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Much has already been said via print columns, blogs and web ads to refute the Romney-Ryan claims that President Obama is robbing Medicare of $716 billion to fund Obamacare. As Romney's ad ominously says: '716 billion from Medicare for something that's not for you'.

The three major TV news networks don't seem to be playing ball with Romney Ryan and told Mr. and Mrs. low information voter that that simply is not true. (This of course after dutifully reporting how 'nasty' both sides of the campaign have become).

Footage of President Obama explaining his position and refuting that of Romney and Ryan's was shown on NBC. CBS and NBC both  point out that Romney's claims are misleading since Paul Ryan included the very same 'cuts' in his Medicare reform plan. They explained that growth in the program is slowed, but no cuts in benefits are made.

Kristin Welker, on NBC Nightly News, reported that in Dubuque on Wednesday, the President "used strong language to refute Republican claims about Medicare." President Obama was shown saying, "they are being pretty dishonest about my plan. They are throwing everything against the wall to see if it sticks." Welker added that "according to the Congressional Budget Office, the Obama's reforms and the Medicare plan offered by...Paul Ryan plan both slow Medicare growth by $700 billion, but do not cut program benefits."

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CBS summed up the bottom line in a simple and easy to understand way.

Bob Schieffer, on the CBS Evening News, said that since Ryan "was added to the ticket, more and more attention has shifted to Medicare, and every time Governor Romney mentions it he says the President robbed the program of $716 million." Schieffer added, "Where does he get that figure?" CBS's Anthony Mason went on to report that "the reality is it's not the patients who would lose money; it's providers," and, "in fact...Ryan's proposed budget contains these same reductions." According to Mason, the CBO "concluded the cuts, which do not come out of the Medicare trust fund, actually make Medicare more efficient and extend the life of the program."

ABC News distilled the debate down to the voucher Ryan would provide, and pointed out the seniors would need to shop for their own healthcare.

Dianne Sawyer, on ABC World News, said "driving much of the debate right now" is "Ryan's budget, with deep cuts he argues are needed, and big changes to Medicare, eventually adding like a voucher-like system for seniors to shop for their own healthcare."
Mitt Romney put the focus on Medicare with his choice of Paul Ryan as his running mate. While these draconian measures would have been planned by the GOP regardless of who was on the ticket, the MSM is now forced to discuss Ryan's proposals, and Americans are getting a taste of what's in them.
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  •  This is a big deal... (9+ / 0-)

    In a comment last night I surmised this could be one of the possible reasons why the Obama campaign wasn't put out ads - they were creating a vacuum by not answering Romney's claims to force the MSM to do actual journalistic investigation and report on their findings.  If Obama camp put up their own medicare ad than it would have allowed the MSM to fall back into their lazy go-to reporting of "Romney says this, Obama says this - you decide".  

    Also the Obama Campaign likes to use news snippets in their refute/counter-attack ads, so look to see these reports in an eventual ad near you.  

    The Obama Camp seems to be gambling that the "Obama cut $700B" claim is such a ridiculous lie that the MSM couldn't simply give it a pass as there is literally no factual basis for such a claim.  

    We'll see if the lie is half way around the world before this truth starts getting out of bed.  

    An OFA Campaign Web Ad is the new Reid "sternly worded letter".

    by Jacoby Jonze on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 06:28:20 AM PDT

    •  yes, this was intended as reassurance for (1+ / 0-)
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      the faint of heart ;-)

      "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

      by eXtina on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 06:39:21 AM PDT

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      •  It still needs an ad campaign out pronto (4+ / 0-)

        Ryan has had almost a full week now unchallenged except for a couple web ads.  It's 10 days until the RNC Convention - the Obama Campaign can't let the Romney Campaign flood the airwaves for the next ten days with their lies, then go into their convention spouting the lies and then hope to refuse the three weeks of unending lies with the DNC convention - because Romney Camp will get $150M+ in GE money out of the lockbox come the RNC convention and will have a mere two months to spend it all - meaning epic carpet bombing of attack ads.  

