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Apparently the Ron Paul Revolution was a text book case of what the Chinese called "Paper Tigers"

After all of this tough talk, brinksmanship, and jaw-jutting pugnaciousness, when show time came, it was all just talk. The Paulites followed orders, fell into step and sold out every principle they claimed to champion.

I was kind of rooting for them. Not for the usual cynical reasons that they would undermine Romney candidacy, but because I was hoping to see at least ONE group stand up to the moneyed establishment. I wanted to see one group actually stand on principle.

The conventional wisdom is that "everyone has a price". This does not shock me. What shocks me is how low the price is.

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  •  Digby, as usual, summarizes my feelings (13+ / 0-)

    pretty well:

    The truth is that they gamed the system and the system gamed them right back, neither side giving a moment's thought to the spirit of democracy. This disrespect for the democratic principle of one person one vote pretty much defines all factions of the Republican Party.

    "The smartest man in the room is not always right." -Richard Holbrooke

    by Demi Moaned on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 07:19:16 AM PDT

    •  Perfectly put (9+ / 0-)

      "They f*ked us while we were trying to f*k them" is not a cry that will engender a lot of sympathy.  Hopefully the Paulites will disabuse themselves of any notion that they belong in the party of billionaires and radical fundamentalists, and slink off to form their own splinter party.

      For the love of money is the root of all evil; and while some have coveted after it, they have erred from the faith and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. (1 Timothy 6:10)

      by Dallasdoc on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 07:21:53 AM PDT

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      •  slinking off to form their own splinter party: (5+ / 0-)
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        Something we should encourage.

        We should encourage them to not-vote-for-Romney, but to write-in the name Ron Paul on their ballots.

        "If the Party won't count your votes, stand up and make the election itself count your votes!"

        Every two votes we can take away from Mitt are equivalent to one more vote for Obama, and the reverse is also true per my sig.  

        "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

        by G2geek on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 07:56:02 AM PDT

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      •  For this election it would be great if a bunch of (2+ / 0-)
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        them (nationwide, not just convention delegates) peeled off and went to the Libertarian party.
        I guess we have yet to hear what Paul himself will do.
        If he's hoping Rand can wrest control of the party from the WallStree/Neocons, this latest may disabuse him of that notion, so he may indicate he's voting for the libertarian (it's Gary Johnson, I think).
        Maybe he will equivocate thru the election or offer weak praise of Romney. That will help a bit. This may help with downballot races
        I don't see him jumping enthusiastically on Romney's bandwagon, he's not the Obama-hater the rest of the gops are,

        You can't make this stuff up.

        by David54 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:05:37 AM PDT

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        •  He won't for the same reason (0+ / 0-)

          his followers didn't. When it comes down to it, he just doesn't really believe in what he says, not enough to inconvenience himself by becoming the Ralph Nader of the GOP.

          There is too much money to be had by not rocking the boat. The Wall Street oligarchy will reward him well for his "pragmatism". He'll get a think tank job where he can make speeches no one will listen to, and write books no one will read.

          Paul pretty much signaled his surrender when he agreed to speak via video rather than live.

          •  The consensus has been that he's taking a back (0+ / 0-)

            seat in exchange for Rand getting speaking time, and that he's not going off on his own for Rand's sake in the gop.
            However, this may change the calculus on that.
            But I"m speculating. You're probably right, this movement will fizzle and be swallowed by the gop once again.

            You can't make this stuff up.

            by David54 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 11:41:43 AM PDT

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            •  ps the only reason I care is that I hope there's a (0+ / 0-)

              complete disaster in the gop this year that gives the House back to the Dems, holds the Senate and rides the President  into a second term on a landslide.

              You can't make this stuff up.

              by David54 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 11:43:44 AM PDT

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      •  I watched the twitter tag RNCpowergrab and (1+ / 0-)
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        perused the Daily Paul blog yesterday.  There was some serious disappointment when their fantasy of making a big stink, simply fell apart.  It wasn't even as wild as air left out of a balloon.

        If they actually had a "liberty movement" why didn't ALL the Ron Paul delegates walk out when they wanted to protest the rules?

        They could have left 2 or 3 leaders from each state there to read out the vote tally and the rest walked out of the room.  They would have made their point.  Instead they planned on yelling louder than the majority, never thinking that the convention management would be turning mics on and off through out the votes and the roll call.

        Listening to their reactions, for just a few hours, I'd say they are about 1/3 for changing registration from GOP to independent, 1/3 to stay in the GOP and vote for Gary Johnson, and 1/3 to write in Ron Paul, whatever they decide to do about their GOP registration.

        Most had little recognition that there was anything else to consider, and that they weren't the only "grass roots" boots in the room.

        What none of them seemed to recognize is that Ron Paul played a curmudgen role in the congress for 36 years, but actually accomplished very little.  That fact escapes them, yet they delude themselves into thinking they understand politics well enough to wield political power.

