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Are we better-off than we were four years ago?


Child please you done lost your last freakin’ mind even asking that question!!!

In the Fall of 2008, Bush was running around—“ahhh, ahhhh, America’s going bankrupt.“ Ben Bernake was sweating like he just ran a marathon, McCain yelling “incoming, incoming, git off my lawn” – OBL making videos  while Americans were dodging bullets in Iraq.

America was the laughing stock of the world with shoes being thrown at the president.  Stock market crashing, banks failing while Paul Ryan was borrowing the money from China that he’s railing about now.

And then, in steps the hated Kenya, Communist, Socialist, Muslim and look at what he’s done in four years…people:

1.    Saved the banks
2.    Brought the stock market from 6,500K to 13,000K
3.    Saved GM
4.    Repealed DADT
5.    Ordered a Mini Dream Act
6.    Created 4.3 million jobs
7.    27- straight months of private-sector job growth
8.    Passed Healthcare
9.    Ended the war in Iraq
10.    Drawing down from Afghanistan
11.    Doubled the Number of  Border Security Agents
12.    Appointed First Hispanic Justice
13.    Restored America’s Standing in the world
14.    Dealt effectively with the BP Oil Spill
15.    Dealt effectively with the Pirate Crisis
16.    Dealt effectively with H1N1
17.    Kept America Safe
18.    Passed Financial Reform
19.    Passed a Credit-Card Bill of Rights
20.    Passed Equal Pay for Women
21.    Nearly Wiped out Al Qaeda
22.    Killed OBL
23.    Added Eight-yeas of solvency to Medicare
24.    Quit smoking
25.    And got a dog

All of this was done with a republican opposition to every single thing he tried to do.
So yes, not only are we better off now, we’ll be even better four years from now with Obama’s leadership!!!

They don't think we're better off than four years ago?

Child please...

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  •  Tip Jar (190+ / 0-)
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  •  Well you did a much better job that David Plouffe (42+ / 0-)

    did with George Stephanopolis on This Week.

    He couldn't answer the question! I thought, how does a surrogate, administration spokesperson be so unprepared?

    I think that is why we have this current emphasis on this from the Romney types - Plouffe gave them the impression of an Achilles heel.

    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 06:05:04 AM PDT

  •  Don't forget the dow (2+ / 0-)
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    nearly doubling since he has been in office.

    After the Republicans burn down the world, they will prove the Democrats did it.

    by jimraff on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 06:12:27 AM PDT

  •  Nice. Focus on the "we." There are still (19+ / 0-)

    some individual Americans who are not better off economically, and some areas of the country are hurting more than others.  Our work is not finished.  But as a nation we are far better than four years ago.  Refuse the frame that asks this question in an individualistic manner.  We are Democrats.  We work for the common good.

    So I see only tatters of clearness through a pervading obscurity - Annie Dillard -6.88, -5.33

    by illinifan17 on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 06:15:02 AM PDT

  •  weren't the banks saved (1+ / 0-)
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    in late 2008 when the crisis peaked? When they passed TARP in October 2008?

  •  Jobless rate of veterans down. (17+ / 0-)

    What are the current numbers for employment of veterans?

    "The jobless rate for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans has fallen to 7.6%, well below the overall U.S. unemployment rate of 8.3%, and nearly five percentage points below the 12.5% rate for veterans a year ago."

  •  Adding specifics (24+ / 0-)

    My retirement portfolio is much better than it was on the day Bush left office.

    Pre-existing health conditions my family had did not cause a denial of health insurance when I switched to a new job.  

    There are full coverage health benefits that now exist that I do not need to pay any out of pocket expenses for.  That means not only do we save money, we get better preventative health care.

    Because of stimulus money, it seems like every major road in my city is under construction.  A pain, yes, but temporary and our roads are improved and that has a direct link to the economy.

    What my kids' teachers are doing in the classroom has already improved because the ridiculous NCLB burdens have been eased by waivers granted to the states.

    These are just the ones off the top of my head in less than a minute.

    •  Regarding retirement.... (5+ / 0-)

      Variable pension benefit accounts (pay an amount linked to the stock market that may be over or under the fixed monthly rate option) were severely and frighteningly under 100% in 2009 for a while and have been over, by a lot, ever since. That's a very important positive indicator that should be well known by retirees who are actively managing their finances.

      Let all Bush tax cuts expire and , bring on the Sequestration cuts to defense.

      by kck on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 07:03:56 AM PDT

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    •  This is the right way to answer the question. (3+ / 0-)
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      Because the question really is not "What good things has President Obama done in the last 4 years?"   It is "Are YOU better off?"  You have answered concrete ways in which, yes, you are significantly better off.  

      •  ...... (0+ / 0-)

        My take on it was that, bless our hearts, Dems try to be honest and we know that some are better off and some are not.  Of course, the response was spinned in a completely different way.  Rs would have jumped in with a total lie with no remorse.

        They need to find a way to express the truth that will also be clear to the less informed and more ignorant that things are better than they would have been.  

  •  I'm sick of the media driven by the GOP. nt (13+ / 0-)

    We have a huge long list of accomplishments! Some states are back to natural rates of employment. We wouldn't even have this mess if not for the engineered mess of neglecting public employment to give people like Mitt Romney absurd levels of government benefits.

