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I just saw this vid.  It was posted to YouTube back in January of 2008.  Don't discount the shock value of what you're going to watch just because this sworn testimony is four years old.

This man's explanation of what can be done to elections software is proof enough of why a "paper trail" is absolutely necessary when electronic balloting is in use.  The voter should receive a receipt and a carbon copy kept for the people running the polling places to count against the machine totals.

Watch this and listen to what this man has to say.

Here you are:

The congressman named in this is Congressman Tom Feeney of Florida.  It seems that he even had his wife in on the scam!

I can't stress enough how important it is that there be a paper trail to check against the electronic totals.  Without one, your vote may be as worthless as the paper you don't cast it on!

Celtic Merlin

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  •  Demand a paper trail. (11+ / 0-)

    This code is NOT difficult to write and there are people with plenty of money who are willing to pay for this crime to be committed.

    The only way to combat this is with hard-copy proof of your vote.

    Celtic Merlin

    Struggle with dignity against injustice. IS there anything more honorable that a person can do?

    by Celtic Merlin on Fri Aug 10, 2012 at 07:45:35 PM PDT

    •  A paper trail is NOT enough. (5+ / 0-)

      We must ALSO count the ballots AT THE PRECINCT on election night before witnesses and publish the results online before submitting to the centralized mix.

      For example, did you know that absentee voting on paper is now the worst way to vote?  The reason is that phantom voter profiles can so easily be added to the voter polls.  We cannot tell who is a legitimate voter or not because we have the secret ballot.

      I spent 10 years of my life obsessed with this problem because I was so distraught to learn how much our election process had devolved while we've grown complacent.

      Here's what I finally realized--we have two choices:

      1.  Foresake the secret ballot and let everyone vote online and let everyone see your address, name and how you voted to ensure against phantom voters added to the mix, which I do not recommend since we can then be easily persecuted for our beliefs


      2.  Vote in our local precincts (not to exceed the number of ballots we can vote in one night) before witnesses where we can verify each neighbor is indeed a real person who lives in the neighborhood.  If you are dubious of hand counts by the poll workers, then you can cross-check the results with an Optiscan on-site.  The results of the tally would be published online before transport to the central mixing site.

      Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

      by Einsteinia on Fri Aug 10, 2012 at 08:24:53 PM PDT

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      •  our small town still counts ballots by hand and it (5+ / 0-)

        is cheap and easy compared to anything computer-wise.

        •  Yes, I used to help my grandmother who was a (4+ / 0-)

          poll worker.  I am convinced that literal hands-on participation in our democracy is what caused me to become an activist for the election integrity cause.  It was not an abstraction.

          When I heard something was wrong with our election systems I did not believe it.  However, I did my own investigation and found that things had dramatically changed and everyone seemed to be bored with the nitty gritty of this behind closed doors system that had been outsourced by local election officials to partisan owned computer voting vendors.

          I am so relieved that the word is finally getting out that we need to wake up and reclaim OUR voting rights.  All the convenience of the electronic tabulation, voting by mail, voting on the internet are not worth the cost--our democracy!

          Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

          by Einsteinia on Fri Aug 10, 2012 at 09:48:48 PM PDT

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  •  Wow. (4+ / 0-)

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Fri Aug 10, 2012 at 08:13:53 PM PDT

  •  Demand more than a paper trail! (6+ / 0-)
    This code is NOT difficult to write and there are people with plenty of money who are willing to pay for this crime to be committed.
    And after it's bought and paid for, it is easily installed by anyone off the street.
    "Hotel Minibar Keys Open Diebold Voting Machines" -unless you doubt a prestigious University like Princeton...
  •  Wow...freakin' scary. (1+ / 0-)
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    Celtic Merlin
  •  as a programmer (5+ / 0-)

    I know exactly what he's saying. I never vote without a paper ballot.I don't think electronic ballots are valid without a paper trail, one cannot challenge a tabulation of votes without knowing what the value of each vote.

    -9.75, -7.49 "He that will not reason is a bigot - He that cannot reason is a fool - He that dares not reason is a slave." Sir William Drummond 1585-1649

    by zamrzla on Fri Aug 10, 2012 at 09:03:37 PM PDT

  •  I've always said there is a reasonably easy way to (4+ / 0-)

    make sure the vote is really the vote.

    1.  When you vote, your vote is recorded on a 2-copy receipt.  One copy goes to you, showing who you voted for, the second copy drops into a bin.

    2.  After the polls close a pre-defined percentage of precincts are randomly chosen for a manual count of the ballots that dropped into the bin.  If the count on the voting machine and the count of the paper ballots do not match, a full recount of all precincts shall commence.  (It is not necessary that we know the results of an election by the time the polls close!)

    3.  If the recount shows that the voting machine tallies are off by more than 1% (or some such number to allow for human error on the counting), the results of the paper ballot count shall be certified as the vote count, and a criminal investigation shall immediately be opened into the the company providing the voting machines.

    4.  If evidence is found that the manufacturer of the voting machines tried to rig the election, the penalties shall be appropriately harsh.  (Loss of citizenship and expulsion from the US?)

    Folks, trust but verify!

    •  I'm with this right down the line. (2+ / 0-)
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      ColoTim, Lujane

      A copy of my vote for me and one for the poll workers.

      I want every precinct to count the paper against the machine.  The machine results can't be released unless they match the hand count.  If there is any discrepancy, the hand count will be used as the official tally.

      If everything matches up, the electronic results are transmitted and the receipt slips are delivered to the county election HQ.

      Precinct totals are added by hand and compared with the electronic reporting.  If all goes well, the numbers are released as official.

      Anybody caught attempting to screw with an election faces a mandatory 10-year jail term.  The candidate - if they had anything to do with it - will be denied office and joins his pal for a stay at the Graybar Hotel.

      Celtic Merlin

      Struggle with dignity against injustice. IS there anything more honorable that a person can do?

      by Celtic Merlin on Fri Aug 10, 2012 at 11:05:42 PM PDT

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  •  His comments about exit polls were important too. (0+ / 0-)

    In Ohio in 2004 the exit polls showed Kerry winning, but with no paper trail, the machine votes were counted.

    Just this year the exit polls in the Wisconsin recall race for Walker were also different from the machine totals, showing a very close race; they were "adjusted" to match the final machine results.  All day people had been saying the count would go late into the night yet the race was called within half an hour of the polls closing.  Then the Walker opponents weren't allowed to hand count the ballots before they were destroyed.  

    We really do need to agitate about this before another election is lost through fraud.

  •  Voter Fraud In New Mexico (0+ / 0-)

    They are starting to dismiss voters from the roles and the voting chair won't release where they are getting their lists from. Do you have any idea where that might be? I thought it could be old DMV documents from a 3rd party, but I can't even find that.

    Any insight would be of great benifit, Celtic Merlin.

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