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Not all capitalists are vampires.  There are business people I know and admire, people who care about their companies, take pride in the work they do, and feel a responsibility toward the people who work for them.  Okay.  Good.  But there is another aspect of American life, a recurring and corrosive experience of the kind of corporate/ business culture that is a cross between a gigantic bulldozer – something that just keeps on grinding mechanically forward, destroying whatever gets in its way – and a vampire.  Their lust for money is like a lust for blood, irrational and deadly, and they suck the life out of everything.  Gladly.  Triumphantly.  It feeds their lust, which has no end.

The Sioux Nation is a group of related tribes of plains Indians – Nakota, Dakota, and Lakota.  They have related cultures, intertwined history, and a devotion to the Black Hills as the sacred heart of their world.  And, they believe, of the whole Earth.   Other Indian nations feel a deep connection to the Black Hills too: the Crow, Arapaho, Cheyenne, and others.  The Lakota, who live so close to the Black Hills, have a particular sense of responsibility for protecting it.

There are five sites in the Black Hills that are especially important, that are sacred.  They’re the sites of a yearly pilgrimage of prayer and ceremony, each site visited when the constellations are in the right place.  The Black Hills were stolen from the Indians by treaty violation.  Part is now considered federal land and part owned by individuals.    But still, every year, the Sioux make their pilgrimages to the five sacred sites, at the appointed times, making ceremony not only  for their own peoples, “so that our children may live,” but for the good of all peoples, for the balance and harmony of the Earth.  The most important of the five sites is called Pe Sla.  It’s the center of the heart of the world.  The land Pe Sla is on is held by a family of ranchers, but for generations they have allowed the Indians to come onto the land to do ceremony.

But now, on short notice, the land is to be sold.  Auctioned off this Saturday, to developers.

Now the Sioux are standing between Pe Sla and the Bulldozer, which is grinding its deadly way into the Heart of the World, headed right for Pe Sla.  Which it will dig up and pave over and build pricy houses on, and sell to wealthy “owners,” and effectively destroy.

What, hadn’t there been enough outrages?  Enough theft, enough lies, enough attacks on these people, on their culture and spirituality and love of the land?  But no, it wasn’t that someone particularly wanted to hurt the Sioux.  Not at all.  It was just that someone – or Something – doesn’t care one dead rat’s worth about what harm might came to the Sioux, or to the land.  It’s just that the Vampire-Dozer in the form of rich developers with rich clients in mind had caught the heady scent of blood – of money – in a near-pristine section of the ancient and haunting Black Hills.

So.  What now?

By any rational calculation, nothing but the obvious.  The Vampire-Bulldozer wins.

Come below the break and let’s consider that that a little further.

This is the link to the diary Meteor Blades wrote about Pe Sla Monday night; it has more background and information.  

THe Sioux didn’t know this sale was going to happen until the very last minute.  That seems to have been by design.  Now they're trying to find a way to save at least something.  Meteor Blade's diary includes a video by Chase Iron Eyes (Standing Rock Sioux), asking for what help people may be able to give.

So, my relatives, we are asking for your help, we’re asking for your prayers, whether you’re indigenous or not -- we feel that everybody is indigenous, that our spirits and our intrinsic values want to respect the universe.  And so we’re asking for your help to protect this place, to buy back as much of it as we can…to protect this place for the benefit of humanity.
There's a link for contributions.  They’ve gotten a good response for starting so late – over $160,000 in just a few days.   A good response.   And the Rosebud Sioux are adding $50,000 – a major contribution from a reservation burdened by grinding poverty.  Other Sioux groups will contribute too.  But the total doesn’t yet come anywhere near even the minimum needed to buy juicy land that the developers are salivating over. And time is so short.  The deadline is Thursday at midnight.  On Friday, the money will need to be transferred to the Rosebud Sioux Tribal government, which is acting as fiscal agent for all the Sioux peoples in the Saturday bidding.

The whole area up for sale, 1900 acres, might cost as much as $10 million.  It’s broken into tracts, which can be bought separately.