  •  The GOP knows the truth, too. (20+ / 0-)

    If things actually were worse than they were four years ago, wouldn't President George W. Bush have been given a prominent speaking role at last week's convention?

    Clint Eastwood was talking to an invisible President Obama, but the takeaway from the GOP convention was that the true invisible president was GWB.

    Why on earth would we ever want to return to the failed policies of Bush and Cheney?

    How about I believe in the unlucky ones?

    by BenderRodriguez on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 06:25:36 AM PDT

  •  Try this on for size: Why Obama? (14+ / 0-)

    Unemployment is down, the Dow is up, Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive.

    Reforms come from below. No man with four aces howls for a new deal.
    Keystone XL will raise gas prices!

    by Turbonerd on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 06:27:29 AM PDT

    •  while unemployment has been (1+ / 0-)
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      trending down (from 10.0% in 10/2009 to 8.3% now) it was in the 4% to 6% range in the Bush years.

      Here's the average unemployment rate by year

      2001 4.7%
      2002 5.8%
      2003 6.0%
      2004 5.5%
      2005 5.1%
      2006 4.6%
      2007 4.6%
      2008 5.8%

      2009 9.3%
      2010 9.6%
      2011 9.0%
      2012 8.2% so far

      •  Thats such a terrible comparison (12+ / 0-)

        Bush did not have a terrible economic crisis to deal with until his last year. It's really like comparing apples and oranges. I think the fact that it went from 5.8% to 9.3% in 2009 shows you the results of the Bush years.

        •  i think that (1+ / 1-)
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          the meltdown and the 9/11 attacks/recession at the beginning of his presidency were serious economic issues.

          We lost 5,060,000 jobs in 2009 in the meltdown. After that we have added 3,926,000 jobs so we still have fewer wrokers then before it began. Compared to 12/2007 today we have 4,737,000 fewer workers...with a larger population.

          So i don't think anyone should be putting JOBS on their resume.

          •  Bush faced a normative recession and had (16+ / 0-)

            the cooperation of Democrats in Congress to combat it. Obama was handed the worst economic crisis since 1933 and a Republican opposition committed to blocking his every maneuver regardless of the consequences.

            "Balderdash!" - Mitt Romney

            by Red Bean on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 07:22:20 AM PDT

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            •  Thank you Red Bean. (0+ / 0-)

              It shows that having data at your fingertips is not enough. It also takes discernment and judgment to assess the situation correctly.

              liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

              by RockyMtnLib on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 01:03:47 PM PDT

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          •  Those economic issues (8+ / 0-)

            while serious, were a  walk in the park compared to the recession at the end of 2008. The economy was literally about to COLLAPSE in 2009. It was scary thing. You point out that exact same thing in your next sentence. We were losing 800k jobs a month before he took office. That mild recession early in Bush's term never seen job losses that much and the UE rate never really spiked that high.

            Secondly, I don't know how accurate your numbers are but even if they are, the first great depression took years for the population to get back to full employment. It took like 2-3 terms for FDR to get the UE just to go below 10%. Big recessions take time. If you don't understand that, you're either naive or a right wing troll. Judging by your other comments, I expect the latter.

          •  no mobbing please (1+ / 0-)
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            I agree that putting JOBS and GROWTH on anyone's resume right now is not exactly putting their strong foot forward.

            The fact is that this current administration has done what it can in the circumstances that it was given by the previous one, while having to deal with the historic gridlock that has taken over our government. What more could anyone expect from them?

            Sadly, it won't matter to about 50% of the country. The Facts are drowned out. Nothing much has changed this problem for too long.

            These were also unprecedented times: economic circumstances have combined along with the fall out of 9/11 and a host over other historic challenges have made our collective lives fairly miserable for more than a decade.

            We would be in a serious mess if measures had not been taken to stem the tide. Its hard for a shell shocked nation to understand the value of what has worked in our recovery efforts, among the finger pointing ads (we deserve a better discussion).

            The report card is not that impressive, but it could have been much worse. The other guys won't even talk about their detailed plans to turn things around.

            But, the guys that have done as good a job as anyone could have expected have a big problem to deal with and they are not talking about it:

            Mr. President there is a serious problem with the EUC08 program
            Welcome to our 21st century Watergate

            Any reasonable discussion of the facts is welcome. I agree with the diarist and many other comments here about the valid points being made. This problem I have uncovered, like it or not, is a serious test of Mr. Obama's leadership and should be thoroughly examined before the election.

            It is also a serious test to show how a civilized community deals with information they cannot refute, but would rather not hear.

          •  Clinton handed Bush a frigging 230 billion (2+ / 0-)
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            Budget surplus. After 8 years of bleeding the economy with Tax cuts, and his pet wars, Bush handed Obama a nation on the verge of economic collapse.

            I'm shocked that you don't remember the banking crisis... Its a direct product of a failure to regulate the financial industry. Responsibility does not neatly fall on only the Republicans only for failure to regulate. But it is most certainly part of their religion - That regulation restrains business.  And something they certainly push with the greatest vehemence

            the bulk of the blame {for the financial crisis} lies with the policy makers and regulators who were on duty while the housing bubble inflated and Wall Street went wild — the Bush administration and Alan Greenspan’s Federal Reserve. Their near-religious belief in the powers of the market led them to conclude that the mere fact that a company was willing to make an investment made that investment O.K.

