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At Grist, Daniel Souweine wonders why most weathercasters don't talk about climate change:
This week in Boston, Mass., the nation’s broadcast meteorologists will meet in their yearly conference sponsored by the American Meteorological Society (AMS). You probably don’t have it marked on your calendar, but from the point of view of the planet, it’s the most important meeting of weather reporters in history. Because the burning question in Beantown is whether weathercasters will embrace their responsibility to communicate how climate change is creating a new normal of dangerous, extreme weather.
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Given the climate change-fueled storms, heat waves, droughts, and wildfires that have dominated the past year, global warming will undoubtedly be a “hot” topic at this year’s conference. But, amazingly, many broadcast meteorologists remain lukewarm to the subject: The majority of weathercasters, including many with AMS certification, don’t believe that humans are causing climate change, let alone that it’s dramatically shifting our weather patterns. These meteorologists are missing the opportunity to be journalistic heroes who can inform the nation about our increasingly poisoned weather.

For those weathercasters who want education on the subject, the conference will have plenty to provide, with panels like “Applying Climate Change to Google Earth,” “Climate Change and Ocean Stories,” and “Hot Topics for the Station Scientist.” But the source of the climate communication deficit is mostly not educational, it’s about politics. The ideological bent of some forecasters, and the pressures to avoid “controversial” subjects that might affect ratings, are leading some meteorologists to ignore science when airtime arrives. That’s why the staff of Forecast the Facts will be attending the conference, carrying a message from thousands of our members: that reporting on global warming is a professional and moral responsibility. [...]

Most Americans want their meteorologists to report on climate change. According to a March 2012 Yale/George Mason survey, two out of three Americans believe that global warming is changing our weather and want to learn more. The survey also found that 58 percent of Americans [PDF] “would be interested in learning what my favorite TV weathercaster has to say about global warming.” [...]

Thankfully, some meteorologists have already heeded these calls. WLTX Chief Meteorologist Jim Gandy of Columbia, S.C., does a weekly segment called Climate Matters, which explores how global warming is affecting the planet and his own community. KMGH-TV Chief Meteorologist Mike Nelson of Denver and WBOC-TV Chief Meteorologist Dan Satterfield of Salisbury, Md., run popular blogs that contribute both breaking weather alerts and informative explanations of how humans are changing the weather. [...]

But too many meteorologists still fall far short of this ideal. If this past year has taught us anything, it’s that when meteorologists refuse to accurately report on climate change, they quite literally put their viewers at risk.

If you haven't already noticed this week's blogathon coverage of global warming issues in the diaries, check them out at Climate Change SOS.


Blast from the Past. At Daily Kos on this date in 2011:

One of the most solid Democratic Party voting blocs we have today is composed of African-American women. That fact is not an accident and is deeply rooted in history—a history of organizing and struggle that illustrates the intersections and conflicts within the socio-political categories of race and gender.

Just as the abolition movement spawned a struggle for women's suffrage, and the civil rights movement was the impetus for both second wave feminism and LGBT rights, the historical role of black women in the context of the suffrage movement is a key to understanding the founding of black women's clubs, sororities and political organizations. That history also explains the roots of the racial contradictions of second and third wave feminism and the development of black feminism.

History repeats itself. The southern strategy the late-20th century Republican Party instituted by the forces arrayed against integration and desegregation was not the first wielding of the tool of racism to retard forces on the left. That same southern strategy was first used in the battle for women's suffrage.  


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Romney currently has 0 percent of the black vote. Which means that I've tied him. And I'm not running for president.
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  •  508,221 registered users on dKos now. (30+ / 0-)

    Here are the 10 newest registered users on dKos.  Hope to see their comments and diaries here soon!  (If they're not all spammers.)

    marwancampos615
    felipeturan1026
    maximohendri513
    lucienlauese616
    gardnermcdow86
    kelyanschmit921
    bawadimradi733
    elderdixon25
    stacer66
    zolliehansso12


    And since our society is obsessed with numbers that end in a lot of zeros as milestones, here's a special shoutout to users:
    #506,700: Buntingn78
    #506,800: cornelisrand924
    #506,900: Louannd11
    #507,000: earlecaldwel512 (spammer)
    #507,100: aukegoodman924 (spammer)
    #507,200: malonechrist411 (spammer)
    #507,300: bodyempirea035a2
    #507,400: laurenceatki411
    #507,500: SvenOle
    #507,600: baileygraves24
    #507,700: ashleypetter922
    #507,800: orquidiaquinonez
    #507,900: bradyabernath
    #508,000: markwallace49 (spammer)
    #508,100: steinthybo614
    #508,200: marchionnekr49

    We've added 1,538 more users in just the last 24 hours.  This is a continuation going back to May where we've been absolutely flooded with new users.  I'm pretty sure almost all of these new users are spammers or bots.  Notice how they all have a number at the end.  After a slight dip over the weekend, it's back up to well over 1,000 in a 24-hour period.  What are they planning?


    And for your Diary Rescue music pleasure, here's Howie Day's "Collide".

  •  Everyone should watch... (17+ / 0-)

    the Nat Geo show Seconds from Disaster, which carefully details major disasters in recent world history, and the chain of events that went horribly wrong that led to disaster.  With manmade things, there's almost always some regulation that a corporation wanted to skip to reduce costs, and lack of oversight from that evil government the Republicans and libertarians always want to cut back on.

    Well, folks, this is what happens without regulations, when you let private industry dictate the rules.  Here's the entire episode about the 1986 Chernobyl disaster.

    Many of the episodes are available in full on YouTube.  Watch them while thinking about what could have been done to prevent those disasters from happening, and in almost every case, it's government that could've mandated some extra check or regulation to stop the disaster.  And usually, they DID end up stepping in, but only after the disaster happened and hundreds of people died.

    And despite the fact that NatGeo is ultimately owned by News Corp., like I said the other day, I'm still going to promote this show, simply because it's a damn good show that explicitly shows the need for strong government oversight.  Don't want to watch it on their channel?  At least watch the episodes that have been uploaded to YouTube.  And share them with your conservative anti-government friends, and ask them if they feel comfortable about leaving their safety in the hands of a private corporation without ANY government oversight.