The smallest tract that will be offered contains the most crucial area, Pe Sla.  At the price ranch land usually goes for, it would cost about $800,000.  That’s a reachable goal, if money keeps coming in.  But the area around Pe Sla won’t go for ranch prices.  It’ll go for developer prices, and that puts the estimated cost at around $3 million.

That doesn’t mean there’s no hope at all.  It’s barely conceivable, if some wealthy supporters weigh in, that the Sioux might be able to put down the required 10% at the auction, knowing that the rest of the money will be there in the required time.  Or a foundation might offer a bridge loan that the Sioux can pay back over time. There are Kossacks (Kay Observer2 and others) working to contact foundations and rich individuals.   I’m sure there are Sioux doing the same thing.  Maybe, just maybe, there’ll be enough for at least the smallest, most crucial tract.

So please, give if you can.  There’s no guarantee it’ll be enough, but it might happen.  These funds flowing in over the internet just might be needed to tip the balance.

And If the people of the Great Sioux Nation are going to have their Heartland ripped away from them this coming Saturday  -- damn.  At least let them know there are some people who care.

But the joker in this deck, the weird, ironic, tangled-American-history joker, is that the federal government has a billion dollars – ONE BILLION DOLLARS – in a trust fund for the Sioux, specifically to compensate them for the theft of the Black Hills.

It was originally 100 million dollars, awarded by the Supreme Court forty years ago.  And the Sioux nations turned it down.  They knew if they took it that would be considered  a surrendering of their claims to the Black Hills.  Pressured and impoverished as those peoples have been, they answered with one voice.  “The Black Hills are not for sale.”

Every year the government offers them the money.  Every year they say, “The Black Hills are not for sale.”  Held in trust, with compound interest, the money has grown to a billion dollars.

But now, though the Black Hills are not for sale, they’re trying to ransom, to buy back, at least a small piece of them.  What better use of part of that trust fund than to ransom the most sacred center of the Black Hills, free it from the scrabbling of the vampire capitalists with their dreams of McMansions, and return it to its rightful caretakers?  I don’t know how much can be done on short notice, but I know the feds did something at least generally similar once, when the Interior Department bought land for the Cheyenne.

But time is so short. And the government moves slowly.  Congress is out of session, agencies are in their August doldrums.  Obama is campaigning, and probably doesn’t even know this is happening.

Too damned many people don’t know this is happening, or don’t know that anyone cares.

So let’s do what Kossacks do best.

Let’s make some noise.

Let’s flood the White House, and  the Interior Department, and the Justice Department, with calls and emails.  Especially the White House.  And Bill Clinton’s Foundation (which has access to a whole lot of money).  And news media – that couldn’t do any harm.  And the South Dakota Senators’ and Governor’s offices.   It couldnt hurt for them to know that the rest of the country is noticing this.

Tell the White House and the federal agencies that this situation requires an injunction – by Friday! – to delay the sale.  Because the title is clouded, and those most interested were not given time to prepare a bid.

The Black Hills were stolen.  The Supreme Court said so.  They awarded the Sioux Nation money, but they don’t want money.    They want the Black Hills, safe and undeveloped.   So our government needs to BUY BACK at least this 1900 acres of the Black Hills and return it to the Sioux.  Or hold it in trust for them until the details of a settlement can be negotiated.  The ranchers will get their money, the Sioux will get at least part of their rights, and the bloodsucking developers can go fish.  THE MONEY IS THERE.  It’s been waiting for forty years.  Now is the time.  Figure out how to make it happen.  That’s what government is for.

Yes, we know there are a thousand thousand rules about this kind of thing.  But there has to be some justice too.  There has to be some justice.  Demand that our government figure out how to make it happen.

People, I  don’t know that we can carry this off, that we can affect a damn thing in so short a time.  But we never know, do we?  We may chant “Yes We Can” all day long, but we never really know if we’re going to make a difference in any particular struggle.  But we know that sometimes we do.  Sometimes, improbably, we help make history.  So we have to try.

If the Sioux Nation risks losing their beloved Heartland this Saturday, let it not be in silence.  The vampires love silence.  It feeds them and drives them on.  Let there be witnesses, let there be voices raised, let there be a demand that those in authority do what elected authorities are supposed to do, and make this right.

