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This is a great 27 minute documentary on the Libyan Revolution:
VICE Founder Shane Smith takes you into the heart of the Libyan revolution, where the stakes are simple: victory or death. We head into rebel-controlled eastern Libya, traveling from the Egyptian border to Benghazi and then onto the front lines in Misrata to document the violent revolution.

Hosted by Shane Smith | Originally aired in 2011 on

The slogan "Win or Die" was first heard on the streets of Benghazi, it now echoes through out Syria. I think it should soon be the slogan of us all if we are to salvage the future of humanity on the planet Earth from those who are presently destroying it.

Remember that a year ago, Libya looked like Syria today, so their is hope:

From QW Magazine we have this assessment of the Libyan Revolution:

Libya’s Revolution, One Year Later

by Nada Elfeituri on Feb 16, 2012 • 7:59 pm

Driving through Benghazi, everything seems deserted. No cars, no people, the only sound is the wind blowing through empty streets. Take a turn into Dubai Street, pickup trucks full of soldiers are ordering anyone outside to go home. There’s a glimpse of something going on at the end of the road. It looks like a group of people, and they’re coming closer. One of them is holding up a makeshift sign with the slogan ‘peaceful protest’ scrawled in Arabic. As they come closer, it becomes apparent. In Gaddafi’s Libya, a place where protests would never go unpunished, the people of Benghazi have taken to the streets.

Across Libya, 17th February marked the beginning of the end for the tyrannical regime that ruled the country with an iron fist for 42 years. What those protesters didn’t know on that fateful day was that they would soon clash with Gaddafi’s forces, paid mercenaries that were ordered to shoot on sight. They could not foresee the mounting death toll as young men took a stand in front of Benghazi’s main military barrack, and lost their lives for it. They could never have imagined that this defiance would lead to an all-out war that would embroil the rest of the world.

Benghazi’s story of those days is only a chapter in what would become one of the most momentous events in Libya’s history. Across the East, cities fell one by one from Gaddafi’s grasp. In the West, cities like Zintan, Tripoli and Misrata would hold their own protests, decrying the violence being committed against their fellow countrymen. Anger, blood, tears, hope and finally, freedom, would be the legacy of this uprising.

On the eve of February 17, looking back over the course of last year, the changes that have occurred still fill me with awe. The fear and hopelessness that once defined Libya as a country has almost been completely eradicated. Instead, there is the aim of progress, the collective hope of a better tomorrow. Libyans now do not live for the present, but for the future, a future where people are equal, and the government protects the interests of the country instead of exploiting them.
There is change, however, sometimes overlooked, but still takes you by surprise when you notice it. We CAN challenge the government, we CAN make our opinions known and our voices heard. One year ago, typing an anti-regime slogan on Facebook or Twitter wasn’t even up for consideration by many.

Libya won’t be able to undo 42 years of damage in a year, or even five years. But the process has already begun. Women are asserting their role in society and in the government, demanding more representation. Dozens of newspapers, magazines and organizations are making the most of free speech, daring the citizens to raise their own voices. There’s a new atmosphere dominating the Middle East, a desire to once again be at the forefront of civilization, and Libya is determined to be at the head.

They said a revolution in Libya was impossible; the very idea was laughed at. And yet, here we are, one year later, rebuilding a nation. Years from now, I expect, Libya will still continue to defy expectations. More...

Afrol News remembered why the Libyan people revolted in the first place:
Libya economy reveals basis for protests

 While the Libyan economy drowns in petrodollars and its "Great leader" Muammar al-Ghaddafi buys support abroad, almost half of its youth are unemployed. The non-oil sector is tiny.

Libya is the richest North African country. Counted in GDP per capita, Libya indeed is on an Eastern European level.

But that does not reflect the real economy of the average Libyan, with around half the population falling outside the oil-driven economy. The unemployment rate is at a surprising 30 percent, with youth unemployment estimated at between 40 and 50 percent. This is the highest in North Africa.

Also other development indicators reveal that little of the petrodollars have been invested in the welfare of Libya's 6.5 million inhabitants. Education levels are lower than in neighbouring Tunisia, which has little oil, and a surprising 20 percent of Libyans remain illiterate.

Also, decent housing is unavailable to most of the disadvantaged half of the population. A generally high price level in Libya puts even more strains on these households.