  •  The Ron Paul folks... (11+ / 0-)

    are going nuts over this story about a Marine vet who's been taken in for a psych evaluation after making threats on Facebook, which they say is just a huge invasion of free speech and proof that we're now in a totalitarian dictatorship.

    A former Marine involuntarily detained for psychiatric evaluation for posting strident anti-government messages on Facebook has received an outpouring of support from people who say authorities are trampling on his First Amendment rights.

    Brandon J. Raub, 26, has been in custody since FBI and Secret Service agents and Chesterfield County police questioned him Thursday evening about what they considered ominous posts talking of a coming revolution. In one message earlier this month, Raub wrote: “Sharpen my axe; I’m here to sever heads.”

    Police — acting under a state law that allows emergency, temporary psychiatric commitments upon the recommendation of a mental health professional — took Raub to the John Randolph Medical Center in Hopewell. He was not charged with any crime.

    Do they have a point, or is this a simple case of a veteran who happens to also be a 9/11 truther who started threatening to "sever" people's heads online?  Warning: the comments section in that CBS article are filled with libertarian birthers, FYI.
    •  The idiot who shot up the sikh temple was (17+ / 0-)

      ex-military.

      Tell the Paulites to STFU and go play with their guns or something.

      Chicago--Proud Home of the 1907-08 World Series Champion Chicago Cubs

      by Jeff Y on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:42:25 PM PDT

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      •  I wouldn't add that last part. (1+ / 0-)
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        Jeff Y

        Sadly, too many gun fetishists are starting to use their guns for what they were designed for.  Maybe it just feels crazy, confirmation bias does exist, but have we ever had this many mass shootings in a year?  At all?  Lately?

        "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

        by auron renouille on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:38:46 PM PDT

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    •  I don't understand your fixation with the (7+ / 0-)

      Paul people, BK. Do you really think sensibility is going to influence their thinking? You seem to ask all of these questions with sincerity and it doesn't comport with your otherwise intelligent perspectives.
      Did any of these ninnies flail around when Paul spoke of how to deal with an "honest rape"? I don't remember a big flap about his remarks which to some degree are as incendiary and foolish as Akin's. Paul and his supporters have nothing to offer other than pretzelthink.

      •  It's more to shine a light... (14+ / 0-)

        on their views, because at first, they sound reasonable.  It's only when you dig deeper you find the psychosis, and for some of my friends, it was unfortunately too late, and they had already been assimilated like the Borg.

        And being at UCLA, you almost never come in contact with a Michele Bachmann or Rick Perry fan, but you do have a larger contingent of Ron Paul fans than many of us here would like to acknowledge.  They've managed to brainwash too many young people who should otherwise be solid liberals.  And anything I can do to stop the spread of the disease, I'm going to try to do.

        The reason I engage them sometimes isn't even to snap them out of it, but to educate their friends who haven't been brainwashed yet (but who they're trying to assimilate) when they see our exchanges on their own newsfeeds.  I once managed to get four of them to take my side in an Obamacare argument when I pointed out some of the good provisions in it, and how that hardly constituted a loss of "freedom".

        •  Knew a kid once in Miami. 1964. (4+ / 0-)
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          JeffW, BruinKid, nellgwen, G2geek

          He constantly walked around with a book recently put out by Barry Goldwater (Au H20).
          He was gay.
          What a world.

          Fuck Big Brother...from now on, WE'RE watching.

          by franklyn on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 09:23:35 PM PDT

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        •  There were a group of them in Lawrence KS. (6+ / 0-)

          I had no idea who they were at the time and just figured they were normal hippies.  Wowser.  Less than 5 minutes and I was scrambling for an exit from bizzaro world.  We were on the same side of the bus issue but . . .

          Everyone should join their march for a few steps.  It is a memorable experience that is hard to describe.

          Hey Ryan, where you goin' with that trans-vaginal probe in your hand

          by 88kathy on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 09:24:15 PM PDT

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        •  They seem pretty close to being Republicans (8+ / 0-)

          Only difference is they smoke a lot of weed.

        •  how to un-brainwash some of them: (8+ / 0-)

          Libertarians and Randians in particular are very good at describing their version of Utopia.

          Progressives, not so much in recent history.  

          The answer to that is to come up with your own coherent vision and description of what a better society is like.

          And the crucial part of that is, it needs to express ways in which it meets the ambitions and aspirations of individuals.

          One way to get at that is to ask someone what inspires them, what they envision for their future, and how they expect to get from here to there.   If you don't know or can't get a coherent answer from someone, you can try spelling it out for them.  

          For example:

          Fifty years ago it took one full-time wage earner to support a family, and they would typically buy a house within five years of getting married, have a 15-year mortgage, and have a secure job at a dignified wage, two weeks of vacation each year, good health insurance from their employer, and save money to send their kids to college.  That was called being in the middle class.

          Fifty years ago we were told that technology, automation, and computers would lead to a four-day work week, and a life of middle class leisure for all.

          Today it takes two full-time incomes to barely support a household: that's an 80-hour work week, not a four-day work week.  You graduate from college with debt that'll take as long to pay off as your grandparents' mortgage.  Then if you managed to get a decent job, it takes 30 years more to pay off the house.  Forget about vacation and health insurance, and if your kids want to go to college, they'll be paying off the debt for the rest of their lives. Leisure?  Surely you jest!

          Our vision as progressives is to restore the middle class, so Americans can once again have what used to be called "the good life."   Imagine graduating from high school or college into a secure job at a dignified wage.  Imagine that your job actually produces something useful to everyone around you.  Imagine paying off your college loans in five years, and buying a house you can pay off in twenty more years.  Think about never having to worry about being unemployed or foreclosed.

          Think about sending your kids to college on savings.  Think about having the freedom to change jobs when you choose, rather than being forced to take whatever you can get until your employer gets rid of you.  Think about having the security to start a small business using your own savings, and earn a decent fortune for yourself while creating jobs in your community. Think about having real free time in the evening and on weekends, for example to hop on a fast train for a weekend trip to another nearby city.  Think about being able to see a doctor without worrying about the bill.  Think about having good local schools for your kids, and a safe neighborhood for them to play in, and clean streets and a good library downtown.

          We used to have all of that, before the compulsive gambling crowd took over the economy and turned it into a casino.  We can have it again.  That's a lot of why we're progressives, and we're inviting you to join up with us.

