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There are 90 million voters, who are not going to vote in this November's national elections for one reason or another. Some are fed up with the current two party system. Some think that politics has become too dirty, and they don't want to be involved. Some say that all the candidates are the same, some say that their vote doesn't mean anything, and some think that politics doesn't concern or affect them. This diary is for all of you because your vote does count, and the political party that gains power in this, perhaps the most important election in your lifetimes, will influence YOUR life for decades to come. The list that I compiled demonstrates in detail exactly how each of your lives will be changed if the Republicans, and Willard Romney gain power.

But first a bit of background.

For those of you who think that politics doesn't matter in your lives I have one point to make. We all get old. There is currently no way around it. If you live in America, and you get old, there are two government programs that will affect your life in ways that you can't yet imagine, particularly if you are under 40, unless, of course, you have relatives who are getting old. The first program is Medicare, and this program is currently fiscally sound until 2024 thanks in large part to the recent passage of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). By implementing about $716 billion in cost savings (over a ten year period) and redistributing the money to cover free preventive care and to close the donut hole, where seniors paid premium prices out of pocket for their prescriptions, the Obama administration has extended the solvency of Medicare until the year 2024. Without the Affordable Care Act Medicare will be insolvent by 2016 during Romney's first term. Both political parties agree that Medicare needs to be 'strengthened', but the method of 'strengthening' the program is in dispute (quotes for 'strengthening' because the Republican idea of 'strengthening' is synonymous with 'destroying.').

The second large government program that will affect your lives is Social Security, a contract between the people and their government whereby you pay into your retirement account (with your employer matching your contribution), and the government guarantees that your retirement income is secure (with interest). Social Security is the most successful government program ever, and it does not contribute one penny to the national debt. In fact, the Social Security Trust Fund currently has a surplus of $2.7 trillion. The program just celebrated its 77th anniversary, and with very minor tweaking (raising the salary cap from $106,000 to $250,000) will be solvent for another 75 years.

When I was thirty years old, I simply knew that I would make so much money that Social Security wouldn't affect my life, one way or the other. Well, I did make a ton of money, and I also lost a ton of money. And guess what!?! That Social Security check every month like clockwork makes a much bigger difference than I ever thought it would. As for Medicare, I am extremely healthy. I eat super foods and avoid processed foods and refined sugar. I surf and mountain trail run every day, weather permitting, and the weather generally does cooperate here in sunny Hawaii. I haven't been sick one day since I began the alkaline diet six year ago (crosses fingers), so I haven't had to utilize my Medicare, yet. Social Security makes an automatic deduction each month to cover my Medicare insurance, so I am covered if I ever need it, and I know that I will at some point because I have watched my family age, some gracefully, some not. The point that I am making is that my healthcare is assured for the rest of my life without my doing anything except to (attempt to) stay healthy.

Which brings me to why your vote this November is the most important vote in your life...Republicans since Ronald Reagan have been pushing the country to the right, and now the party of Eisenhower serves the rich and powerful exclusively, leaving the poor and middle class to fend for themselves. That's their philosophy. They're proud of it. And this election cycle they are attempting to consolidate the impressive gains that they made under G.W. Bush, making America a corporatocracy, a functioning oligarchy, where the rich rule to the detriment of everyone else.

Disclaimer: Romney has said that he and Ryan agree nearly 100% on their respective budgets, but the Romney/Ryan budget intentionally lacks specifics, so I have extrapolated the findings of reputable, mostly non-partisan organizations to compose this list. If we wait for Romney to 'explain' or fill out the details of his budget plan, it will be November, and we, the voters will still be waiting...

Most of the time the damage done by Republicans isn't readily apparent, but this election is different. Republican policies will change your life dramatically. Your vote does count. Please use it, so that the following does NOT happen:

Some unpleasant things to contemplate if Romney/Ryan win in November:

1. If you are currently under 55, when you apply for Medicare, you will be given a voucher that will be insufficient to cover YOUR health insurance costs. YOUR out of pocket expenses for health insurance will cost up to an additional $6400 in your first year (as opposed to the roughly $1200 paid by current seniors). YOU will also be shopping for health insurance in the private insurance market each and every year until the year that you die. How many octagenarians (80 year olds) and older do you know who can handle everyday finances?

2. When the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) is repealed, you will be subject to the whims and avarice of the health insurance industry when you encounter pre-existing conditions, lifetime coverage caps, and unwarranted price increases. Your children over 18 will no longer be covered on your health insurance. If you are currently on Medicare, the donut hole for prescription drugs will return, and your free preventive care (colonoscopies, mamograms, and annual checkups) will be discontinued, causing more expense for seniors already on Medicare. In addition, Federal Medicaid funds will be cut by 40% (or more), when the Romney/Ryan budget is enacted, curtailing care to the poor AND seniors, who are receiving hospice care. (MEDICARE DOES NOT PAY FOR NURSING HOME CARE, except as applied to your annual deductible.). Did you know that good nursing home care costs roughly $15,000 per month?