            "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics" - F.D.R.

            by biscobosco on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 10:29:50 AM PDT

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      •  The economy contracted by 9.3% (12+ / 0-)

        in Bush's last quarter in office. Are you setting out to prove the adage about lies and statistics?

        "Balderdash!" - Mitt Romney

        by Red Bean on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 06:57:24 AM PDT

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      •  4.7 to 9.3 = Bush performance on jobs (6+ / 0-)

        SUCKED! You are a TROLL!

      •  Your candidate once recognized (2+ / 0-)
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        that what you're trying argue is fatuous:

        “The people of America recognize that the slowdown in jobs that occurred during the early years of the Bush administration were the result of a perfect storm. And an effort by one candidate to somehow say, ‘Oh, this recession and the slowdown in jobs was the result of, somehow, this president being magically elected,’ the people of America just dismiss that as being poppycock, and they recognize that,’’ Romney said in early 2004, at the opening of Bush’s Massachusetts headquarters, according to a videotape of his remarks that is part of the Romney administration’s records held at the state archives in Boston.

        "Balderdash!" - Mitt Romney

        by Red Bean on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 08:25:47 AM PDT

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      •  so you agree, unemployment is down (1+ / 0-)
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        from when Obama took office.

        Have a nice day.

        Reforms come from below. No man with four aces howls for a new deal.
        Keystone XL will raise gas prices!

        by Turbonerd on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 04:09:26 PM PDT

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  •  In respect for the ONGOING fight for equal pay... (6+ / 0-)

    ...the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009 enabled legal challenges for fair pay to be easier and did not "pass equal pay for women".

    The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009 (Pub.L. 111-2, S. 181) is a federal statute in the United States that was the first bill signed into law by President Barack Obama on January 29, 2009. The Act amends the Civil Rights Act of 1964 stating that the 180-day statute of limitations for filing an equal-pay lawsuit regarding pay discrimination resets with each new paycheck affected by that discriminatory action. The law directly addressed Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., 550 U.S. 618 (2007), a U.S. Supreme Court decision that the statute of limitations for presenting an equal-pay lawsuit begins on the date that the employer makes the initial discriminatory wage decision, not at the date of the most recent paycheck.

    A bill, also called the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, to supersede the decision, was introduced in the 110th United States Congress but was never enacted, as it was passed by the House but failed in the Senate.

    During the campaign for the 2008 elections, the Democrats criticized Republicans for defeating the 2007 version of the bill, citing Republican presidential candidate John McCain's opposition to the bill and candidate Barack Obama's support.

    Also your item #1 is at best arguable and #2 is not the President's accomplishment, albeit he can righteously claim it as a very positive indicator (and would be blamed and buried by it if the trend was negative).

    Otherwise, it's a valid list of accomplishments which must be read in the light of complete Republican obstruction.

    Let all Bush tax cuts expire and , bring on the Sequestration cuts to defense.

    by kck on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 06:32:02 AM PDT

  •  Stewart has it right (13+ / 0-)

    They've been out for Obama's head from day one, and they've put that above everything else.  Republicans didnt want to vote on anything that might help the country because they were afraid it would help Obama.  Even policies that they themselves supported and in some cases they've come up with themselves (individual mandate).  We're better off than we were four years ago, but we could've been much better.

  •  Looking at the U3 numbers, from September 2008 to (1+ / 0-)
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    September 2012, 2.6 million were added to the ranks of the official unemployed and 9.54 million were added to the rank of the U6 (Actual) unemployed.

  •  Of course, this is a trick question (13+ / 0-)

    That is why David Plouffe didn't give a straightforward answer on "This Week" yesterday. If you say yes, I am better off, then the brain-dead GOP response is "Den how cum da unemployment rate iz higher now den it wuz den?"

    Commenters here have given the right response, and I hope we hear it loud and clear in Charlotte. Yes we are better off. Four years ago, the economy was in a state of collapse. We didn't know whether we might be looking at another Great Depression. We were hemorrhaging jobs at the rate of more than 700,00/month, which is why the unemployment rate is higher now than it was then, but this was quickly and sharply turned around. We were about to lose the entire auto industry and see it shipped off to China. The stock market was half of what it is today. Gas prices were lower, but that is because of the economic destruction. Shortly before that, they were higher under Bush than they are now. Bin Laden was still alive, and doing his best to plot another attack, and Al Qaeda was still strong. We were still in Iraq. We had no way to get a handle on rising health care costs, and no chance politically ever to get one.

    Four years later, we certainly are better off! And we would be much better off still if the GOP wasn't doggedly resisting anything that could provide more jobs - to the tune of at least 1.5 million more people working and at least a point off the unemployment rate.

    "The only thing we have to fear - is fear itself." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    by orrg1 on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 06:51:25 AM PDT

    •  Well said except I'm paying >$4/gallon... (0+ / 0-)

      The 5% undecided notice that kind of stuff.

    •  It's also the WRONG question (1+ / 0-)
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      We're not voting to go back and re-do the past four years - we're voting on who's going to lead us for the next four years. By re-framing the question this way, it sets you up to contrast the President's plans and where that would lead us against where Romney/Ryan would take the country. The repeal of Obamacare would have very real consequences, as would giving more tax cuts to the top 1%. Many of the Obama campaign ads have talked about what Romney's policies would do, so just keep hammering home those points, because that's what it really is at stake.

