    Occupy protesters reportedly began to march because they were angry about being denied a permit to participate in the First Friday event.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 10:45:53 PM PDT

  •  THIS is why the "fuck the police" meme is (6+ / 0-)

    so destructive.  people can't distinguish between what is in their own best interests and what supports their "outrage".

    romney is NOT in their own "best interest" - obama is at least trying to do something for the middle class and the rest of us!

    only, that "outrage" is so out of touch with reality that it is pathetic.

    kudos to the young woman who had the courage to video this and post it AND for trying to stop the madness involved.

    •  The outrage directed at Obama is because (4+ / 0-)

      of the war, the lack of meaningful action on global warming, and the creeping security state, among the folks who were at the demonstration.  You're telling people who are living through an ecocide that they just need to use more polite language.

      There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 12:30:51 AM PDT

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      •  That would mean (6+ / 0-)

        we are all living through an ecocide... but how is smashing windows going to stop global warming? I don't get the logic.

        •  I never said it was useful (0+ / 0-)

          Just that the sentiment is understandable, and that people do have reasons to be angry.

          There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

          by AoT on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 08:21:55 AM PDT

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          •  Whether expressions of anger are understandable (0+ / 0-)

            or legitimate is ultimately a political question. For example, I consider most of the anger at the banksters to be legitimate, but anger directed at the socialist Kenyan usurper to be completely bogus.

            Until it it clear who smashed the windows last night I think it's too early to assume that the sentiment behind it comes from a leftist perspective. It could be the work of a right wing provocateur, or simply an antisocial jerk who loves confrontations and has learned to blend in with the occupy crowd.

            •  As someone who lives in oakland (1+ / 0-)
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              about 20 blocks from where this happened, and as someone who was a part of Occupy Oakland and has taken part in the art murmurs numerous times I think that the likelihood of this being an anarchist is extremely high.  Although, we're never going to have a firm answer to the question.

              There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

              by AoT on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 09:08:24 AM PDT

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          •  Many people are angry about (2+ / 0-)
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            one or more of the many things that suck in the world, but manage to control that anger. I don't get why having anger is justification for destroying stuff.

        •  Smashing a window won't stop GW (2+ / 0-)
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          But endless wars and drilling in the arctic isn't helping either.

          Compare the destruction of a few windows to the things democrats support: Wars on several fronts, the drones with associated missile attacks on civilians, the oppressive security state, the kill lists, the support for the banking industry, the do-nothing approach to the environment.

          Democrats have supported wars on behalf of the state (which primarily serve the oligarchical ruling class).

          Thus democrats are far more violent than anarchists who tend to strongly oppose most wars (presuming some kid calling himself an anarchist may have done the window breaking).

          "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act". -George Orwell

          by ZhenRen on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 12:14:58 PM PDT

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          •  That's a long way to go (1+ / 0-)
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            to justify some window breaking.

            •  Not really justifying... (1+ / 0-)
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              I'd frame this quite the opposite: It's beyond justification and beyond hypocrisy to rationalize support the current Democratic party leadership and its policies while complaining of a few panes of broken glass.

              Try looking the families of droning victims, rendition, the Guantanamo detainees, the inhabitants of countries which are on the receiving end of the Democrat's imperialist actions/interventions/occupations and telling them how offended you are that someone broke a window.

              "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act". -George Orwell

              by ZhenRen on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 02:24:07 PM PDT

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              •  Nice try (1+ / 0-)
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                attempting to portray me as more concerned with broken glass than human suffering, while you nobly pursue the cause of the just. Now that's what I call justification.

                Look, I'm sure Obama is calling a Cabinet-level meeting as we speak to shut down Guantanamo and the drone program in response to some broken windows in Oakland.

                Or maybe not.

                •  Do you support the administration? (1+ / 0-)
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                  If you do, then of course you support its actions.

                  Nice try indeed.

                  The news reports are there to read.

                  If you haven't voiced your opposition to these policies, but find time to register your opinion about the manner of protest of those who do, then I submit that it is obvious where you stand.

                  "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act". -George Orwell

                  by ZhenRen on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 03:08:10 PM PDT

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    •  And, cue the anti-Occupy group. (2+ / 0-)
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      They're gonna swarm now.

      I think this vandalism is totally wrong, but now they're gonna blame everyone in Occupy for a few black bloc protesters.

      But It's not "pathetic" to be outraged that the cops are killing people with reckless abandon. It's out of touch with reality to say that everyone supports the cops.

      I can't piefight with this group 2 days in a row. I'm getting  off this website for the day.

