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First, Republicans were forced to denounce and distance themselves from Todd Akin, even though he merely articulated what they have all believed and argued: that abortion is never justified under any circumstances. They called his statement shameful and offensive and insulting and demanded that he drop out of the race—and, preferably, off the face of the Earth—as soon as possible.

And yet, the Republican Party wrote his position into the party platform.

The party's presidential nominee also (eventually) claimed offense and forced his running mate—who shares Akin's position, who has co-sponsored a number of anti-abortion bills with him, and who has long insisted that women should be forced to carry their pregnancies to term, even if it threatens their lives—to also condemn Akin's remarks and to insist that Akin's position is not a representation of the party or the ticket. And yet it is in the party platform.

The chairman of the Republican National Committee tried to change the subject by insisting, despite 54 anti-abortion bills introduced by Republicans since January 2011, that it is President Obama who is "obsessed" with abortion, that Republicans are concerned with other, more important things. And yet it is in the party platform.  

On Monday, Romney flip-flopped all the way back to 1994, when he had promised to support reproductive rights because it was the law of the land. Now, once again, Romney says he's "in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest and the health and life of the mother" and that this issue has "been settled for some time in the courts." And yet the total ban on abortions is in the party platform.

And now, the final nail in the coffin. As Markos wrote, our latest PPP poll further confirms what we already knew: the entire country is opposed to the Republican Party's abortion platform.

Q: Would you support or oppose a constitutional amendment banning all abortions without any exceptions, even in case of rape, incest, or where the life of the mother is threatened?

Support: 13
Oppose: 75
Not sure: 12

It's not just Democrats or liberals or women who outright reject the Republican Party's goal of a constitutional ban on all abortions; such an amendment doesn't even find support among Republicans (20 percent), conservatives (25 percent), or tea partiers (28 percent).

And yet it is in the party platform.

The leaders of this party have become too extreme even for their own base. For all the threats and hyperbole and dozens of failed bills in the House and hundreds of bills introduced around the country, this is not what Americans want. It's not even what Republicans want.

Mitt Romney knows that. That's why he's Etch-A-Sketching as fast as he can away from his own endorsement last fall of a constitutional amendment. That's not a winning argument to make to American voters; it's not even a winning argument to make to Republican voters. The issue is "settled," Romney said, and he's hoping to leave it at that and doesn't want anyone to ask him any more questions about it.

And yet it is in the party platform.

That's going to make it awfully difficult the next time these same legislators who've been so "offended" try to pass yet another anti-abortion bill. They're all on record as opposing the sort of extremism that, until now, they've happily endorsed, arm in arm, with their former best pal Todd Akin. The country loudly rejected that extremism this week, and Republicans thought it was in their best interest to side with the country instead of Akin, and now they're in the unfortunate position of having to oppose their own agenda—an agenda that is still in the party platform.  

This—their own condemnation, the overwhelming opposition to their anti-woman extremism, and the pronouncement of the presidential nominee they selected that this is "settled"—has changed everything. Because it's still in the party platform, but there's a big difference: Republicans are so shamed by the admission of their extremism, that now they are the ones who'd rather not talk about it at all.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:30 AM PDT.

Also republished by Abortion.

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  •  Admiral-your assessment? (33+ / 0-)

    The 1st Amendment gives you the right to say stupid things, the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee a paycheck to say stupid things.

    by JML9999 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:32:53 AM PDT

    •  If that's a manner of suggesting... (6+ / 0-)

      ...that the great "middle" of the electorate will now assume:  

      Well, they learned this lesson. They got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, and we caught them. Now give them a time out and they will be the reasonable Eisenhower/Rockefeller GOP we mythologize as the Normal GOP from here on out on all issues and policies.


      Then you're right.

      When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:54:59 AM PDT

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      •  More along the lines of a tactical withdrawl (3+ / 0-)
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        Candide08, glorificus, LSophia

        Still 70ish days for them to drag this out in key races.

        But your point is applicable to some percentage voters

        The 1st Amendment gives you the right to say stupid things, the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee a paycheck to say stupid things.

        by JML9999 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:59:11 AM PDT

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      •  so what can be done? (3+ / 0-)
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        JML9999, glorificus, LSophia

        not least to make sure that the vote suffers for them- we have to call them out, publicise the platform!!