But the key of popular discontent is the lack of work opportunities, which strongly contrasts the Libyan image of a rich nation constantly propagated by the regime and its Soviet-style media.

The few options for ordinary Libyans include the police or armed forces, construction works and petty trade. But even here, contacts and corruption are needed to have a chance. More...

These are my articles on the Libyan Revolution:
The Left and the Arab Spring
Libya's elected congress to take power today
The Elections and Libya's Violent Militias
#Libya at the crossroads: The ballot or the bullet
Is Libya better off than it was?
Libyan Elections to be held July 7th
Qaddafi forces Strike Back in Libya
Libya & Syria - two videos - no comment
BREAKING: Libyan High Court strikes down anti-free speech law
Where should Libya's Saif Qaddafi be tried?
MSM plays Hankey Panky with Libya
Qaddafi lies live on after him
Another "Houla style" massacre in Syria
Libya's Qaddafi helped US & Israel against Iran in Olympic Games
Why is Russia demanding NATO boots on the ground in Libya?
#LyElect Libyans register to vote 1st time in 60 years
Libya's Revolution: How We Won - The Internationale in the 21st Century
Good News from Libya
On Libya & Glenn Greenwald: Are the anti-interventionists becoming counter-revolutionaries?
UN: NATO killed 60 civilians in Libya
Libya in the news today
Amnesty International on Libya again
The Current Situation in Libya
Democracy Now & Amy Goodman gets it wrong again.
Why is Chris Hedges calling for "boots on the ground" in Libya?
The Worm Has Turned: Good Film on Libyan Revolution from PressTV
Why NATO's mission in Libya isn't over yet
Libya's Freedom Fighters: How They Won
Racism in Libya
Abdul Rahman Gave his Eyes to See the End of Qaddafi
BREAKING: Secret files reveal Dennis Kucinich talks with Qaddafi Regime
BREAKING: Libyan TNC won't extradite Lockerbie bomber
Who really beat Qaddafi?
#Feb17: @NATO Please help MEDEVAC wounded from #Libya
What should those that opposed NATO's intervention in Libya demand now?
BREAKING: Qaddafi's Tripoli Compound Falls!
Does PDA Support Qaddafi?
BREAKING: Operation Mermaid Dawn, the Battle to Liberate Tripoli is Joined
Helter Skelter: Qaddafi's African Adventure
Qaddafi's Long Arm
SCOOP: My Lai or Qaddafi Lie? More on the 85 Civilians presumed killed by NATO
Did NATO kill 85 Libyan Villagers As Qaddafi Regime Contends?
CCDS Statement on Libya - a Critique
The Assassination of General Abdul Fattah Younis
NATO over Tripoli - Air Strikes in the Age of Twitter
How Many Libyans has NATO Killed?
Qaddafi Terror Files Start to Trickle Out!
Have Libyan Rebels Committed Human Rights Abuses?
Tripoli Green Square Reality Check
Behind the Green Curtain: Libya Today
Gilbert Achcar on the Libyan situation and the Left
NATO slammed for Libya civilian deaths NOT!
2011-07-01 Qaddafi's Million Man March
NATO's Game Plan in Libya
February 21st - Tripoli's Long Night
Did Qaddafi Bomb Peaceful Protesters?
Tripoli Burn Notice
Libyans, Palestinians & Israelis
'Brother' Qaddafi Indicted plus Libya & Syria: Dueling Rally Photofinishs
An Open Letter to ANSWER
ANSWER answers me
2011-06-22 No Libyans allowed at ANSWER Libya Forum
Are they throwing babies out of incubators yet?
Continuing Discussion with a Gaddafi Supporter
Boston Globe oped supports Gaddafi with fraudulent journalism
2011-04-13 Doha summit supports Libyan rebels
Current Events in Libya
Amonpour Plays Softball with Gaddafi
Arming Gaddfi
North African Revolution Continues
Is Libya Next? Anonymous Debates New Operation
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  •  Tip Jar (6+ / 0-)

    Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

    by Clay Claiborne on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 10:43:53 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for this (1+ / 0-)
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    joe from Lowell

    I'd like to see a bigger report on the current situation.

    The rightwingers have been saying that extreme and hostile Muslims would take over the country. That would make a hollow victory, or a real defeat, for the revolution and its Western air cover.

    So what is going on nowadays?

    •  Here's a report from McClatchy who are one (0+ / 0-)

      of the best news sources in the US.