        Very, very few mentioned voting for Obama as a punishment and most already view Rand Paul as a sell out.

    •  Concise and true, (0+ / 0-)

      sad to say.

  •  Well, I saw Ron Paul being interviewed (11+ / 0-)

    on Fox yesterday and he said he wouldn't endorse the Romney-Ryan ticket and refused to say whether or not he'd vote for it. He also left the possibility of voting for the libertarian candidate open. I expect his acolytes will follow suit.

    "I had seen the universe as it begins for all things. It was, in reality, a child's universe, a tiny and laughing universe." Loren Eiseley

    by cadejo4 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 07:20:47 AM PDT

    •  I agree. (4+ / 0-)
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      I have seen several comments on other blogs pointed in that direction.

      It may only count for, at most, 1%, but that maybe all that Obama needs.

    •  Goodie!, more of that please! (3+ / 0-)
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      Our job is to go undercover and encourage more of that attitude.

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 07:56:36 AM PDT

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    •  He still talks his usual game (2+ / 0-)
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      but I think the floor fight etc rules fight would have gone on longer if Ron Paul didn't have a son named Rand Paul already in Congress.  He knew any 'rebellion' with actual teeth in it would endanger his son's career.

      Dear budget cutting GOP'ers: Public transit is my “car.” And frankly, I’d like it back.

      by imfunnytoo on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:27:23 AM PDT

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    •  At this point, no one cares (1+ / 0-)
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      He had his chance to make his mark by fighting on the convention floor. He chose to go quietly instead.

      •  It seems important to me. (0+ / 0-)

        It would be like one of our primary candidates telling his or her backers to vote for Nader. A few votes siphoned off in a crucial state can make a world of difference.

        "I had seen the universe as it begins for all things. It was, in reality, a child's universe, a tiny and laughing universe." Loren Eiseley

        by cadejo4 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:38:24 AM PDT

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      •  He seems especially whiny, given that they did (0+ / 0-)

        give him a speaking slot, but wanted to vet the speech.  If he was sincere, he would have written his speech, let them vet it, then took the podium and tell the whole world that they rewrote 80% of his speech, so much so that he decided he couldn't give the speech.

        Ron Paul is a con artist, who finished his career by making the smallest possible waves, and leaving his devoted volunteers high and dry.

    •  An ambitious contrarian to the end - what a (0+ / 0-)


      36 years, with little to show in the way of accomplishment, but for a spirited fan-club Ron Paul would already be just another retiring member of Congress.

      Yet his "followers" think that, despite the fact that he didn't win even A SINGLE state or territory, that they understand politics well enough to obliterate millions of primary voters' ballots, because Ron Paul was clever enough to teach them about a wrinkle in the rules.

  •  Ron Paul is pretty much a Randian Objectivist. (2+ / 0-)
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    As far as I know.  They LOVE the moneyed establishment, as long as the money was not illegally obtained.

  •  No surprise (4+ / 0-)
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    Last year, I felt that if he could play the small ball in Iowa and win the caucuses, he'd gain the critical mass to be a real thorn in their side.  Then he went soft here and kind of bailed on the caucus campaign before it was over, as though it wasn't his only shot at getting traction.  After that, it was just his dumbass followers whining that they were really the ones winning state after state in spite of the fact that he wasn't winning anything.  They were never going to grow into anything besides a little sideshow once he lost the caucuses.  

    He needed to do what Obama did in 2007 and go all in for a win with retail politics.  Instead he did a little of that and a little of a weak national campaign at the same time and never won anything.  Not only are his ideas juvenile, he's not really even a very good politician.  He seems like a real idiot to me.  

    When the truth is only a matter of opinion, advantage goes to the liars.

    by Sun dog on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 07:55:45 AM PDT

  •  hopefully... (1+ / 0-)
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    they will vote for Gary Johnson for President!

    Obama 2012...going to win it with our support!!!

    by mattinjersey on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:45:12 AM PDT

  •  Ron Is Walking The Tight Rope..... (0+ / 0-)

    He's an old dog, an old poppa w/ an eye to protecting his son's career.  He'll take it to the line, then put the kid first.


  •  the reason is simple (0+ / 0-)

    The most successful GO Peers have one common trait. It can be described best as "Stay The Course." Dick the Cheney, Karl Rove, Mitch McConnell, Raul Pyan, and other learned this lesson, and stick to it.  

    THe unfortunate side effect is even more pronounced and visible. The more wrong their stance or direction is, the harder they work to maintain it. (See Bush's administration as a prime example)

    The Romneyites stayed the course far stronger, with more energy and determination than Ron Paul and his little band of libertine libertarians could ever muster, mister, and their master, Wittster Romney won out.

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:56:14 AM PDT

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