      Progressives are defined by who they want to help; Conservatives are defined by who they hate.

      by frsbdg on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 10:37:20 AM PDT

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  •  13. Restored America’s Standing in the world? (2+ / 0-)
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    Not quite there yet.

  •  26. (7+ / 0-)

    26.  Prevented the Bush economic meltdown from turning into an all out depression

    27.  Identified waterboarding as the torture it is.

    28.  Understands, unlike his predecessor, that sentences contain both a subject AND a predicate.

    “I believe all Southern liberals come from the same starting point--race. Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything.” ― Molly Ivins

    by RoIn on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 06:54:32 AM PDT

  •  My 401K is (7+ / 0-)

    back up to and has surpassed where it was  when Bush/Cheney tanked the economy.  So, yes.  Yes I am better off.  Thanks for asking!!  :)

    When people show you who they are, believe them: Maya Angelou

    by bakenjuddy on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 07:08:22 AM PDT

  •  Your title sums up the difference between the (5+ / 0-)

    progressive mindset and the conservative mindset.

    As the title suggests, are WE (America as a whole)  better off than 5 years ago.  The answer is resounding YES !!

    The conservatives, on the other hand, will ask are YOU (the individual) better off? That totally depends on one's individual situation, but generally the aim of the question really means "are you better off financially"?  

    As the President has clearly stated, "The private sector (aka the 1%) is doing quite well" and the country collectively is doing much better, but its a work in progress and changing management at this time would surely kill what ever progress needs to be made.  Hopefully, the American electorate can see through the GOP crap and keep moving forward.

    Obama/Biden 20012
    Clinton/TBD 2016

    "Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal" -- Logical Song -- Rick Davies & Roger Hodgson

    by Over50Lib on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 07:11:48 AM PDT

  •  I didn't realize he quite smoking. I just never (1+ / 0-)
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    thought about it. Thats got to be soooo hard given everything else he's dealing with at the same time. Maybe getting a dog made it easier.

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

    by CTMET on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 07:21:25 AM PDT

  •  And don't forget (4+ / 0-)

    no body flew any planes into any of our buildings during the first 235 days of the Obama' Administration.  Can't really say that about Bush/Cheney.

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 07:27:13 AM PDT

    •  Yes there was a terrorist plane attack (3+ / 0-)
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      AUSTIN, Tex. — Leaving behind a rant against the government, big business and particularly the tax system, a computer engineer smashed a small aircraft into an office building where nearly 200 employees of the Internal Revenue Service were starting their workday Thursday morning, the authorities said.

      Of course it was a right winger, so it was largely ignored and downplayed.

      Progressive Candidate Obama (now - Nov 6, 2012)
      Bipartisan Obama returns (Nov 7, 2012)

      by The Dead Man on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 07:59:07 AM PDT

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      •  oops (0+ / 0-)

        forgot about that one.  

        but, what it within the first 235 days of his administration?

        (I could still pull a fox news truth out of this one)


        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 11:27:46 AM PDT

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  •  Damn you! (6+ / 0-)

    How can I support the Ralph Paul/Lyndon Nader/Ron LaRouche ticket if you tell me Obama did good! Are you saying we should vote with our brains???? Damn DINO Commie Pig!

    By the forgot:

    1. saved hundreds of research jobs (by funneling stimulus money into science)
    2. Put more into green energy than any other President before.

    I still think he didn't do enough, but he has done a LOT and is one of the best Presidents I have lived through.

    FREEDOM ISN'T FREE: That's why we pay taxes. I Had A Thought

    by mole333 on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 07:39:06 AM PDT

  •  I THINK THIS (9+ / 0-)

    Could backfire if we play it well. When they ask are you better off , that question should be thrown back at them .
    1) do you mean we are not better off with Osama Bin Ladin dead.
    2) Generaral motors alive.
    3) more people with access to healthcare.
    4) Do you mean to tell me we are better off loosing 750,000jobs instead of adding hundres of thoudans of jobs. I know we are not where we need to be but I would rather be adding jobs than loosing them thank you. This  needs to  be turned around against them fast. This is a trap and they just fell right into it. Someone needs get this to the right people instead of this peolple sounding like they are lost for words. Democrats should be glad to have this debate.

  •  Great accomplishments (0+ / 0-)

    I do wish he would have gotten a rescue though and called attention to the 80,000 unwanted animals being euthanized every week in the United States.

  •  if by "dealt effectively" with BP you mean (2+ / 0-)
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    let them control the Coast Guard and covered their asses while extracting a pittance, then you might have a point.

    Progressive Candidate Obama (now - Nov 6, 2012)
    Bipartisan Obama returns (Nov 7, 2012)

    by The Dead Man on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 07:56:15 AM PDT

  •  +++ (6+ / 0-)

           26 Vets Jobless rate down to 7.3 %
            27. Created the highest emissions standards in a decade
            28. Did not open up ANWAR ( Alaska Protected Area)
            29. Tried to reduce deficit sensibly with no help from Republicans (for cutting Bush Tax cuts for wealthy which would reduce deficit by half)
            30. Treats dogs humanely
            31. Has compassion for women's issues, gay issues, minority issues, and the poor.
            32. Does not lip smack (Romney lip smacked 101 times in his acceptance speech)
            33. Is our first black president and thusly is being blocked at every turn by racists who have a clear agenda to make him a failure.
            34. is far less radical than he is projected to be or I would like him to be on issues of socialized medicine for all and prioritizing environment , but is a clear choice to move FORWARD not backward on the R n R train to the 50's
    35  Finally relieved the world of NuKiler anything...