          ---

          You can tailor a rant like that to address practically anyone's hopes and dreams.  

          Whatever they want, so long as it's not "to prey on others and impose my will on them," they've got a much better chance of having it in a progressive society than in a social darwinist Randian one.  

          "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

          by G2geek on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 11:32:26 PM PDT

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      •  Another example (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        JeffW, grover, walkshills

        From Sunday, the guy posts completely falsified statistics on gun violence in Australia.  Three of his friends had "liked" his post by the time I responded with the facts.  Once I did, nobody else tried to like the status anymore.  He couldn't even respond to that either.  If they only saw the "news" link, they might believe how bad it got there after the gun ban.  I mean, armed robberies increased by 69%??  Holy fuckballs!  Oh wait, it's a complete lie?  Never mind then.

        Ah, if that link above doesn't work for you (I think his account is private for non-friends), I summarized it the other day.

    •  What I would ask them: (6+ / 0-)

      How do you know he didn't mean it? How did you know he isn't sick?

      Is it not more compassionate to evaluate someone and VERIFY that he is with full awareness exercising his first amendment rights than ignore him?   Are Jared Loughner and James Holmes better off because they "utilized their first amendment rights"?

      Libertarians (and a lot of others who are very uncomfortable with involuntary holds) tend to concentrate on the rights of the guy spewing crazy ideas vs the rights of those who may be harmed argument. And they ask, what about HIS rights?

      And my response is, yes, what about HIS rights? How is it in his best interests to rot in prison the rest of his life? What rights will he have when he's being executed for his misdeeds?

      If they really care about the rights of individuals, then they have to acknowledge that a country that guarantees the first amendment right AND life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness sometimes has to make a choice. Usually, we give both of these freely. But when we can't give both, we have to make a choice.

      And for those guys, if I could go back and do it over, I'd yank their first amendment rights (for 72 hours) in a heartbeat if doing so would guarantee life and liberty for the rest of their lives.

      And yes, I realize that the most rabid libertarian might say, it's not our place to judge or to try to save him if he's hellbent on self-destruction, even if he doesn't have the ability to make a rational decision.  

      Well, that rabid zealot doesn't value humanity.  I'd end the conversation.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 09:18:33 PM PDT

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    •  The guy supposedly made repeated threats (8+ / 0-)

      acted strange with the police, his unit buddies said he'd be the type to do something crazy, etc.

      There's prob more to it than the RP people want to let on. As long as they can manufacture a huge "govt is a meany" story, they are happy.   Seems the guy was unhinged and he gets a 30 day psych eval courtesy of the state.

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:05:32 PM PDT

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      •  Sounds like he needed it. (4+ / 0-)

        The rabid libertarian view is so immature, I can't stand it.

        Someone is sick. He may be a danger to himself or to you and your family, or both.

        We're supposed to let him be,  even though it's clear he doesn't have control of his cognitive faculties?

        Anyone who says that either has the emotional age of a 5 year old (although most 5 year olds realize that when someone hurting, you're supposed to help them.) Or they really are willing to gamble that despite all the facts we have based on what has been in the news the last 10 years,  a seriously mentally ill person who is threatening specific acts of violence poses no risk.

        In that case, I just wish there were a way to hold them accountable: perhaps make them help clean up the post-shooting spree theater, temple, school, etc.

        There's a reason why most RP fans are indulged white people, especially college students. They live protected lives and never have to clean up the mess of an apathetic amoral society.

        You may meet a lot of cynical burned out cops, ER docs,  border patrol, firefighters, and many of them may be Republicans because they are so cynical. But I doubt you'll ever meet any of these who is a true libertarian. They know if you don't knock down a smoldering flame, you'll have an inferno on your hands. And  they have to put out the inferno then deal with the victims.

        Libertarianism is about not being accountable even when you see a cigarette burning in dry weeds.

        © grover


        So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

        by grover on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 12:23:23 AM PDT

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    •  Looks like the system is working. (5+ / 0-)

      A person who may commit violence has been identified and is being screened for potential violent tendencies or capacities based on potential mental illness.  Wish that it worked that well that often.

      "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

      by auron renouille on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:33:29 PM PDT

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    •  psychiatric hold: threat of harm to self or others (5+ / 0-)

      In California it's called "5150" (pronounced "fifty-one fifty") after its statute number.   It allows police (and possibly other first-responders) to commit a person to the hospital for a 3-day psychiatric evaluation in the event that their speech or behavior demonstrates a clear danger to self or others.

      A typical case of "risk of harm to self" would be someone who is found to have slashed their wrists, taken a handful of pills, etc. or is threatening to do so.  

      As it turns out, most cases of acutely suicidal mood resolve naturally within three days (the mood "wears off"), so the 3-day psych hold actually saves lives.  

      A typical case of "risk of harm to others" would be someone who is making threatening gestures and speech in public, for example running around on the streets waving a knife in the air and shouting out loud in an incoherent manner.   (In addition to the psych hold they may also be charged with assault.)

      Given the recent epidemic of shootings by people who appear to be psychiatrically disturbed, public safety agencies across the US are probably taking no chances with people who make threats of violent acts.  

      So about this former Marine and the axe.

      To get into the Marine Corps and stay in, you have to demonstrate a high level of emotional and psychological stability, self-discipline, and imperviousness to discomfort.  Most retired Marines maintain these traits throughout their lives.

      If you encounter a former Marine who is obviously talking or acting "crazy," it's almost certain that they have a service-related psychiatric condition such as severe PTSD.  

      Now keep in mind that Marine Corps training includes extensive practice at hand-to-hand combat including methods of inflicting fatal injuries on opposing forces, using nothing more than bare hands or any object that one might happen to find (think "everything is a potentially useful weapon").  Anyone who has had this training and becomes psychiatrically disabled, is potentially a much higher risk to others than someone who doesn't have those skills.  

      So here we have Brandon Raub talking revolution (by itself that's protected speech; calls for revolution will not get you a visit from the feds), and specifically threatening to use his ("my") axe to "sever heads."  Coming from someone with Marine Corps training, that is not an idle remark, and it can reasonably be said to constitute an actual threat of violence against others.  