        The media, er.......

        •  Start the 'pig in a poke' ads, voters cannot know (2+ / 0-)
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          what they will be getting.

          In the same quarter we have what Romney said yesterday, and what he said about supporting the Constitutional Amendment for personhood, on Huck, which are mutually exclusive.

          And we have Paul Ryan who says he's in now, and not leaving, and who will probably be involved in a long haul contest with Romney for who is really President and calls the shots, if that slate is elected. Mr. "Rape is a Method of Conception'   and "There should be no emergency Federal aid in catastrophes, no FEMA," when the hurricane is barreling down on poor old New Orleans again.

  •  They have no desire to take actual action (12+ / 0-)

    on abortion, because then they lose it as an issue to get the base riled up.  So they talk big, make broad pronouncements, but then back off when the shit blows back in their faces.

    We do not forgive. We do not forget. The whole world is watching.

    by Tracker on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:34:55 AM PDT

  •  Wonder if the GOP might not try (4+ / 0-)
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    to amend their platform before it gets approved on the floor?

    Or have they already approved it?

    Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
    ¡Boycott Arizona!

    by litho on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:35:52 AM PDT

  •  whether it's popular or not (16+ / 0-)

    they make abortion hard to get in many states.

    they are successful in that effort.

    An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

    by mightymouse on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:37:18 AM PDT

  •  if it wasn't for the (7+ / 0-)

    hatred, bigotry, racism, sexism, homophobia, fear, and other negative feelings of the older white males in america the gop would have a hard time winning the majority of elections regardless of the level of importance.

  •  Nothing but a temporary tactical retreat... (16+ / 0-)

    OFA and Dems can;t let Romney/Ryan get away from their statements from earlier this year (even during the primary in Romney's case) and votes (in Ryan's case).

    Hammer them on it.  "Overturning Roe v Wade, personhood, "forcible rape"...

    An OFA Campaign Web Ad is the new Reid "sternly worded letter".

    by Jacoby Jonze on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:40:37 AM PDT

    •  I agree (4+ / 0-)
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      OjaiValleyCali, Onomastic, Sue B, LSophia

      They are only reacting to the polling - this is not a change of thought.  This heinous piece of filth, the RNC 2012 Platform, will come back, again and again and again.  

      This platform states, in writing, who they really are and what they really believe in.  Politicians, knowing it won't work with moderates are, for now, trying to squash the platform - don't let them hide! - make sure everyone knows who these people are and what they stand for.

  •  Kaili Joy Gray (5+ / 0-)
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    Somebody at Newsbuster is trashing you , they have a link  of your blog on thier blog

  •  Kaili Joy Gray (1+ / 0-)
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    Somebody at Newsbuster is trashing you , they have a link  of your blog on thier blog

  •  They may want to lean toward pro-choice, (6+ / 0-)

    in case, Ann fails to humanize, Mitt.

    Fuck Big Brother...from now on, WE'RE watching.

    by franklyn on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:42:22 AM PDT

  •  I cannot remember a platform that was so toxic... (8+ / 0-)

    ...and so against most of the country....that its party would pretend it does not exist.

    And yet, there it is, in writing, an actual document!  AND IT IS THEIR PLATFORM!!  INCREDIBLE!

    PLEASE do not allow these sad harmful clowns anywhere near the presidency!!!   LOSING IS NOT AN OPTION!!
    (and I usually hate slogans and cliches like that, but wow, in this case....I mean it quite literally)!

    PLEASE help me support our president by reading Aldus Shrugged, a Capitalist manifesto that has a wonderful altruistic flavor, and will make you laugh (like therapy) at ayn and bain and ryan and mcconnell and limbaugh and beck and fox...and so many more!!

    Aldus Shrugged : The Antidote to Ayn Rand. @floydbluealdus1

    by Floyd Blue on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:42:42 AM PDT

  •  Republican concern (6+ / 0-)
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    Republicans are concerned with other, more important things, like rape.

    “Next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please pay attention.” ― Molly Ivins

    by shoeless on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:43:07 AM PDT

  •  Cockroaches scatter when the light goes on (11+ / 0-)

    Interesting what happens when the real world implications of these outrageous positions are shown the light of day.  

