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ThinkProgress caught Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback this morning admitting to MSNBC's Kris Jansing, that Mitt Romney's welfare ads are a lie.

Here's the key part:
JANSING: But you agree that these claims that the work requirement has been abolished are false?

BROWNBACK: As far as I have seen, but I don’t know all of the basis to it. [Blah, blah, big government blah, blah.]

The directive from President Obama doesn't abolish the work requirement at all, but gives governors the kind of flexibility plenty of Republican governors have been demanding to restructure the work requirements for receiving welfare assistance. In fact, a couple of Republican governors, including Michigan's Mitch Snyder and Utah's Gary Herbert admit they asked for that flexibility, though neither were put on the spot like Brownback to admit the big lie.

Every fact checker who's bothered to check has debunked the ads, which the Romney campaign refuses to pull.  Because, after all, as Meteor Blades writes, they say it's "their most effective ad" and they're "not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers."

Meaning they're not going to let the campaign be constrained by anything like the truth.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:24 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  all they have left are their lies (21+ / 0-)
    Every fact checker who's bothered to check has debunked the ads, which the Romney campaign refuses to pull.  Because, after all, as Meteor Blades writes they say it's "their most effective ad" and they're "not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers."

    Don't roof rack me bro', Now the brown's comin' down; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Ensanguining the skies...Falls the remorseful day".政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:27:45 AM PDT

  •  Truth is NOT an Option (21+ / 0-)

    if you are a Republican running for office.  If they told the truth, no one would vote for them outside the crazy racist members of the base and the very rich.

    •  Not only must the GOP lie, (19+ / 0-)

      but they must suppress the vote to have a chance of winning.  The GOP is so wrong for the American middle class, working families, and consumers, that the Republicans must cheat to win!

      The RNC convention is about "putting lipstick on the pig" that is Romney-Ryan.

      -4.75, -5.33 Cheney 10/05/04: "I have not suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

      by sunbro on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:38:15 AM PDT

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    •  Dems have to lie as well: the truth is ALWAYS (0+ / 0-)

      a third rail and will make them skeered.

      The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

      by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:08:56 AM PDT

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      •  politics is at its heart always corrupt (3+ / 0-)
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        but the Democrats have a little less to lie about.   Whenever huge sums of money are going to pass hands, liars and crooks will congregate.   WIth the huge sums of money comes power, power brokers and the powerless.

        I think until humans make progress at recognizing their social nature as well as their individual identity and emphasizing the social aspects of existence, we will have problems creating systems that can address greed, ego and the unfortunate ability of those without conscience to game virtually any system and profit from it.

        But in a system that forces me to choose sides, I know which side I stand on.   Democrats do favor policies that will help the least fortunate more than any Republican policy, they do favor policies that would grow a more equitable economy (and sharing only five to ten percent of the income the super rich have usurped over the last 40 years would make a large difference to the middle class), and they do favor social policies that are more inclusive and humane.  So they all lie,  I accepted that a long time ago.  But at one point in time, both parties could raise issues for which there was a factual basis and a plausible policy reason to pursue them.  That is no longer the case.

        •  More on the Reality of This Nov. 7th. (1+ / 0-)
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          jfromga

          There are hard numbers on all this and they're not pretty. The other side however is worse.

          We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

          by Gooserock on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:29:31 AM PDT

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        •  But they still aren't 'champions of the truth' (1+ / 0-)
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          jfromga

          Scared shitless of the GOP calling them names, they engage in lying as well.

          This is why we always hear about 'voting for the lesser of two evils'.

          I know a lot of people hre vote for auras and rainbows and sparkles and don't like my obnoxious focus on such practical matters, but little can be done about that.

          Truth and politics are mutually exclusive.

          I mean...can you imagine if facts DID matter?

          The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

          by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:38:36 AM PDT

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          •  I am not troubled by what you said (0+ / 0-)

            I agree with it.  But one of the facts that does matter, is that historically and as of today, this country's political system has been dominated by a binary choice.  While not actually written into the Constitution, virtually immediately, political parties formed, were granted power under the state laws to run elections locally, given special privileges to naming candidates to ballots etc.   We have lived with a two party system ever since.