3. Roe v Wade will be overturned by an ultra-conservative Supreme Court, outlawing abortions and most likely also contraception because Romney/Ryan and the Republicans will continue moving our courts further to the right, and the current Republican controlled House has passed numerous bills to that effect. The religious right (an integral part of the Republican base) will emerge (with government sanction, wink, wink) to (attempt to) force their brand of pseudo-Christianity on the rest of us, including our military where they are already firmly entrenched. Our children's textbooks will be rewritten to revise history and demonize science, substituting creationism for Darwin's theory of evolution. (See the Texas textbook controversy where the religious right took over the school boards.) Also thanks to blue aardvark for this excellent diary further expanding our knowledge of the anti-abortion sentiment demonstrated by Paul Ryan and the 112th Congress.

4. The Supreme Court will almost assuredly become ultra-conservative for the forseeable future, inevitably granting corporations more rights (Citizens United v FEC) while they take away YOURS. (Did you know that on the political spectrum, there is Communism on the far left and fascism on the far right, where corporations become the government and run the show? - The definition of fascism.) Visualize a horizontal line with Communism at the far left and fascism at the far right. In the current political climate what we currently call liberal and progressive is at the center of the line, while Democrats and 'moderates' are right of center about one quarter of the way toward fascism. The current Republican Party leadership is right of center about three quarters of the way toward fascism with the radical fringe already well entrenched at the right end of the line in fascism. During the 1950s and 1960s, on a similar horizontal line Democrats, liberals and progressives were left of center about one quarter to one third toward Communism, moderates from both parties were at the center, and Republicans like Barry Goldwater were right of center about one quarter to one third toward fascism with the discredited ultra right wing John Birch Society at the far right end of the line, seeing Communist conspiracies behind every door while straddling fascism. With the current horizontal line today there is no balance. Everyone is either at the center or to the right of center. The American people rejected The John Birch Society in the sixties, partly because the last war against fascism was still visible in our rearview mirror, and partly because the J.B.S. were bat shit crazy, but now the J.B.S. is in charge of the Republican Party. Consider which direction the country will move if these people take control.

5. If you earn less than $200,000 annually, your Federal taxes will inevitably increase between $1000-2000 when the Romney/Ryan budget is implemented.

6. Corporate welfare (currently at $92 billion annually) will increase while the social safety net (currently at $59 billion annually) will be demolished to pay for the additional tax breaks for the rich. Food stamps that currently support 47 million Americans, federal aid to education, and food programs to feed poor children will be severely cut (if not eliminated altogether). Imagine what it would be like if government used tax revenue to benefit the people, not the corporations.

7.  There will be another war, probably in the Middle East and probably with Iran (because Romney's neocon foreign policy advisors like John Bolton, who was the U.N. Ambassador during the G.W. Bush administration, are pressing for action in support of Israel as this is being written).

8. The Defense Budget that is already larger than the next seventeen countries combined will be increased to support Defense Contractors and war profiteers like Halliburton and Xe.

9. You will commute and travel on crumbling highways and unsafe bridges because infrastructure expenditures have been cut to the bone so that millionaires and billionaires (like Romney, Ryan, members of Congress, and their billionaire 'dark money' contributors) can have more tax cuts.

10. The EPA will be disabled, removing carbon dioxide from its regulatory purview, effectively crippling the agency to regulate the root cause of global warming, and the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts will be undone so that Romney and Ryan's big parasitic corporate contributors will get what they paid for to extract fossil fuels at the expense of everyone's health. The government, through the EPA has done numerous studies, reflecting the added health costs related to relaxing and/or eliminating the clean air and water restrictions which is probably the main reason that the big polluters (i.e. Koch Industries, one of the top ten polluters in the country) want to dismantle it.

11. Greenhouse gases pumped into the atmosphere will increase, not decrease, causing global warming to reach an irreversible tipping point. The Keystone X/L pipeline will be built, causing what leading climate scientist, James Hansen calls, 'game over' with regard to man's efforts to halt or ameliorate climate change due to the negative effects of developing, transporting, and refining the tar sands oil.

12. Wall Street 'too large to fail' banks will be completely deregulated (Dodd - Frank repealed - Glass - Stegall only a distant memory), opening the 'grand casino' to use investors' money (i.e. ultimately taxpayers money) for gambling on derivatives and other contrived investment instruments that will inevitably cause the economy to fail as it did in 2007-09.

13. Unemployment will increase by roughly 4.1 million Americans in the first two years that the Romney/Ryan budget is implemented, according to Ethan Pollack at The Economic Policy Institute. Romney's claim that his budget will provide 12 million new jobs and cut the unemployment rate to 6.2% have been labelled “a fantasy” and “a mathematical impossibility” by Nobel Prize winning economist, Paul Krugman and Ezra Klein (with similar comments regarding Paul Ryan's budget).