  •  Are you nuts? (13+ / 0-)

    Get this white flag off the front page...

    The GOP is not looking for some single-stroke triumphant victory on Abortion.  Such a win would be just as easily reversed when political winds shift.

    Their plan on abortion is more of a death by 1,000 cuts.  Restrictions, bans, funding, age limits, waiting periods, medical requirements, etc, etc.

    They will tie every abortion issue into so many knots and around so many otherwise unrelated issues that no single judicial or federal fiat can undo them all.

    The goal of overturning Roe v. Wade is not to replace it with some national edict banning all abortions.  Its to return the power to the states and local governments in order to dismantle and destroy every piece of infrastructure that leads to abortions being available.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:45:58 AM PDT

    •  Exactly - jobs, jobs, jobs! (3+ / 0-)
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      They'll just go underground for a few weeks or months, then the second they've lied their way back into power, it will all start up again. It's not a surrender at all, it's just a tactical retreat, soon to be followed by a full assault.

      (romney)/RYAN 2012 - I could never eat as much as I'd like to vomit.

      by Fordmandalay on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:51:19 AM PDT

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    •  Are YOU nuts? (10+ / 0-)

      Do you realize that they're running away from abortion for the first time ever? Do you realize what a watershed moment this is for us if we seize it and treat it as such? They are scared. THEY are scared. For the first time ever. They're all over the place, they don't know what to say, there's major dissension in the ranks—on their favorite issue!

      This is an opportunity for us. We get to go on offense. WE get to control the conversation.

      This is a game-changer. If we use it.

      •  Exactly. (3+ / 0-)
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        Kaili Joy Gray, glorificus, LSophia

        Can you just imagine the heads exploding in wing nut land while reading your post?

        "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

        by Onomastic on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:04:34 AM PDT

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      •  I dont see the running away (4+ / 0-)

        All they are doing is damage control to keep their 4-years in the making National Spotlight from being hi-jacked by one candidate in Missouri (a state that isn't even in play Presidentially).

        The campaign is on jobs, economy and how much do you hate Barack Hussein Obama...

        They want to win that.. then they will be more than happy to go back to telling you what you can and cant do with your uterus.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:33:17 AM PDT

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        •  They're pushing the race card because they (1+ / 0-)
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          don't want to deal with their party's failed fiscal policy record, especially the obstruction of the Republican Congress over the last years, OR their War on Women.

          They cost Americans millions of jobs by blocking or killing every jobs or stimulus bill, all to make President Obama a one term President.

          They didn't care how many Americans they hurt in doing so.

          That IS their record and we can hammer that home incessantly.

          "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

          by Onomastic on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:43:25 AM PDT

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      •  You are half right - but they have lost only (4+ / 0-)

        one front in this war.  The other fronts of defunding, restrictions, medical licensing, waiting periods, etc. are all alive and well.

      •  What you describe is a retreat - not a surrender (1+ / 0-)
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        It will be a surrender when the plank is out of the platform, as that will indicate they think they can get through an election without full support from the most extreme misogynist religious groups of their base.

        I think the retreat will launch an internal civil war if Huck and friends can make a showing of raising sufficient money for Akin, especially if he goes down as a martyr.

    •  GOP is looking for scapegoats their base can scorn (4+ / 0-)

      and "bad women" fits the bill (ditto, "undeserving poor", "unEuropean foreigners" etc.)  "Morally-superior real Americans" sell their votes to the GOP in exchange for an ego boost, while the .01% laugh.

      "'s difficult to imagine what else Republicans can do to drive women away in 2012, unless they decide to bring back witch-hanging. And I wouldn't put it past them." James Wolcott

      by Mayfly on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:54:16 AM PDT

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    •  This is just a messaging ploy. (1+ / 0-)
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      It's just superficial damage control so they can try to get out their "etch-a-sketch re-invention of Mitt Romney long enough for it to stick.
      And I do mean stick. As in, "throw some shit on the wall and see what sticks."

      The base of the party is the religious right. Anti-abortion fever fuels the gop voting/activist base in this era. Nothing else comes close.