  •  Healthcare for 9/11 heroes (6+ / 0-)

    Put an end to 8 straight years of the US hemorrhaging manufacturing jobs.  Since June 2009...228,000 manufacturing jobs have been added.

    Helped Libyans liberate themselves.  Bringing down Gaddafi, after Bin Laden the worst terrorist America has ever known, without the loss of a single American servicemember.

    The NEW START treaty with Russia which will drastically reduce the number of nuclear weapons pointed at the United States and prevent nuclear material from getting into the hands of terrorists.

    Follow Me on Twitter!!/ZeddRebel

    by TarantinoDork on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 08:09:35 AM PDT

  •  + 218 Reasons from (21+ / 0-)

    Yes, that's correct... from the notorious leftie rag, Forbes Magazine...

    218 Reasons to Re-Elect President Obama

    1. Extended child tax credits and marriage-penalty fixes
    2. Created an Advanced Manufacturing Fund to invest in peer-reviewed manufacturing processes
    3. Required economic justification for tax changes
    4. Implemented “Women Owned Business” contracting program
    5. Changed standards for determining broadband access
    6. Established a credit card bill of rights
    7. Expanded loan programs for small businesses
    8. Extended the Bush tax cuts for lower incomes
    9. Extended the 2007 Alternative MinimumTax patch
    10. Closed the “doughnut hole” in Medicare prescription drug plan
    11. Expanded the Senior Corps volunteer program
    12. Required insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions
    13. Gave tax credits to those who need help to pay health premiums
    14. Required large employers to contribute to a national health plan
    15. Required children to have health insurance coverage
    16. Expanded eligibility for Medicaid
    17. Expanded eligibility for State Children’s Health Insurance Fund (SCHIP)
    18. Required health plans to disclose how much of the premium goes to patient care
    19. Established an independent health institute to provide accurate and objective information
    20. In non-competitive markets, forced insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums for patient care
    21. Eliminated the higher subsidies to Medicare Advantage plans
    22. Expanded funding to train primary care providers and public health practitioners
    23. Increased funding to expand community based prevention programs
    24. Reinstated executive order to hire an additional 100,000 federal employees with disabilities within five years.
    25. Increased the Veterans Administration budget to recruit and retain more mental health professionals
    26. Expanded the Veterans Administration’s number of “centers of excellence” in specialty care
    27. Appointed a special adviser to the president on violence against women
    28. Fully funded the Violence Against Women Act
    29. Directed military leaders to end war in Iraq
    30. Began removing combat brigades from Iraq
    31. Created a military families advisory board
    32. Ended the abuse of supplemental budgets for war
    33. Made U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional on anti-terror efforts
    34. Opened “America Houses” in Islamic cities around the globe
    35. Allocated Homeland Security funding according to risk
    36. Created a real National Infrastructure Protection Plan
    37. Increased funding for local emergency planning
    38. Extended monitoring and verification provisions of the START I Treaty
    39. Appointed a White House Coordinator for Nuclear Security
    40. Initiated a grant and training program for law enforcement to deter cyber crime
    41. Improved relations with Turkey, and its relations with Iraqi Kurds
    42. Launched an international Add Value to Agriculture Initiative (AVTA)
    43. Created a rapid response fund for emerging democracies
    44. Granted Americans unrestricted rights to visit family and send money to Cuba
    45. Restored funding for the Byrne Justice Assistance Grant (Byrne/JAG) program
    46. Established an Energy Partnership for the Americas
    47. Expanded the Nurse-Family Partnership to all low-income, first-time mothers
    48. Required new hires to sign a form affirming their hiring was not due to political affiliation or contributions.
    49. Provided affordable, high-quality child care
    50. Recruited math and science degree graduates to the teaching profession
    51. Reduced subsidies to private student lenders and protect student borrowers
    52. Encouraged water-conservation efforts in the West
    53. Increased funding for national parks and forests
    54. Increased funding for the Land and Water Conservation Fund
    55. Encouraged farmers to use more renewable energy and be more energy efficient
    56. Expanded Pell grants for low-income students
    57. Pursued a wildfire management plan
    58. Removed more brush, small trees and vegetation that fuel wildfires
    59. Expanded access to places to hunt and fish
    60. Pushed for enactment of Matthew Shepard Act, which expands hate crime law to include sexual orientation and other factors
    61. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy
    62. Restored funding to the EEOC and the U.S. Department of Labor’s Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs
    63. Reformed mandatory minimum sentences
    64. Created a White House Office on Urban Policy
    65. Fully funded the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG)
    66. Established program to convert manufacturing centers into clean technology leaders
    67. Established ‘Promise Neighborhoods’ for areas of concentrated poverty
    68. Worked toward deploying a global climate change research and monitoring system
    69. Funded a major expansion of AmeriCorps
    70. Created a Social Investment Fund Network
    71. Bolstered the military’s ability to speak differentlanguages
    72. Appointed the nation’s first Chief Technology Officer
    73. Provided grants to early-career researchers
    74. Worked to overturn Ledbetter vs. Goodyear
    75. Created a national declassification center
    76. Appointed an American Indian policy adviser
    77. Created new financial regulations
    78. Increased funding for land-grant colleges
    79. Banned lobbyist gifts to executive employees
    80. Signed a “universal” health care bill
    81. Created new criminal penalties for mortgage fraud
    82. Required 10 percent renewable energy by 2012
    83. Released oil from Strategic Petroleum Reserve
    84. Raised fuel economy standards
    85. Invested in all types of alternative energy
    86. Enacted tax credit for consumers for plug-in hybrid cars
    87. Asked people and businesses to conserve electricity
    88. Required more energy-efficient appliances
    89. Created a ‘Green Vet Initiative’ to promote environmental jobs for veterans
    90. Created job training programs for clean technologies
    91. Required states to provide incentives for utilities to reduce energy consumption
    92. Supported high-speed rail
    93. Supported airline service in small towns
    94. Invested in public transportation
    95. Equalized tax breaks for driving and public transit
    96. Considered “smart growth” in transportation funding
    97. Shared environmental technology with other countries
    98. Doubled federal spending for research on clean fuels
    99. Provided grants to encourage energy-efficient building codes
    100. Increased funding for the Environmental Protection Agency
    101. Raised the small business investment expensing limit to $250,000 through the end of 2009
    102. Extended unemployment insurance benefits and
    103. temporarily suspend taxes on these benefits
    104. Supported network neutrality on the Internet
    105. Reversed restrictions on stem cell research
    106. Killed Osama bin Laden
    107. Doubled funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership, a program that encourages manufacturing efficiency