        An OFA Campaign Web Ad is the new Reid "sternly worded letter".

        by Jacoby Jonze on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 06:45:30 AM PDT

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      •  Rebutting this claim is vital.Unsure that referred (1+ / 0-)
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        one in diary accomplishes that. The best I can get out of the rebuttal is: cuts are to service providers and Ryan does it too? Where does that rebutt the claim? Maybe a better approach would be to label it as reasigning/ shifting funding rather than cutting. Right now this lie is snowballing and the proposed rerouting is not working.

        "If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill

        by Kvetchnrelease on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 06:52:49 AM PDT

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        •  It slows the growth in spending (0+ / 0-)

          i think that's pretty clear

          "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

          by eXtina on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 06:54:19 AM PDT

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        •  I think the rebuttal should be: (1+ / 0-)
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          "They're lying. [vague MSM citation]. The non-partisan CBO says the Obama plan "strengthens Medicare". Can you trust anything that comes from this tax-evading, off-shore account owning, life-destroying, Wall Street profiteer?"

          Getting into details is for people who read, and there are newspapers for that.

        •  It is true that the Rs are repeating the lie in (2+ / 0-)
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          eXtina, Kvetchnrelease

          lockstep. It is true that the MSM calling out the lies is not enough. But that does not mean that we have to make a campaign ad out of it in order to get our message across. Seniors were immunized the first time Ryan proposed to destroy Medicare. The antibodies are primed and waiting. They may not know Ryan by name, but they know to kill the Medicare-killer, and they have been activated.

          That said, why not a campaign ad as a booster shot? But there is no rush.

          And don't worry about the Convention. Can you say, target of opportunity? I fully expect somebody, maybe several somebodies, to shoot themselves in the feet of every Republican candidate out there. Several are already running away from the Ryan budget as fast as possible, making our case for us. Then there is Allen West, who should be pointed at and laughed at as often as possible, as in this Diary and the ad it features.

          Allen West finds something to get outraged about

          Tax cuts
          for the rich
          tax hikes
          for middle class
          Source: Palm Beach Post, 11/24/11
          Center on Budget Policy and Priorities, 11/18/11
          Even Fox News gets it.

          Obama campaign opposing Ryan budget at state level

          President Barack Obama's campaign is launching state-specific efforts to target elements of Paul Ryan's austere budget proposals, expanding beyond its opposition to the Republican vice presidential candidate's Medicare overhaul.

          The Democratic campaign is mobilizing its vast network of staffers and volunteers in key states to highlight Ryan's proposals to cut funding for veterans care, clean energy and education — and link presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney directly to them.

          Hey, Mitt! Thanks for ObamneyCare.

          by Mokurai on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 02:48:28 PM PDT

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        •  Obama cut waste, fraud, and abuse (1+ / 0-)
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          in Medicare Advantage, which was a giveaway to insurance companies. Oh, and Ryan wants to cut that too, but lie about it.

          Hey, Mitt! Thanks for ObamneyCare.

          by Mokurai on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 02:52:55 PM PDT

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    •  I wish this were more widespread..... (1+ / 0-)
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      as I noted elsewhere this morning, an AP story about this issue in the local paper today went deep into the second page jump before there was any mention that Romney's claims might just be in error and even then it wasn't real specific.

      Nowhere was there any solid statement that the claim (that Obama "stole $716 billion from the money seniors contributed to Medicare to pay for Obamacare) was utter nonsense, which it is.

      And hang in there because it seems clear that Rove and/or his minions are lining up the s...t cannon.  Now we have "a group of former SEALs and intelligence agents" claiming that Obama recklessly revealed important secrets because he was eager to crow about his success in capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden.

      The question now is whether this one will die quickly or start to generate steam while the media fails to debunk it.  It is not the first time the claim has been made, but now it seems they have assembled a "team" of accusers they think will provide the "gravitas" to make it fly.

      It is a LONG way to election day.  Buy some very tall boots cuz you are gonna need them.

      Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

      by dweb8231 on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 08:00:52 AM PDT

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      •  the only thing we can do is bring it out and (1+ / 0-)
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        to the top, and not get diverted with outrage and nonsense

        unfortunately this is getting buried in favor of poutrage

        I think the attempt to swiftboat obama will die because they tried it before, and it's pretty obvious our security has not been impacted

        "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

        by eXtina on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 08:11:51 AM PDT

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