Make it right.

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White House:
Phone:  Comments:  202-456-1111

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E-mails to the Department of Justice, including the Attorney General:
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  •  Tip Jar (21+ / 0-)

    --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

    by Fiona West on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 09:15:03 AM PDT

  •  All capitalists are vampires (1+ / 3-)
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    What you described, people who work at managing a business, are not capitalists. Capitalists lend money for profit, period, full stop. If you make most of your income from investments, you are a capitalist. If you make your money from working, and managing is definitely working, then you are a worker, not a capitalist.

    •  Capitalism is sharing for profit (2+ / 0-)
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      It's a system that lets people pool their resources to undertake a venture beyond any of their individual means. It opens up the rewards of business to those who don't yet have huge fortunes to invest. Without it, only the super-rich or the politically well-connected could ever benefit from large-scale trade or industry.

      It's a tool, and it can can be used by the workers or against them. Without regulation by a strong government, permanent corporations can run wild and destroy the people. With transparency, regulation and accountability, it allows workers individually, or through their union, to own their workplace.

      Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

      by chimpy on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:10:06 AM PDT

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      •  Sharing? Uh, no. (0+ / 0-)

        Lending is not sharing, and capitalism involves lending for profit, not sharing! People do not "pool their resources"  (that sounds so socialist) they lend money to other people. Whether that money is "pooled" is entirely beside the point. The idea that capitalism lets workers own their workplace is adorably naive. In the real world, capitalism lets vampires engineer recurring financial crises that remove all accumulated wealth from the working class.

        There are practically an infinite number of systems that would let workers own their work place without involving lending for profit. Islam considers lending for profit a sin, for instance, and so no true Muslim is a capitalist. Lending for profit is illegal in most Muslim financial systems.

        •  You describe investment banking (1+ / 0-)
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          Lending for profit is one way to get funds into a venture, but it's not a necessary feature of capitalism. In the real world, many things fall short of their ideals. Without capitalism, the same businesses would persist, but would merely be privately held by wealthy families. It falls on us to counter the power of businesses with the power of government, irrespective of those businesses' ownership.

          As I understand, lending at a fixed rate to make some profit on top of an expected risk is what Islam prohibits. Buying shares in a venture to share in both the actual risk and reward is allowed.

          Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

          by chimpy on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:34:50 AM PDT

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          •  Huh? (1+ / 0-)
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            I don't see how that follows. What about partnerships? Perfectly serviceable business model, requires no lending for profit, allows the little guy to pool resources.

            You are right about Islam, in that you can buy shares in a venture but not lend for excess profit (some profit to cover expected risk is, of course, a feature of any system that allows lending at all. It might not get called "profit" though.)

            Originally, with the VOC, (first corporation, the Dutch East India Company) the whole thing was supposed to last for a fixed period and then the VOC was supposed to buy back shares from the investors. Never happened. Pretty much all the other original checks and balances to corporate power got thrown out, too.

            The problem with the corporate structure, and the moral hazard of limited liability, is a whole other kettle of fish, however. My issue here is the way the modern world has enshrined the sin of usury as the financial and moral center of our society. And thus my rant about capitalism, as opposed to a rant about corporations (which I can provide, if you like.)

        •  This explains why the economies of Islamic (0+ / 0-)

          countries are so robust and their peoples so wealthy, healthy and wise.

          Where are we, now that we need us most?

          by Frank Knarf on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:48:06 AM PDT

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          •  Does it now? (0+ / 0-)

            Are you being sarcastic and insulting Muslims here? Do you know anything about Muslim banking and lending practices? Just trying to get in a "Screw you buddy, capitalism ROCKS! WOOOO!"

            I'm a little confused as to your motivations.

            •  Sarcasm, certainly. Directed at your oddly (0+ / 0-)

              cramped view of the term "capitalism".

              As for Islamic banking, some of the contortions used to avoid the appearance of usury remind me of how observant Jews manage sabbath restrictions, e.g. elevators that stop at every floor so one does not have to push a button.