14. Social Security will be privatized, implementing David Koch's plan when he ran for Vice President in 1980 of which Willard Romney and Paul Ryan are major proponents (as was G.W. Bush in 2005), giving the Wall Street casino control of YOUR retirement savings. Hat tip to cc  ( previous link) for his excellent diary.

15. More minorities, poor people and undocumented immigrants will be locked up, as they currently are in many red states, using the phony war on drugs as a Republican rationalization to support their 'prisons for profit' agenda.

16. Groups like ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) will be reinvigorated, writing legislation without transparency, in secret, directly by corporations for corporations, circumventing the democratic, legislative process.

17. Everything that isn't nailed down (and many things that are) will be 'profitized/privatized.' What many people don't understand is that, in general, public work projects cost more and are of higher quality than private sector projects due to higher construction standards. So, when special interests 'privatize' public projects, they are buying 'on the cheap.' In Wisconsin, for example, the Koch brothers with Governor Walker's help are taking advantage of a bad economy to line their own pockets.

18. Voter suppression and new Jim Crow laws will be passed to keep minorities from voting and thereby 'threatening' white folks.

If even half of the 90 million recalcitrant voters simply vote, there will be an end to ALL this Republican BS. Your vote DOES count because the Republicans are counting on you not to vote. I have intentionally left off comparisons between the parties, focusing instead on Republican policies because I consider them the most aggregious (my personal bias). These are just a few of the negative consequences of electing Romney and Ryan. Feel free to add your own in the comments...

I live in Hawaii, and I'm six hours behind EDT. I'll be available to respond after 1:00PM EST

10:21 AM PT: Thanks Roadbed Guy. Title changed to reflect your comment.

Originally posted to cwsmoke on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:29 AM PDT.

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  •  President Obama leads Romney in this group (8+ / 0-)

    of registered, but unlikely voters by a substantial margin, well over 10%, If I remember correctly.  I posted something on this last week.

    Another, frequently cited reason was that they thought there vote wouldn't affect the outcome as they had read polls suggesting the margins for, or against, the candidates they favor were large enough that they didn't  see if worth the time, and trouble, out of their schedules when they didn't see the outcome being any different, if they voted.

    In this election, President Obama's sizable lead indicates we would have a sizable potential return on investment, if we could somehow motivate this group to vote.  But, the GOP seems to understand this as well, with their efforts to make voting as difficult and inconvenient as possible, with voter ID, and other suppression tactics, we will probably see the proportion of this registered, but marginal voters grow in size this election.

    Another possible implication of research into this group that needs more analysis is that our voter registration efforts may to be showing a diminishing marginal return on investment.  The majority of new registrations are listing affiliations as Independents.  

    This last point needs clarification, as I;m not suggesting we not try to register as many Democratic leading voters as possible, but rather suggesting that we may have a higher return on investment allocating our GOTV resources to actually getting registered voters motivated to vote, thatn registering people who have a high likelihood not showing up on election day -- just a hypothesis that needs more analysis.  

    The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

    by HoundDog on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 06:05:10 AM PDT

    •  I Diaried on non-voters, based on Nate Silver's (4+ / 0-)

      reporting of the polls concerned and a . Actually, the margin among the declared non-voters is much higher than that. First, a poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation and The Washington Post:

      Obama leads Romney by 52-40 among all adults in a recent poll. That's right. A twelve-point lead. But that includes a large fraction of those surveyed who are not registered to vote, or are registered but do not plan on voting in November.
      Also,
      Another poll this week, conducted by Suffolk University and USA Today, tried to get at that question. It surveyed 800 adults who either weren’t registered to vote, or who were registered but said they weren’t likely to turn out.

      Among these adults, 43 percent said they preferred Mr. Obama while 17 percent backed Mr. Romney. Since quite a few Americans fit into this category — about 4 in 10 American adults will not vote in November — it is easy to see how Mr. Obama could have a double-digit when they are added back into the total, like in the Kaiser Family Foundation poll.

      Yes. A 26-point spread. Two-thirds of these non-voters say they are registered to vote.

      If we can crack this nut, we can smoke the Republicans now and well into the future.

      Hey, Mitt! Thanks for ObamneyCare. http://www.healthcare.gov

      by Mokurai on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 12:44:53 PM PDT

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    •  Registered but Unlikely (2+ / 0-)
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      aka Democrats.  Always has been.  Why is this?

  •  I will being pulling a ballot this November, (2+ / 0-)
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    however it is highly likely that portions of it will be blank.
    If a democrat is in danger of losing to a republican or lesser democrat, I'll check the box. If not, I won't. I won't clutter my comment with the laundry list of why.

  •  Almost None of Those People Will Read This. (4+ / 0-)
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    When you see liberal activists and bloggers complaining about the Democratic message and motivational efforts, they're warning about this population, but they're not most of the ones who stay home on election day.

    Mainly these voters have been neglected by the party for years in either policy or messaging. The most devastating failure was neglecting to promote health reform and allowing the Republicans to convince seniors 2 years ago that Obamacare is cutting into Medicare. This year for the Presidential contest the Republicans only need to remind voters of ideas they established before.