            Given the fact of increasing polarity and partisanship, bought and paid for by those who would benefit from sophisticated propaganda machines (professional liars), we have reached a point where I fear any current structural attempts to rework the system will result in some sort of neo-fascist, theocratic state and not a better and more egalitarian pluralistic state.

            Again,  science is starting to reveal some things about the brain to us.   The evolutionary recent changes to the brain, the rational, fact based parts of the brain, unfortunately don't control decision making.   The emotional parts of the brain do.  So lies and propaganda which key into emotional responses, win favor before the brain ever starts thinking.  We can be trained to stop, think, examine ideas, theories, etc.,  but the emotional center can't be ignored.

            So all the atavistic, primitive, brutish parts of the human brain aren't going to go away or stop influencing our politics, society or behavior any time soon.   That doesn't mean that we don't have real choices to make, even though all of those choices are less than perfect.

            What we can do is act in ways not limited to politics to influence people into thinking more and emoting less, we can work to make facts matter, to make positive emotional responses, sharing, helping, etc. to win over greed and hate.   Someone the other day posted a quote from Lyndon Johnson when someone used the n-word, that he was going to wipe that word out of use in decent society.  We need to carry on, to move that one goal into an array of goals, to wipe out all expressions of "I got mine" "I built that" etc. out of our society and politics.  There is no "I" just "US", and that us includes the whole damn world and every living thing in it.   When we get there, we can tell the truth without being scared.

        •  disagree with the politics at its heart statement (0+ / 0-)

          politics "at its heart" simply means the business of a community. it's the science of government, or as aristotle said, the affairs of state.

          maybe you mean "playing" politics...which incorporates all the partisan sniping, secret agenda crap, and other shit that is sadly pervasive in today's politicians.

          but not at its heart. not at all. don't fall prey to the anti-"guvmint" hot button campaigns that insidiously warm up people to the idea of making government smaller, and smaller, until noone is running things but coporations, with no control. because that is what undermining real "politics" does.

  •  I'm sure the Obama campaign has refuted (2+ / 0-)
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    effectively. What are folks' take on response ads? Are they running full force in swing states?

  •  wonder when the "Brownback step down" (2+ / 0-)
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    meme will start...

    Brownback is aligned with Huckabee, wonder if he did it on
    purpose or if it was a moment of unintended honesty.  

    "It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment." *Ansel Adams* ."Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."*Will Rogers*

    by Statusquomustgo on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:44:12 AM PDT

  •  Jansing pulls the unwitting nitwit into her web... (4+ / 0-)
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    to feast upon later......Thanx McJoan.

  •  Michigan's Rick Snyder ... nt (0+ / 0-)

    "There were questions that Governor Romney wanted to address to make sure people understood that he's not a felon" - Ed Gillespie (Romney supporter)

    by itswhatson on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:56:41 AM PDT

  •  Brownback says. (6+ / 0-)

    We broke it.  ZERO taxes from rich people.

    Hey Ryan, where you goin' with that trans-vaginal probe in your hand

    by 88kathy on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:57:15 AM PDT

  •  This is why (1+ / 0-)
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    Ann Romney can try as she might (and admittedly she looked great last night) to humanize her husband.  It will not work.  All the words in the world cannot mask his actual deeds, which are dishonorable and nakedly opportunistic.

    •  But Ann said you can trust Mitt and he will not (1+ / 0-)
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      fail, but we don't know what it is that he's trying to do beyond setting up his own dynasty financially.  He probably has enough money to declare himself King of the Caymans, an area much more manageable than this messy democracy that doesn't care about his memos or firings of the office help.  He doesn't have a clue about foreign policy or folding a US flag correctly.  His limitations as a national leader are painfully obvious.  He has no core to inform any questions to the generals, intelligence staff, or SD staff.

      Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Islands, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

      by judyms9 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:43:52 AM PDT

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  •  I just posted a similar diary about Avik Roy (2+ / 0-)
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    I just published a similar diary but about Romney adviser Avik Roy, who not only confessed that the ad is a lie on "Real Time" but elaborated in detail. Check it out:
    http://www.dailykos.com/...

  •  They'll never pull it, because it works for them. (3+ / 0-)
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    Reminds me of this:

    During one of Lyndon Johnson's congressional campaigns he decided to spread a rumor that his opponent was a pig-f#cker. LBJ's campaign manager said, "Lyndon, you know he doesn't do that!" Johnson replied, "I know. I just want to make him deny it."