              Where are we, now that we need us most?

              by Frank Knarf on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 11:59:23 AM PDT

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              •  True, the contortions are amusing (0+ / 0-)

                But the need to go through those contortions limits the amount of profit the average Muslim can take without social ostracism. As a result, Muslims do not revere valueless rent-seeking in the same way we do.

                My "cramped" view of capitalism is based on the definition of the word. We have other words for other parts of our economic system, such as "free market," there is no need to wrap it all up in a pretty package and call that package "capitalism." To do so legitimizes the rent-seeking vampires who do nothing to improve society. And that, of course, is their aim, and why they want you to conflate our economic system with "capitalism."

                •  I don't think Marx, Weber, Keynes and all the rest (1+ / 0-)
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                  who wanted to discuss the organization of production, or the nature of social relations, or attitudes about progress and stability were trying to obfuscate the nature or meaning of capitalism.

                  Where are we, now that we need us most?

                  by Frank Knarf on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 01:14:11 PM PDT

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                  •  Please be more clear (0+ / 0-)

                    You seem to be saying that my analysis of capitalism runs counter to what, specifically, "Marx, Weber, Keynes and all the rest" say about capitalism. I had no idea that opinion on the subject was so united. Please, do tell, how exactly my opinions differ from "all the rest."

                    I find it odd that you can so easily name those who disagree with me (which is evidently everyone!) yet you can not describe how they disagree. I think that is simply THE most empty appeal to authority I have yet witnessed, and I've been online since the '80s.

                    •  To clarify, there is obviously a great deal of (0+ / 0-)

                      variety in the views of those I mentioned and those many others I alluded to, the point being that none of them tried to narrow the definition to a single aspect of financial practice, as you seem to advocate.  But perhaps I have not understood your position.

                      I don't understand why you would construe this as an appeal to authority.  Is it really necessary to cite references to all of the notable commentaries on capitalism over the past two centuries in order to point out how narrow your particular definition is by contrast?

                      Where are we, now that we need us most?

                      by Frank Knarf on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 02:33:46 PM PDT

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                      •  Dude, just naming a bunch of economists (0+ / 0-)

                        Without context, is not an argument. Here, let me demonstrate with physicists:

                        "Einstein, Hawking, Feynman and all the rest would disagree."

                        Disagree with WHAT?!? I've said absolutely nothing, made no point, advanced no thesis. I've just invoked context-free the names of a bunch of experts in the field. Perhaps I am thinking someone who is a moron would see those names and go "OOOh, a bunch of experts in the field agree with him and disagree with that other guy. The other guy must be wrong!"

                        Uh, wrong about WHAT though?!?

                        See, you brought up those names as an appeal to authority. You claimed they all would disagree with me, without saying how. I can't think of a more clear-cut, textbook example of appeal to authority.

                        Yes, it is necessary, if you are trying to make an argument, to actually make an argument. I can't believe I am actually having to explain this to a presumably full grown adult human.

                        •  Sigh, I give up. You are correct, capitalism is (0+ / 0-)

                          only about lending money at interest.  It has nothing to do with the structure of production, ownership of various asset classes, social relations and class behavior, cultural attitudes concerning progress, or anything else.  Just usury.  Anyone who takes the time to study economics, history, philosophy and sociology must agree.

                          All that stuff that Marx and Engels and Weber and Keynes and Galbraith and all those other names I used to use in my pathetic appeals to authority had to say is utter BS.

                          Where are we, now that we need us most?

                          by Frank Knarf on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 03:15:23 PM PDT

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                    •  Seth, I hrd to hide this thread (1+ / 0-)
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                      this is not appropriate to threadjack despite the title in this fund raising diary, I can't forward this to organizations that can and do help with this kind of screed in it, however I may or may not agree with you.

                      Like it or not, it's not helpful to bag on people with lots of money to donate ...the reality today.

                      Sorry...I hope that whoever recced your comment withdraws them and we can get enough, just enough hr's to hide the thread.

                      This machine kills Fascists.

                      by KenBee on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 02:50:29 PM PDT

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                      •  Wait, WHAT? (0+ / 0-)

                        That is so seriously against site rules, I don't even know what to say.

                        And where, exactly, am I bagging on "people with lots of money to donate?!?"

                        And how is this a "screed?" I am having a civil conversation!

