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That is just one of the many powerful lines from a brilliant op ed in tomorrow'sNew York Time by the fantastic Charles M. Blow.  The piece is titled The G.O.P. Fact Vacuum and begins:

Honesty is a lost art. Facts are for losers. The truth is dead.

Pick one.

The piece has a major focus on the words of Paul Ryan from Thursday night, including the now-viral takedown on by Sally Kohn (who is an unpaid op ed writer there).  After quoting some from Kohn, and from other criticisms of Ryan's prevarications, Blow offers:
So much was written about this and other Republican attempts to distort and deny the truth this week.  But I’m beginning to worry that many Americans are growing weary of isolating the lies, coming as they did in torrents.
 Blow then switches his focus to Romney, and does a comparison between the falsities and exaggerations of the two Presidential candidates, noting of the analysis by Politifact as to ?pants on fire" statements:
Nearly 1 in 10 statements by Romney earned flaming slacks, versus 1 out of every 50 for Obama.”
Blow then challenges with two paragraphs of basic questions:
If we allow our leaders to completely abandon any semblance of honesty, what do we have left? When rancid disinformation stands in the space where actual information should be, what will grow?

And how can a party that incessantly repeats the mantra that our rights were granted by God repeatedly violate a basic tenet of almost every religion: truth-telling? What does it mean when a party that trafficks in American greatness trades in human horridness?

Read the Blow piece.

Pass it on.

Including the final paragraph:

We deserve better and should demand better. We deserve better than a weather vane candidacy that doesn’t care whether it’s being candid. We deserve better than a party and a presidential aspirant so wanton that they refuse to let facts get in the way of a fairy tale.
Or to put it more simply as I did with the quote used for the title of this post:

Propaganda is one thing; prevarication is another.

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  •  Another form of voter suppression; (14+ / 0-)

    courtesy Lee Atwater.

    People get so fed up with the lies they tune out.  And don't vote.

  •  Such hubris to think 100% lie campaign will work (6+ / 0-)

    One pictures Rove and the neocons reveling in "their own reality" or whatever they call their bullshit world.

    I ♥ President Barack Obama.

    by ericlewis0 on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 07:11:05 PM PDT

  •  GOP plays dirty--it works for them (10+ / 0-)

    They're the party of the Canuck Letter, the Plumbers, Willie Horton, "a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty," Swiftboats, birthers, and deathers.   They're the party of Hunt, Liddy, Segretti, Atwater, and Rove.    They're the party of the October Surprise and the open theft of the 2000 election.

    What they're doing now is entirely consistent w/ what they've been doing for decades.  They're just a little more blatant about it now.

    Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

    by RFK Lives on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 07:20:03 PM PDT

  •  If you can stomach the conservative rebuttal (5+ / 0-)

    A ‘lie’: A truth that Democrats don’t like

    The following assertions, for instance, are true:

    • Obama did cut over $700 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare.
    • The stimulus was a case of political patronage, corporate welfare and cronyism.
    • The Janesville, General Motors plant was closed down under Obama (though Ryan made a more nuanced assertion that we’ll cover below)
    • Obama did blow off the bipartisan debt commission.
    • Obama’s waivers do allow for the relaxing of work requirements in welfare reform.

    •  I am with Barney Frank (9+ / 0-)

      who once said regarding Republicans, "It's like arguing with my dining room table!"  

      There's something really malevolent about people who are so without conscience and who value lying as a supreme "good" over truth-telling.  As Blow wrote, if our leaders lie incessantly, what have we got?!  

      I do know one thing:  we have got to keep these people away from the levers of power and we've got to be implacable in demanding the truth from them while publicizing and destroying every lie they float until they're forced to change that tactic because it no longer works for them.  

      We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. Louis D. Brandeis

      by 3goldens on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 08:25:02 PM PDT

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    •  are you fucking kidding me? (2+ / 0-)
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      palantir, kurt

      why are you repeating this bullshit?

      I just genetically engineer them, I don't nominate them for President.

      by happymisanthropy on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 08:48:20 PM PDT

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      •  not kidding you, and why would you think (1+ / 0-)
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        that I endorse it by posting it. Of course, maybe you prefer to only see one side of the story. Your choice, of course. Don't click the link.