      The combination of "revolution" (protected speech) and "sever heads" (arguably a direct threat) is what got the feds' attention.  They would have dropped in for a quick interview to check the guy out and determine if he was just ranting or if he was an actual risk to anyone.  They would not have taken him into custody unless it was pretty clear that he was in fact a risk to others.  (Really: the FBI & Secret Service don't waste their time enforcing state & municipal laws & ordinances that are normally handled by local police departments.)

      Once he was in the hospital, he would not have been held beyond whatever time was specified in his state statute.  (Or if he was sent to a VA hospital, whatever is specified in their procedures), unless he continued to behave in a manner that clearly demonstrated a threat potential.  

      So the bottom line is:  

      A psychiatrist made a professional determination that this guy is a serious risk to others, and that's why he's still on psych hold.  

      Those Libertarians who are yowling about free speech must have been infiltrated by Scientologists (who have a notorious hatred of "teh psychiatric establishment").  They should be ashamed of themselves for politicizing a situation where a former Marine is clearly in need of serious help.  

      The appropriate response to this situation is to see to it that this guy gets the help he needs.  And if there is any political aspect to the story, it's that America's veterans deserve much better than they've been given, and Americans should work across party lines toward that end.  

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 11:10:08 PM PDT

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  •  Not Gonna Take It (28+ / 0-)

    TalkingPointsMemo

    Rock singer Dee Snider is incensed with Paul Ryan for playing his 1984 hit “We’re Not Gonna Take It” as his intro music at a Pennsylvania rally on Tuesday.

    “I emphatically denounce Paul Ryan’s use of my band Twisted Sister’s song, ‘We’re Not Gonna Take It,’ in any capacity,” Snider told TPM in a statement relayed by his manager Tuesday. “There is almost nothing he stands for that I agree with except the use of the P90X.”
    ...
    A spokesman for Romney said the campaign is reviewing Snider’s request.


    Just Win, Baby. -- Al Rodgers, Feb. 24, 2012

    by OLinda on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:32:30 PM PDT

  •  Shocker! Moron has morons working on his campaign (16+ / 0-)
    Dear Todd Akin, Your/Your’re a Moron

    Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akin, the Republican Senate candidate who believes uteri have a rape exception, has launched a "Still Standing" website asking supporters to sign a petition. Actually, he's launched it three times, because whoever is writing his websites for him doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're."

    http://gawker.com/...

    Chicago--Proud Home of the 1907-08 World Series Champion Chicago Cubs

    by Jeff Y on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:35:46 PM PDT

  •  Lawrence O'Donnell last night... (18+ / 0-)

    explained why Claire McCaskill needs our support.

    Sadly, my diary was hijacked by two posters who went concern trolling on how McCaskill is the worst thing ever, and that we can't be true progressives if we actually lift a finger to help her win re-election.  As if Akin would somehow be BETTER for America, or for progressives.  The most mind-boggling exchange I had was one of them telling me Nader "saved" us from having Lieberman as VP, because he's actually "crazier" than Dick Cheney!!  Um, suuuuuuure... as if Al Gore would be as weak as Bush was in letting his Vice President walk all over him.

    Sigh.

  •  Ezra does bad tv. (1+ / 0-)
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    I mean really, if someone has a personality/voice/manner that was made for the backroom, it's Ezra.

    Since Rachel uses him as her replacement-guy, and since tonight he sat in for Ed, I really hope he doesn't ruin his career by trying his own tv show.

    That said, sometimes Ezra presents good geeky stuff.  Tonight, he provided the numbers in Lyin Rand's budget.  I didn't write the numbers down, but you might want to watch the clip.

    My interpretation, and I am not at all joking, is that Pinnochio does indeed want to kill the poor.

  •  Here in San Antonio, we have a meterologist, (13+ / 0-)

    Steve Browne on KSAT-TV, which is the ABC affiliate, that regularly points out the climate abberations.
    He never tries to push an agenda. He, merely, points things out and lets it go at that.
    Doing a wonderful job.

    Fuck Big Brother...from now on, WE'RE watching.

    by franklyn on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:38:27 PM PDT

  •  For a chuckle (0+ / 0-)

    "On this subject, I do not wish to think, or speak, or write, with moderation." William Lloyd Garrison

    by HoratioGalt on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:39:39 PM PDT

  •  You missed one (1+ / 0-)
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    indie17

    Punkin4 and shes not a spammer.  Although I doubt shes one of the most recent.

    http://www.thrivemovement.com

    by glbTVET on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:42:00 PM PDT

  •  How does Todd Akin... (8+ / 0-)

    only have around 3,800 Twitter followers?

    That feed is a comedy goldmine.

  •  "Legitimate Rape" song (6+ / 0-)

    Singer-songwriter Taylor Ferrera is just out with this new song regarding Todd Akin's comments.  Make it go viral.  :-)

  •  Meet Cleveland "meteorologist" Andre Bernier (9+ / 0-)

    (I hate that word "meteorologist." Face it; weather forecasters are picked for their looks).

    http://andrebernier.com/...

    He's a denier. What a surprise — until you get to the end of his bio:

    André is a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ. His Christian faith and journey deepened after moving to Cleveland where he was spiritually mentored by a number of area pastors. This ignited his passion for ministry and after nearly a decade of post-graduate study, was ordained in 2004 at Grace Community Church in Massillon, Ohio by a board of local ministers who mentored him.  André serves as a creative arts pastor at Fellowship Bible Church in Chagrin Falls, Ohio.

    Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

    by anastasia p on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:45:11 PM PDT

    •  You're Probably Too Young to Remember Wally (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
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      Kinnan the Weatherman.

      I made a 15 year career built on exploiting the science he brought to Cleveland meteorology.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:53:26 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  In CT we actually have (6+ / 0-)

      meteorologists -- with PhDs -- even on the local FOX affiliate.  All are rather good and the best one, Dr. Mel, is definitely not picked for his looks.  Everyone loves him -- He had a serious bout with cancer -- survived, has serious osteoporosis, is probably in his 70s but is a serious scientist re: global warming issues.

      Andre, on the other hand, should just go be a minister in the church of Pat Robertson.  Who puts that shite on a professional site dealing with weather?

      " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

      by gchaucer2 on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:54:01 PM PDT

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    •  Oi. (0+ / 0-)

      That's the kind of thing that would turn me off to a channel's newscast.  Does that make its way into his news segments?