      Islamists attack Libyan school, mosques in challenge to NATO-installed government
      August 29, 1212
      By Mel Frykberg | McClatchy Newspapers

      TRIPOLI, Libya — An estimated 200 heavily armed Islamists destroyed 30 graves at a historic Turkish school in Tripoli’s old city early Wednesday and an unspecified number of other mosques also were attacked, further signs that Libya’s NATO-installed government is facing a major challenge from extremists less than a month after the first elections in this country in 50 years.

      Details of the destruction at the Othman Pasha Madrassa, a boarding school, were sparse, but school staff said the attackers also damaged as many as 1,000 books they found on the premises and destroyed a tree that the attackers said people had been worshipping in contravention of Islamic teachings.
      Members of the police and the Supreme Security Committee, an amalgamation of militias that is the country’s military, stood guard and watched as armed Salafists, followers of a fundamentalist strain of Islam, razed Tripoli’s Sidi Shaab Mosque and the Abdel Salam al Asmar shrine in Zlitan, 100 miles east of Tripoli, over the weekend. Some of the attackers were reported to be serving members of the Supreme Security Committee.

      “If we deal with this using security we will be forced to use weapons, and these groups have huge amounts of weapons,” Abdel Al said. “They are large in power and number in Libya. I can’t enter a losing battle to kill people over a grave."
      Read more here:

      •  "Libya’s NATO-installed government" (2+ / 0-)
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        joe from Lowell, Cynical Copper

        is the usual pro-Qaddafi slander against the thousands of Libyans that died to overthrow Qaddafi and the millions who voted in the new government, so I can guess where McClatchy is coming from and why you are citing him.

        Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

        by Clay Claiborne on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 01:08:31 PM PDT

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      •  Is there any dictator you don't shill for? (1+ / 0-)
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        Clay Claiborne

        Art is the handmaid of human good.

        by joe from Lowell on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 01:13:50 PM PDT

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        •  That report had nothing to do with Gaddafi (0+ / 0-)

          The original Libyan government (NTC) was accepted by the US and other NATO countries and that is what gave it legitimacy. It was not an elected body. The government in Libya has no executive at this time and is basically rudderless until September 8. The Supreme Security Committee is a vestige from the NATO installed NTC.

          Why the Supreme Security Committee must be brought to heel – before it’s too late
          Tripoli, 29 August:

          Many outsiders looking at events in Libya from afar are probably not fully aware of the powerful significance of the recent desecration of Sufi shrines and the dangerous truth that it exposed.
          The interim government, which took power on 22 November last year, is to all intents and purposes the lamest of lame ducks. Not only was it weak anyway, both by virtue of its limited mandate (it was not democratically elected) and by virtue of the practical realities imposed upon it (a weak army, fractured economy, shattered infrastructure and so forth), but it also has at most ten days before its term in office is scheduled to end.

          As for the new National Congress, it only took power on 9 August 2012 and is still finding its feet. At the time of the attacks, Congressmen were still wrangling over the terms of their internal procedures and by-laws, and it is in any event only a legislative, not an executive body.
          Unfortunately, what is now becoming clear is that short of rolling up their shirt-sleeves, dusting off their Kalashnikovs and heading down there personally, Libya’s government ministers could no more have put a stop to the destruction than could you or I.

          The reason for this is now increasingly clear: the government had quite simply lost control. The body tasked with maintaining internal security in Libya, the notionally Interior Ministry-controlled Supreme Security Committee, had either refused point-blank to stop the attacks, or else had been complicit in authorising them in the first place.

          This body of 100,000 former revolutionaries, which likes to call itself the ‘guardian of the revolution’, had not so much become a law unto itself as it had become the law.

          Evidence of the SSC’s complicity in the attacks, and of its defiance of the government, is more than incidental.

    •  Here's a report from the Wall St Journal (0+ / 0-)
      The Real Threat to Libya's New Government
      August 29, 2012

      Emboldened Islamic extremism, not Gadhafi loyalists, could spoil the new Libya's potential.

      All things considered, Libya's revolution hasn't been the disaster it was predicted to be. Fears of inter-factional violence and boycotts were put to rest by a smooth national election and transition period this summer. Over the past year, the National Transitional Council (NTC) government has pacified Libya's regional tribes almost as well as the Gadhafi regime—albeit with political savvy instead of bribery and violence.