    The Republicans understand what this means which is why they now run Presidential elections purely to motivate their own base, and they don't reach for moderates much any more. They can now win with their extremists.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 06:27:33 AM PDT

  •  Your title is not accurate (3+ / 0-)
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    according to the article you link, 90 million Americans who are eligible to vote won't bother doing so.

    It does not say that all of these people are registered, in fact I suspect that a good proportion of them are not.

    •  I read 90M as 90 thousand and thought there (2+ / 0-)
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      must be more than that! The correct number is 90MM to indicate 90 million, and that really is shocking.

      The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right. -- Judge Learned Hand, May 21, 1944

      by ybruti on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 09:10:15 AM PDT

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    •  Probably 90M unregistered eligible voters (3+ / 0-)
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      + another 30M registered voters won't vote.  We'll probably come in at around 56%, of eligible voters, lower than 2008.

      •  OK, I'll go ahead and cut and paste (5+ / 0-)
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        from the link to make it crystal clear that these are NOT registered voters:

        According to the Suffolk University-USA Today nationwide survey of unregistered and unlikely voters, 90 million citizens who are eligible to vote will not cast a ballot in the upcoming general election. That number is up ten million from the 2008 election, when the Barack Obama-Joe Biden ticket won about 70 million votes, while Republicans John McCain and Sarah Palin only secured about 60 million.

        David Paleologos, director of the Suffolk University Political Research Center, says those who tend not to vote are from the lower-income, younger, higher-minority and more religious segments of the population.

         "Although they have a predisposed positive feeling about Barack Obama, it's sort of trumped by their disdain for the political system, their sort of unyielding anguish for where they're at in their lives due to the bad economy and their general displeasure with the government, especially federal government," he tells OneNewsNow.

        the bad news is that 3 out of the 4 groups mentioned  (lower-income, younger, higher-minority) would probably vote Dem . . .

        But, of the 18 criteria mentioned in this diary, the only one that is really compelling is the SC and that's a bit esoteric for the average voter - most of the other options are a choice between "very bad" and "absolutely horrific"  apparently leaving 90 million Americans not giving a damn . . .  

        •  Thanks for the accurate correction. If raising (4+ / 0-)
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          taxes, killing the populace with pollution while they fry from climate change/global warming, and increasing everyone's healthcare costs doesn't get the non voters motivated, I don't know what will...

          Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students. - Berlioz

          by cwsmoke on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:34:15 AM PDT

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          •  Thanks, I appreciate correction (1+ / 0-)
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            cwsmoke

            although, in all honesty, unless someone votes, they really can't be called a "voter" . . . . (just saying, an more accurate title would be "90 million eligible Americans won't vote" or something like that).

            And for the issues you mention in this post - yes, I agree that the Repubs would be worse, and I (like virtually every other reader of this site) will dutifully go out and vote for the proverbial lesser of the evils this November.

            Unfortunately, the 90 million people mentioned in this diary have a difficult time figuring out why it's better to drink a glass full of water laced with only 65% cyanide with one containing 85% . . . .. .

        •  The polls I cited above state very clearly (2+ / 0-)
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          that it is not the case that they don't give a damn. They have mainly been convinced that their votes don't matter. We have to tell the story of coming together in numbers that do matter, and invite them to join the movement, not just to vote.

          Hey, Mitt! Thanks for ObamneyCare. http://www.healthcare.gov

          by Mokurai on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 12:51:40 PM PDT

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      •  About 60 million of them are registered to vote (2+ / 0-)
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        according to the poll I cited above.

        Hey, Mitt! Thanks for ObamneyCare. http://www.healthcare.gov

        by Mokurai on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 12:49:06 PM PDT

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    •  And many of those who show up on registration (2+ / 0-)
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      rolls have moved and registered somewhere else, or died.

      Our voter registration rolls are horribly inaccurate.

  •  all the more reason we will need to GOTV (2+ / 0-)
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    this election!!!!!!!

  •  A huge... (6+ / 0-)

    ..swath of people will not vote because they think by not voting they are "sticking to the Man."

    They think refusing to vote is a way to rebel against the system.  Which, in a way, I suppose it is.

    I was like this most of my life.

    I've only voted in 2 presidential elections:

    *1980 for John Anderson.

    *2008 for Barack Obama.

    I was just too pissed off with the system for almost 30 years to vote.

    But thanks to George W. Bush, I saw the error of my ways.  Thanks to W, for the rest of my life I will vote in most every election, & vote a straight Democratic ticket.

    Sometimes, takes a personal wake-up call to buy into the system & vote.

    I have no idea how to instill that wake-up call into millions of "rebels."

    Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate. ~ Proverbs 22:22

    by wyvern on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:05:15 AM PDT

    •  George Bush did the same for me after he was (2+ / 0-)
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      appointed. Suddenly I became extremely interested in political activism and remain so today. Many of my friends in Berkeley in the 1960s became so radicalized because they didn't believe that change was happening fast enough that they too dropped out, unwittingly helping the right, who never give up...

      Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students. - Berlioz

      by cwsmoke on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:40:20 AM PDT

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    •  Exactly (2+ / 0-)
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      The point I want to bring home is that you can "stick it to the man" by working for viable third parties, activism, etc. AND do your small part and cast a ballot. Its not an either-or thing. Go start a Green party chapter and try to get some Greens in local office, but still get your ass into the big polls and vote against the worst candidate (Romney.)

      I'm so sick and tired of these fanatical Christians and rednecks trying to disrupt MY life with their BS that I went looking for ways to volunteer for Obama's campaign. I reached a tipping point, and now I'm here to stay. If you can figure out a way to get these other people to their tipping points as well, then that would be a first step to getting them to care enough to at least cast a vote.

      •  I think a... (2+ / 0-)
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        ..tipping point was reach in a generational sense with Occupy Wall Street.

        But that leads back to the hipster mentality that embraces not voting as an act of social rebellion.

        Think if OWS has been a parallel voting drive movement, & the kids signing up to vote were determined to effect change via becoming left wing political activists, or Greens (anything but Republicans).

        Not only would Romney be doomed, but the whole conservative movement would be doomed.

        Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate. ~ Proverbs 22:22

        by wyvern on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 11:26:48 AM PDT

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        •  I personally think that Romney IS doomed (3+ / 0-)
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          because of his unfavorability numbers. In the long term the conservative movement is also doomed, mostly due to demographics and stupidity (the movie, "Idiocracy," notwithstanding).

          The Occupy movement which I support was handled quickly and tactically by an overaggressive police presence to keep it from openly spreading more, but the ideas are out there now, and it is difficult, if not impossible to put the genii back in the bottle...

          Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students. - Berlioz

          by cwsmoke on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 11:39:33 AM PDT

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          •  Yeah (1+ / 0-)
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            I support OWS.

            The last major pushes of that movement were more reactionary than anything. They were forced to defend their camps and such thanks to an overbearing police force that made all of the decent cops on the streets look like the enemy. I was disgusted with the countless videos of police shooting and pepper spraying these OWS activists.

            I still wish they didn't spend so long trying to re-occupy the camps and transform into a political movement. They could easily revitalize the Greens, or be a Tea Party (minus the Koch sucking) type pressure on Dems to shift left. Heck, if they wanted to really create the change they wanted, they could create a third party to split the Republican vote, get Dems in by a wide margin, and THEN for the coalitions/pressure to get money out of this political system. There are still options to fix this mess that we are in, but everyone has to get on the right page and play it smart from here on out. Simply protesting or camping isn't doing it anymore. The camping got the world's attention. Now OWS needs to do something with it.

            IDK if Conservatives are "doomed." It may be location bias, but NC is still filled with hardline Christians and rednecks. There is still a church on every corner in this town. The main drag in my town was still clogged for nearly a mile with the line for Chick-Fil-A drive-thru on August 1st. My state is still willing to take away civil rights by a double digit margin. To top it off, these people are really stupid, so they fall for slogans but can't understand simple charts and figures that prove said slogans wrong :(

            I need to get out of here! Thankfully there are a few people around (and you guys!) to keep me sane.

          •  Support the occupy movement? (0+ / 0-)
            The Occupy movement which I support was handled quickly and tactically by an overaggressive police presence to keep it from openly spreading more, but the ideas are out there now, and it is difficult, if not impossible to put the genii back in the bottle...
            I must have missed the  Obit, but I damn sure it's dead. Too Hot, Too Cold, Police Aggression, disorganized, listless support as the "movement " lost more and more support as the non-organizers organized the movement to be not organized so no one could be co-opted and no leaders could targeted.

            I wonder what Gandhi would have said to that approach?

            So tell me, how do you support a movement that has moved on?  

    •  Again, the polls show that (2+ / 0-)
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      sticking it to The Man is not the motive that keep these people home on election day. The primary reason is that they have been convinced that their votes do not matter.

      Republicans have no fear of voting for a lost cause, whether it is the ideals of the old Confederacy, the original Lost Cause, or the racism and bigotry of the Religious Right voting against the Antichrist. Because no matter how few they are, they know that God will smite their enemies and they will prevail, regardless of historical fact. It says so in the Bible, particularly in the story of Gideon, where God told him to send most of his army (those deemed insufficiently brave) home before the battle, so that it the result would further glorify God.

      So that's what they do. They have no problem with kicking out the moderates, and no problem voting as a minority, specifically in order to stick it to The Man, or as they know him, The Antichrist.

      Hey, Mitt! Thanks for ObamneyCare. http://www.healthcare.gov

      by Mokurai on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 12:57:06 PM PDT

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  •  Excellent diary (3+ / 0-)
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    I know of at least two people who are planning on not voting this election.

    I will send this to them and others in hope of swaying their opinion of politics, elections and its consequences.

  •  If voting changed anything they'd make it illegal. (4+ / 0-)

    (Mark Twain said that).

