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Paul Ryan, fraud
Paul Ryan is showing his stripes as just another typical, hypocritical Republican. From abortion to stimulus funding to the Medicare cuts in his budget, to now, defense spending. Big surprise here: He was for cutting defense spending before he was against it.

Ryan voted for the Budget Control Act, the law that sets up an automatic trigger, or sequester, to cut spending on defense and other domestic programs. The cuts were included in the act to try to force Congress to come up with alternative cuts through a bipartisan supercommittee. But House Republicans, including those on the supercommittee, have been so focused on abortion, repealing Obamacare, and naming post offices, they didn't actually succeed in coming up with those alternatives.

Even though Ryan voted for the BCA, and thus for the sequester, he's slamming President Obama for the cuts. The cuts he voted for. And in doing so, he's embracing something he says he doesn't believe in—jobs created by federal spending.

It’s either lose defense-related jobs in Pennsylvania or put small businesses further at a competitive disadvantage,” Ryan said on Tuesday at a helicopter museum in West Chester, Pa. “I got a good idea—why don’t we take away President Obama’s job and create jobs for everybody no matter what industry they are in?”
Ryan said that “almost 44,000 jobs” are at stake if the cuts go through, breaking with his usual small-government argument that federal spending does not spur employment.
Paul Ryan is as much of a fraud as his running mate.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 09:50 AM PDT.

Also republished by Ryan Inc and Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (24+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 09:50:53 AM PDT

  •  Sigh. I Am Willing To Bet There Might (8+ / 0-)

    be no other liberal here more pro defense than me. But with that said we got to slash our military budget. I like that we have a huge military, but at this time we should cut it. Slash it.

    When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

    by webranding on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 09:57:05 AM PDT

    •  I'm a liberal and my son in a US Marine. (2+ / 0-)
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      Buzzer, freelunch

      I support 100% the people who wear the uniform, BUT I AM NOT SO HAPPY WITH THE CONGRESSIONAL LEADERSHIP.

      I have no problem with a Department of Defense that does not outsource all sorts of crap so that private companies like Haliburton (and former Vice President Cheney) and BlackWater don't rip off the system a ton.

      I have a problem with projects that the military does not want, but that Congress insists on maintaining to provide PORK in various Congressional districts. (old joke:  One more military base, and South Carolina will SINK.)

      We can do what we need to do to protect Americans without giving favored private companies inordinate and unreasonable profits ON NO-BID CONTRACTS for work we do not need.

      I think we need to hang around Ryan's neck the message that:

      He was FOR it BEFORE he was AGAINST it.

      Where is the ad that says THAT?

      We need to win the "frame Ryan as a hypocrite" battle, so that Ryan and R-MONEY are seen as Tweedledum and Tweedledummer.

      "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave." -- Patrick Henry

      by BornDuringWWII on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:39:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  only idiots would abandon sectors that are (5+ / 0-)

    foundational and critical. keep them contradictions coming, Ryan

    Don't roof rack me bro', Now the brown's comin' down; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Ensanguining the skies...Falls the remorseful day".政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 09:59:43 AM PDT

  •  Why is Rep Ryan worried about job cuts now? (15+ / 0-)

    44,000 jobs lost if Defense Budget is cut but voted against spending that would have saved teacher, police and fire fighter jobs across the country.  

    How much would the Obama Jobs Act cost and how many jobs would have been saved/created vs how much would be cut from the DOD budget and the 44,000 jobs that are at risk?

    Why are Defense contractor jobs more important to Rep Ryan and the GOP than teachers, police and firefighters? Why are they more important than renewable energy jobs?

    Ryan voted against every jobs measure the President put up because it was deficit spending (official excuse anyways) but now he wants to spend money America doesn't have to keep the Military-Industrial-Complex bloated and fat.  

    Deficit spending on teachers and first responders is bad because it grows the deficit and causes market uncertainty, but deficit spending on the war machine is of utmost importance and cannot be questioned.  

    Will the Obama campaign point out the rank hypocrisy?

    An OFA Campaign Web Ad is the new Reid "sternly worded letter".

    by Jacoby Jonze on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:00:32 AM PDT

    •  Because defense contractor jobs (15+ / 0-)

      are real jobs.

      Teachers, firefighters, cops--they're just moochers. That's not real work.

      Gawd, I hate this little SOB.