      As a result, the new Libya hasn't become pixelated by bloody tribal rivalries, nor has it descended into Iraq-style sectarian violence. At least not yet.
      Emboldened Islamic extremism represents a clear policy failure of the NTC, which has refused to brand the violence as a national threat. Dangerous as they are, Islamists are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to ignored threats to Libya's national security.

      •  It's a good thing nothing bad ever happen before. (2+ / 0-)
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        FG, Clay Claiborne

        I trust you were trolling around, looking for any story about something bad happening in Libya back when Gadhaffi was massacring 1200 prisoners a day.

        Oh, wait, no  you weren't.  You only shit on democratic movements.

        Art is the handmaid of human good.

        by joe from Lowell on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 01:15:45 PM PDT

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        •  I have been following events in Libya on a daily (1+ / 0-)
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          basis since well before the hostilities. Things in Libya are not as rosy as some would like to make it out to be.

          Here's just one of several hundred reports:

          Libyan woman provokes headscarf row in parliament

           Mustafa Abdul Jalil, a former Chairman of Libya's National Transitional Council told Sarah Elmesallati, hosting the handover ceremony, to leave the stage after one of the congressmen walked out because her head was not covered.

          Ms Elmesallati was asked to cover her head midway through her presentation. After she declined, Salah Baadi, an independent congressman from Misurata and prominent Islamist, walked out of the ceremony in protest.

          "After that, an assistant of Jalil came up to me and said 'please, I'm asking you as a daughter, can you please stop'. I begged him to let me continue, but when I walked back on stage, Jalil caught my eye, pointed at me, and signalled for me to go away, so I did", Ms Elmesallati told the Libya Herald.

          The remainder of the ceremony was hosted by a man. Later in his speech Mr Jalil highlighted the importance of freedom of expression in Libya whilst respecting its Muslim traditions.

          The spat provoked debate about the appropriate extent of freedom of expression in the new Libya amongst attendees of the event.

        •  From your wiki link: (1+ / 0-)
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          Allegations of human rights abuses

          Amnesty International has called for an independent inquiry into deaths that occurred there on 29 June 1996,[4] an incident which some have referred to as the Abu Salim prison massacre.[5] Human Rights Watch believes that 1,270 prisoners were killed. HRW also calls the prison a "site of egregious human rights violations."[6] Human Rights Watch also stated in a report that they were unable to independently verify the allegations of a massacre. The claims cited by Human Rights Watch are based on the testimony of a single former inmate, Hussein Al Shafa’i, who stated that he did not witness a prisoner being killed: "I could not see the dead prisoners who were shot..."[7] The figure of over 1200 killed was arrived at by Al Shafa’i allegedly calculating the number of meals he prepared when he was working in the prison's kitchen. Al Shafa'i stated "I was asked by the prison guards to wash the watches that were taken from the bodies of the dead prisoners..." [8]

      •  WSJ has a tendency to see islamists under every (1+ / 0-)
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        Clay Claiborne


        •  Here's a reports from the Libya Herald (2+ / 0-)
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          FG, BigAlinWashSt

          It sees even more Islamists "under the bed".

          Why the Supreme Security Committee must be brought to heel – before it’s too late
          Those responsible for the attacks were Salafists, puritanical Muslims who are closely associated with the Wahabbi form of Islam propagated by Saudi Arabia. The sites are revered by Sufis, whose practice of Islam is abhorred by Salafists. The latter believe that any veneration of human beings or physical objects constitutes idolatry.

          League of Libyan Ulema draws links between Salafists, Saadi Qaddafi and SSC

          The League of Libyan Ulema has issued a statement condemning the recent desecration of Sufi shrines, drawing clear links between those responsible and officials within Libya’s security services.
          The Ulema have also criticised Grand Mufti Sheikh Sadiq Al-Ghariani for issuing a fatwa “legitimisising the destruction of mosques built around a tomb”. The Mufti has condemned the recent desecrations, which have nevertheless focused on shrines enclosing tombs.

          Saudi Arabia is also singled out for criticism in the statement, with the Ulema calling on the government and the National Congress “to pressure the government of Saudi Arabia to restrain its clerics who meddle in our affairs”.

          Reports from the BBC which was arguably the strongest anti-Gaddafi, pro-revolutionary media during the conflict:

          Libya Sufi shrines attacked 'by Islamist hardliners'
          People in Tripoli say they saw bulldozers destroy part of the al-Shaab al-Dahmani mosque and Sufi shrine.