      "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

      by auron renouille on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:27:28 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Thanks for mentioning Climate Change SOS! (9+ / 0-)

    There have been some excellent posts.  Come on over and check things out.  You owe it to yourself.

    If we really want to straighten out all this crap we need to really think about shit!

    by John Crapper on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:45:56 PM PDT

  •  My meteorologist (10+ / 0-)

    is NOAA.  I don't have a teevee and forget NPR Hartford re: forecasts.  My NOAA station is from Albany (Upton) and the geeks are great -- they relay a lot of info in basic English even though there are links for the technical terms.  They have a sense of humour.  

    For CT, I actually have to check 3 different NOAA stations if I'm travelling 30 miles east or west -- Boston, NYC and Albany.  It really makes a tremendous difference in the winter since I'm in the ice box of the State.

    NOAA is well aware of the current crises due to climate change.  Excellent articles on regions.

    Oh -- and my other meteorologist is weatherdude.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:48:18 PM PDT

  •  Not To Mention Entire Weather Channels Devoted (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JML9999, indie17, OLinda, BlueJessamine

    to the Lord.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:54:13 PM PDT

  •  Funny you should mention this. (14+ / 0-)

    For years now weathercasters have been reporting with
    astonishment that in California at least:

    records have been broken with heat;
    records have been broken with high winds;
    records have been broken with number of tornadoes in one year;
    records have been broken with cold temperature;
    records have been broken with number of Santa Ana winds in the years;

    and on and on and on, and when they do note these records
    I've turned to my wife countless times and wondered aloud why in hell nobody mentions the goddamned number of records being broken all the goddamned time.

    I was seeing what Adam had seen on the morning of his creation - the miracle, moment by moment, of naked existence. --The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley

    by Wildthumb on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:54:20 PM PDT

  •  Sometimes doing nothing (9+ / 0-)

    is too dang expensive too  ...


    How much will Climate Change cost -- if we do nothing?
    by jamess -- Aug 21, 2012


    Robin Trower -- Bridge Of Sighs


    http://youtu.be/...


    a stitch in time ...


    Are you ready to Vote? Are you still 'allowed' to Vote?
    -- Are you sure?

    by jamess on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:55:48 PM PDT

  •  Solar power at the army depot near (8+ / 0-)

    where I live. Tooele Army Depot is installing 430 solar concentrators that will boost Utah's solar energy capacity by 15%.

    "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

    by high uintas on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 08:59:28 PM PDT

  •  Dave on "Mitch" Romney.................... (5+ / 0-)

    "Looks like the closer at Beverly Hills Mercedes"

    I don't which is more insulting, calling him Mitch or a car salesman.

    On Paul, the Mini-Mitch,  "Looks like the guy on packages of underwear".

    On Todd Akin - "Mitch Romney aksed him to step down and that's a shame cause he was going to lead us into the 16th century

    And, drum roll please, the truth about who got Osama:  video showing he was hit by a Mr. Softie ice cream truck.  Last night he died choking on a pop tart.  No doubt more proof Obama didn't do it in videos to come.

    On Republican Convention theme "A Better Future".  Really, A Better Future?  That was the theme for my high school prom.

    Proud Democrat since 1960.

    by Lying eyes on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 09:00:28 PM PDT

  •  Do you want to politicize the weather? (0+ / 0-)

    There will be kickback, and not every weather person agrees with AGW, or will they get blacklisted?

    TV Meteorologists are not generally climatologists, but even if they were, do you want them taking sides? They get only a few minutes and they're lucky to explain the forecast in the time they have. When news from NOAA comes out, it should be regular news and done by the anchors, perhaps with a toss to the weatherperson. If you want them to host a special program outside of the normal news, that might work, but politicizing the local evening news is probably as likely to set us back as it will take us forward.

    -We need Healthcare Reform... but i'm selfish, I Need Healthcare reform-

    by JPax on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 09:04:35 PM PDT

    •  yeah, let's just keep going (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      too many people, ConfusedSkyes

      business as usual.

    •  Yeah, I'm not quite sure that a 45-second (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      JPax

      segment on the weather is a good place to win that war.  By 11:25pm, most people just want to know clothes to put out for the morning, not a thesis on the declining health of the earth.  Climate change belongs in those first few minutes of the newscast, not at 25 after the hour.

      But it still baffles me that denialism is so high amongst them.  But I've never known how news stations do the weather - I've known some stations that employed very experienced and knowledgeable weather forecasters, people who knew the science, but I think some of them in smaller markets or with smaller audience share definitely aim low and just employe someone who doesn't look bad on TV and get their forecasts from a third party entity.

      "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

      by auron renouille on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:21:52 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Hehe. (10+ / 0-)

    DemocraticLuntz asked on Facebook how the AFA's Bryan Fischer got into Stanford.  My response:

    Affirmative action.  They needed to meet their quota of theocratic fucksticks.
    :-)
  •  22 years ago today (23+ / 0-)

    I got a page (!!) while I was working on a case and went to a pay-phone (!!) and found out my SIL was in labor.  I took a cab to National (not Reagan National) Airport and walked onto a shuttle (no security check, no ticket) and flew to LaGuardia (paid with a credit card onboard), and got off and ran to the taxi stand and hailed a cab and said, "I'm going to be an Aunt, please hurry to Mount Sinai" and the driver high-tailed it over the Queensborough Bridge and then to the hospital, and I ran in (no security) and took an elevator to the third floor -- and just as I arrived at the window where you could see the new babies, the nurses were wheeling one little baby in -- she had rosebud lips and looked just like my Dad -- and I had nothing to write with, so I pulled out a legal pad and wrote our family name on it with a question mark, in red lipstick and held it up and they nodded . . . and that is how I met Kate.

    She is just back from an internship at the Olympics.  I had dinner with her tonight.

    And today she turned 22.

    Happy birthday, dearest Kate.

  •  200 species extinct EACH DAY (6+ / 0-)

    there's a lot the news should be addressing.

  •  It's a balmy day in downtown Seattle. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
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    It was 1962.  The World's Fair in Seattle.  Every day was a balmy day in downtown Seattle.  I remember my dad finally had enough and almost threw the TV through the window.  It was raining everywhere else, but a balmy day in downtown Seattle.