      "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

      by Joan McCarter on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:22:21 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  U.S. defense budget is a mess (0+ / 0-)

        There's a lot of things buried in defense appropriations -- medical, scientific, etc. -- that really ought not to be there.  But they are because if they are lumped in with defense, then their funding is less likely to be screwed with.

        There are teachers, firefighters, and cops that get DoD money for this or that -- free gun programs for cops, fire prevention grants in cooperation with FEMA, the SEED program for teachers, etc.  

        Sure, the defense budget is a bloated mess, but there's lots of babies that ought not to be thrown out with the bathwater.

        •  There is a lot of defense spending (0+ / 0-)

          that is in other budgets, like NASA.  The unaudited Pentagon budget shields everything in it.

          Then there are programs, weapons and facilities the Pentagon doesn't want or need. Congress puts them through anyway. Because every congressional district has a company that makes money from the Pentagon. Congressmen vote for other districts military protection, and of course, the lobbyists make sure the Congress critters have money for voting the right way.

          There are plenty of insiders who have discussed the structural and other problems with that sink hole. No babies need to be lost.

          Of course Ryan isn't really campaigning against those votes. He only voted for them to cut a deal, like all the other GOP bots, fully intending to change the law when the day of reckoning arrived. They are so full of integrity, it makes you wonder if they will burst something.

          "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

          by Ginny in CO on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:30:51 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  Defense jobs are also costlier to the taxpayer (2+ / 0-)
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      BornDuringWWII, Delevie

         The DoD can directly hire every single defense contractor, pay them the same money they're making now (with the same benefite), and come out WAY ahead on the budget -- just because it's cutting out the corporate middleman (which pockets much more for itself than it's paying its employees).

        But these corporate middlemen contribute handsomely to Paul Ryan and his ilk.

        Paul Ryan is a crook. At every level.

      "Le ciel est bleu, l'enfer est rouge."

      by Buzzer on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:37:32 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Keep your Tie on Paul; it goes well with your (4+ / 0-)
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    ardyess, annieli, blue aardvark, Catkin

    Cheap Suit

    Notice: This Comment © 2012 ROGNM

    by ROGNM on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 10:46:11 AM PDT

  •  Just wait (3+ / 0-)
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    ardyess, blue aardvark, JML9999

    Before this is over, Mitt Romney will be denouncing Paul Ryan and demanding that he resign.


  •  Ryan will create jobs for everyone... (3+ / 0-)
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    FiredUpInCA, blue aardvark, Buzzer

    ...only, don't expect those jobs to pay a decent wage (or any wages at all).

    You see, what Ryan wants is for everyone outside the 1% to get jobs being servants to the 1%. Since there are so many, they can be easily replaced if issues arise with the units help.

    Too many kids to look after and need a raise? Financially crippling medical conditions? There's always someone to take your place!

    "for my humble servant, who has served me faithfully these many years, without complaint, I leave... a boot to the head"

  •  The choice of Ryan has emboldened the (3+ / 0-)
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    blue aardvark, Ginny in CO, Delevie

    Knuckle draggers and they are tripping over themselves to utter ever more wacky statements. What a gift to DEMS!

    Just another faggity fag socialist fuckstick homosinner!

    by Ian S on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:10:26 PM PDT

  •  Ryan is pulp (1+ / 0-)
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    blue aardvark

    It is remarkable that Ryan's mythical image and motives could be promoted and maintained by the Beltway media for more than a decade, but it took less than a week of casual media inspection of Ryan to expose him for what he is.

    If the media had done its job in the first place, not only wouldn't Ryan be a VP nominee, but maybe he wouldn't be a congressman at all, and the voters of his district might have someone in Washington who actually represents their interests.

  •  More evidence that they believe in Keynesianism (2+ / 0-)
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    blue aardvark, JML9999

    And that they're utterly disingenuous con men.

    Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore

    by Minerva on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:11:08 PM PDT

  •  Why does he have to hide his votes and ideas? (0+ / 0-)

    If he has ideas, let him state them plainly, and let people vote for or against them. What's with this lying and cheating? Are his ideas that bad?

  •  This was their planned strategy (1+ / 0-)
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    blue aardvark
    Even though Ryan voted for the BCA, and thus for the sequester, he's slamming President Obama for the cuts. The cuts he voted for.
    Knowing that they are the party associated with supporting defense spending, they knew they could run against the President when they agreed to cut defense.