                        And who appointed you thread police?

                        •  Margin racing (1+ / 0-)
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                          Getting a little narrow here at the right margin, but in short: It started relatively civilly, if we don't count the accusation of all those with investment income of being reanimated corpses who hunt living humans for their blood. I apologize to the community for encouraging further discussion of the matter. But then you and Knarf got into a pointless and counterproductive squabble about a topic better resolved elsewhere. Some would like to forward a link of this story to friends, but would be embarrassed to have them come in and find us bickering about the nature of capitalism and religion's relation to banking. Finally you say "I don't even know what to say," but continue.

                          Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

                          by chimpy on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 03:12:20 PM PDT

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                          •  Okay... (1+ / 0-)
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                            But HRs are not to be used to censor ideas one finds inconvenient. A quick request by the diary's author would have been enough to put a stop to my participation, I can see how this looks like a threadjack even though I did not mean it to be. And I did not mean to characterize all those with investment income as vampires, only those who do not contribute in any other way. Funny, I thought a robust discussion of ideas was a hallmark of progressive thought.

                          •  One HR won't have any effect (1+ / 0-)
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                            So, don't worry about that. But, once you've gone a few replies into an off-topic comment thread, then it's usually worth starting a new diary on the topic. Having a robust discussion means being able to find the discussion you're looking for, and lots of people came here for something besides a lesson on capitalism, banking, Islam or comment etiquette.

                            Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

                            by chimpy on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 03:24:40 PM PDT

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                          •  Noted, and thanks for explaining politely (2+ / 0-)
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                            I wasn't even thinking about the fundraising aspect and for that I apologize. I just saw the vampires comment and felt the need to add my two cents. I figure somebody needs to represent the rabid anti-capitalists, if only for the Overton Window effect.

                          •  didn't see it until way too late (1+ / 0-)
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                            but your first comment was already at the top.. ...this was an action diary Seth, not someplace for us to debate all this...not speaking for Fiona.

                            I can't forward the diary to the rich foundation I am distantly related too.
                            I'll copy and paste the diary and a couple of comments.

                            hiding the thread won't hurt you at all.

                            write a diary on the topic, obviously people have things to say about it.

                            who appointed me diary police? really?
                            kos did.
                            as are you.

                            This machine kills Fascists.

                            by KenBee on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 03:34:06 PM PDT

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                          •  We're cool, sorry for the threadjack (2+ / 0-)
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                            It wasn't intentional. I'll try to be more sensitive to context in the future.

                          •  I'm delighted you want to send the (2+ / 0-)
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                            diary to your distant relatives.  It's good to cast a wide net!

                            Copy and pasting the diary, and some comments if you wish, sounds like a great way to go.

                            There's also MB's diary, linked to in mine just after the break.  It has a calmer tone and no vampires, if that seems better.  :)

                            --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

                            by Fiona West on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:11:24 PM PDT

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      •  in theory (1+ / 0-)
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        but there very very wealthy have found a way to put themselves in management position, than loot the companies ripping off the shareholders to benefit the few in charge and their buddies.

        fact does not require fiction for balance (proudly a DFH)

        by mollyd on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:21:22 AM PDT

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    •  I'm the sole owner and sole employee of my biz. (2+ / 0-)
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      I make most of my cash in return on my opening investment. I take out a wee bit in payroll check form, and most of it in quarterly profit disbursement. ( Technically, I'm sole shareholder, and the only employee.) My accountant likes it that way, and I do what I'm told.

      I make most of my income from an investment. The primary purpose of this investment was to realize a personal profit, while I'm told that I do provide valuable service to he community.

      Am I a vampire? 80% of a vampire?

      •  No, just a tax dodger ;) (0+ / 0-)

        You are realizing a profit on money you loaned to yourself. This is actually created through your own hard work, not lending for a profit. Obviously. Do I need to explain why this is so? I hope not.  

        The reason you have structured your business that way, and pay yourself a minimal hourly wage, is so you can avoid paying the higher tax rate. You are not actually lending yourself money for profit. The "profit" is actually created through your work, and would more reasonably be called your income from working. But you (understandably) don't want to pay the higher tax rate.