    Hey Ryan, where you goin' with that trans-vaginal probe in your hand

    by 88kathy on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 09:19:26 PM PDT

  •  The Kid's State Dinner. On Nightline Monday night (5+ / 0-)

    On Monday night's NightLine there was a segment of The Kid's State Dinner at the White House.

    On the WH web page here are some of the videos leading up to the dinner and videos that were shown live at the dinner.  Also speeches by FLOTUS and POTUS.
    (1) Preparing for the Kid's State Dinner: Picking Winners of the Healthy Lunchtime Challenge  4:12 mins
    (2) Behind the Scenes: White House Chefs Prep the Kids' State Dinner  2:09 mins
    (3) "The First Lady Speaks at the 2012 Kids’ State Dinner"  10:48 mins
    (4) President Obama Speaks at the 2012 Kids’ State Dinner  3:36 mins
    (5) 2012 Kids’ State Dinner with Sam Kass  39:01 mins  (Was Live)

    Ref. link (1): http://www.whitehouse.gov/...
    Ref. link (2): http://www.whitehouse.gov/...
    Ref. link (3): http://www.whitehouse.gov/...
    Ref. link (4): http://www.whitehouse.gov/...
    Ref. link (5): http://www.whitehouse.gov/...

  •  PHEW. Week o' DIY home rennovation coming to (9+ / 0-)

    a close.

    We've got an old and very strangely laid out house with one bathroom that happens to be a jack and jill bathroom, accessible only through two of the bedrooms. It's kinda awkward when guests come over....and when the kids were very very small it was fine, but now that they're 8 and 4, we're looking for a bit more privacy.

    It's a 3 bedroom house but the 3rd bedroom had a strange access from the kitchen through a long, narrrow hall on the other side of the house and we didn't want to put the kids in there...or us. So that was kind of an office  guest room / large mess.

    What we did was smash out a bit of wall so the 3rd bedroom is accessible near the other bedrooms. That one's gonna be the kid's room. The kids' current room will be ours. And our room will be a play room / common area where people can get to the bathroom without having to go through a bedroom.

    AND we get more privacy.

    The whole project: Under $300. Managed to find some 12x16 carpet at the Rescue Mission re-sale store for $170. Shazam.

    Anyway...that project is just about done.

    •  w00t! gotta love home renovation. And when you go (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      JeffW

      to sell that will be a huge plus. Under HUD you cannot sell under a FHA loan if you have to go through a sleeping space to get to the bathroom. Our first house was like that and we bought it under the FHA 203K program. The 203K inspector literally looked the other way, it was a judgement call based on where a door was located and thankfully, he took our side.

      if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

      by mrsgoo on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:10:25 PM PDT

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    •  what was the original rationale... (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      JeffW

      .... for building houses where the bathroom had two doors only accessible from bedrooms?

      Seems to me that a floorplan that goes against a few of the key conventions of interior layout for most of the 20th century, must have had a reason for it, especially since it's actually a fairly common design.  

      Maybe that layout was designed for parents with small kids, since you said it worked for you when your kids were younger?

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 12:03:08 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  temp just dropped about 20 degrees in less than an (8+ / 0-)

    hour. 95 to 75 outside of phoenix

  •  Calamity Jean and I had an interesting... (9+ / 0-)

    ...evening. About 10:30 PM., the power went off, all along our street, and for a couple of blocks north, south, and west. Power came back on about 45 minutes later.

    I can't wait until we have our new house up, and install the wind turbine and batteries!

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 09:40:15 PM PDT

  •  I have a horrible (14+ / 0-)

    sinking feeling these days that I didn't have even in the darkest days of Bush and Cheney. I live in the south and it's always been kind of weird here for me- I'm an androgynous looking woman and people can be really hostile when they don't know what sex you are. About twenty years ago I came really close to having the shit beat out of me in a deserted parking lot by three guys who pulled up in a pick up truck and got out holding their beer bottles upside down saying, " faggot, faggot, faggot." I said some smart ass thing that stopped the beating, and they got back in their truck saying, " bitch, bitch, bitch." So, it's not like I haven't dealt with some crap over the years. But the vibe is so much worse now. We took the grandkids to the beach at the state park we always go to in Florida this June. I don't know if it was the Volvo, the Obama bumper sticker, how we looked, or the fact that our grandkids are mixed, or all of it, but some of the people there scared me. Most everyone was really nice as usual, but the ones that weren't were scary hostile. I've been there with gay guys dressed in drag in the past and not gotten that kind of response. Driving home we stopped to find a hotel and had to just move on a couple of times the vibe was so bad. We had a domestic unfortunate event that left a bunch of our clothes and bedding drenched and we had to find an all night laundry to get it all done. There was so much to do we couldn't go in the daytime. We drove and drove looking for one and ended up in Murfreesboro because it was the only place with a 24 hour one. There was a local paper there called The Reader that just scared the fucking crap out of me. Needless to say, I have been hyper aware of the awfulness happening in Murfreesboro with the mosque, but, oh my god. The hate in that little paper. It was enough to make me want to convert to Islam in solidarity. I'm not anything so I couldn't really convert, but I am serious. My partner told me I could be a Sufi. He spent his childhood in Bahrain and can sing the call to prayer with no accent, and as we drove home through the beautiful Tennessee country side with the sun coming up over the misty rain fat fields, he taught it to me. It was comforting somehow.

  •  Northern California is on fire (5+ / 0-)

    Tens of thousands of acres. Mature forestland - not just brush and scrub. Local teevee "news" is covering the "story" whenever a subdivision is threatened or an "outbuilding" burns and there's footage.

    I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused.

    Corporate media (local included) wouldn't investigate a thousand shark attacks in a week unless one of their Barbies got a tit bitten off. And they had video.

    That the ELECTED might never form to themselves an interest separate from the ELECTORS, prudence will point out the propriety of having elections often -Thomas Paine

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:06:48 PM PDT

    •  I've been tracking that. Looks awful. (5+ / 0-)

      You can use wundermap and check the 'Fire' option in the right panel.  Gives you satellite, size of fire, other details.

      http://www.wunderground.com/...

      •  It's my "Homeland" (4+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        atana, trueblueliberal, indie17, JeffW

        ..where my mental "Security" used to get refreshed on an occasional road-trip.