    108. Included environmental and labor standards in trade agreements
    109. Created an international tax haven watch list
    110. Made permanent the Research & Development tax credit
    111. Required automatic enrollment in 401(k) plans
    112. Required automatic enrollment in IRA plans
    113. Created a consumer-friendly credit card rating system
    114. Created a $60 billion bank to fund roads and bridges
    115. Required full disclosure of company pension investments to employees
    116. Provided easy-to-understand comparisons of the Medicare prescription drug plans
    117. Invested in electronic health information systems
    118. Phased in requirements for health information technology
    119. Required that health plans utilize disease management programs
    120. Required providers to report measures of health care costs and quality
    121. Held hospitals and health plans accountable for disparities in care
    122. Implemented and funded proven health intervention programs
    123. Prevented drug companies from blocking generic drugs
    124. Allowed Medicare to negotiate for cheaper drug prices
    125. Worked with schools to create more healthful environments for children
    126. Improved recruitment of public health workers
    127. Mandated insurance coverage of autism treatment
    128. Fully funded the Combating Autism Act and Federal Autism Research Initiatives
    129. Doubled federal funding for cancer research
    130. Increased participation in cancer-related clinical trials
    131. Fully funded the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
    132. Set a national goal to provide re-screening for all 2-year-olds for developmental disorders
    133. Commissioned a study on students with disabilities and their transition to jobs or higher education
    134. Set goals and timetables for implementing Section 503 of the Rehabilitation Act
    135. Created a best practices list for private businesses in accommodating workers with disabilities
    136. Launched educational initiative for employers on tax benefits of hiring employees with disabilities
    137. Reduced the threshhold for the Family and Medical Leave Act from companies with 50 employees to companies with 25 employees
    138. Provided a $1.5 billion fund to help states launch programs for paid family and medical leave
    139. Required employers to provide seven paid sick days per year
    140. Streamlined the Social Security disability approval process
    141. Expanded Veterans Centers in rural areas
    142. Established standards of care for traumatic brain injury treatment
    143. Made the Veterans Administration a national leader in health reform
    144. Reduced the Veterans Benefits Administration claims backlog
    145. Instituted electronic record-keeping for the Veterans Benefits Administration
    146. Expanded housing vouchers program for homeless veterans
    147. Launched a supportive services-housing program for veterans to prevent homelessness
    148. Expanded the Family Medical Leave Act to include leave for domestic violence or sexual assault
    149. Fully funded debt cancellation for heavily indebted poor countries
    150. Created a fund for international small and medium enterprises (SME)
    151. Launched robust diplomatic effort with Iraq and its neighbors
    152. Provided $30 billion over 10 years to Israel
    153. Limited Guard and Reserve deployments to one year for every six years
    154. Ended the “Stop-Loss” program of forcing troops to stay in service beyond their expected commitments
    155. Fully and properly equipped troops
    156. Created a Civilian Assistance Corps that would organize private sector professionals to help in times of need
    157. Included humanitarian international missions in long-term budgeting
    158. Reviewed weapons programs
    159. Modernized ships and invested more in small vessels
    160. Set standards for when the government should hire defense contractors
    161. Restored the government’s ability to manage contracts by rebuilding our contract officer corps
    162. Created a system of incentives and penalties for defense contracts
    163. Establish a Global Education Fund
    164. Strengthened the Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI) aimed at stopping spread of weapons of mass destruction
    165. Organized successful Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) Review Conference in 2010
    166. Expanded federal bioforensics program for tracking biological weapons
    167. Developed a comprehensive cyber security and response strategy
    168. Mandated standards for securing personal data
    169. Required companies to disclose personal information data breaches
    170. Worked to persuade the European Union to end credit guarantees to Iran
    171. Seek to negotiate a political agreement on Cyprus
    172. Restructured and streamlined USAID
    173. Increased the size of the foreign service
    174. Urged China to stop manipulation of its currency value
    175. Pressed China to end its support for regimes in Sudan, Burma, Iran and Zimbabwe
    176. Created a public “Contracts and Influence” database
    177. Required Cabinet officials to host Internet town hall meetings
    178. Conducted regulatory agency business in public
    179. Promoted more pre-school education
    180. Expanded Early Head Start and Head Start
    181. Reformed No Child Left Behind
    182. Doubled funding for Federal Charter School Program and require more accountability
    183. Addressed the dropout crisis by giving schools incentives for more dropout prevention
    184. Created Teacher Residency Programs that will send teachers to high-need schools
    185. Expanded teacher mentoring programs and provide incentives for more planning time
    186. Promoted innovative ways to reward good teachers
    187. Simplified the application process for financial aid
    188. Increased the number of high school students taking college-level courses
    189. Created incentives for tree planting and promote carbon sequestration
    190. Improved water quality
    191. Regulated pollution from major livestock operations
    192. Strengthened federal environmental justice programs
    193. Increased funding for organic and sustainable agriculture
    194. Partnered with landowners to conserve private lands
    195. Created a community college partnership program
    196. Increased funding for progams that conserve lands and habitat for select species such as the Osceola turkey
    197. Supported wetlands protection
    198. Promoted economic development in Mexico
    199. Supported repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA)
    200. Vigorously pursued hate crimes and civil rights abuses
    201. Signed the Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act into law
    202. Supported regional innovation clusters
    203. Helped low-income areas get phone and Internet service
    204. Created a Homeowner Obligation Made Explicit (HOME) score for mortgage comparisons
    205. Increased the supply of affordable housing throughout metropolitan regions
    206. Invested in transitional jobs and career pathway programs
    207. Fully funded the COPS program
    208. Improved emergency response plans
    209. Capped interest rates on payday loans and improve disclosure
    210. Expanded public/private partnerships between schools and arts organizations
    211. Improved climate change data records
    212. Supported improved weather prediction program
    213. Offered prizes for advances in consumer technology
    214. Encouraged contests and programs to interest students in science
    215. Increased research opportunities for college students
    216. Strengthened the levees in New Orleans
    217. Directed revenues from offshore oil and gas drilling to increased coastal hurricane protection
    218. Shook loose federal money for rebuilding the Gulf Coast
  •  Agreed, why r the Dems being so defensive? (2+ / 0-)
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    eXtina, RockyMtnLib

