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Right on the heels of the Daily Kos/SEIU poll showing majority support for paid sick leave nationally, a Quinnipiac poll finds overwhelmingly massive support for paid sick leave in New York City.

Quinnipiac University. 8/8-12. New York City voters. MoE ±2.7%

Q: Would you support or oppose a law requiring New York City businesses to provide up to 9 paid sick days for employees?

Support: 73
Oppose: 26

Not only do New Yorkers support paid sick leave like whoa, a majority of them reject one of the main arguments opponents use to justify the status quo:
Q: Do you think such a law would result in businesses hiring fewer people or not?

Yes: 37
No: 54

Just as an overwhelming majority of New York City voters support paid sick leave, a veto-proof majority of the City Council likewise supports the law. But Speaker Christine Quinn refuses to bring the bill up for a vote, blocking it despite such high levels of support.

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  •  I'm mixed on this (1+ / 0-)
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    I support unlimited paid sick time, if a person is sick.

    However, I work with a few people, who have 4 weeks of vacation, another week of holidays and then another 10 sick days (which aren't supposed to be used unless they are sick).

    As much as I support worker benefits, I get fucked over all summer long.  I don't get to use my vacation, because my coworkers are selfish assholes, who abuse this to no end.

    •  It sounds like you work for a great (2+ / 0-)
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      Dr Teeth, elwior

      business - the employees are already receiving one more sick day than the amount in the poll, on top of other benefits. Perhaps it's time for a discussion with the others so timing can be more equitable (or put in your vacation request about a year in advance).

      "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." H.L. Mencken, 1925

      by cv lurking gf on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 12:10:28 PM PDT

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      •  It is a trust thing, and it can be broken (1+ / 0-)
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        Perhaps it's time for a discussion with the others so timing can be more equitable
        The owner of the business tries to be pretty good.  She has her bad days, but overall she is a decent boss.

        Still, this summer I've heard her complaining about staff using their sick time on the edges of scheduled vacation.  I wouldn't be surprised, if she doesn't start demanding a medical release.

        She is correct to be angry, as we aren't meeting customer deadlines.  When this happens, customers scale back their orders in the future, because they lose confidence on our ability to fill them.

        Like with everything, there has to be a balance in a work environment.  Abusing well intended ideas is just as bad as employers not providing them.

        We actually have a candidate we'd like to hire, but our HR staff has too many people out to process his paperwork.

        •  Can you bank sick days? Banking sick days (up to a (1+ / 0-)
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          Dr Teeth

          reasonable limit) over a few years helps reign in this tendency.

          As far as what workers get at your job, sounds like the good ol days, and 4 week vac and 10 holiday used to be the norm, not any more.

          Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree. -Martin Luther

          by the fan man on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 02:52:55 PM PDT

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    •  Dr T - suggest a move to PTO (2+ / 0-)
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      Dr Teeth, the fan man

      Many employers are now aggregating vacation and sick time into a universal number of days that are Paid Time Off (PTO).  They often cap the number of days that can be carried over to the following year, encouraging people to use their PTO days. The thing I like about PTO is that it rewards people who don't take sick days, but more importantly ends the need to "prove you were sick".

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Thu Aug 16, 2012 at 12:28:54 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah, if it is accumulated (1+ / 0-)
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        The problem I saw with that at the last place I worked was they gave bulk in January.  People would blow half of their PTO by March.

        Then when something unexpected actually did come out, they'd have to decide between their vacation and their sickness.

        PTO that accumulates based on hours worked works pretty well, but sometimes people need to be able to borrow against future hours for it to work.

        Ideally people wouldn't try to game the system, and then it wouldn't be such a big deal.

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