          One, a student named Abdurrahman, told the BBC: "There's a large group of Salafists - they are the one with the bulldozers, and some military police are also present.

          "They seem to be overseeing the process, rather than preventing it... There are some bystanders who seem to approve".

          •  It seems like the security situation is still (1+ / 0-)
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            Claudius Bombarnac

            pretty bad. Armed groups including Salafists do what they want and government is not in control of much of anything. This is the main point of the articles. It's hard to say how influential the Salafists actually are, lack of security seems to be the main problem.

            •  Yes. Even the US State Department has issued (1+ / 0-)
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              a travel warning at this time.


              US State Dept Warns Against Travel to Libya

              Posted on 29 August 2012

              The U.S. Department of State warns U.S. citizens against all but essential travel to Libya.

              The incidence of violent crime, especially carjacking and robbery, has become a serious problem. In addition, political violence in the form of assassinations and vehicle bombs has increased in both Benghazi and Tripoli. This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated September 22, 2011, and notes the resumption of full consular services to U.S. citizens on August 27, 2012.

          •  Yes , we can all see that Libya has a free press (0+ / 0-)


            As I said in The Left and the Arab Springb Spring

            In point of fact there was a hell of a lot more violence going on in Qaddafi's Libya than was ever reported, inside or outside of the country. One victory of the revolution that its detractors have been able to use very effectively to attack the revolution is Libya's new free press. With hundreds of new websites and publications popping up since Qaddafi went down, everything, but everything  gets reported and the the old news slogan "if it bleeds, it leads" is as true in Libya as anywhere else, so every little incident has been available to feed the counter-revolutionary propaganda mill.

            Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

            by Clay Claiborne on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 07:45:48 PM PDT

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            •  Take it up with the US State Department (0+ / 0-)

              All I am doing is reporting facts.


              August 27, 2012

              The Department of State warns U.S. citizens against all but essential travel to Libya. The incidence of violent crime, especially carjacking and robbery, has become a serious problem. In addition, political violence in the form of assassinations and vehicle bombs has increased in both Benghazi and Tripoli. This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated September 22, 2011, and notes the resumption of full consular services to U.S. citizens on August 27, 2012.

              Libyans cast ballots on July 7 in elections deemed to be free and fair according to election observers. Libya’s General National Congress replaced the Transitional National Council in August 2012 and will lead the country until elections are held on the basis of a new constitution. Despite this progress, violent crime continues to be a problem in Tripoli, Benghazi, and other parts of the country. In particular, armed carjacking and robbery are on the rise. In addition, political violence, including car bombings in Tripoli and assassinations of military officers and alleged former regime officials in Benghazi, has increased. Inter-militia conflict can erupt at any time or any place in the country. Seven Iranian Red Crescent officials were kidnapped July 31 in Benghazi by local militia members, and as of the date of this warning, they have not been released. There have also been several reports of militias briefly apprehending and detaining foreigners due to perceived or actual violations of Libyan law. The Embassy’s ability to intervene in such cases remains limited, as these groups are neither sanctioned nor controlled by the Libyan government.

              BTW, there were NO travel warnings for Libya by the US State Department from 2004 until January 2011. I don't have records for previous years.

              Companies that were previously working in Libya have not fully returned. The ones that have do not bring families.

              There's also travel advisories from the UK which are even worse than the US's.

              Still current at: 30 August 2012

              This advice has been reviewed and reissued with amendments to the Travel Summary and the Safety and Security section (explosions in Tripoli).  The overall level of the advice has not changed.  We advise against all but essential travel to Zuwara, Az Zawiya, Tripoli, al Khums, Zlitan and Misrata, and the coastal towns from Ras Lanuf to the Egyptian Border, including Benghazi; we advise against all travel to all other areas of Libya.

              Canada - Travel advisory Libya
              Last Updated: August 22, 2012 12:02 EDT
              Still Valid: August 30, 2012

              OFFICIAL WARNING: Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada advises against non-essential travel to Libya, except for the Sabha and Kufra region, for which we advise against all travel.

              Following a change of regime and government, the political situation remains fragile. Although the security situation appears to have improved, it remains difficult to assess and can change rapidly. Canadians should be vigilant, avoid unnecessary movement and large crowds and demonstrations.

              There is a threat of terrorist attacks in Libya. Maintain a high level of vigilance and personal security awareness, exercise caution, monitor local developments and follow the advice of local authorities.