        A global pandemic would be "reported" as a "possible flu-bug" if you got your information from local TeeVee around here. My forests are burning.

        I'm somewhat 'puter literate and still quasi- sentient. Local voters?

        They don't even need to cage the vote in CA-3 if Dancing With The Stars and "Job Creators" are foremost in the voter's minds and at least it's not their house burning to the ground. (Close race and execrable incumbent)

        I actually was reading Che Guevara today. "Triumph or die" makes more sense than pretending to be a proverbial frog slowly boiling in a pot on a burner fueled by fracking natural gas.

        Tired. So awfully tired..

        That the ELECTED might never form to themselves an interest separate from the ELECTORS, prudence will point out the propriety of having elections often -Thomas Paine

        by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:54:16 PM PDT

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  •  Another reason to protest RW radio stations (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    nellgwen, G2geek

    Like voter suppression- another win for RWradio the last 20 years.

    Like all media, when they see protests at the soapboxes from which the bullies have been threatening them for 20 years it will make a difference.

    Local weatherpeople and their producers got the message along time ago from the assholes on the  soap boxes reading fossil fuels talking points from every  corner of the country and the idiots who believe them and called and emailed them it was a commie enviro plot just because the environmental groups never protested those  stations and  environmentally concerned students never protested their universities endorsing those stations.

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and partisan lying by broadcasting sports on Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:09:22 PM PDT

  •  What's up with weather forecasters? (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    atana, too many people, JeffW

    Is there a demographic reason why so many of them don't believe in climate change?  Surely, even if they have a business reason to not acknowledge climate change on-air out of fear of politicizing their news channels, that needn't lead to holding denier views.  Lots of people in lots of careers separate the personal from the professional from the political... seems odd to me.

    "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

    by auron renouille on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:12:44 PM PDT

  •  blame it on el niño, la Nina- that's easier than (5+ / 0-)
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    nellgwen, indie17, atana, orlbucfan, JeffW

    getting a bunch of screaming calls from dittoheads and teabaggers who graduated from the limbaugh hannity school of climatology

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and partisan lying by broadcasting sports on Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:16:16 PM PDT

  •  Montana Repubs line up behind Akin (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    nellgwen, Eric Nelson
  •  My guy is back in town (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    OLinda, Eric Nelson

     I won't have the free time to read all the articles I want to or chat as much, but I love it when my guy comes back to town.
      I definitely be here for the debates and the conventions though. And here and there.
      I have started to watch old WKRP in Cincinnati this week. I forgot about how funny that show was.
      Especially Les Nessman. I forgot all about the painted line around his desk signifying a door, and all those band-aids.
      And now with a special report:
      It is snowing in Cincinnati.
      And Chy Chy Rod-ri-gweese.
     

    You guys can call him what you want, after today he'll forever be known to me as Mitt the Inept., and Lady Ann his wife.

    by nellgwen on Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 10:43:10 PM PDT

  •  Weatherman John Coleman. Weather Channel Founder. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    too many people, JeffW

    Big time global warming denier.

    In the fall of 2007, he described the current concern over global warming as "a fictional, manufactured crisis, and a total scam."[2][3][4] Critics of Colman’s have questioned his lack of academic credentials, journalism degree, and charge that he has not conducted actual research in the area of climate change. [5][6][7] [8] In 2008, Coleman gave a speech to the San Diego Chamber of Commerce blaming the "global warming scam" and environmentalist lobby, for rising gas and food prices. He also declared the scam "a threat to our economy and our civilization."[9]
    Coleman has also made appearances on CNN, Fox News Channel and on the Showtime program, Penn & Teller: Bullshit!, to share his global warming views. Coleman recently published an article entitled "The Amazing Story Behind the Global Warming Scam"[10] in which he promotes the idea that many scientists and politicians have been embroiled in fraudulent activity based on incomplete science and a political motive for a world government. Coleman says the genesis of the global warming movement was the claims of scientist Roger Revelle, an early mentor of Al Gore.
    In January 2010, Coleman produced a special report for KUSI-TV, entitled Global Warming: The Other Side, in which he forwards his view on Global Warming as a scam—and lays out what he believes to be evidence of a deliberate manipulation of world temperature data by NASA and others.[11]
  •  Any smart insomniacs out there? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Leo Flinnwood

    One of the educated guesses about the reluctance of RMoney to release the tax returns is that a lot of the "donations" hgo e declared couple years awere through the LDS to the anti Prop 8 campaign.

     I've been meaning to ask knowledgeable readers here if the donations to that political campaign were funneled separately and reported rather than buried in LDS funding. Can this be tracked? Would they have been pseudo-legal, political contributions masked as charity and challengeable?

  •  (1) Julian Assange as icon? (2) Wallace as winner? (0+ / 0-)

    The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war.

    by lotlizard on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 01:00:07 AM PDT

  •  On-Air weather personalities are usually empty... (0+ / 0-)

    talking heads. The few whose bios I've read have Communications BAs. Weather simply ended up being the easiest way to get in front of a camera, from what I can tell. A path that would be made significantly harder by spouting crazy things like the truth in as corporate an environment as local television.

  •  Todd Akin "Forgiveness": Annotated edition (0+ / 0-)

    Found this from a comment on his FB page (which is still blowing up on every thread).

    Worth checking out, hasn't had too many viewings yet.

    In capitalist America, bank robs you!

    by madhaus on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 01:17:23 AM PDT

  •  Big oil, big coal etc. will NEVER sponsor news (0+ / 0-)

    networks on which the meteorologists talk about climate change. So if those broadcast meteorologists want to keep their jobs, they’ll STFU about climate change.
    Just another reason we need at least one government-sponsored cable news network.

  •  Environment is not a very "hot tag" on DKos (0+ / 0-)

    28 points compared with Romney 104. Yes, I know there's an election coming but environment isn't even an election issue and it should be.

    ❧To thine ownself be true

    by Agathena on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 01:55:37 AM PDT

  •  Jeers to insomnia. Cheers to improving (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Leo Flinnwood, JeffW

    the shining hour anyway. I do some of my most creative cooking in the wee hours. Meatloaf sliders on Wonder Bread buns for breakfast!!!