      At the same time, the money and real power comes from Wall Street and the SOBs. (Senior Oil Businessmen.)

      That's why you see this intersection at the Kochs, Pat Robertson, and other conservative billionaires.

      The third leg of the stool are the neocons. That's where Sheldon Adelson comes in.

      This is why you have a schizophrenic gop . Like a lot of schizophrenics they sound incredibly coherent, but crazy.

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:10:15 AM PDT

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  •  Doesn't matter though. Not a palpable victory... (2+ / 0-)
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    They can and will simply continue the big lie and the vamping of the subject matter as they usually do talking out of both sides of their mouth on issues with a wink toward the people to whom they pander on any given issue.

    The ultra loyal party base, the people they know they can whip into a mini frenzy on these issues, will nibble and swallow the bait every time.

    They don't care about the exposure of hypocrisy or lies. They will simply lie again and pretend and much of the base will let them get away with it.

    -6.38, -6.21: Lamented and assured to the lights and towns below, Faster than the speed of sound, Faster than we thought we'd go, Beneath the sound of hope...

    by Vayle on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:48:30 AM PDT

  •  Tactical retreat, not a surrender (8+ / 0-)

    I think this is a tactical retreat, not a surrender. There was a time when Repugs gave lip service only to restricting abortion rights. That's what Reagan did. But now they are busily attacking those rights, especially at the state level, and packing the courts with supportive judges.
      As long as abortion rights are front-page news, Repugs will equivocate, but as soon as the media moves on - as it will very soon - they'll resume their assault. "Two steps forward, one step back."

    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson

    by Blue Boomer on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:50:02 AM PDT

    •  I agree (3+ / 0-)
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      I no more believe that the Republicans have backed down on abortion than I believe what they say about their Medicare plan, privatizing Social Security or trickle down economics.  They've already got most of the country agreeing that a woman only has a choice about abortion if she was raped or her life is at risk.  Their  platform is a load of crap, and they have every intention of dumping the whole steaming pile on us as soon as they can, whatever way they can.

    •  They'll continue the tactic of incremental steps (3+ / 0-)
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      and let's not forget Supreme Court nominations.   Having been caught for purposes of this election means very little.

      "My taxes are of the legally correct height, and the core reason for my campaign is to make them a different, lower height, and it is none of your business what precisely either of those heights might be." Mitt, as channelled by Hunter.

      by Inland on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:01:02 AM PDT

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  •  Repubs are stuck in quite a pickle (2+ / 0-)
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    They've grounded into a sort of triple play: they're losing, people hate them, and their platform is deeply unpopular.

    16, Progressive, Indian-American, Phillies Phan. Obama/Om/Chase Utley

    by vidanto on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:52:36 AM PDT

  •  he's Etch-A-Sketching as fast as he can (3+ / 0-)
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    Don't roof rack me bro', Now the brown's comin' down; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Ensanguining the skies...Falls the remorseful day".政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:54:04 AM PDT

  •  I want to know: (2+ / 0-)
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    who are these 12% respondents to the poll who have "no opinion" on the complete and total illegality of abortion under any circumstance.  The choice couldn't be any more between black and white.

    Are these the same 12% of people who pollsters have long assumed have no opinion about anything?  Are these the citizens who answer the phone, agree to be polled, and then think their dinner is more important than their opinion?  Or are they just refusing to voice an opinion about anything at all?

    "Would you favor or oppose efforts by the world to thwart an invasion of aliens from another planet?"  "I have no opinion on that."

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:56:15 AM PDT

  •  What makes you think (3+ / 0-)
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    The Republicans care what the majority of Americans want?  They have repeatedly gone against the wishes of the majority.  For example, raising taxes on the top earners, raising the income base for Social Security, etc.  Despite them doing this, many, many American voters will still vote Republican.

  •  The party's supposed leaders who are out (2+ / 0-)
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    in front of the camera and running for office may have "surrendered" because of the obvious. The platform won't sell in a general election.

    That doesn't mean that we don't have to work like hell to push back on both state and federal levels to regain access to health care that so many women have lost.

    The attacks against Planned Parenthood continue. The attacks from the Theocrats will go on.

    It's not enough that the GOP is playing optics. We need to seize the moment and push back even harder.