      •  No, you're not a vampire. Which is why I began (2+ / 0-)
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        by acknowledging that not all capitalists are vampires. I meant that.  If you can make a personal profit from an investment, while providing a service to the community at the same time, that's great.  You go.  That's the kind of synergistic economics -- good for everyone -- that we need to see more of.

        But vampire capitalism, an obsession with profit in total disregard of any other value, and a complete, almost inhuman indifference to what is destroyed in the process, is a strong force in our society.

        --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

        by Fiona West on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 01:14:17 PM PDT

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    •  somethings belong to those (4+ / 0-)
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      that love them and should be owned. But in the case ownership is the only method of preservation.

      interesting discussion of our economic system, but not really relevant

      fact does not require fiction for balance (proudly a DFH)

      by mollyd on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:24:38 AM PDT

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    •  So you want to borrow money without paying (0+ / 0-)

      interest?  Or you just don't want to borrow money?  You intend to operate on cash flow only?

      Where are we, now that we need us most?

      by Frank Knarf on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:52:28 AM PDT

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      •  Usury, regulation, unfair profits (0+ / 0-)

        I'm saying, rent seeking is bad. Agree or disagree? Lending money for an unfair amount of profit is bad and wrong, and most major world religions agree. I think windfall profits should be taxed at something approaching 90%.

        Lending money for a reasonable profit is not bad or wrong, reasonable profit being defined as "That which compensates for the actual risk level." But basing our entire society on rent seeking and limited liability just seems like a recipe for disaster. And guess what we see, in a perpetually recurring  cycle?

  •  Already donated (6+ / 0-)

    Now, urging others to donate, too. :)

    Speak the truth, but ride a fast horse.

    by Deep Harm on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 09:48:56 AM PDT

    •  ditto n/t (3+ / 0-)
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      worthy cause

      fact does not require fiction for balance (proudly a DFH)

      by mollyd on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:15:13 AM PDT

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      •  Thank you, Deep Harm and mollyd. (3+ / 0-)
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        Getting the word out to others is really, really important.

        There are a number of people out there who would WANT to donate to this cause, who would want to show solidarity with the Sioux Nation and respect for an ancient culture and belief system --  and simply to protect the remaining undisturbed lands in the Black Hills -- if they had any idea this was happening.

        It's really been a stealth operation.

        --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

        by Fiona West on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 01:41:41 PM PDT

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  •  ty, fw; ty, ty. r/c (3+ / 0-)
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    You can hold an opinion, or a grudge, or a stock, or a picket sign. But the time really to be at your best Is when you hold the hand of a trusting child.

    by renzo capetti on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 09:56:33 AM PDT

  •  $193.6k @ 38 hrs to go (5+ / 0-)

    With update from campaign last night:

    Today, in the Rapid City Journal and the AP News, the media reported that the Rosebud Sioux Tribe has allocated $1.3 million to purchase the privately owned land, Pe’ Sla, Lakota sacred site. While this is exciting and makes us as a team hopeful, the possible purchase price of all 2000 acres of Pe’ Sla available for purchase is possibly $6 to $10 million dollars. Our Pe’ Sla Campaign team goal of $1 million is intended to supplement the contributions of the 7 Council Fires of the Great Sioux Nation.

    Yet, we also know that most of the bands of the Great Sioux Nation are made up of communities that are currently living in the poorest counties in the nation. Please continue to fundraise and share our team’s campaign! What if your church was for sale? What if Bethlehem or Jerusalem or your Mosque was threatened by destruction or an auction? What would you do? Help us save our sacred lands!!

    Pe’ Sla! The Center – The Heart of All That Is! Thank you for all your help! Pilamaye! Sara Jumping Eagle

    Let's chip in our small donations to encourage foundations, close the gap to buy all the tracts, and show a reliable donor base for paying down a loan.

    Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

    by chimpy on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:00:53 AM PDT

  •  Can anyone provide a link to the early history of (0+ / 0-)

    various tribes in the Black Hills?  I would like to understand how the Sioux traditions regarding sacred sites there developed after they seized the region from earlier occupants, assuming that is what happened.