    He only employs his passion who can make no use of his reason. - Cicero

    by SpamNunn on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:02:13 AM PDT

  •  Thanks Joan (1+ / 0-)
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    diggerspop

    The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

    by a2nite on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:02:30 AM PDT

  •  Someone needs to make an ad (7+ / 0-)

    accusing them of racism in running their welfare ads.

    Call Mitt Romney a racist lying to white people to make them hate the black President. Right to his entitled smug face.

    Romney economics: Feed our seed corn to the fattest pigs and trust them to poop out jobs.

    by blue aardvark on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:02:46 AM PDT

  •  I get so sick hearing Medicaid Medicare and SS (3+ / 0-)
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    are putting a debt burden on our children's backs, what about the tax breaks the Repugs want to give the Rich, now lets talk about a debt burden those put on our children's backs.

  •  Welfare a racial wedge issue for Repubs (2+ / 0-)
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    and now one of their own has been caught out. Rarely do these people tell the truth, but every once in a while their nasty disgusting politics show through. That's okay, Anne Romney talked about "love."

    By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. -George carlin

    by shutter1972 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:03:49 AM PDT

    •  Every time food stamps come up I want to (1+ / 0-)
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      scream at Dems for not pointing out that many military families receive them and that many families having those scores of kids the GOP wants here but doesn't want to feed are also receiving them.  Their railing against troops and kids should not stand them in good stead even if they don't give a whit about the poor in general.

      Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Islands, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

      by judyms9 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:48:17 AM PDT

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  •  This double-talking a-hole is the Gov of my state. (5+ / 0-)
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    Kansas - where ignorance is cultivated on an industrial scale.

  •  Joseph Goebbels (1+ / 0-)
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    "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
    -- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945

    Notice: This Comment © 2012 ROGNM

    by ROGNM on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:04:45 AM PDT

    •  I wondered when the Republicans would finally (3+ / 0-)
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      take that last step of full blown propaganda by openly telling people that they are lying. Goebbels realized that once you can tell people that you are lying, and they still believe you, the propaganda is complete.

      Even the smallest dog can lift its leg on the tallest building. Jim Hightower

      by shoeless on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:14:54 AM PDT

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    •  Exactly and then as I read about how Goebbels (1+ / 0-)
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      ended his life, how his wife ended their children's lives in the Bunker and more......it can be a metaphor for what happened to the Republican Party that used to be once long ago and how the teabagger figuratively killed off the moderates in the party.

      Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

      by wishingwell on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:15:44 AM PDT

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  •  The debates are coming. (6+ / 0-)

    How will Romney defend the welfare lie and the medicare lie when he is face to face with president Obama?

    •  bald-faced disgusting lies that won't be fact- (1+ / 0-)
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      checked by the Liberal Media.

      The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

      by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:17:38 AM PDT

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    •  Not to mention another whopper they keep repeating (2+ / 0-)
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      "Obama got everything he wanted and the economy still failed." Oh yeah, Obama got "everything" all right, if by everything you mean a record number of filibusters and absolutely NO Republican votes on anything significant.

      stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

      by Mother Mags on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:19:23 AM PDT

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    •  brazenly (0+ / 0-)

      just like every R on every show so far.

      I'll suggest Obama try the line, when asked to respond to it:  'I feel compelled more to REVIEW it, because that's what you do with FICTON.'

      We have no desire to offend you -- unless you are a twit!

      by ScrewySquirrel on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:22:50 AM PDT

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    •  Debates are on TV. Home court advantage to RNC. (0+ / 0-)

      The Tom Brokaws, Wolf Blitzers, John Kings, David Gregorys, and Candy Crowleys of the world will suck up just like they always do.

      However, Chris Matthews will not be alone in calling BS.  It looks like Soledad O'Brien will jump in, and of course we always have Rachel Maddow!  We just need to have them get more air time!

      When the debates were hosted and moderated by the League of Women Voters, they were credible.  Now the R's dictate the format.  W had his own teleprompter, which he needed even though it wasn't a "debate" it was a sequence of short talking points.

