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Something curious about yesterday's remarks of Michelle Obama, Kathleen Sebelius, Kai Penn, Julian Castro, Deval Patrick, Martin O'Malley, Lilly Ledebetter, Craig Robinson & Maya Soetoro-ng, Rahm Emmanuel, Stacey Lihn, Jared Polis, Ted Strickland, Tammy Duckworth, Nancy Keenan, Harry Reid, Nydia Velazquez, House women (including Nancy Pelosi), Barbara Lee, Cory Booker (Cory Booker?), Tim Kaine, Bev Perdue, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz - not a one of them mentions the word "climate."

If leadership doesn't discuss it, there's less pressure from the public to deal with it.

We have a long ways to go.

(thanks to Transcripts Editors)

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  •  Politics are not reality based (2+ / 0-)
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    the fan man, mightymouse

    they're utopian based.

    If you do hear the word "climate" it will be that President Obama will be lowering the mean temperature over the next few months (fall into winter....) against strong opposition from the Republicans and that we should all be thankful that the President had the courage to do so.

    The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

    by ctexrep on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:25:41 AM PDT

    •  You made me smile, but it's true. See how (1+ / 0-)
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      mightymouse

      Romney framed climate with his "joke".

      Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree. -Martin Luther

      by the fan man on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:31:42 AM PDT

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      •  As far as I can to so far, this is on speaker (2+ / 0-)
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        mightymouse, memiller

        responding to the "climate" issue: Tom Steyer. The speech is geared towards the economic advantages to an advanced energy economy, but it's also in response to the threat of climate change.

        Steyer, a delegate to the Democratic National Conventions in 2004 and 2008, is dedicated to efforts to restore trust in government, while equipping our nation's public and private sectors to lead in what he calls the "Advanced Energy Economy." He is championing Proposition 39, a California ballot measure seeking to close a tax loophole for out-of-state corporations and create jobs in California.

        This year's convention theme focuses on the economy, and Steyer will speak about the enormous economic opportunities provided by a thriving Advanced Energy Economy. Steyer's remarks will be made available immediately after he speaks.

        Steyer is the founder and co-managing partner of Farallon Capital Management, one of the country's most successful investment firms. Steyer and his wife, Kat Taylor, joined Warren Buffett, Bill and Melinda Gates and other high-wealth Americans in the "Giving Pledge," a promise to donate the majority of their wealth to charitable and nonprofit activities during their lifetimes. Steyer has created a number of highly influential nonprofits including Advanced Energy Economy and the Center for the Next Generation.

        http://www.camajorityreport.com/...

        Vote Tea Party Taliban! Bring the Burqa to America.

        by Pescadero Bill on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:11:54 AM PDT

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  •  Not mentioning it is still better than how the (4+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse, Leftcandid, Samer, terabthia2

    Republicans mentioned the climate.

    You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

    by sewaneepat on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:30:53 AM PDT

  •  I'll be listening as if our planet depends on it (5+ / 0-)

    (because it does).

    It's time to bring planet loving out of the closet.
    In the words of Gov. Deval Patrick

    "If we want to win elections in November and keep our country moving forward, if we want to earn the privilege to lead, my message is this: It's time for Democrats to grow a backbone and stand up for what we believe!"

    If cats could blog, they wouldn't

    by crystal eyes on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:34:35 AM PDT

  •  The congressman from Colorado did. (4+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse, Leftcandid, Sylv, hooper

    Nobody, from what I saw (and I only saw 4) made it a major part of the speech.

    But, it's a political convention and doesn't poll well when the economy still isn't where it needs to be.

  •  Democrats Do Not Do Voter Education. (4+ / 0-)

    They haven't since the 60's. Don't wait for it, it's never going to happen.

    This is part of the entirely new approach we need to take to the Democratic Party beginning November 7th.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:39:28 AM PDT

  •  Until the Dems learn to talk climate in a way (3+ / 0-)
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    that preempts all the con bullshit about killing jobs, they will tend to shy away from so doing.

    The convention is a party about the present and next couple of months.  Crises that will climax in coming years/decades can't compete with economy & civil rights for speech time.

    Then again, there are two more nights to come.  Climate change, sustainability, & ecology may yet get their due.

    Before elections have their consequences, Activism has consequences for elections.

    by Leftcandid on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:45:34 AM PDT

  •  It's done, we're toasted. (1+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse

    We're past the "tipping point", and there's no will and no means to do anything about it.  It's time to get over it, and get on with trying to figure out how to live with, and in, the aftermath.  It is not the end of the world . . . it's just the end of the world as we knew it.

    One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

    Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

    by Deward Hastings on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:45:58 AM PDT

    •  living with no food and no water is hard (0+ / 0-)

      An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

      by mightymouse on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:12:47 AM PDT

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      •  There's plenty of water . . . (0+ / 0-)

        and it's just "engineering" to move it where it's needed.  Adapting food crops (or moving them) will be a bit more . . . disruptive.  But that's what we'll have to do, if we're going to live with it.  Adapt or die are pretty much the only choices . . . things are not going to go back to "normal" . . . it's too late for that.  As for "global warming" in general . . . we can't stop it, but (perhaps) we can survive it.  I wouldn't buy waterfront on the Gulf Coast, though.

        Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

        by Deward Hastings on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 08:18:16 AM PDT

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        •  the worse it is, the less survivable. (1+ / 0-)
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          the more disruptive and chaotic.

          there is only so much adaptation one can do.

          also, given that society can't get it together to deal with the problem up to now, it's hard to be optimistic about successful adaptation.