              Civil unrest and demonstrations

              The security situation remains unpredictable. Canadians should monitor local media reports and avoid public gatherings and all demonstrations, as they may become violent without warning.  Celebratory gunfire since the revolution caused a number of fatalities/injuries as a result of rounds falling from the sky. This has reduced, but in the event of any celebratory gunfire, you should stay indoors if possible.

              Canadians should closely monitor the security situation, take appropriate steps to increase their personal security and limit their movements to daylight hours.

  •  This is off-topic... (3+ / 0-)

    ...but given the general bent of your diaries, probably relevant:

    Egypt's President Attacks Syria in Speech Given From Iran

    In the first visit to Iran by an Egyptian leader since the 1979 revolution, new president Mohammed Morsi took on his host country's closest ally, calling on Syria's Bashar al-Assad to step down. Sitting next to Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad during the opening remarks of the Non-Aligned Movement conference on Thursday, Morsi delivered stinging criticism of the Syrian government, saying that the world has a "moral duty" to support the Syrian opposition "against an oppressive regime that has lost its legitimacy."

    Morsi called on the 120 nations present to "support a peaceful transition" to democratic rule, acknowledging that violence in Syria will not end without outside intervention, adding "the bloodletting in Syria is the responsibility of all of us." His remarks led the Syria delegation to walk out of the conference in the middle of his speech.

    This bears watching, and it will impact the region. I'm sure it is on your radar, Clay, so I look forward to reading your perspective in the coming days and weeks.

    When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Egalitare on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 12:30:47 PM PDT

    •  Yes, this is quite interesting (2+ / 0-)
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      joe from Lowell, Egalitare

      So now two "Arab Spring" revolutions, Libya and now Egypt, are weighing in on the side of the opposition and against Assad.

      Anybody know what stand Tunisia is taking?

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 01:04:54 PM PDT

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      •  Military Intervention in Syria - Pure Madness (0+ / 0-)'Military Intervention in Syria Would Be Pure Madness'

        Interview with Tunisia's Prime Minister

        Ahead of a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin on Wednesday, Tunisian Prime Minister Hamadi Jebali has warned against military intervention in Syria. In an interview with SPIEGEL ONLINE, Jebali also rejects the prospect of Syrian President Assad being exiled to his country.
         SPIEGEL ONLINE: Do you support a military intervention?

        Jebali: Effectively such an intervention already exists. Anyone who supplies the Assad regime with weapons is helping to kill the Syrian people. That is why we in Tunisia are trying to find a way for a counter intervention without spilling more blood.

        SPIEGEL ONLINE: So that means strong words instead of actions against the Assad regime?

        Jebali: Currently a foreign military intervention would be pure madness, and would only throw more oil on the fire and give Bashar al-Assad a pretext that he is desperately looking for to unleash his military even further. We must carefully examine how we can help the Syrian people without causing more damage and making the situation more complicated.

        SPIEGEL ONLINE: But your neighbor Libya would never have been able to bring down the Gadhafi regime without NATO Intervention.

        Jebali: But also in Libya NATO almost tragically miscalculated, success was not a given and was only achieved through a considerable amount of luck. It was the right decision, but it cannot be used as a template for Syria.

    •  Morsi has been calling for Assad's departure (2+ / 0-)
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      since early August. What's newish, and potentially productive, is the repetition of his 15 August call for Iran, KSA and Turkey to join Egypt in discussions about a roadmap to resolve the crisis.

      Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. (Terry Pratchett)

      by angry marmot on Thu Aug 30, 2012 at 02:16:29 PM PDT

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  •  A New Vision for the Libyan Economy (0+ / 0-)
     He stresses that "development of human resources should be given priority at the level of long-term planning, which should take place beginning with improving the quality of education from elementary school up until college, along with specifying the required majors so as to align educational outcomes with the requirements of the [employment] market. For instance, most of our students adopt an unplanned approach by enrolling in medical and engineering schools while we severely lack vocational majors in all [other] fields."

    The minister of planning supports his vision by highlighting "a big dilemma suffered by the Libyan market. We provide more than two million job opportunities to foreigners, most of whom are medium-skilled, while the percentage of unemployment in Libya reaches 40%. This paradox is primarily due to the neglect of vocational education and training over several decades, and the tendency of university graduates to head into government jobs."

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