    "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

    by Onomastic on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:00:13 AM PDT

  •  this time they mean it. (5+ / 0-)
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    If you know anyone on the fence about voting in this election, this is the message that we have to get through.  

    This time they mean it.  

    They WILL force a criminalization of abortion amendment.

    They WILL dismantle SS and Medicare.  

    They WILL slash the entire safety net

    They WILL dismantle the Dept. of Education.

    They WILL slash any and all regulations, if one more diseased cow will add to the bottom line of an agribusiness CEO.  

    They will do it all.  This time they mean it.  There is no cynicism about their motives or intent.  The debt ceiling debacle was evidence of that, when the party leadership brought in economists to explain to the freshman tea partiers how the debt ceiling worked and they all laughed.  

    This time they mean it.  A corporatist SCOTUS for the next two generations.  All federal judges with a tea party agenda.  God knows what they will do to voting rights.  

    It is an unimaginable America.  

    This time they mean it.  

  •  This is no game changer. (3+ / 0-)
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    They haven't changed their minds.  This goes in the "let's not talk about this any more before the election, tell the moderates what they want to hear and once we win we will do what we want" file.

    Still enjoying my stimulus package.

    by Kevvboy on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:03:39 AM PDT

  •  I don't think this is a mis-calculation (1+ / 0-)
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    instead of having everyone talk about what the true agenda of the gop is (getting the rich richer), they are trying to get votes by beating the bushes on social issues like abortion.  Even the gop knows their legislative history / position on making the 1% richer at the expense of everyone else indefensible and that is really what people should focus on if they want to win the election.

  •  Too late for amendment. (2+ / 0-)
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    Mayfly, SueDe

    The record shows what they are about. No amount of etch-a-sketching is going to erase that. The problem for the the republicans is that women KNOW and REMEMBER just what they wish to do to them. I find this attempt to veer away from what they really want to do pathetically weak. Stupid and desperate plays by people who just realized just how far out of step they are with reality.
    Its in the constitution about the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I NEVER found anything in there about curtailing a woman's right to decide what to do with with her life. The last time I checked that included what she gets to do with her body. It's hers not mine. Its her body not the government's. Its hers not a religion's. It's not even her significant other's. It is hers and hers alone. Just like it is for a man and his body.
    Anything else is semantics, sophistry, and pure bullshit.
    You object to abortion on religious grounds? Fine. Don't get one.
    You object to abortion on moral grounds? Fine. Don't get one.
    You are not a woman and therefore cannot get pregnant . Not your problem. Shut the fuck up.
    It is not about any of the objections listed above when you get right down to it. Its about power and the exercise of that power over another human being. I find that repulsive.

  •  No, they haven't (2+ / 0-)
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    And this sort of unfounded glee at their alleged "surrender" if not defeat is why we continue to lose the overall war. They have not given up, they've merely made a tactical, short-term retreat on their most extreme position on abortion on which most Americans oppose them, for purely political reasons, even as the continue to hold this position amongst themselves, which they will eventually resume pushing.

    Meantime, they've successfully shifted the debate from being about abortion and abortion rights in general, to this more specific debate. They're quite willing to lose it if they can avoid a debate on the larger issue of abortion, on which they most decidedly have not retreated, surrendered or lost. Until the majority of Americans reject their opposition to abortion rights in general, and not just to such specific ones, and until this rejection is matched with strong legislation at the federal and state level to protect abortion rights, it will be our side, and of course women, who will be on the losing side of this issue.

    This was never about abortion rights in cases of rape, incest or where the mother's health is at risk. Until we realize that, we will continue to lose the real debate.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:06:54 AM PDT

  •  Soeaking of "settled law"... (2+ / 0-)
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    Mayfly, a2nite

    Trying not to scare away moderates and independents, Romney speaks of abortion access as "settled law", leaving the impression he won't try to change it. But "settled law" currently allows abortion for any reason during the first trimester. Romney would limit it to rape, incest and the life (not health!) of the mother - that's not "settled law"! Totally disingenuous.

    Democracy - Not Plutocracy!

    by vulcangrrl on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:07:17 AM PDT

  •  Any attempt by Romney to distance himself from (1+ / 0-)
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    Ryan's, Akin's, and the base's position on absolutism vis a vis abortion is nothing more than a wolf donning the fleece of a sheep.