          An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

          by mightymouse on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 09:10:04 AM PDT

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    •  There is not one 'tipping point'. (0+ / 0-)

      There is a sliding scale of futures along the 'total CO2 emitted' axis, each one further to the right being marginally worse then the one before.

      Yes, we have passed the point of holding on to the climate that has nurtured human civilization for the last 10,000 years. Now, the next question -- can we hold on to a climate consistent with a reasonable standard of living for the current human population? That is still up for grabs, I think.

      Mark E. Miller // Kalamazoo Township Trustee // MI 6th District Democratic Chair

      by memiller on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 10:36:59 AM PDT

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  •  Well we shall see if any (3+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse, hooper, virginislandsguy

    of the speakers bring it up during the week. One night does not a convention make. However  a look at the platform tells a slightly different story.

    It's noteworthy because it tackles global warming head-on; after the defeat of the climate bill the party has spent the last few years generally shying away from the issue. Here's the Democrats' platform on Environment:

    President Obama has taken the most significant strides in decades to cut pollution and advance public health – protecting our children and communities from harmful pollution by restoring and advancing safeguards for clean air and water and by working to reduce carbon pollution. Pollutants like nitrogen oxides, sulfur dioxide, particulate matter, and mercury are a threat to human health, and Democrats will continue to stand up to polluters in the interest of environmental and public health.

    We know that global climate change is one of the biggest threats of this generation – an economic, environmental, and national security catastrophe in the making. We affirm the science of climate change, commit to significantly reducing the pollution that causes climate change, and know we have to meet this challenge by driving smart policies that lead to greater growth in clean energy generation and result in a range of economic and social benefits. Obama has been a leader on this issue. We have developed historic fuel efficiency standards that will limit greenhouse gas emissions from our vehicles for the first time in history, made unprecedented investments in clean energy, and proposed the first-ever carbon pollution limits for new fossil-fuel-fired power plants. As we move towards lower carbon emissions, we will continue to support smart, energy efficient manufacturing. Democrats pledge to continue showing international leadership on climate change, working toward an agreement to set emission limits in unison with other emerging powers.

    Democrats will continue pursuing efforts to combat climate change at home as well, because reducing our emissions domestically – through regulation and market solutions – is necessary to continue being an international leader on this issue. We understand that global climate change may disproportionately affect the poor, and we are committed to environmental justice.

    http://www.treehugger.com/...

    Republican Family Values: Using the daughters from your first wife to convince everybody that your second wife is lying about your third wife.

    by jsfox on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:48:52 AM PDT

    •  it's fine for the platform, but ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... so far not worth a mention.

      one can conclude from what they've said so far that it's not a big deal for them.

      An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

      by mightymouse on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:14:10 AM PDT

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      •  Again I think you will (2+ / 0-)
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        have a valid complaint if at the end of the convention it has never been spoken about. But after only the first night I think the complaint is a bit premature.

        Republican Family Values: Using the daughters from your first wife to convince everybody that your second wife is lying about your third wife.

        by jsfox on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:27:33 AM PDT

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      •  Didn't we just do this yesterday? (1+ / 0-)
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        mightymouse

        Legislating on Climate/Energy is Obama's stated goal -- many times -- for his 2nd term, along with immigration.

        For now he's doing what can be done non-legislatively, including the 53mpg CAFE standard, which you yesterday labeled "small potatoes."

        Actually the biggest deal possible this side of a carbon tax.

        But the breakthroug last night was obviously that the Dems are proudly campaigning on Obamacare.  Congratulations to them for this!!

        •  Not mentioned at the convention so far (0+ / 0-)

          that's the point here.

          and the larger point is, the less it's publicly discussed by leadership, the less support there will be for doing something.

          The CAFE standard is for 2025 .... that's a ways down the road ... a lot can happen in the interim ... and a far cry from a price on carbon here and now.

          Combine that with the admin's record of selling coal, opening coastal areas for drilling, advocating fracking and "all-of-the-above" energy, silence on the need for climate action ... and yeah, it's not a great record.

          An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

          by mightymouse on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:36:36 AM PDT

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  •  Seems to me "climate" is speaking for itself these (3+ / 0-)

    days.

    Because stupid people are so sure they're smart, they often act smart, and sometimes even smart people are too stupid to recognize that the stupid people acting smart really ARE stupid.

    by ZedMont on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:22:44 AM PDT

  •  It was only the first night for crying out loud! (1+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse

    Isn’t it ironic to think that man might determine his own future by something so seemingly trivial as the choice of an insect spray. ~ Rachel Carson, Silent Spring ~

    by MA Liberal on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:49:38 AM PDT

  •  The Dems' passivity on climate (0+ / 0-)

    is their most surprising--and most inexcusable--shortcoming.

    One might look the other way at all their other profound shortcomings, on war, civil liberties, the safety net, if they were at least buying us time by doing everything humanly possible to delay the seemingly inevitable climate tipping point.

    Their approach is worse than doing nothing at all, because they've created an illusion that they are acting, the "Party of Science" and all that... thus vitiating any slight chance of pressure from below to force action on anthropogenic global warming.

    We're toast. Soggy toast.

    When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill...

    by PhilJD on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 10:27:48 AM PDT

  •  Tom Vilsack is speaking tonight. (0+ / 0-)

    As Ag Sec, he would be one of the best to highlight the issue of climate change as it relates to farmers.  We could hear it from him.

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