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This radio ad was posted to YouTube late last year, but I just became aware of it and think it is obviously still relevant to the political climate in this country and the discussion of guns. It is a radio advertisement for the gun class required to obtain a conceal carry handgun license (also known as a valid voting ID) in Texas:

This place is located on US Hwy 87 along the Llano River between Fredericksburg and Mason in Mason County, Texas in the Texas Hill Country. Just so you know, this county had 2,121 people that voted for President in 2008 and just under 26% of them voted for Obama.

In case you can't play the ad, the speaker ends the ad by saying that "if you are a socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner-in-chief, please do not take this class. You have already proven that you cannot make a knowledgable and prudent decision as required under the law. Also, if you are a non-Christian Arab or Moslem (that's how he pronounced it), I will not teach you the class. Once again with no shame, I am Crockett Keller."

It attracted the attention of the local Austin ABC affiliate, KVUE, who aired this report on the ad:

I don't know whether his license/certification to teach the conceal carry class has been suspended or revoked. I suppose to get to that point, some "socialist liberal," Obama voter, non-Christian Arab or Muslim must try to take the class from him and then complain to the Department of Public Safety if he refuses to provide instruction in violation of both state law and obviously the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)
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    lgmcp, stevej, Mr K, avsp, historys mysteries

    "Lesbian and gay people are a permanent part of the American workforce, who currently have no protection from the arbitrary abuse of their rights on the job." --Coretta Scott King

    by craigkg on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 10:30:46 AM PDT

  •  Refusing Muslims uh? (4+ / 0-)

    Hopes one Muslim tries to enroll he denies and them the Muslim gets rich with the following lawsuit and this moron loses his business and home

  •  Fine by me if he wants to limit his income. (1+ / 0-)
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    'The market' isn't friendly to those who seek to avoid customers.

    •  Would you say the CRA of 1964 should exist? (3+ / 0-)

      After all, if a motel or restaurant wants to limit their income by not serving blacks, would that be OK?

      "Lesbian and gay people are a permanent part of the American workforce, who currently have no protection from the arbitrary abuse of their rights on the job." --Coretta Scott King

      by craigkg on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 10:58:17 AM PDT

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      •  He wasn't saying that , (0+ / 0-)

        he was saying that this guy shooting himself in the foot was fine by him .

        "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

        by indycam on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 11:14:52 AM PDT

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        •  However, as soon as we say (1+ / 0-)
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          that business owners are free to forgo selected customers and it's their loss, we also thereby are saying that they are free to discriminate against whomever for whatever.  

          Various federal and state laws address discrimination in "public accomodations".    Depending on the business and on what state you're in, and on what grounds you are discriminating, it may be perfectly legal.   I don't happen to know the specifics in Texas but I could make an educated guess.  

          The case of the wedding photographer in Albuquerque who lost a court case for refusing a lesbian couple, was in my view somewhat premature.  The principle of upholding non-discrimination is an admirable one, but I'm not sure that enforcing it against a mom-and-pop small business, especially in a state without a marriage-rights legal basis, was really a good tactic at just that point in time.

          "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

          by lgmcp on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 11:30:57 AM PDT

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          •  Saying that its ok for some one to hurt their own (0+ / 0-)

            business is not what you are making it out to be .

            However, as soon as we say that business owners are free to forgo selected customers
            Is that in fact what he said ?

            "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

            by indycam on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 11:37:12 AM PDT

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            •  There's lots of way to hurt your business (1+ / 0-)
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              but putting a sign on your door, or an ad in the media, that announces "I will not serve Group X"  is pretty clear-cut.  It drives away the customers against whom it explicitly discriminates, and probably some others who are not a member of Group X but still don't like it.  

              Okay, or not okay?  Or, it depends -- and if so, on what?

              "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

              by lgmcp on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 11:51:53 AM PDT

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    •  At the risk of nitpicking (5+ / 0-)

      there are marketing strategies that involve alienating one demographic to increase appeal to another. In the UK there was a big fuss when Levis made it clear that didn't want their clothing sold in what was considered a slightly downmarket big box supermarket. They feared that losing exclusivity would damage the brand.

      A similar case can be made here - this bigot is pissing off a whole demographic of whom very few would have been customers of his antway. His reward? - massive support and added loyalty from the RWNJ gun fraternity - many of whom will now in all likelyhood travel many miles to use his services.

      •  Yes, marketing-wise (4+ / 0-)
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        this won't be a loser for him, in Mason County.  And if he was protested, picketed, or even successfully sued, the effect would be even more dramatic.  

        It's pretty there, though.  The rivers run clear over limestone beds.  

        "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

        by lgmcp on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 12:01:16 PM PDT

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    •  Given where he is, he's probably not limiting (1+ / 0-)
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      his income by much.

  •  Although I don't care for guns, stories like this (7+ / 0-)

    make me think we need a lot more well-armed liberals.