    Because stupid people are so sure they're smart, they often act smart, and sometimes even smart people are too stupid to recognize that the stupid people acting smart really ARE stupid.

    by ZedMont on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:08:55 AM PDT

  •  Sadly, Democrats have also surrendered (3+ / 0-)
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    When was the last time that Democrats launched a fight to make ALL abortions legal, so that they would REALLY be a "pro-choice" party? Probably not in the lifetime of many of the people who are reading this comment.

    There were protests around the country on Sunday, Women's Equality Day, calling for women's reproductive freedom and more. Democratic politicians were conspicuously absent.

    Eli Stephens
    Left I on the News
    "Stand Up, Fight Back!"

    by elishastephens on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:11:09 AM PDT

  •  Health of the Mother (1+ / 0-)
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    rMormoney's 'health...of the mother' statement needs to be put into video and sent via email to all of the religious nuts.

    This is a huge point for the crazies who are against abortion.

  •  The stupid thing is: (3+ / 0-)
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    Republicans, decades ago before the hijacking of the party by the Christian Right, WERE pro-choice. They believed abortion to be a private matter and government playing a role in what they felt was a private citizen's decision would have been too much interference.  

    Republican Party platforms from decades ago don't even mention abortion. It wasn't until their marriage to the Christian Right that we begin to see flat out, no holds barred, entire paragraphs of their platform devoted to this crap. And the ancient white men in the party know this is true--the ones that don't have the historical memory of fruit flies.

    We could be having so many other conversations about the role of government, but no. OMG SAVE TEH BABIES HATE MOR GAYS has to be the discussion instead.

    It gives a lovely light.

    by CayceP on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:56:09 AM PDT

    •  Indeed (3+ / 0-)
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      "Personal responsibility" meant taking responsibility for your actions, including recognizing that you were not able or willing to parent, and not able or willing to stay clean, get prenatal care, or otherwise carry through with a healthy pregnancy.  Terminating an unwanted, unplanned pregnancy used to be about responsibility, with the Republican party I grew up with.  

      I always say that I can't vote Republican because of the religious issues (which, IMO, are at the heart of the misogyny).  If the current Repub party had its way, I'd be illiterate with 6 kids, not a successful lawyer.

      Thought is only a flash in the middle of a long night, but the flash that means everything - Henri Poincaré

      by milton333 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 09:23:36 AM PDT

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  •  I don't think (2+ / 0-)
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    they're "shamed". I think they just realize its a losing argument and pretending to distance themselves from it.

  •  how delicious is this... (0+ / 0-)

    Of course, it's that small minded 13 percent of supporters that Mitt will lose entirely with his newly re-minted position on abortion...the guy can't win for losing, but that's life for a withering political party....

  •  All Republicans are close minded savages (0+ / 0-)

    but when push comes to shove they have one inviolable principle, get rid of Obama.  Because they are religiously goddamn racists.

  •  Hard to read about the abortion plank, too, ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... when it ducks, dodges and buries in a wordstorm what the House Republicans introduced this session and then lists, compliments and salutes every anti-abortion measure they can think of.

    Here, thanks to Politico, is the text of the plank being proposed for approval at the GOP convention this week:

    "Faithful to the 'self-evident' truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the 14th Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion or fund organizations which perform or advocate it and will not fund or subsidize health care which includes abortion coverage. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life. We oppose the non-consensual withholding or withdrawal of care or treatment, including food and water, from people with disabilities, including newborns, as well as the elderly and infirm, just as we oppose active and passive euthanasia and assisted suicide.