    Well, guess what?  Republicans ARE trying to make it illegall for millions of Americans to vote.

    That should tell you something!

  •  We can't beat the KOCH money (3+ / 0-)
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    The only way is "one bring three"--just one-on-one persuasion.

    There are half a million registered users here. Let's assume 60 percent are real and unique. If each real and unique user made a personal commitment to get three other weakly-motivated voters to the polls, the problem is solved.

    There are specific target groups, and not all are minorities. Young women generally HAVE licenses. They often can't imagine their right to their own bodies is at stake. They get busy.

    So where's our community spirit?

  •  Maybe if instead of (2+ / 0-)
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    focusing on scare tactics that are all focused on the scary Republicans you should give 18 honest reasons on how and why and what the Democrat's will implement if people voted Democratic. The choice between Koch Bros/ Bain vs Goldman Sach/Morgan Chase isn't really much incentive to get those 90 million to the polls.

    After voting will the Democrat's really implement democratic policy and governance? Right now all politics are nothing but extortion as in vote for us because if you don't your granny will be eating cat food. Fear isn't really effective when regardless of who wins we the people all lose. As my teacher friend who doesn't vote says not voting is my vote.

    How many first time voters I helped register for the Dems in 07-08 are going to return to vote? Not too many I'd say. Most know what the Republicans are but unfortunately the Democrat's regardless of populist rhetoric have just spent the last 4 years proving that they are just as useless, not as bat shit crazy but every bit as corrupt and ant-democratic.

    Other then aesthetically being better, they offer nothing other then they are worse. Then turn around and make grand bargains for the benefit of the owners of the place and expect people to believe that night is day.  Don't even get me started on what they have managed to do to our rule of law and so called foriegn policy.

    Those 90 million people may just know that they have no choice and that the better of two evils is still evil. My granddaughter who even though she was too young to vote worked for OFA, She actually believed the Dems were going to fight for we the people. She's not even going to register now that she's old enough. She says why should I it's rigged. You won't convince non voters with fear that only pisses people off and verifies their belief that voting isn't going to change a damn thing.

    Give these nonvoters something to vote for rather then bait and switch or victories for compromise and our bankster's vs theirs. I know how about some bottom up change you can believe in. Instead of giving us austerity for the profit of savvy businessmen and catfood commissions and endless wars.      

  •  I'd sign a DKOS pledge to both vote for President (2+ / 0-)
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    Obama and go out and register 3 new voters in my district.

    What percentage of registered DKOS users would do that?
    Trolls be damned of course.  How many would be with me (us?)

    The state voter registration deadlines are fast approaching.  If 90 million eligible non-voters is roughly accurate, then, possibly 1% of those 90 million could swing this election towards the Democrats.  In a purple state like mine that could be the difference between an Obama Presidency and the unthinkable alternative.

    Turnout will determine this election.  My progressive friends, we are going to be outspent in this election.  One recourse is for non-activists like myself to get off the fence and GOTV.  I'm ready.  I'm willing.  Somebody out there, teach me how to get started, and soon.  

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    by QDMacaw on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 12:32:44 PM PDT

  •  Voting day should be a national holiday. nt (4+ / 0-)
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    "I'm grateful for my job - truly, but still...ugh." CityLightsLover

    by Audri on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 12:50:21 PM PDT

  •  #11 (0+ / 0-)
    Greenhouse gases pumped into the atmosphere will increase, not decrease, causing global warming to reach an irreversible tipping point. The Keystone X/L pipeline will be built, causing what leading climate scientist, James Hansen calls, 'game over' with regard to man's efforts to halt or ameliorate climate change due to the negative effects of developing, transporting, and refining the tar sands oil.
    will most certainly happen even if Obama is re-elected, since his administration is quietly but expediently green-lighting the project. Good luck impressing people who know better by distinguishing between not giving a shit (Romney) and pretending to give a shit (Obama).

    My other car is a pair of boots.

    by FutureNow on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 01:15:01 PM PDT

    •  I thought that I made it clear that this (1+ / 0-)
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      diary was about what would transpire if Romney/Ryan get elected. The sun will still come up no matter who is elected. It is irrelevant. So bringing President Obama into this discussion accomplishes nothing toward getting eligible voters to the polls...

      Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students. - Berlioz

      by cwsmoke on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 01:39:25 PM PDT

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      •  Right - you were clear (0+ / 0-)

        Presumably you were drawing distinctions between two possible outcomes, so citing something that will happen either way is disingenuous. These were supposed to be reasoned positions, correct?

        My other car is a pair of boots.

        by FutureNow on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:22:45 PM PDT

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  •  Anotherrrrrr... list! (1+ / 0-)
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    Since the bulk of the list accelerated in a Democratically controlled Govt when there was an all out push to save the banks at pretty much the expense of everything else and no one yet has explained why that was necessary  down to the minute detail of not putting a single banker in prison which...