    Where are we, now that we need us most?

    by Frank Knarf on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 11:15:20 AM PDT

  •  Update: UN speaks (3+ / 0-)
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    UN human rights expert calls on US
    to consult with indigenous people over land sale

    22 August 2012 – A United Nations independent expert today called on the United States Government and authorities in the state of South Dakota to start consultations with indigenous people on a land sale that will affect a site of spiritual significance to them.

     Five tracts of land in the Black Hills area in South Dakota are scheduled to be auctioned on Saturday. The tracts lie within a site sacred to the Lakota, Dakota and Nakota peoples, known Pe’ Sla, said the UN Special Rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, James Anaya, in a news release issued by the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR).


    “The views and concerns of the Lakota, Dakota and Nakota peoples need to be considered regarding any private or Government activity that would affect their right to continue to maintain their traditional cultural and ceremonial practices associated with Pe’ Sla,” Mr. Anaya stressed.

    Total so far is $203k, and deadline appears to have been moved back.

    Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

    by chimpy on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 12:31:19 PM PDT

    •  Thank you -- I hadnt heard about the UN statement (3+ / 0-)
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      at all.  I'm glad to hear it, and will certainly call the White House about it.

      WHat an amazing concept.  Consult with indigenous people about a sale!  As if money were not the only legitimate power.  Hmmm ... Maybe we could somehow apply that concept to our elections?

      --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

      by Fiona West on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 01:23:24 PM PDT

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      •  Update on deadline extension (3+ / 0-)
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        From Pe' Sla campaign:

        As you have noted,the Fight for Pe’ Sla Campaign Team has decided to extend our fundraising deadline in order to raise more funds towards our goal of $1 million dollars. We are in direct collaboration with the Leaders of the Great Sioux Nations (Lakota/Dakota/Nakota) and have made this decision with their agreement as well. This is especially timely given the announcement yesterday, by the Sicangu Nation, the Rosebud Sioux Tribe, of their allocation of $1.3 million towards saving Pe’ Sla.

        This change in our fundraising deadline is also timely given todays press release by the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, Professor James Anaya. ...

        Pilamaye! Thank you!
         Mitakuye Oyasin, We are All Related!
         Chase Iron Eyes, Dana Lone Hill, Ruth Robertson-Hopkins, Sara Jumping Eagle

        No more details in the update, but my interpretation is that the $1.3M satisfies their ability to participate in the acution. Further donations would be needed later to close the sale, and that's where the 17 days comes from.

        So ... $206k with 17 days to go.

        Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

        by chimpy on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 01:43:28 PM PDT

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        •  Yay! That's great! I don't know exactly how the (3+ / 0-)
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          17-day thing would work, but the fact that they have more time for fundraising is huge!

          Wow, 17 days.  It feels like a vast stretch of time, given that we've been thinking in terms of 85 hours... 56 hours... etc.

          Are you planning to diary this?  If not, I will, either this evening or tomorrow morning.  (Unless Meteor Blades does first.)

          I'm touched that the Rosebud Sioux have raised their contribution from $50,000 to $1.3 million.  I'm sure that's money that was already needed for other things.

          So, with the internet funds, they have $1.5 million (at least) before the auction.  And more to come!

          --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

          by Fiona West on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 02:05:30 PM PDT

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          •  I look forward to your next diary (2+ / 0-)
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            I had been on the lookout for another MB diary, when I saw yours instead. My schedule is too irregular to plan a diary in advance, especially on time-critical things like this, but I'll drop updates in when I hear them. I'll be away from modern communications technology for most of this afternoon and tonight, though.

            That $1.3M is great news! It's the difference between just barely qualifying to bid on one tract, and putting a decent downpayment on the whole site. Buying us extra time to round up donations is also a big help.

            Oh, and $207k now.

            Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

            by chimpy on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 02:14:00 PM PDT

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            •  Thanks. It may be later tomorrow than I'd thought- (1+ / 0-)
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              my schedule is looking a little rocky too.

              But it'll be a simple update, with these encouraging developments, and hopefully people will be energized to keep our contributions coming.  I'm deeply happy to see that the internet contrbutions bring the Rosebud contribution up to the $1.5 million mark -- crossing the threshold into having enough to put down a 10% deposit on the whole 1900 acres, if the price doesn't go even higher than the guy at the auction house expected.

