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A fan was shot in the face outside the University of Phoenix Stadium before the preseason game between the Arizona Cardinals and the Oakland Raiders.

A 30-year-old man was shot in the face during an altercation in a parking lot near University of Phoenix Stadium Friday night while the Arizona Cardinals took on the Oakland Raiders.

Glendale police say the incident occurred around 9:30 in the 'purple' parking lot near the Hampton Inn.

The shooter claimed it was just an accident.  Stuff happens, you know.

Still, I guess we can only blame Arizona's highly restrictive gun laws -- oh wait, they have some of the most lax regulation of firearms in the country. My bad.

Still, clearly the solution to this problem is more people with more guns at sporting events, bars, restaurants, movie theaters, shopping malls, churches, and other places large crowds of liquored up people congregate (Yeah I've seen drunks in church--had a former Pastor who was an alcoholic and always took a nip or two of liquid courage before his sermons).  If the man who was shot at the Cardinals-Raiders game, or his friends, had been carrying this all might have been prevented. Not that I know he and his friends weren't carrying mind you, but since no one returned fire one must assume they are all panty waists and too cowardly to exercise their second amendment rights by bringing their guns to an American football game.

In fact, maybe the NFL could have a gun promotion day where all ticket buying fans would be given a free handgun and a box of ammo as they enter the stadium.  I'd be willing to bet Smith and Wesson, Colt, GLOCK  and Beretta would be only too happy to co-sponsor such an event.  Yeah, that's the ticket.  

After all, we can't continue to have these shooting incidents at football games.  As I see it, some drunk loudmouth at a tailgate party or carrying a concealed .38 will think twice before shooting me or my rowdy friends in the face if he sees my trusty .357 Sig in its holster by my side.  And he sure as hell won't spill his damn beer on me in the stands.  Don't you agree?

Vote in my Poll after that noodlely thingy.

Originally posted to Steven D on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 10:29 AM PDT.

Also republished by Baja Arizona Kossacks.


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Comment Preferences

  •  Personally (10+ / 0-)

    Obama was probably responsible.  I mean, if a 3rd rate heavy Metal rock band singer says so it must be true.

    "If you tell the truth, you'll eventually be found out." Mark Twain

    by Steven D on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 10:37:20 AM PDT

  •  Well, not a free gun for everyone in attendance. (14+ / 0-)

    It should be a beer promotion, like, show 5 empties, then you get the gun.

    The GOP ... Government of the 1%, by the 1%, for the 1%

    by Azazello on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 10:39:38 AM PDT

  •  The shooter was a responsible gun owner. (6+ / 0-)

    The shooter, like all gun owners, was a very responsible, safety-conscious, law-abding citizen who was well-trained and highly experienced in the use of his weapons.  

    Up until the moment they shot up a school, or a mall, or a sporting event.  Then they become crazy criminals who should never have been allowed to be near guns.  And then, it is the fault of the government for not enforcing the existing laws.

    With every gun-owner I meet, I have the same thought: a what point will this responsible, safety conscious law-abiding citizen become a crazed criminal?  

    You never know.

    Gun owners will tell us they should not be punished for the bad behavior of others.  I don't own a gun, but I am not being punished.  Moreoever, every single person who shoots another shares a characteristic that I and other non gun-owners don't have: they were all once "responsible gun-owners".

    "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

    by Hugh Jim Bissell on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 11:11:30 AM PDT

  •  I'm a Broncos fan so I (1+ / 0-)
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    Steven D

    had to pick the 2nd one.

    liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

    by RockyMtnLib on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 11:15:52 AM PDT

  •  hells yeah (1+ / 0-)
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    Once outside a vikings packers game An off duty cop who was carrying fired his gun at some packers fans.  Can't cheer too loudly for your team you know.

    ‎"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." --Frederick Douglass

    by Nada Lemming on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 11:32:25 AM PDT

    •  I may be overstating (1+ / 0-)
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      I know he pointed his gun, but don't remember if he fired it.  He WAS drunk, so he had that going for him, which is nice.

      ‎"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." --Frederick Douglass

      by Nada Lemming on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 11:34:33 AM PDT

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  •  Only if the Raiders were playing (2+ / 0-)
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    In Oakland

    Happy just to be alive

    by exlrrp on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 11:39:51 AM PDT

  •  An incident I can't forget (5+ / 0-)

    is this, in Houston last year.  The guy had apparently forgotten it was in his coat.  Who the heck forgets about where their firearms are?  

    Houston seems to have a lot of it--according to a recent report I heard on the radio, 22 firearms were confiscated at security checkpoints at IAH so far this year (18 were loaded, BTW).  Only ATL, DFW & PHX had more. How does anyone in this day and age forget that firearms are banned on aircraft, or fail to see the warnings about what items are not allowed once they are at the airport?