    Republican leadership has led the effort to prohibit the barbaric practice of partial-birth abortion and permitted states to extend health care coverage to children before birth. We urge Congress to strengthen the Born Alive Infant Protection Act by enacting appropriate civil and criminal penalties on health care providers who fail to provide treatment and care to an infant who survives an abortion, including early induction delivery where the death of the infant is intended. We call for legislation to ban sex-selective abortions — gender discrimination in its most lethal form — and to protect from abortion unborn children who are capable of feeling pain; and we applaud U.S. House Republicans for leading the effort to protect the lives of pain-capable unborn children in the District of Columbia. We call for a ban on the use of body parts from aborted fetuses for research. We support and applaud adult stem cell research to develop lifesaving therapies, and we oppose the killing of embryos for their stem cells. We oppose federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

    We also salute the many states that have passed laws for informed consent, mandatory waiting periods prior to an abortion, and health-protective clinic regulation. We seek to protect young girls from exploitation through a parental consent requirement; and we affirm our moral obligation to assist, rather than penalize, women challenged by an unplanned pregnancy. We salute those who provide them with counseling and adoption alternatives and empower them to choose life, and we take comfort in the tremendous increase in adoptions that has followed Republican legislative initiatives."

    The language I italicized in the first paragraph endorses abortion with no exceptions. Although the disingenuous GOP is working hard to duck anything that clear cut in media inquiries and stories about Cong. Akin.

    As Kaili concludes:

    "The leaders of this party have become too extreme even for their own base." Not to mention the rest of America.

    Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

    by TRPChicago on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 09:14:47 AM PDT

  •  Surrendered? Huh? (0+ / 0-)

    Talk about link bait. I don't see any surrendering. They obfuscate as always, but surrendered? Give me a break.

  •  Yes and no (1+ / 0-)
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    I think liberals have won one of the two prongs of the abortion argument.  The one about rights, i.e. that it is the woman's.  Roe v. Wade is going to stand.

    I've watched the polling numbers on that.  That prong of the argument has been one of tyranny of minorities.  But tyranny of minorities games end when one side gets to supermajority support, which is 68-70%.  (There isn't good recent polling on that but you can put the picture together from the polling to overturn Roe on   The hardcore 32% anti-choice support needed to keep an aggressive partisan fight going is cracked.

    That supermajority and cracking of the opposition seems to have happened during the past year.  And has now manifested itself as popular unwillingness to tolerate the public arguments about whether women have the right, competence, whatever any longer.  

    This is Victory.

    Now to win the war to  completion.

    What is left is the nationwide 24% reactionary bloc of voters, the Republican core constituency.   We see them in that polling above about a barring Constitutional Amendment in that 12%+13% in favor or undecided.  They still have the second prong of the abortion argument, which isn't decided.  That's the one about there being a social calamity, or reflection of social calamity, in the absolute numbers of abortions that take place.

    That bloc's size is too small for victory in the overall battle.  But they're sufficient in number to leverage the Republican Party into blocking rollback of the many access restrictions and such.  That's their bargaining chip or set of chips.

    I think we'll see Republicans and anti-choicers regroup around the social problems reflected by high numbers of abortions.  And retrench in defenses constituted of the state level restrictions and harassments they got through in the past five to ten years.  Dealing with those will be piecemeal battles.  And it won't be about upper middle class women or even middle class women much, it will about the dismal problems of working class and poor women in the crappiest (aka Purple and Red) parts of the country.  Liberal policies and approaches will get their chance to prove their effectiveness.

  •  They have not surrendered on Abortion, they simply (1+ / 0-)
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    offer us a lesser evil.

    Abortion is a right for every woman. We shouldn't have to be RAPED to exercise our choice!

  •  Where are the Purity Pledgers when you need them? (0+ / 0-)

    Why aren't the candidates and delegates forced to sign a Platform Purity Pledge - like Norquist's abomination or Vander Plaats' anti-gay hate document? Surely, on something as important as this - the far-right hate groups wrote the American Taliban platform - they should demand abject submission from the leadership. Please?

  •  Akin's views (1+ / 0-)
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    I think that the republican outcry against Akin was more about his use of the word "legitimate" and his crazy take on biology, not his stance on abortion.  There really is two issues there.

  •  Have they? (0+ / 0-)

    I worry that the grounds have been ceded so far that there's discussion now about what conditions an abortion can be performed subsequent to a rape.  Sometimes it sounds to me that it's been ceded that other abortions are off limits.  Otherwise, there'd be no reason to talk about "in the case of rape" and the weird contortions about having to prove a rape, &c.

    "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Eldredge Cleaver, Black Panther Party (quoted by Paul Ryan without proper attribution)

    by Land of Enchantment on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 11:59:02 AM PDT

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