    Republicans will buy his speechifying after the fact but I wonder if Independents will.

    The choice of our lifetime: Mitt Romney, It Takes A Pillage or President Barack Obama, Forward Together.

    by FiredUpInCA on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:13:17 PM PDT

    •  Remember, Boehner said July a year ago that (1+ / 0-)
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      he got 98 percent of what he wanted. He wanted this deal and apparently thought to use this  as a campaign item, perhaps in the next two months, against Obama, when he could threaten another debt default and shutdown unless he got what he wanted, given the debt ceiling timing issue. Now he got what he wanted, and his problem is that he now knows why God doesn't like him. Since he also has this horrible mess, and it is his side who looks like they are throwing wrenches in the works. Now the CBO has said that 2013 is toast unless these two problems are both solved, and he has damned little time to do it, and is looking at a horrendous disaster if his party WINS.  It worked so well when Bush left Obama a mess, but now it is staring Boehner in the eyes on the first day fo the new term and it doesn't look so good anymore. Oh well.

  •  Question for Paul Ryan (0+ / 0-)

    When I go out to lunch with customer types (NASA or military), and we all buy something, how does the economy distinguish my privately-employed dollars from their evil tainted government employee dollars?

    Take your time answering.

    Romney economics: Feed our seed corn to the fattest pigs and trust them to poop out jobs.

    by blue aardvark on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:14:36 PM PDT

  •  His head is getting bigger (0+ / 0-)

    I'm sure there is a good bit of idiocy yet to come.

    Everybody got to elevate from the norm....

    by Icicle68 on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:14:49 PM PDT

  •  Anyone else get a gross feeling (1+ / 0-)
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    From not just this dude, but the two of them together? Just physically Ryan looks like the stuff that was left over from making Romney. Weird. Gross, I know, but...I said it.

  •  Lying partners (1+ / 0-)
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    Paul Ryan is as much of a fraud as his running mate.
    This sums it up nicely. As soon as I saw Ryan speak, I could see that he is as much of a bold-faced liar as Romney is. He lies with such enthusiasm as though he really believes the lies. He's also good at taking cover and hiding, running away from his positions.
  •  For all y'all who are looking for consistency (3+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, Quantumlogic, basket

    from this ticket, it seems to my you don't understand how the Etch-A-Sketch actually works.

    It is somewhat like this device:

    men in black neuralizer Pictures, Images and Photos

    The Muslim said "I wished I had met Christ before I met the Christians" - Rev. Marvin Winins

    by captainlaser on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:17:55 PM PDT

  •  That is why dad picked lad (and no one else). (0+ / 0-)
  •  What's needed is messaging that (0+ / 0-)

    falls within the comprehension zone of the national electorate, such as FLIP-FLOP. If we were to say that Ryan has ‘flip-flopped’ on defense spending, the entire national electorate would get it.

  •  You can say that again. (1+ / 0-)
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    "Paul Ryan is as much of a fraud as his running mate."

  •  Ask yourself (0+ / 0-)

    why these guys don't care that their lies are picked apart in front of the world, and yet they just keep right on lying. I say they've got a couple dozen schemes lined up to steal the votes and right now, they're all full of themselves cuz they think it's a done deal and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

     And not for nothin', but I'm asking myself if Paul Ryan suddenly has a rather Reagan-esque looking coif going on there in that (assuming recent) picture? Or am I seeing things?  

    (I can't be the only one who sees this? Really? Haa!)

    It is time to #Occupy Media.

    by lunachickie on Wed Aug 22, 2012 at 05:47:59 PM PDT

  •  Am I the only person noticing this? (0+ / 0-)

    Is no one in the media or elsewhere EVER going to point out that sometimes VP's become president?  Ryan acts as if his record is moot since Romney is "at the rop of the ticket".  Was Teddy Roosevelt's position on issues insignificant?  Was Lyndon Johnson's?  Harry Truman's?   Gerald Ford's?  Ryan isn't running for Assistant President; he's supposed to be the guy who takes over when the roof falls in.

    •  Does anyone here REALLY think that if there is an (0+ / 0-)

      R congress and they send him a no exceptions bill, that he will veto it?  I thought not. And think of all the other things he may not veto either. Norquist was just saying what the rest of the Tea Party thought. And they might try to impeach him if he disobeys, if they have both houses.

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