    •  Here's another one: (3+ / 0-)
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      matx, PSzymeczek, Loozerio
      Man shoots himself in butt by accident

      SPARKS - Authorities in Sparks are considering criminal charges against a 56-year-old man who accidentally shot himself in the buttocks inside a movie theater.

      Police said the man told them his gun hit the floor beneath his seat and discharged at the Century 14 cinema about 8:40 p.m. Tuesday. No one else was hurt.

      Sgt. Pat Dyer said the unidentified man immediately got up, apologized to those around him and left the theater for the hospital. He said about 30 patrons were watching "The Bourne Legacy" at the time but only five reported hearing the shot and no one panicked.

      The man had a permit to carry a concealed weapon but Sparks City Attorney Chet Adams said he could be charged with illegal discharge of a firearm in a public place.

           Arizona Daily Star

      The GOP ... Government of the 1%, by the 1%, for the 1%

      by Azazello on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 09:28:20 AM PDT

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  •  A gunfight in a crowded... (5+ / 0-)

    ....parking lot full of tailgaters - what could possibly go wrong?

    9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

    by varro on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 12:05:48 PM PDT

  •  I think I understand why you didn't discuss.... (5+ / 0-)

    the actual facys of the incident (almost none were presented in the article), but it seems like gross intellectual laziness, or perhaps sheer intentional dishonest misrepresentation that you couldn't at least make some reality-based hypotheses and discuss them.

    Nope, instead you hauled out some over-boiled hyperbole and Strawmen and had some fun with them.  Good luck with that tactic, it seems to be attracting serious people in droves...  or not...

    •  Facts (3+ / 0-)
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      Man Oh Man, Loozerio, PSzymeczek

      Man was shot.

      Man went to hospital.

      Police stated to reporters there was an argument that broke out between fans prior to the shooting.

      Shooter claimed it was an accident and did not leave the scene.

      Charges are potentially pending against both the shooter and the person shot (i.e., the investigation isn't complete though I;m a little surprised the shooter wasn't at least charged with unlawful discharge of a firearm).

      Am I missing anything?

      Having been to Buffalo Bills pro football games where fans for other teams are present I've seen plenty of pregame and post game drinking, arguments etc.  I've seen fights break out in the stands during games, and I've even seen people (all fans of the same team btw) nearly come to blows in the parking lot before and after games.  Never witnessed an incident where someone shot anyone however.  Yet within the last two years we have had two such incidents, one where people died.  Perhaps these things happened in the past, but I don't recall hearing of them, and I've been a pro football fan for over 45 years.

      So, what is your point?  My point is pretty simple.  I;m disturbed about incidents like this one and the one in San Francisco last year, the Gabby Giffords' shooting at a strip Mall, The Aurora massacre, the assassination of Dr. Tiller, the shootings at the Sikh temple, the Trayvon Martin shooting, and even the shooting of a security guard at The Family Council office recently, not to mention the hundreds of other shootings that go unnoticed by the national media daily.

      Yet, the constant drumbeat I hear from the NRA and those who support its positions is that more guns and les gun regulation are the solutions to these incidents, not less.  It sounds very much like the Republican solution to the deficit: cut taxes on the rich.  It doesn't compute, as they say.

      So, you tell me, how would more guns help the situation?  How would laxer enforcement of existing gun laws or the elimination of those laws help the situation?  I'd like to know, because so far I haven't seen a good argument for decreasing what few gun laws and regulations exist, making more guns available to the public and allowing people to carry guns and justify their use of them in more and more public places.  

      We take away the licenses of people caught drinking and driving even of they haven't been in an accident or cause anyone any harm.  Yet no one ever suggests we should take away someone's guns from people who are drunk while operating or carrying a firearm.  And I know plenty of hunters who drink and shoot.  Yet the NRA would make taking your gun into places where the consumption of alcohol is high legal.  Tell me, do you think that is a responsible thing to do?

      "If you tell the truth, you'll eventually be found out." Mark Twain

      by Steven D on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 01:09:04 PM PDT

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  •  Better Idea (2+ / 0-)
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    Loozerio, Azazello

    A free 16 oz beer for anyone bringing a loaded gun to the game.

    This aggression will not stand, man.

    by kaleidescope on Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 01:57:05 PM PDT

  •  Montana or Montana State? (4+ / 0-)

    Hunting is allowed pretty close to Montana or Montana State (I forget which)

    You can hear rifle fire during games depending on when hunting season starts.

    Shouldn't there be hundreds of deaths at Navy, Army and Air Force games?  Pretty much everyone in the stadium knows how to use guns and there are lots of them nearby.

  •  Why the fuck would anyone pack a gun (0+ / 0-)

    at a football game? To protect oneself from other drunken fucks who are also packing? What kind of stupid chickenshit stuff is this?

  •  Nobody every complains about Vermont. (0+ / 0-)

    Why is that?

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