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 10:57:23 AM PDT

  •  Must be another of those conservative uniters... (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Revoked for what? (0+ / 0-)

    I happen to be an instructor in a pretty deeply red state.  I'd hate to think my certification and license could be revoked because I expressed a political opinion.

    •  Revoked for discrimination (0+ / 0-)

      He can express his opinion all he wants, but if he's discriminating against those of Arab descent or those of the Muslim faith, that is illegal.

      "Lesbian and gay people are a permanent part of the American workforce, who currently have no protection from the arbitrary abuse of their rights on the job." --Coretta Scott King

      by craigkg on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 05:25:00 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, if he's discriminating against Arabs. (0+ / 0-)

        And provided the class amounts to a [m]ak[ing] and enforc[ing of] contracts" (see Runyon, and considering the likely cost of such a class, I don't think it qualifies).  

        However, there is no federal law attaching liability to private schools for discriminating on the basis of religion.  And to my knowledge, neither Texas nor my home state have filled in the gap.  Good thing to.  A while back we had a bunch of Christian Identity people come through.  The rangemaster refused to let them use the facility, and that was that.  I'd hate to think I couldn't turn that kind of garbage out of my own establishment.

        •  He's not a school (0+ / 0-)

          He doesn't meet the federal definition of a school. He's providing a service and on behalf of the State at that. And such services are barred from discriminating on the basis of race, ethnicity, religion and national origin. But if he were to qualify as a "school," his gun class is located on the premises of his general store, which means Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 most assuredly applies.

          As for Texas law on the matter, while Texas is a "shall issue" state with respect to the CHL, when it comes to who can be a qualified handgun instructor, the law is "may issue" and DPS has latitude to revoke, suspend or deny handgun instructor qualification so long as the decision is not capricious or arbitrary, hence the statement in the newscast about the need for a formal written complaint to DPS.

          "Lesbian and gay people are a permanent part of the American workforce, who currently have no protection from the arbitrary abuse of their rights on the job." --Coretta Scott King

          by craigkg on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 07:50:45 PM PDT

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          •  Didn't say he was a school. (0+ / 0-)

            42 USC 1981 doesn't apply only to schools, and that's besides the point.  The question is whether his offering of a CCL class qualifies as making and enforcing a contract. If he's providing a service on behalf of the State, where is his remuneration?  And public accommodation has a specific meaning for Title 2 and it doesn't look like it nets general stores.

            Not sure where you got the idea that Texas is a "may issue" state where it concerns instructor quals and certs.  Texas law lays out disqualifying criteria for CCL and certification in 411.172, requires the state offering training and certification to eligible persons under 411.191, and compels  the state to adhere to 411.180 and 411.191 in denying or revoking licenses to concealed carriers and instructors--in other words, a currently certified instructor gets a two months heads up to demand review by the justice court, at which point the clock resets until a decision is rendered.

            •  Read 411.190 again (0+ / 0-)

              The "director may certify as a qualified handgun instructor..." The regulations regarding the instructors are "may," not shall. Yes, the actual CHL is covered under the "shall issue" language, but the DPS has discretion with respect to the instructors. Yes, if the state wants to revoke an instructor's certification, they have to provide ample notice, and follow the procedures laid out in 180, but DPS's decision to revoke the instructor's certification need only meet the standard of not being arbitrary or capricious. In statutory interpretation, the assumption is that the language is chosen carefully. Whereas most of the code uses the "shall" language with respect to the CHL, the use of "may" when it comes to instructor's certification is evidence that the Legislature chose to give DPS latitude in issuance of instructor certification.

              As for the applicability of Title II of the CRA, most Texas country general stores do sell food for consumption on the premises (think mini ice cream parlor, or BBQ, or tacos, etc.). Granted, his might not. I don't intend to drive the two and a half hours out there to check, but the Street View of Google Maps shows the store's sign with "Fine Foods  Groceries  Antiques." (incidentally, other signs also shows he sells tackle, old guns and real estate along with renting canoes, kayaks and RV space.)

              "Lesbian and gay people are a permanent part of the American workforce, who currently have no protection from the arbitrary abuse of their rights on the job." --Coretta Scott King

              by craigkg on Fri Aug 17, 2012 at 06:46:09 PM PDT

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              •  Point taken. (0+ / 0-)

                Didn't know about the legal distinction between "may" and "shall."  Something to keep in mind at my next chapter meeting.

                I believe the Title 2 standard requires the establishment to be "principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises."  And even if you could, how do you establish that the CCL class itself  "holds itself out as serving patrons of such covered establishment."  What if we were talking about a bible study as opposed to firearms instruction?

                That said, I doubt Texas DPS would take action to revoke this man's certification.  If it did, I'd imagine the state legislature would take whatever steps are necessary to severely constrain DPS's discretion.

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