    Just say "Yes, we are better off now!"  Plouffe and others sounded so evasive, let's cut that out.

  •  End the Afghanistan war and the war on terror. (2+ / 0-)
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    Supavash, Agathena

    The longer the war on terror continues, the worse off we and the world are.

    "The Global War on Terror is a justification for U.S. Imperialism. It must be stopped."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 08:28:40 AM PDT

  •  Rescue, recovery, reform . .. (1+ / 0-)
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    The key is that the country is far better off than 4 years ago. We may still be in the ditch but we have stopped digging and are climbing back up.

    Obama has rescued the economy, auto industry, and the country from collapsing under load of unending wars. We are recovering from the depth of the recession and adding instead of losing jobs. Housing prices are recovering in many cities (and this is the silent surprise that will catch up with us in a month or so.) And amidst all the chaos left by the previous administration Obama has managed to make some significant reforms. He has reformed the healthcare system, the student loan system, and the framework for winding down failed big banks.

    The voters are dismayed with Washington and may need more reform. We need to make the case that some reform has already happened as much as most of the focus had to be on rescue and recovery.  But the focus in the next four years should be on reform.

    I hope to see tax reform to make it more fair, election reform to make super packs more accountable, successfully implement the healthcare and wall street reforms already passed, and complete the rescue and recovery under way. But the focus should shift to reform from recovery.

    I wonder how much of the resistance to talk up their accomplishments is in response to some focus group driven fear of alienating the 5% undecided in the middle and if that's so we may be a bit disappointed by the whole convention next week.

    "amateurs look for inspiration; the rest of us just get up and go to work every day" - unkonwn

    by dadan on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 08:49:56 AM PDT

  •  Saying that the President... (0+ / 0-)

    passed equal pay for women is like saying that the fight for pay equality is over.  It isn't.

    •  It won't be over, sez me, until all women (0+ / 0-)

      get off their pews --- and boycott every house of worship which still demeans women as second class citizens who need to "submit" to the male who owns them.

      Obama did take a big ding from oppressors for demanding simple fair play of ---- "if you supply viagra then you must supply the pill."      Any employer insurance which does pay for/allow  medications can't refuse to pay for/allow birth control which women need.    Your boss's religion must not dictate your life/death decisions.  Single payer would be the BEST answer, of course.

      This granny is better off because I am no longer in fear of being drowned in the ridiculous medication donut hole -- designed to kill the poor who couldn't bridge the gap.

      De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

      by Neon Mama on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 11:03:00 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I am better off (2+ / 0-)
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    notrouble, Hushes

    My income has increased by $30 k per year, my adult son has health insurance thanks to Obamacare, and my diabetic supplies are now covered by my insurance.

    We Won't Let Republicans Replace Medicare with GOP Vouchercare!

    by CatM on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 09:18:37 AM PDT

  •  For Those of Us Like Myself (2+ / 0-)
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    cheerio2, MoDem

    whose economic well-being is tied to the stock market, which represents the fruits of a lifetime of work and savings, I say bring on more Kenyan Socialism.