    1. Made a Mockery out of the Rule of Law: :  Not a word of this is mentioned by Democratic operatives as they push  the Presidents record as far away from viewing as possible in order to make the current President  less sucky than the current Challenger for President.  

    2. Corporate Tax Evasion: Has been legal for some time and was accelerated during the last four years as no viable  attempt was made to  bring the money stuffed in off-shore accounts home along with the jobs that stayed missing with them. A simple reversal of a few key tax policies, and tax remedies for showing a different set of books to the IRS than the one shown to investors would have been key in making certain that "Corporate Persons" paid some taxes. Even the mighty and Liberal favorite Apple has 90 Billion off shore they won't bring home to pay any taxes.

    3. Constitutional Rights Abrogated : I'll never forget the person who commented in the Obama Clinton wares in the 2008 primaries "I want a president who will protect my constitutional rights.

    Not only did this President set new precedents in the abrogation of constitutional rights, he brought an AG that was even worse than Gonzalez to help him do it. Would anyone ever have thought that a Dem President would make it legal to shoot an American citizen without trial or any due process rights here and abroad?  I wouldn't have. I would have given zero credibility to any claim that his AG would come out and say that it was legal and ,adding  a "Trust us" to his speech. Then seeing the same Democrats, who screamed about constitutional rights under Bush, respond with a resounding "Amen Brother".

    Turley: Well, President Obama outdid President Bush. He ordered the killing of two U.S. citizens as the primary targets and has then gone forward and put out a policy that allows him to kill any American citizen when he unilaterally determines them to be a terrorist threat. Where President Bush had a citizen killed as collateral damage, President Obama has actually a formal policy allowing him to kill any U.S. citizen.

    Cusack: But yet the speech that Eric Holder gave was greeted generally, by those others than civil libertarians and a few people on the left with some intellectual honesty, with polite applause and a stunning silence and then more cocktail parties and state dinners and dignitaries, back the Republican Hypocrisy Hour on the evening feed — and he basically gave a speech saying that the executive can assassinate U.S. citizens.

    Turley: That was the truly other-worldly moment of the speech. He went to, Northwestern Law School (my alma mater), and stood there and articulated the most authoritarian policy that a government can have: the right to unilaterally kill its citizens without any court order or review. The response from the audience was applause. Citizens applauding an Attorney General who just described how the President was claiming the right to kill any of them on his sole inherent authority.

    Cusack: Does that order have to come directly from Obama, or can his underlings carry that out on his behalf as part of a generalized understanding? Or does he have to personally say, “You can get that guy and that guy?”

    But you see, this has nothing to do with Medicare or Social Security. This was just a Prima Facie example of the President continuing The job Bush 11 started in tearing that "Goddamn piece of paper" to pieces.  The real question one has to ask themselves is if he doesn't care about the constitution as a former Constitutional Law Professor , why would he give two shits about Social Security or Medicare?

    4. Facism: Ahh yes the old argument about good vs evil  or is it Democrats are less sucky then GOPers if they let Corporations take hold of all that is dear and do nothing and I mean nothing at all. The Same AG who stood there and told people it's legal for the President to Kill Americans, couldn't find anything wrongwith the 615 page referral from Levin and Coburn regarding Goldman Sachs and refused to pursue it with a real "In-your-Face " public announcement essentially telling two Senators who did what Obama was so desperate to see happen; cross the aisle and work together only to be told after two years "Ya Got Nothing On Our Clients, Nothing! do Ya hear us?".

    So if what has the Bush and the GOP done that is actually worse than what Obama and the Democrats have done when it comes to the the Corporate Takeover of the USA.? I say the Democrats made that a done deal, so take it off your list , if ya wanna win.

    All of this is nothing but Curt and paste from elections past. Why not try something new this time. Tell the fucking truth.

    •  First, this is not a diary about elections past. (1+ / 0-)
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      This is a diary of what specifically will happen if Romney/Ryan get elected. This is not a comparison of us vs them diary. I agree that the Obama administration falls short in some areas, but this is not the discussion here. You are entitled to your comments, but you are sidetracking the theme of this diary. If you want to compare Dems and Republicans, go find a diary where that is the topic of discussion otherwise I'll just figure that you're hijacking the thread...

      Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students. - Berlioz

      by cwsmoke on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 03:22:24 PM PDT

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      •  Sidetracking, my ass (0+ / 0-)
        This is a diary of what specifically will happen if Romney/Ryan get elected.
        ...with the implicit suggestion that an Obama win would yield an alternate scenario. This is of course why voters make one choice or the other. If there are no alternate outcomes then there are no alternate choices to be made.

        If you are going to present a list of negative outcomes from a Romney administration, by definition it should be assumed, at least, to be distinct from what their opponent offers. If not, you're not making any case at all.