      I think that Republicanism is revealing itself as a personality disorder, not so much an ideology." -- Naomi Klein

      by AllanTBG on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:39:45 AM PDT

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    •  Romney will simply do what he always does. (0+ / 0-)

      He'll just throw out some meaningless generalities.

      Even the smallest dog can lift its leg on the tallest building. Jim Hightower

      by shoeless on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:58:50 AM PDT

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    •  I can't wait for them to debate! Obama will drill (0+ / 0-)

      him a new one while enlarging the old one!

  •  "But you agree that these claims about work (3+ / 0-)
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    requirements being abolished are false??
    "As far as I have seen but I don't know all of the basis to it..."

    So what he was saying was that everything he has seen about the claim that the work requirement was abolished is false but if you look at the whole picture there might be some things that Republicans claimed that will turn out to be true along with all those falsehoods, lies, and whoppers.

    Slow thinkers - keep right

    by Dave the Wave on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:07:32 AM PDT

  •  WTF does the truth matter? (2+ / 0-)
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    Truth is a lot like facts: Truth and facts mean jack shit in politics.

    This is why the GOP lies like there is no tomorrow.

    Why do AMERICANS allow themselves to be lied to and why do they ignore the refutations?

    (it's why marijuana is still illegal, you know, as well as damaging a whole lot of issues people here care about).

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:07:35 AM PDT

  •  Mitch Snyder? (0+ / 0-)

    You meant Rick Snyder.

  •  I wonder if Brownback is one of the Governors (1+ / 0-)
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    who asked for the welfare waiver. If so, he'll probably say that it was a lowly staffer who did it without his knowledge.

    Even the smallest dog can lift its leg on the tallest building. Jim Hightower

    by shoeless on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:09:45 AM PDT

  •  Can't expect anything else (0+ / 0-)

    From a party that themed a whole convention night around "We Built That Quote."

  •  He didn't build that. (3+ / 0-)
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    Romney can't win against the real Obama. So he's running against the GOP-constructed pseudo-version of Obama. The Dem convention will be dominated by people mocking Romney for his biggest lies. Can't wait!

    Mitt/Twit - 2012 - Don't Tax Me, Bro!

    by kitebro on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:11:06 AM PDT

  •  If a campaign cannot be trusted... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...to tell the truth, how can anyone trust them to run the country. That has to be asked FRONT AND CENTER of the Romney campaign. They can project that all they want, but how is anyone going to believe them once the fact that they lied so badly get exposed so wildly? And how is Romney going to hold up defending the lie once the president confronts him on it during at least one of the debates?

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandhi

    by alaprst on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:13:25 AM PDT

  •  The truth doesn't matter (1+ / 0-)
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    That's what Republicans are trying to prove this election. If liars spend ten times more money, they can pound so many lies into the heads of enough stupid Fox zombies that they'll think Obama is an African Muslim on a secret quest to turn America into a Marxist commune.

    Guess what? It's working.

    Mitt Romney is like a wooden board with a face painted on it. He doesn't pass the laugh test, the smell test, or the Turing test

    by jimbo92107 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:14:14 AM PDT

  •  I think the GOP is seeing a lot of scrutiny over (3+ / 0-)
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    those ads, and it is reflecting in more critical questions in interviews.  They are unable to get a clear message out because they are always on the defensive whether the issue is Bain, tax returns, birther coddling, or good ol' welfare.

    I personally don't think the welfare ads work too well.  It connects with Romney because it is a Nixon era concept. Right now, I think more and more people are recognizing that the welfare ad is a lie and are looking at it skeptically. When McCain made his big comeback against Romney, he did it because a critical mass of people started to realize that Romney was peddling shit. After that Romney went into free fall because he had nothing other than his money and negative ads.  Same thing will happen here.

    Alternative rock with something to say: http://www.myspace.com/globalshakedown

    by khyber900 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:14:27 AM PDT

  •  Their wall of stupid weakening-Santorum said (2+ / 0-)
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    to Andrea Mitchell last night is was dumb of the Governors to ask for this. Maybe GOP Governors don't like to be bus fodder

    The 1st Amendment gives you the right to say stupid things, the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee a paycheck to say stupid things.

    by JML9999 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:15:33 AM PDT

  •  Its a signal (4+ / 0-)
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    ...The Republicans and their SuperPACS will be running on the Goebbels platform: Repeat a huge lie so much and so often that enough people believe it.