    It is those at the high end of the income and net worth scale who have benefitted most from Obama, and they are the ones clamoring to get rid of him.

  •  Obama is a son-of-a-gun. (1+ / 0-)
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    Criticize him, go ahead. I often do, with my heart breaking.

    But the legislative victories on Obama's watch, jaw-droppers, just keep piling up. I can't wait for his second term.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 09:44:06 AM PDT

  •  Context matters (0+ / 0-)

    The question entering the Democratic convention and beyond was how could Democrats remind voters of the crisis that the country was in four years ago and the progress that has been made without being accused of blaming the Bush administration. With the Romney campaign and the media raising the question of whether we are better off than we were four years ago, they have now effectively opened that door.

    The Romney campaign thinks it has another We built that meme, and some in the media think that they have a gotcha moment.  But what we actually have is opportunity for context.  Context is not Romney's friend.  And now that the door is opened for context, there is also the opportunity to further tie Romney to Bush.

  •  Recced, tipped and tweeted (0+ / 0-)

    and it's getting lots of RTs too.

  •  As Hilary Rosen tweeted, "I bet if Romney released (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    notrouble, MoDem, Jujuree

    his taxes, we'd see he is better off today than 4 yrs ago. We don't need more tax cuts for wealthy."

    •  Excellent point. Romney and the rest of the 1% (0+ / 0-)

      are better off.  Multi-national corporations are better off.  Oh I am not talking about an isolated incident but over all the rich got richer ...on our backs.  So if they asked President Obama that question he should counter with "Well it depends on who you ask and if they are honest it about it."  Then I would talk about the 1% and their record profits and the trillions they are sitting on just earning interest AND the accomplishments made in the last 4 years (without the Republicans lifting a finger) in small ways like kids being insured etc. etc. etc.  It seems small but when you add it all up we're safer, more secure and a little bit richer.  Imagine what we would accomplish IF we truly did "come together after an election" and work to move the country forward.

    •  Will we hear the Dick Cheney line? (1+ / 0-)
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      I wonder if Obama will say in the the debate, if Romney asks "Are you better off than you were four years ago?"

      Well, Mr. Romney, if you had released more than two years tax returns. we would know whether you are or not?  How have the last four years been for you and your income bracket, Mr. Romney?

      Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.

      by MoDem on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 11:40:22 AM PDT

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  •  Are we better off? (1+ / 0-)
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    The Nose

    If anyone asks you if you are better off than you were before Obama's first term, ask them if they really think they're going to be better off if Romney gets to turn the company - oops, country - over to Wall Street and big oil and coal.

  •  You left out that we don't have an idiot for (0+ / 0-)

    a president.  Admittedly, perhaps not something that in and of itself is directly useful, but...really...who wants an idiot for a president?

  •  I think you left out the most important thing: (1+ / 0-)
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    Doubled the amount of electricity from renewables. ie. the U.S. is finally becoming a renewable energy powerhouse in large part thanks to the efforts of the Obama Administration.

    In the long run, that right there may just be the most important thing that he has done.

    Tipped and recced.

    "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

    by Lawrence on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 11:26:21 AM PDT

  •  It's infuriating how disorganized Democratic pols (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    are. Republicans are *ALWAYS* on message, and our idiot politicians can't even answer a SIMPLE FUCKING QUESTION.

    Here, let me give you a little idea of what the moron should have said when asked, an answer I composed off the top of my head in five seconds: "Why yes, we're better off - going from losing 750K jobs a month to gaining jobs for over two years in a row is a definite and measurable improvement. But are things as good as we would like them to be? No. Republicans have obstructed so many measures to create jobs and relieve some of the burdens facing the middle-class that the only way we can move forward and continue on the right path is to re-elect the president and retake Congress."

    How hard is that? For a guy whose FUCKING JOB IS POLITICS to flub that question is unforgivable. God help us if this is indicative of the Democrats' braintrust heading into November; if so, we are well and truly screwed.

  •  Thanks (0+ / 0-)

    The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

    by a2nite on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 11:34:54 AM PDT

  •  On Afghanistan I would add ... (0+ / 0-)

    that we are half way out.  That's a helluva of an improvement.  I look forward to us being out in 2014 and I trust the President to keep his word that we will be out.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 12:45:35 PM PDT

  •  When I saw Chuck Todd this ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... morning say that Democrat surrogates had a problem answering this question in the last 24 hours, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and watched his short out-takes of the Democrats answering that question. When I saw that they responded, basically, "Hell Yeah, we are," except for a micro-fraction of a second of waffling from the otherwise awesome Maryland Governor, I knew that Truth is now a Fox News Frame.

    We need to fight it. It's bullshit. And great job, joelgp! ; )

    I would tip you, but the man took away my tips.

    by Tortmaster on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 03:12:16 PM PDT

  •  I like Tweety's framing: They left us in Hell, (0+ / 0-)

    and now they complain that we're not yet in Heaven.

    Ultimately, the only thing that matters with respect to preserving choice is who will be nominating the next Supreme Court Justices.

    by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Mon Sep 03, 2012 at 04:43:46 PM PDT

  •  4 years ago (0+ / 0-)

    the country was in total complete financial meltdown and the republicans were too scared to offer a true solution. bush had no choice but to enact the bailout and barack had no choice but to sign the stimulus. shame it wasn't more and shame the house repubs blocked all that could have had a positive effect

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