              Our contributions really can make a difference here.

              --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

              by Fiona West on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 09:58:34 PM PDT

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          •  A diary is coming tomorrow. n/t (4+ / 0-)

            Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

            by Meteor Blades on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 09:08:32 PM PDT

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  •  "We humans have power, but we don't know it." (3+ / 0-)
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    See interview with Chief Arvol Looking Horse at Truthout (link via Chase Iron Eyes, because truthout site had database error when I tried it):


    Chief Arvol Looking Horse Calls for Unity


    "Sundance happens at Pe' Sla," said Looking Horse. "Other ceremonies that our spiritual leaders must perform happen at Pe' Sla."


    "At Pe' Sla we give energy, as the whites call it; that is what our ceremonies do," said Looking Horse. "We humans have power, but we don't know it. ..."

    "We need to come together to protect Pe' Sla," said Looking Horse. "All tribes, even though we went to war with each other at times, in our history. ..."

     "Our tribes are here to protect our people," he said. "We need to stand up. We have always stood strong for our sovereignty, for our territory. We are the First Nations of Turtle Island. We are the original people of this continent based on our spiritual connections with the Black Hills, Pe' Sla, and all the sacred sites on Turtle Island."


    Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

    by chimpy on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 02:05:57 PM PDT

  •  I just found this diary (2+ / 0-)
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    Thanks for writing it and if I had seen it yesterday I would have promoted it.

    Sorry about that.

  •  Update on auction status (3+ / 0-)

    Saturday, August 25th, 2012 @ 10:00 a.m.
    Approx. 1942 Acres of Prime Beautiful Black Hills Ranchland
     South of Deadwood & Lead, South Dakota
     Northwest of Hill City, South Dakota
     Auction to be held at: Ramkota Inn - Rapid City, SD
     Click Here For Directions

     Leonard & Margaret Reynolds - Owners

    NEW - Click Here To View Video of the Ranches
    NEW - Click Here To View Brochure
    Click Here to View Pictures of Reynolds Prairie
    Click Here to View Sale Flyer
    Click Here to View Individual Tract Maps
    Click Here to View Tract Legal Descriptions

    Withdrawn to change date, terms, or tract boundaries? Cancelled completely? Hope to hear more soon.

    Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

    by chimpy on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 12:33:59 PM PDT

  •  Holy cow, Rosebud is stepping forward a LOT more. (1+ / 0-)
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    From one of the updates on the collection site.

    ...This is especially timely given the announcement yesterday, by the Sicangu Nation, the Rosebud Sioux Tribe, of their allocation of $1.3 million towards saving Pe’ Sla.
  •  Auction cancelled (for now?), campaign continuing (0+ / 0-)

    Latest update from the campaign:


    Pe Sla has been taken off the auction block. However, the property is publicly listed. The Tribes of the Great Sioux Nation are moving forward on their own behalf with Lastrealindians, Inc. in continuing to raise money to ensure Pe’ Sla will be protected as a sacred site, forever.

    Updates will continue as more information becomes available.

    We still don't know what the family plans to do with the land, but at least this seems to buy some time to make a deal (arrange financing, gradual transfer of tracts, or leaseback of some inholdings to the family for approved uses, etc.). They'll still need help to outbid developers, or at least come close enough for family to agree, and they may still need help staving off a state highway.

    Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

    by chimpy on Fri Aug 24, 2012 at 10:17:17 AM PDT

  •  Hoka! (0+ / 0-)

    Hey Friends -

     I haven't been around for a while but this is some of what I have been up to.
    If you could find it in your heart to help - it will be gratefully and sincerely appreciated. Prayers are up for all who donate - whether it's a 5 or a 50 !  

    Online: at Indiegogo - Pe' Sla

    - it all helps. Pila maya & Thankx.

    I'm the person your mother warned you about.

    by Unique Material on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 10:16:54 AM PDT

  •  check it. (0+ / 0-)

    I'm the person your mother warned you about.

    by Unique Material on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 10:23:27 AM PDT

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