        My only thought was that it would, perhaps, be instructive to see how exactly they counter the truth. That is, they will nit pick the facts and disregard the implications of their rhetoric.

        •  Sun rises in east. (0+ / 0-)

          Of course they're lying about it.  What part of that is newsworthy?

          I just genetically engineer them, I don't nominate them for President.

          by happymisanthropy on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 09:48:19 PM PDT

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        •  It is useful to be familiar with the mental (0+ / 0-)

          tricks being employed to deceive.

          Of course, I'd argue that focusing on the truth is itself deceptive because the true cannot be proved -- only the false can be definitely exposed as a lie.

          So, by talking about truth the deceivers distract from the lies that are being perpetrated.

          Ryan's focus on the Janesville plant is an interesting case in point. The false accusation levied against Obama is intended to distract from the fact that Ryan deprived the laid off workers of adequate unemployment compensation and retraining opportunities.  He voted against appropriating money (a prime Congressional obligation) when it was needed, after having supported the program in 2002, when it wasn't needed. So, Ryan promises benefits when they aren't needed and withholds them when they are.  Shifting the focus of attention to Obama is a variant of the swiftboaters' strategy.

          Lyin' Ryan is a deprivator.  He delights in depriving people of their rights.  Of course, we already know that from his stand on medical care for women.

          Where the antagonism towards women comes from is a puzzlement.  Perhaps he resents that his mother married again?

          We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

          by hannah on Sat Sep 01, 2012 at 04:46:19 AM PDT

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    •  Well, that commentator is a liar. (1+ / 0-)
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      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Fri Aug 31, 2012 at 08:56:53 PM PDT

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    •  At most they are half truths and half (0+ / 0-)

      truths are worse that falsehoods, because they are intended to deceive, while a lie may merely be self-protective.

      I'll show you with the first point.
      1) there is no such thing as Obamacare
      2) the $716 billion was moved from insurance companies to paying care providers
      3) some of the $716 billion is an avoidance of the waste we commonly refer to as fraud -- theft of services that are never delivered.
      4) all of the dollars stayed in Medicare to provide care

      So, that point wasn't even a half truth.

      We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Sat Sep 01, 2012 at 04:34:22 AM PDT

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  •  I Was Closely Related To A GOP Lobbyist And (2+ / 0-)
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    political consultant. The rule that they told me in presenting information is that one must always be honest, one need never be fair. So your child tells you "hey my first period class starts at 7:15. Jimmy is going to give me a ride today." If the child skips first period and Jimmy gives him a ride to Susan's house where they smoke pot all day, your child was honest but not fair in presenting the information. His first period class did start at 7:15 and Jimmy did give him a ride.  It will be maddening to listen to your child say that he was telling you the truth. Be comforted to know that they will have a great future in GOP politics.

  •  My comment to the Times. It may well not get (0+ / 0-)

    approved.  Less than half do.

    The object of the quest for the presidency is to distract the electorate from the real agenda -- to bring both House and Senate into the conservative fold. The object is to control the American using their two symbolic tools -- the law and money. The law deprives people of their rights and money restricts their access to the necessities of life to insure they obey.
    The last thing conservatives want, and what they fear most, is the triumph of government by the people. Now retired Judd Gregg honestly called it populism.
    The participation of the electorate in 2006 and 2008 provided evidence that we are on the cusp of a new era. This requires desperate measure if the horde of citizens is to be contained. Distraction worked fairly well in 2010. The most far out personalities weren't elected, but conservatives took back the House, The agenda for 2012 is to re-take the Senate, keep the House and use the presidential campaign as the distraction.
    It won't matter who's in the White House if the ruling elite control the law and the money.

    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Sat Sep 01, 2012 at 04:26:57 AM PDT

  •  What Ron Suskind said in the NYT 10/17/04: (0+ / 0-)
    The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

    "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Matthew 5:11

    by parsonsbeach on Sat Sep 01, 2012 at 08:09:40 AM PDT

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