    I also think they're going t go full-bore racist this campaign.  The only thing that would be surprise me is if they actually dare to burn a cross on the White House lawn.

    And even then, I would only be surprised at the audacity, not the sentiment

    We have no desire to offend you -- unless you are a twit!

    by ScrewySquirrel on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:18:00 AM PDT

  •  Two other pieces of good news for Obama (2+ / 0-)
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    Oil prices are dropping because there is a bit more domestic supply. This should mean that gas prices level off during September and October.  Have to see Isaac's full impact but so far I haven't heard of any incidents with respect to offshore wells or supply lines.

    Second piece of good news is that GDP for Q2 was revised upward to 1.8%.  Given that Q1 was 2% and had some promising job growth and Q3 is off to a better start than Q2, people's views of the economy going into October are likely to be more on the 'glass half full' side.

    Alternative rock with something to say: http://www.myspace.com/globalshakedown

    by khyber900 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:23:34 AM PDT

  •  The GOP govs probably want (2+ / 0-)
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    to establish welfare chain gangs - and the administation memo allows for that.  But the Romney ads claim the opposite.  I have to believe that at some point this is going to blow up on them.  There has to be a respected journalist somewhere that is going to say enough is enough and call out this BS for what it is.

  •  The Debates (3+ / 0-)
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    Just how is Romney supposed to handle five minutes of a debate with Obama?  Obama's going to call him on this big lie, first thing.  Romney's never in his life faced hard questioning about anything, his money has protected him from that.  Don't count the pygmy Republicans trying to win the "how low can I go" ultraconservative vote during the nomination debates.  Don't count the wiggle room he gave himself when he was a liberal/moderate/compassionate-conservative back in the day.  He's made his bed with the ultraconservatives.  He has to toe the line or lose his base.  I have a hunch that this will be the first presidential election for time out of mind without any debates.  Romney won't release his tax returns, which is a big break from tradition.  He won't debate Obama.  I put the odds at 3-to-2 that there will be no debates.

    Please feel free to HR me for my informative and argumentative nature. 'To know what is right and to do it are two different things.' - Chushingura, a tale of The Forty-Seven Ronin

    by rbird on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:37:32 AM PDT

    •  One thing that concerns me, (0+ / 0-)

      once the convention is over and his is their nominee.  Officially.  Then when he starts to tack toward the center, the rabid base will realize they are stuck with him.  What are they going to do, vote for Obama? That's as likely as Ed Begley Jr. driving a Hummer.They will vote for what they perceive as the lesser of two evils.

      •  %ninenutz (0+ / 0-)

         There is no loss for the Repubs to pretend to tack to the center. They are already doing it sporatically with isolated walk back comments on abortion restrictions. The independent voters whom are center - near right don't want the "no exceptions" policy, so these sporatic walkbacks are designed to confuse them enough to get them back into the fold at least until voting time.

  •  This is why everyone who considers themselves (3+ / 0-)
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    judyms9, shoeless, ninenutz

    to be an educated, well rounded socially liberal person ought to strive to be perfectly astute on the subject of the history of slavery and racism in the United States. Colleges offer Black History courses all the time. The class should actually be called REAL American History 101. Being black is sometimes not even enough to understand it all.

    Black people are generally not taken seriously because of this long, twisting history if racism, hate and stereotypes. Not taken seriously as human beings that have every right to their personal dignity and autonomy. If the police in this country got away with killing and brutalizing thousands of black teenagers in my youth and still today, telling and outright, baldfaced lie on the black president of the United States. That's nothing. The racists are extremely disrespectful and particularly gleeful in their nastiness when they put down the first lady. The history of black women as property and in some kind of servile position is etched in their minds. They feel free to proverbially spit on her. When she's in a respected position because her husband was elected in a free democracy, they can't stand it. They want to snatch her down from what they see as a pedestal. The nerve of Michelle Obama to be so awesome. It's like they want to throw mud at her like jealous teen girls ganging up on the pretty girl who stole their boyfriend. It's ridiculous.

    That people believe those ads doesn't surprise me a bit. They WANT to. Welcome to America. The raging racism monster is upon us all now that a black person has gotten himself elected president. It's not up to black people to eradicate it. It's up to white people to know racism 101 like any other subject they study and realize that it's not just a problem for ethnic folks. It's affecting us all now.