        My other car is a pair of boots.

        by FutureNow on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 08:54:43 PM PDT

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  •  Mort Sahl drew the same line (1+ / 0-)
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    back in the day, and placed the Dems right of center. But if you take both parties from back then and average them now: they'd be off-the- chart left. The centrist Jimmie Carter is now considered too left to permit mention. The post-November situation you describe would be intolerably unstable, somewhat like Buchanan's administration after Dred Scott, or Hoover's or Nixon's. Some plutocrats don't want that and could intervene, if the election becomes at all close. Re: fascism, if the Japanese and Germans had gradually invested in the U.S. rather than invest in world war II, they would own us by now. In 2009 the Senate opponents of the GM bailout defended the Japanese manuafacurers. When Bibi addressed Congress he received repeated standing ovations. This is how subversion works when it's working, gradually and with permission. Noone considers as being at all rational the suggestion that the Constitution's check and balance on the Court within the exceptions clause should be used to end CU's evisceration of democracy. The GOP is making a big mistake in seeking totalitarian control on behalf of the plutocracy, just as the South miscalculated in seceding on behalf of the slaveocracy.

    •  With regard to that horizontal line: (2+ / 0-)
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      It all depends upon who is doing the measuring. According to the right, we (Dems, progressives, liberals, socialists) are all Communists which is why I established a baseline in the 1950s-60s as a reference point. I haven't changed my political viewpoint, but everything on the line that I'm stationary on keeps getting dragged further right, sliding right past me. I've gone from a moderate to a Dem to a liberal to a progressive while standing still. The basis for the current political line is taken from the video linked to it.

      We absolutely need to replace the blue dog, corporate Dems with true Progressive Dems (and if that doesn't work then true Progressives, period) as I've been forever advocating, but that is for another day/diary...

      One thing about having money when you refer to the right's overeach, money doesn't mean intelligence which is fortunate for us.

      Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students. - Berlioz

      by cwsmoke on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 04:40:39 PM PDT

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  •  Three things about non-voters to consider (2+ / 0-)
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    1. Our elections are on a Tuesday. Because that's the day that farmers brought their goods to market in the 18th century.

    Yes, really, that's the reason.  Weekend voting, you add a whole lot of people.  Some states do it ("early voting"), some don't, some are trying to get rid of it (I can't imagine why - oh wait, yes, I can). Many people just don't have time to do it on a Tuesday.

    2. Electoral college.  Get rid of this, a lot more people would think their vote counts.  Unless you live in a swing state, you're not going to affect the Presidency.  Most Senate and Congressional races are foregone conclusions, at least in the general.  California has made a good move to open that up - the top two vote getters from the primaries compete in the general, regardless of party. So if its a reliably one-party district, the general features two candidates from that party.

    3. Many young people do not think they will eventually get old.  Quite a few, perhaps most, think they'll be dead instead.  I had that mind-set for much of my 20s.  Not healthy, but it did result in some amazing adventures that no sane person would have undertaken.

    (Which is an additional reason to have friends around that have known you for many years.  When I start telling some of those stories, and people go, "You can't be serious, you didn't really..." I have friends there who will laugh and say, oh yes, he did, and we even met one of the girls when he brought her to our wedding...).

    •  That was MY plan. (2+ / 0-)
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      Live fast, die young. Unfortunately, (for the plan, but not me) I didn't die.

      The reason that I wrote this diary was to jar people who don't really take the time to figure out what will happen until after the election...

      Sure, the electoral system needs revising to reflect the actual population density since currently (I forget the actual figures) roughly 20% of the population has 50% of the representation.

      Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students. - Berlioz

      by cwsmoke on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:47:58 PM PDT

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  •  Dems need to steer the issue away from (1+ / 0-)
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    Voter fraud to Election rigging.  The first case is the election administrator in Kenosha County, WI using Microsoft Access to tally the votes.

    A better way is to gin up the paper trail controversy again.  Invoke Florida and Ohio and George W. Bush's stolen elections.  That's what Repubs do:  repeat the same allegations over again until everyone believes them to be true because they've been repeated many times.

    Assert that George W. Bush is not a legitimate president because of stolen elections just like those kooks say that Obama is a Kenyan, Socialist, Fascist, Communist who was not born in America.

    Sadly America is actually now a third-world Banana republic because of "Voter ID".  But we can change it if we shift the Overton Window to the other side of the election process!

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    by movingforward on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 07:12:45 PM PDT

    •  If we could get those 90 Million voters to (1+ / 0-)
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      vote, there would be a Democratic landslide, and the Overton Window would shift so fast that it would break...

      Fortunately, the stupid is spreading, one red state at a time. All we have to do at the moment apparently is to let the Teahadists talk on the national stage instead of tucked away from microphones and the limelight in their local elections.

      I agree that the only way the Republicans can win right now is to lie, cheat, hate and fear monger, and supress the vote. And why is there no press (oh yeah, the corporate media) about programming the Diebold voting machines in Ohio in 2004 to steal the election?

      Someone needs to bang the drum hard as you said.

      Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students. - Berlioz

      by cwsmoke on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 07:28:43 PM PDT

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  •  All true and well written but (1+ / 0-)
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    you're preaching to the choir here.

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    by JamieG from Md on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 07:22:36 PM PDT

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