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If only this were a joke.  But it's not.  She and several other conservative pundits made these tweets less than 24 hours after Armstrong passed away.

Of course, the "Muslim outreach" is yet another right-wing twist on the actual truth.  You won't see Crowley ever mention that George W. Bush had the same Muslim outreach program.  And the link she provided actually contradicted her claim, as the White House quickly disagreed with Charlie Bolden's statement, and her follow-up tweets only made matters worse for her. But hey, nothing like some good ol' Islamophobia, eh?

Originally posted to BruinKid on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 09:16 PM PDT.

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  •  Because reaching out to people is bad... (10+ / 0-)

    I really don't understand this mindset they can't really think that a billion people on the planet are evil lunatics hell-bent on destroying baseball, mom, and apple pie can they?

    Don't answer that, (sigh) I know...

    Everything Right is Wrong Again - TMBG (lyrics)

    by GreenPA on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 09:21:15 PM PDT

  •  sometimes I think twitter has as bad an effect (6+ / 0-)

    as FOX on the intelligence of the American public.  I guess it's be careful where you feed.

  •  I hope liberal pundits (6+ / 0-)

    Were busy tweeting about how Mitt Romney could learn something from Neil Armstrong.  Certainly, conservatives could learn that taking a step forward instead of backward is a good thing.

  •  What ignoramuses (13+ / 0-)

    They seem to have no idea that stars mostly have Arabic names and people study "Al jibr" (algebra) because when the Europeans were running around in bearskins and burning people at the stake Arab civilizAtion preserved and advanced mathematics and science massively.  What freaking idiots.  It is really hard not to thing that Americas main problem is that by and large Americans are just too dumb to live

    Courtesy Kos. Trying to call on the better angels of our nature.

    by Mindful Nature on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 09:25:42 PM PDT

    •  Yeah (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm starting to hate this country. Too many people are way too stupid, and they might regain access to the nukes if they get back in office...

    •  A large chunk of Europe was cultured, with cities (3+ / 0-)
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      and learning too during that time... the largest city with the largest building with the largest dome was in the Byzantine empire... non Muslim and Christian. and away from the southern core areas of the former Roman Empire, Northern Europe had more culture during this time than many today are aware of... the idea of the "dark ages" is more Monkish propaganda about areas that were not sufficiently Christian than anything else. Meanwhile the whole north coast of the Mediterranean continued from the Roman era with a culture that despite the upheavals and fragmentation was not overall all that different in quality than the Muslim world.

      And the average peasant in the Muslim world had a life with no Algebra, advanced or even not so advanced medicine or higher learning and apart from dietary differences and lifestyle differences due to climate differences lived lives not all that different than peasants in Northern Europe... Both illiterate in a subsistence lifestyle. Post Roman England was not as uncultured or backward as the later Normans would have us believe. More winners PR. In many ways Saxon Britain was more egalitarian with a fairer social order than their Norman conquerors.

      In some important areas the Islamic world advanced while Europe lagged but it was a mixed situation. The Islamic world as a whole did improve upon Greek science in Medicine, alchemy (chemistry), metallurgy, Armaments, siege weapons, fortifications and other instruments of power. But as a Medieval society science had a top down focus underwritten by and in service to the needs of the power structure. The rulers did support mathematics but it was in part because it linked to better work in Astronomy which was in aid of better Astrology... and the rest of the time measuring land areas for ownership, trajectories for siege engines and other practical matters. So those who did these studies at the behest of an in support of the ruling elite for their benefit in turn handed down important advances to humanity as a bonus beyond the immediate rationale for it. And within the protected institutions, Learning for its own sake was encouraged for a while but this free thinking did not last.

      After the relatively short golden age of science in the Islamic world when most of this happened the learning did not advance much further since the sciences were not rooted in the day to day areas of society. Free inquiry was limited to a small elite who were more ivory tower and vulnerable. Their free thinking was dangerous since it asked dangerous questions and was soon hampered by religious restrictions they were often shut down or de-funded during successive waves of religious conservatism and never recovered the freedoms and support it once had. Somehow when they had their "Galileo moments" they could not self correct soon after and continue to progress in spite of religious foot dragging. Instead they stagnated scientifically while Europe with a wider base for the new age of inquiry had the way open to go beyond Greek learning and take the Islamic sciences and soon add to them.

      Much of the rest of science in the classic Islamic world was merely rote acceptance of a lot of Greek learning with the principle of deference to authority and older scripture/writing taking precedence. They did break with this when it benefited the ruler who underwrote their efforts... his health, hold on power (star charts) etc. trumped that mindset up to a point.

      IT is usually believed that the European Renaissance era was totally the result of exposure to both new Islamic sciences and previously lost classical Greek learning. but Greek learning was actually not all lost. Yes quite a bit was new to some when translated from Arabic versions of them but much if not most was also made available in the original Greek from Byzantium... (the crusaders sacked the city before the Islamic conquest of that area and books taken back to Venice and other areas)... and not just from Byzantine sources... there were many other Greek texts which had been preserved in Moorish (and non-Moorish) Spain where the reconquista had been underway for a long time already. And much additional earlier knowledge was still available scattered and disconnected across Southern Europe the whole time... a renewed spread and sharing and reconnection both from scattered areas of Europe as well as new and old from the Islamic is closer to the true picture.

      So the idea of a dark Christian Europe suddenly lighting up due to things cribbed from the Islamic world is both simplistic and inaccurate. And for much of this time "Bearskin wearers" or "Camel-skin wearers" as there may have been here and there were not representative of either of their societies or their levels of literacy or understanding of old texts... And as for burning at the stake, that mostly happened more often LATER, During and after the enlightenment (or often in reaction to it) ... and really, both societies were just as likely to execute or torture... stoning witches to death in one or women who "dishonored" their family in the other... not much to choose between as to the "better" approach... (hands chopped off heads chopped off... it was a barbaric era all over actually...) and with its ongoing violence and inhumanities mankind today still embarrasses itself in both in "backwards" areas and the most "advanced" too.

      Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie (hah...)

      by IreGyre on Mon Aug 27, 2012 at 08:07:57 AM PDT

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      •  this gets my vote (0+ / 0-)

        For top comment.   Thanks for calling my semi snark into the light!

        Courtesy Kos. Trying to call on the better angels of our nature.

        by Mindful Nature on Mon Aug 27, 2012 at 09:28:02 AM PDT

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      •  And compare Creationism and... (0+ / 0-)

        Intelligent Design to your Non-BearSkin Europe?

        We're in trouble.

        BTW, I picked up a couple of copies of Science for Christian Schools to see what was the hub bub....

        Yep. Yes, we really ARE IN TROUBLE.

        Ugh. --UB.

        "Daddy, every time a bell rings, a Libertaria­n picks up his Pan Am tickets for the Libertaria­n Paradise of East Somalia!"

        by unclebucky on Mon Aug 27, 2012 at 09:35:07 AM PDT

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        •  nah... like I said the "Dark" areas were labelled (1+ / 0-)
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          that by the Church because they were not Christian or Christian enough... The Islamic world in its first centuries had some advantages and many strong cultural elements which it began losing and by the time of  the renaissance they were falling behind in many areas... why that happened has been argued endlessly but most agree it has something to do with just how doctrinaire religious purists could get during periods of excess zeal and whether a society could hold to the better parts of their faith without sabotaging their society's strengths and relative freedom to push boundaries. Read up some "Bernard Lewis" ("Muslim Discovery of Europe" is a good one to try)... who is not a Xtian acadamy "textbook" author fantasist but a major authority on history of the Islamic world (I do not agree with some of his views but he is a good source for understanding a lot)...

          and also read up more on "Dark ages" Europe... that it was not just a few petty Robber barons lording it over mud caked peasants... books like "The year 1000" and "How the Irish saved Civilization". These are just a taste of the wider picture of what Europe was like in those years. By no means the whole story of an area that ranged from Picts in the North of Scotland to Constantinople which Muslims referred to as "The city of the World's desire"... And in between there was every shade of knowledge and ignorance, sophistication and culture or barbarism... but all relative... so called barbarians were often much more cultured than has been recognized by their descendants....

          The Renaissance and enlightenment happened almost in spite of the church... there was plenty of fightback and foot-dragging but for some reason in time the church would accept alterations to what it allowed science to say was true... so much later in one century burned Giordano Bruno at the stake for not recanting his crazy "Many worlds" astronomy...... and later only threatened Galileo with torture and then ended up accepting the truths revealed by Copernicus who was a Monk himself...

          Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie (hah...)

          by IreGyre on Mon Aug 27, 2012 at 12:12:27 PM PDT

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  •  Monica Crowley.... (4+ / 0-) relation to Aleister Crowley, is she?

    Ah well. Being a Republican apologist makes one at the very least an honorary Satan-worshipper.

    "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

    by sagesource on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 09:36:52 PM PDT

  •  The very fact... (15+ / 0-)

    ...  that "small-government," budget-slashing, anti-science, young-earth, rapture-sucking assholes feel entitled to USE Neil Armstrong to prove a point...  the irony is almost too damn painful to be funny.

    Almost.  I can still channel my inner Carlin, and be at once stunned, outraged, and amused.  And speaking of the late George Carlin, let's not forget that Obama stole from his estate to fund an abortion clinic in Kenya.

    "There's a lot you can do with a hypnotized chicken." -7.50; -6.21

    by sgoldinger on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 09:42:56 PM PDT

  •  Have you ever heard conservative (7+ / 0-)

    pundits tell knock knock jokes?  Exactly.  That's because they can't remember to say knock knock.

  •  Well, when your network science authorities are (10+ / 0-)

    Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin, what do you expect?

    "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room." - President Merkin Muffley

    by Farkletoo on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 10:22:13 PM PDT

  •  I don't know how they do it. (8+ / 0-)

    I'd get tired trying to turn every event, no matter how unrelated, into a hit piece against the president.

    I mean, seriously. Even during the height of the Bush years, I couldn't be bothered to tie him into every event that happened.

    Are these people that twisted and angry, or are they just trying to keep their gigs?

    If Obama didn't get Bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger; then Bin Laden didn't take down the World Trade Center because he didn't fly the planes.

    by Bush Bites on Sun Aug 26, 2012 at 11:40:07 PM PDT

  •  scarry mooslims!!! scarry mooslims!! aiee!! (8+ / 0-)

    Just another day on Faux Fascist Noise.

  •  One giant leap backwards for mankind n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    BruinKid, jfromga

    "How come when it’s us, it’s an abortion, and when it’s a chicken, it’s an omelette?" - George Carlin

    by yg17 on Mon Aug 27, 2012 at 05:56:43 AM PDT

  •  Does Boortz know that Muslims invented algebra? (2+ / 0-)
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    BruinKid, jfromga

    That thing that made the NASA trips possible.

    The word "algebra" is named after the Arabic word "al-jabr"

    Some people have short memories

    by lenzy1000 on Mon Aug 27, 2012 at 05:58:13 AM PDT

  •  Here I thought nobody could be worse than Candy (2+ / 0-)
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    JVolvo, jfromga


  •  I can see their point (0+ / 0-)

    I watched the moon landing live, glued to the tv, and I distinctly recell Armstrong saying 'One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind, except the Muslims'.

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