      "I read this- Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. I read every last word of this garbage, and because of this piece of $#!^ I'm never reading again!"-Officer Barbrady

      by Broke And Unemployed on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 03:39:10 AM PDT

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  •  The protest was a "Fuck the Permits" (3+ / 0-)

    march in response to continued police actions against the sound systems that are used at various OO events, from what I've heard.  The police have impounded sound systems numerous times and the operators have been arrested for not having permits, but never charged to my knowledge.

    Nothing to do with Obama directly, but these protests tend to be more moving street party than anything else.

    I'd imagine this is somewhat backlash to the recent article in the New York Times Magazine that asserts the inevitability of gentrification in Oakland and describes the city as being some sort of atavistic radical enclave that's the last bastion of any resistance to the neo-liberal agenda.

    Or just another Friday night protest in Oakland.

    There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

    by AoT on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 11:51:08 PM PDT

    •  Also, that's the right address (2+ / 0-)

      It's about five blocks down from Art Murmur, the monthly art event around 23rd and Telegraph.

      There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 11:56:13 PM PDT

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      •  Interesting... (1+ / 0-)
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        Any evidence that the hippiecommienihiblahblah were addressing the disparity between Art events (where freedom of speech and riot is always tolerated) and political events, where... not?

        Hey, I'm an art critic...

        WOID: a journal of visual language http://theorangepress.com/woid

        by WOIDgang on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 12:26:53 AM PDT

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        •  Definitely not doing that (2+ / 0-)
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          There are regular protests on friday nights in Oakland and the "Anarchist Ghetto" is near where the Art Murmur is.  A lot of anarchists actualy played a role in making the Art Murmur grow, although I think a lot see it now as a sign of the encroaching gentrification.

          Although, if you're an art critic the I think this article on recent event in L.A. addresses exactly what you're talking about, and the protesters there were addressing the disparity between art events and political events.

          I will say that a lot of anarchists in Oakland will make the same sort of argument about political versus cultural events and the way that the city cracks down on the political much more than the cultural.  But I'm pretty certain that wasn't an explicit theme of the protest that I know of.

          For reference, I'm an artist, an anarchist, a philosopher, and I live in Oakland.  I was planning on going to this protest because it was against the police constantly confiscating the sound systems at OO events.

          There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

          by AoT on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 12:49:21 AM PDT

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    •  A "moving street party" that smashes windows? (6+ / 0-)

      Of political offices?

      Ugh.

      That's "night of broken glass" stuff.

      "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

      by Bush Bites on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 12:15:57 AM PDT

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  •  the twitter dude looks a total douche (9+ / 0-)

    just from the past couple pages of tweets. classic white libertarian wannabe anarchist type.

  •  What those idiots dont get is that there is a (5+ / 0-)

    difference between protesting peacefully and vandalizing.

    And they are the same crying babies who whine when they get arrested for what they did.

    Those arent protestors, they are troublemakers if not criminals.

    And people wonder why the ows movement has become that much unpopular.

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 05:18:32 AM PDT

    •  Based on recent federal court decisions it will be (2+ / 0-)
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      interesting to see how these acts of vandalism will affect the ability of injured protesters to get past the governmental immunity defense or bar that police officers usually enjoy. It appears the courts are looking very closely at what kind of behavior the protesters were involved in at the time the police acted improperly to determine if the police actions were unreasonable. It would be a shame if police continue to be unaccountable for their outrageous behavior because they can use the actions of people like this to show their "reactions" should be considered reasonable.

      "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

      by stellaluna on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 05:45:35 AM PDT

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      •  Which is why infiltration and provocation is (0+ / 0-)

        such a great way to destroy movements.

        We have the technology now with video cameras to get a record of who is doing these things.

        Hopefully someone else has video yet to be uploaded for us.

        Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

        by Horace Boothroyd III on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 08:39:59 AM PDT

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        •  It may not make a difference in litigation against (0+ / 0-)

          the police unless they know it is an infiltrator. But I would think there might be litigation against the infiltrator who causes the police to react that way. The best case then if you want to keep them honest is to make sure everyone is identifiable. No masks makes it much easier to figure this out and make your arguments about who is responsible later.

          "Speak the TRUTH, even if your voice shakes."

          by stellaluna on Sat Aug 04, 2012 at 05:06:04 PM PDT

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      •  Ding, ding, ding! (1+ / 0-)
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        And the black bloc that does this always maintains they are making a bold statement against the police, when in reality they may be impeding actual badly needed reform of OPD.

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