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I just read a diary directing me me to a blog post by a Vanity Fair writer about the republicans.There are 2 quotes that stand out to me in that blog and that I think summarize the majorities thinking about how the GOP is behaving and how it relates to President Obama.

But in the last four years, the GOP has transmogrified into something ugly and vicious and, more important, something wedded to the politics of fantasy and ignorance.
Blind rage at the election of Barack Obama has wrecked a once great political party.
We all seem to think that this all started in 2008 with the election of Obama, and many believe it's because he is an African American.

I would like to disagree.

The republicans were like this well before Barack Obama was elected president. I think it goes back to the election of Bill Clinton. And I think it was not so much President Clinton or Hilary Clinton as much as it was the loss of the Presidency that caused this change in the republicans. It was the loss of the White House after the Reagan years, the loss of the cult of personality built up around Reagan, and the loss of the mythology built around "his policies" within the GOP that sent them over the edge.

These people thought they were going to form their own thousand year reich built on the shoulders of Ronald Reagan and to have that bubble burst just a mere 4 years later was more than they could stand.

We'll someone had to be at fault and they made it the Clintons. I remember the hatred for Bill and Hilary, it doesn't seem any different than hatred they have for Barack Obama now. Oh yes, he's black, and surely many of them don't like that. But many of them were ok Herman Cain and Alan Keyes before him. I really don't think it would have mattered who beat them in 2008, they'd be behaving the same way that they are behaving right now. There would be just as many lies, just as much obstruction, and just as much cheating.

The republicans have shifted from their policies of old to a new theology of greed and power wedded to Christianity. And like any other theology it doesn't have to make sense, it doesn't have to be demonstrable as effective or true. It is "the truth" and must be accepted as such without question. And woe be unto him who does follow the word.

It's all true and they are right, and because they are right and represent the truth it does not matter if they lie or cheat. Lying is ok because they represent the truth and goodness and the ends justify any means when you are the righteous. Voter Suppression? So what, they are only keeping people who aren't smart enough to see the truth from voting, nothing wrong with that.

If we allow ourselves to believe that this is all just because of Obama and because he is black we are making a big mistake. It started long before Obama and it is a clear and present danger to this republic.

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  •  I'd buy that for a dollar. (4+ / 0-)

    I think you are very astute.

  •  GOP was mean to Clinton (5+ / 0-)

    that is why I am a dem today because I thought GOP was mean and not serious about governing.

    wall Street Casino is the root of the problem. Don't call them banks.

    by timber on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 04:55:11 PM PDT

  •  I agree (7+ / 0-)

    What we see from the Republicans under Obama is just the natural extrapolation of the way they've been trending from 30 years or more.

    Yes, the racial dimensions of GOP ugliness has had a field day against the current President. But they would not have been noticeably less vitriolic even if we had elected a boring white guy in '08.

    "The smartest man in the room is not always right." -Richard Holbrooke

    by Demi Moaned on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 04:59:00 PM PDT

  •  Yeah those bugged me too (4+ / 0-)

    But I considered the source.  It seems like for these these folks watching the GOP today is like getting punched in the mouth by your friend who has been going around punching people as long as you've know them.

    There is one thing women's bodies can shut down. It's called the Republican Party. Vote this November as if your life and rights depend on it because they do.

    by LeighAnn on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 05:15:15 PM PDT

  •  Goes Back to the Defeat of Goldwater. (14+ / 0-)

    Good points, good diary.

    The rightwing realized it had no say in the party and no voice in the media. So they began organizing around intellectuals such as Buckley and some big donor types; I've seen references that the Kochs got active after Brown v Board in the 50's.

    The rightwing revolution that we know began at that time. By the late 60's or so they had recruited the then apolitical evangelicals to be rightwing and activist. They were a force driving Reagan's 2 tries and got him over the top to the nomination in 1980.

    Disrespect, personal attacks and derision of Democrats and liberals and depicting them as unworthy became the norm for them with the Reagan candidacy, which launched its general election race in the small town of Philadelphia Mississippi which is known only as the site of the killing of 3 black-voter registration workers in the 1960's.

    This all exploded under Reagan but was there to be seen being fostered in the 1970's. A lot of people have been trying to wake the Democrats up to all this who have gray hair today but began as young adults.

    You're right that the outrage over Clinton was because he interruped GHW Bush's rein. They realized Bush was vulnerable for abyssmal job record (3 combined terms of both Bushes created fewer jobs than 1 term of economic "failure" Jimmy Carter) and for his corrupt incompetent FEMA failing victims in 3 or more hurricanes.

    They also knew Clinton was good, so they set up the Akansas Project before the campaign to dig up all the dirt they could find on him. They almost knocked him out but he bounced back. And as we all saw, they attacked and investigated him his whole admin and impeached him.

    You're right that it doesn't matter which Dem beat them. They attack Obama on race but race is a tool not the purpose for them. They attacked Clinton partly on race, in that as a liberal he'd give taxpayer dollars to the wrong races. The reason they fight is that we exist. They fight us differently depending on who we are. They had a phone book sized attack book for Hillary.

    The rightwing culture war didn't begin on Mr. Obama, it didn't begin in the 21st century, it goes back almost to the middle of the 20th century. The corporate war on the people goes back to 1933.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 05:17:02 PM PDT

    •  Yep. 1933. (7+ / 0-)

      They were in Florida, IIRC. It is most important we all know this, and notice Prescott Bush was there.

      The White House Coup (BBC RADIO)

      Monday 23 July 2007

      Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by a group of right-wing American businessmen

      The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell House & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

      audio at the link

      "Let each unique song be sung and the spell of differentiation be broken" - Winter Rabbit

      by cotterperson on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 06:00:26 PM PDT

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  •  8 solid years of vindictiveness (3+ / 0-)
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    and investigations about everything from his haircut to hiring their own travel consultants.