    Leftovers will have superduper bbq sauce, but not now.There's a limit.

    If the cooking bug continues: mini-quiches with goosefoot (lamb's quarters)
    weeded from the front yard (weeds taste twice as good as $7.50 arugula from Whole Paycheck) with a little kale (not a wed, but I need an excuse to wear my band-new "Eat more Kale" T-shirt (the one Chick-Fil-A are suing about, ridiculously).

    Don't let millionaires steal Social Security.
    I said, "Don't let millionaires steal Social Security!"

    by Leo in NJ on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 02:06:17 AM PDT

  •  Had an argument w/ a deregulationist (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    trueblueliberal, JeffW

    and asked "Which reg would u repeal first?

    Enough lifeboats for everyone?

    No locks on fire exits during business hours?

    Or the one that says if you borrow money from the company till, you have to sign a form?

    That last one went "ding ding ding" if I'm any judge of body language.

    Don't let millionaires steal Social Security.
    I said, "Don't let millionaires steal Social Security!"

    by Leo in NJ on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 02:16:49 AM PDT

  •  Super important issue! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JeffW

    Most people don't know much about science (Not talking about the witch-hunters who are actively hostile to true facts), but they do know TV. TV has a duty to inform America (didn't someone write that down somewhere once?)

    The corporate owner$ won't like it, of course. We need legal and unemployment defense funds for TV weatherpeople.

    Don't let millionaires steal Social Security.
    I said, "Don't let millionaires steal Social Security!"

    by Leo in NJ on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 02:35:41 AM PDT

  •  Apple's conduct redwashed? (0+ / 0-)

    http://arstechnica.com/...

    A "labor group" has written a report on Apple and Foxconn, which Apple is co-operating with. Good, no?

    Well, maybe not. This group, under a different name, has worked to diffuse tension over mistreatment of workers creating Nike and Walmart ("Kathie Lee Gifford") products. It wouldn't be surprising if that's what's happening here. One would almost expect it, as part of Apple's duty to provide profit to its shareholders.

  •  Freeport Ill - vulturized by Bain (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    trueblueliberal

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/...

    08/17/12

    Bain Closes U.S. Plant, Forces Workers to Train Chinese Replacements

     Bain's deleterious impact on workers continues to surface.

    In the most recent news in that vein, The Guardian reports that Bain has for months been dismantling and shipping to China, "piece by piece," a car parts plant, of which it is majority owner, in Freeport, Ill. -- even as it requires the workers to train personally their Chinese replacements, who have been flown in by management.

    Romney Wants to Eliminate Subsidies for PBS, Amtrak, National Endowment for the Arts and Humanities

    by anyname on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 03:02:13 AM PDT

  •  A couple weeks ago, there was some CNN article (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JeffW

    about the thinning of the Arctic ice cap. The talking head burbled, "Some see this as opportunity!"

    Yep! Drill, baby, drill! That's all that matters!

  •  Our local meteorologist is a stone denier. (3+ / 0-)
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    The most prominent meteorologist at the dominant news station in our market (cough-Kevin Williams-cough) is a flat-earth climate change denialist. Over the last five years he has repeatedly disparaged the possibility of human influence on climate, going so far as to host a half-hour long show that was one long screed of mainstream denialism. "We don't have enough science yet. We need more studies. There are natural cycles of climate variation. The world is huge and we are small". Yadda, yadda, yadda.

    The Koch brothers must be proud of him.

    •  He is either on their payroll, directly or not (1+ / 0-)
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      or an idiot, be it of the religious or teabag sort. In the US we've perfected the art of being "successful" despite being a complete idiot. All that's necessary is for one to be "likeable" and have a good "attitude", and intelligence is optional. In fact we've not only factored out the need for intelligence, we've made it a liability.

      This man is an obvious example of such.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 04:13:32 AM PDT

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  •  CNN reports WSJ poll as showing (2+ / 0-)
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    Obama & Romney running "neck and neck" even though Obama is at 48% and Romney is at 44%. They also report these numbers as being within the margin of error even though it's 3.1%. WTF?!? Do CNN "analysts" not understand basic math, are they just trying to appear to be "fair and balanced" so as to not upset right-leaning viewers, or is this all about a ratings push of the "horse race"?

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 04:09:40 AM PDT

  •  Weathermen know who writes their paycheck (0+ / 0-)

    and if they know what's good for them they'll keep quiet about climate change -- it hurts the parent corporation's bottom line and to do anything real about the climate would break their grip of power.

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    by The Dead Man on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:12:31 AM PDT

  •  There is a big difference between ... (0+ / 0-)

    weathercasters, largely meteorologists, and climate scientists.

    Climate scientists generally have advanced degrees while meteorologists generally have a Bachelors degree.

    In addition Climate scientists work for universities and research organizations, while meteorologists work for "media companies" - many of which are owned by conservative climate deniers, like the Koch brothers.  

    This is, IMO, the main reason why climate change denial has been as effective as it is (while absent relevant facts) - because the apparatus exists for putting out a message, regardless of veracity.

    "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

    - Upton Sinclair

    "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." -- Hubert H. Humphrey

    by Candide08 on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:52:58 AM PDT

  •  This makes me think I should support polygamy (0+ / 0-)

    An email from Human Rights Campaign today starts out:

    Just yesterday, one of Mitt Romney's highest profile supporters, and a member of the GOP platform committee, said same-sex marriage is something the government should condemn – along with drug use and polygamy.
    I support same sex marriage.  I don't support polygamy, though I haven't thought very hard about it for a good while.  Now I'm groping for a distinction between same sex marriage and multiple marriage that would support what seems to be a paradox.

    We're all pretty strange one way or another; some of us just hide it better. "Normal" is a dryer setting.

    by david78209 on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 07:46:18 AM PDT

  •  TV people are TV people. Issues that don't support (0+ / 0-)

    the 'narrative' are not covered, actively ignored or are denied.

  •  *sigh* mets (0+ / 0-)

    The thing about meteorologists is that they are a conservative bunch. This is probably because the top meteorology schools are in Oklahoma and Texas, two states not known for their progressive attitudes toward things.

    Another reason that that meteorologists have a huge blind spot that extends forward about two weeks. That is the absolute top end of accuracy for a forecast when it comes to weather and makes for a very short-sighted professional.

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