    "It's not enough to acknowledge privilege. You have to resist." -soothsayer

    by GenXangster on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:38:47 AM PDT

  •  Really can't bear it (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    Can't watch a second of their convention . . . just hearing them, or seeing one of their ads literally makes me feel so fucking sad. I am just so very, very appalled, angry, frightened even that this kind of mendacity (thanks Big Daddy) passes for political discussion in a country like this.

  •  I threw up in my mouth (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    a little bit last night as I watched Artur Davis spouting off about how Obama gutted the work requirement from Welfare and that he and the Democrats are now lying about it.

    Talk about projection!  I can't imagine how he stood so still for the rest of his speech with his trousers ablaze...

    Arrrr, the laws of science be a harsh mistress. -Bender B. Rodriguez

    by democracy inaction on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:45:55 AM PDT

  •  I work at a religious non-profit (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    and we had a prayer service this morning.  The question asked was why do we pray?

    Not everyone on staff is a member of the religious organization, some are not religious at all.  But the consensus was that we pray because it unites us as human beings.  Because our common purpose is justice and care for others.

    I look at those 'holy Republicans" like Brownback and I have to wonder why they pray.  Justice and care do not seem to be in their vocabularies.

  •  The headline fooled me into believing that (0+ / 0-)

    that sleazy, smarmy excuse for a human being had changed his evil ways. It takes some serious listening to hear him actually admit it. He sure didn't make a definitive statement of the fact. It's not in his DNA.

    Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

    by HappyinNM on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 09:49:33 AM PDT

  •  Clearly a lie & defamatory. Get an injunction. (0+ / 0-)

    Romney: Wrong on GM. Wrong on bin Laden. Wrong on taxes. Wrong on austerity. Wrong on Medicare. Wrong for America.

    by SGWM on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 10:00:00 AM PDT

  •  This is a great line of attack on Mitt's lies. (2+ / 0-)
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    Find the Republican Governors who asked for a waiver and ask them:

    So, you asked for a waiver on welfare work requirement I see? Why did you do that, don't you want people to fulfill their work requirement to collect welfare?
    They'll have to undermine Romney's lies to save their own political skin.

    You're not being "oppressed" when another group gains rights you've always enjoyed.

    by Scott Wooledge on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 10:01:08 AM PDT

  •  Truth and Repuglicans (0+ / 0-)

    go together the same as

    Cats and Dogs

    Who do you believe, Waffle Willard or Lyin' Ryan???

    by Da Rock on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 10:01:11 AM PDT

  •  Republicans know that you pay a price for honesty. (0+ / 0-)

    Lies are free.

    Even the smallest dog can lift its leg on the tallest building. Jim Hightower

    by shoeless on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 10:01:19 AM PDT

  •  Calling Karl Rove: (0+ / 0-)

    Your minions didn't memorize the script that you wrote.

    The truth shall set you free, right Sam Brownback?

    "Do they call you Rush because you're in a rush to eat?" -"Stutterin' John" Melendez to Rush Limbaugh.

    by Nedsdag on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 10:30:16 AM PDT

  •  Of course, it's propaganda (0+ / 0-)

    My Take? The Big Lie:

    http://www.theamericanhuman.com/...

  •  This is soooooo funny (1+ / 0-)
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    given Rmoney's welfare attack on Obama.  
    Next thing you know, the Teapugs of Tampa will be wearing white sheets and burning a cross.

    Crackers you say?

    The floating party, hosted by a Florida developer on his yacht "Cracker Bay," was one of a dozen exclusive events meant to nurture those who have raised more than $1 million for Romney's bid.
    fits right into the welfare attacks coming from the Teapugs.

    Mr. Boehner, where are the jobs?

    by Tx LIberal on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 10:40:20 AM PDT

  •  yes (0+ / 0-)

    the gop has a plan, cut taxes on the rich and let everyone else rot on the vine, the deficit is large because gwb 43 cut taxes during a war not because the poor are milking the system, increase taxes on the wealthy so they pay their share, cut defense spending at least 20%,  and raise the minimum wage to $10.50 an hour and problem solved, not hard unless you are a 1% and don't give a dam about anyone lower than thee on the economic ladder.

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