    You'd think with all that he would have been a little more aware that he couldn't blink without them knowing.

    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 05:51:31 PM PDT

  •  My introduction to Republican nastiness (6+ / 0-)

    came during the Clinton years. I don't remember much, politically, during those early years of blessed ignorance. It seemed like the country was just humming along, and Clinton wasn't doing anything to make waves large enough to affect me. Then along came Monica Lewinsky, and the R's rode that horse until it dropped. I was a newspaper carrier at the time, and that particular newspaper decided, for whatever fucked-up reason, to publish the entirety of the Ken Starr Report. Needless to say, I was not a happy newspaper carrier that dark, dark day. That was my introduction to how the right wing will latch onto absolutely anything for political gain.

    That's why I believe the danger for Democrats is very real during this election. We have a handicap of expectations. Romney is gaffe-prone. We know this. Everyone knows this. Everyone expects him to slip up. But it's not costing him a lot. In any other election, with any other candidate, it would be unthinkable to have such a perfectly artificial nominee wedded to such untenable policies (or promises of policies) maintaining a statistical tie with a piece of petrified wood, let alone Obama. Conversely, everyone has high expecations of Obama. He dazzled everyone with his introductory speech at the '04 DNC, and in '08 inspired everyone with uplifting words and a promise of better things to come. Or so they keep telling us. And now he has to do it again. Or else. That's the difference here. Romney can gaffe all he wants, but it won't substantially hurt him. If Obama makes even one major slip-up, the R's will be eagerly waiting to sign the campaign's death certificate.

    Sarcasm was my first language. If you find my accent offensive, I am sorry. No, really.

    by ThothXXI on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 06:08:58 PM PDT

  •  I disagree (2+ / 0-)
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    The republicans were like this well before Barack Obama was elected president. I think it goes back to the election of Bill Clinton.

    Generally speaking, Republicans per se weren't like this. The hard, hard right was like this. Yes, with things like Vince Foster and the Mena airport, they went almost as crazy as today's right, but the difference between Clinton and Obama is that Clinton didn't cause the ranks of crazy right wingers to expand to a significant degree. It's a huge understatement to say that Obama has caused the ranks of crazy right wingers to expand.

    •  You seem to forget (0+ / 0-)

      that during the GWB years, the moderates and finally WF Buckley himself fled the party. All that was really left was the neocons, the evangelicals and the myriad right wing crazies.

      That wasn't Obama's doing...that was the neocons and their war-crazed agenda. Obama just inherited them as the opposition.

      The truth is we are tortured by the truth.

      by walkshills on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 12:19:25 AM PDT

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      •  The party (0+ / 0-)

        started moving further and further to the right in earnest from the time Reagan became President, but by the early Nineties, the real fringe was still a fringe. That wasn't so much the case by GWB's Presidency, but it was still generally the case.

        No, with the election of Barack Obama, many people who were conservatives were radicalized into hard, hard right reactionaries, and that happened because a black man became President.

        That's what happened. I guess I sort of understand. If I were white, I too might feel the impulse to deny the reality of what happened, in spite of my liberalism.

  •  the republican party (2+ / 0-)
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    hasn't been sane since the 20's. Beneath the veneer of respectability that people like Eisenhower gave to the GOP, was a nasty cabal of right wing crazies and corporate pirates. A serious chunk of the gop of the 50's thought Eisenhower was a at best a fellow traveler and at worst a Soviet agent. No joke.

    The great depression took the country away from the gop, and they have never really taken it back. they spent the last 40 years trying, and the utter failure of the bush administration has ruined their best chance. And they know it, and thats why the rhetoric has gotten shriller  and more and more violent, and more and more openly fascistic.

  •  Read a little history (3+ / 0-)
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    The progressives in this country have fought this stuff since the beginning. The founding fathers wrote a great constitution, and there has been an effort ever since to tear it down.   Slaves were part of the same pattern and the right almost destroyed the country to keep their evil practice.  The Rockefellers and the Vanderbilts were doing this stuff in the 19th century.  Remember reading about poorhouses and company towns? Oil barons?  So let's not think we are fighting a new battle.  The tactics change. In the early 20th century it was beating and killing unionists. In the sixties it was assassination.  In the nineties it was impeachment.  Now it is stealing elections.  This stuff doesn't go away, and the fight will go on and on.  Sometimes they go underground for a while, but it always comes back.

    Not all those who wander are lost.

    by Leftleaner on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 06:52:43 PM PDT

  •  I think you're on the right track. (2+ / 0-)
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    The "gop" is not necessarily monolithic. It has evolved.
    At one time, Jim Crow was represented by Dems. That flipped.
    In the  50's there was the John Birchers.
    There was the Southern Christian right, opposing integration.
    There was the beginning of the "televangelists" who have become enormously wealthy.
    The Christian right huckster crowd were defeated on integration, school prayer.
    They latched onto Roe v Wade.
    The 60's and 70's sparked a backlash with social values, beginning in the 80's which were actually more depraved than the 60's.
    The Islamic Revolution sparked a reaction among the Christian hucksters in this country, just as 911 did.
    The fall of Marxism left a whole industry of anti-communists with nothing to rail against.
    Etc There's this trajectory with a lot of moving parts.
    This is a disjointed, incomplete list. But you get the idea.
    Your basic premise is right, this isn't about racism that began 4 years ago. For 30 plus years, the power of the anti-abortion christian right has been growing, and the power of Wall Street.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 at 08:38:01 PM PDT

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