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U.S. Republican presidential candidate and former Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney addresses supporters during his Wisconsin and Maryland primary night rally in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, April 3, 2012. REUTERS/Darren Hauck
Careful, Romney. Your racism is showing.
Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are both back with the big welfare lie, after leaving it alone at their convention. Both of them were interviewed before President Clinton's speech last night, and because they were somehow still harboring the hope that Clinton was going to undermine President Obama in his speech, they both brought up the lie, Ryan first, then Romney.
"Well, I'm not sure exactly what President Clinton will say, but there's no question that President Obama's decision to say that we're going to allow waivers or excuses from work requirements in welfare was designed to shore up part of his base that may not be inclined to go out and vote in the same kind of energy and passion as they did four years ago. [...]"
Back with the lie, dog-whistle blaring. Let's just let the master deal with that. President Clinton, the floor is yours:
CLINTON: Let's look at the other big charge the Republicans made. It's a real doozy.

They actually have charged and run ads saying that President Obama wants to weaken the work requirements in the welfare reform bill I signed that moved millions of people from welfare to work. Wait. You need to know, here's what happened.

Nobody ever tells you what really happened. Here's what happened. When some Republican governors asked if they could have waivers to try new ways to put people on welfare back to work, the Obama administration listened, because we all know it's hard for even people with good work histories to get jobs today, so moving folks from welfare to work is a real challenge. And the administration agreed to give waivers to those governors and others only if they had a credible plan to increase employment by 20 percent and they could keep the waivers only if they did increase employment.

Now, did -- did I make myself clear? The requirement was for more work, not less. [...]

But I am telling you, the claim that President Obama weakened welfare reform's work requirement is just not true. But they keep on running ads claiming it.

You want to know why? Their campaign pollster said, "We are not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers."

Now, finally I can say: That is true. I -- I -- I couldn't have said it better myself. [...]

This one isn't going to go away, because the Romney campaign has no shame. They don't care if they're being called liars. They don't care that they're walking the knife's edge of out-and-out racism. They're losing and they're desperate and they will say anything.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 10:01 AM PDT.

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  •  You said it, Joan. (1+ / 0-)
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    They're desperate and they'll say anything.

  •  I love that he called it "a real doozy" (3+ / 0-)
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    Supavash, pistolSO, Hey338Too

    Everyone knows that means "a lie (and a hiuge fucking lie at that)" without having to call it one. Damn, the Big Dog knows how to use dogwhistles to our advantage.

    If we got Mitt to be slightly less dishonest and gave him some personality he could pass as a used car salesman.

    by ontheleftcoast on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 10:06:33 AM PDT

    •  It took me (3+ / 0-)
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      a while to write this one up, because I just had to keep replaying that clip. Gawd, he was on fire last night.

      "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

      by Joan McCarter on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 10:08:39 AM PDT

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      •  Yes he was (0+ / 0-)

        And I'm grateful the staff here noticed how well Bill verbally assassinated the Repukes. It was that old Klingon proverb, "Revenge is a dish best served cold". And that speech was a plate of cold cuts at 33°F.

        If we got Mitt to be slightly less dishonest and gave him some personality he could pass as a used car salesman.

        by ontheleftcoast on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 10:12:08 AM PDT

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  •  Bbbbbbuuutttt... (5+ / 0-)

    Clinton lied about a Blow JOB!!!!!

    “An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics.” - Plutarch

    by RichM on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 10:06:57 AM PDT

  •  Here's my guess. (1+ / 0-)
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    In about six weeks we'll all be talking about ads Romney's team is running today as being from when the Romney campaign still had its integrity. Things are going to get much, much worse, much more ugly. Probably (at least with the Super PACs) more ugly than anything we've ever seen in a presidential in modern times.

  •  These R&R guys claim to be professionals... (5+ / 0-)

    ...but despite their extensive practice, they are amateur liars. Professionals don't get caught. Or when they do, they find an excuse why what they said wasn't really a lie instead of just repeating the lie at higher decibels. Sort of the way some people try to persuade a person who doesn't speak their language by saying the same thing LOUDER.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 10:09:35 AM PDT

    •  Professional con artists with a fat whale on the (0+ / 0-)

      Line. Oh but he's not spending his own money.

      The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

      by a2nite on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 05:28:57 PM PDT

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  •  El Rushbo hasn't given them a new script. (1+ / 0-)
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  •  The only way to attack (3+ / 0-)
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    skillet, RichM, dclawyer06

    this bullshite is to pick up Clinton's clarion call.  Ad after ad should use the words, lie and liars.  30 seconds of each of Clinton's shredding of the lies should be in the can already.

    Yes -- he spoke for 48 minutes -- but it was 48 minutes of 30 second ads.

    I've really never seen anything so despicable -- even with Nixon and Rove.  Romney/Ryan are in your face bald-faced lies.  I think Rove must have his mouth open at the audacity of the whole fiasco.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 10:17:29 AM PDT

  •  I relish the opportunity to beat these. (1+ / 0-)
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    guys on election day.
    And I'm glad they went "full-Klan" for their campaign. It gives everyone a glimpse into the real Mitt Romney. History will record his deeds and those of the GOP voters who embrace hate.

    Still, I'm amazed how poorly the GOP is doing when they have so many built-in advantages(Huge right-wing media/voter suppression laws/hundreds of millions of $ in anonymous donor cash & a MSM that is determined, at all costs, to paint this election as neck & neck).

    But Mitt is such an obvious jerk, and so clearly disinterested in the lives of Americans, that he can't any traction.

  •  You always know what a Republican is guilty of (1+ / 0-)
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    when they go accusing the other side of something they are far more guilty of.  

    Here you have the Republicans accusing Obama of doing something unseemly to shore up the base when everything the Republicans have done the past four years, from inventing teabaggerism to obstructionism to the vile dog whistles they are blowing in this campaign, is nothing more than a ceaseless, never ending attempt to use the functions of government and fecklessness of the media to shore up their base.

    This 'shore up the base' line is the campaign equivalent of Glenn Beck calling President Obama a racist.

    •  Projection -- They haz it. (0+ / 0-)

      There has to be a great LOLCat of that somewhere. Oh bubbanomics! Paging bubbanomics! Humorous graphic needed on aisle 3!

      If we got Mitt to be slightly less dishonest and gave him some personality he could pass as a used car salesman.

      by ontheleftcoast on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 10:40:59 AM PDT

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  •  They're being even more deceptive than you think. (0+ / 0-)

    "Waivers" are not something that are cooked up by the executive branch on the fly; they're baked in to whatever law is being executed. For instance, every day at my job in New York State I hear about the Medicaid "1115" waiver on a regular basis. Why is it called the "1115 waiver?" Well, because per the Social Security Act,

    "Section 1115 of the Social Security Act gives the Secretary of Health and Human Services authority to approve experimental, pilot, or demonstration projects that promote the objectives of the Medicaid and CHIP programs."
    See? It's right there. The federal government isn't making exceptions. It's not tweaking a law. It's implementing it. Based on language that's already there.

    This would be funny, if they weren't getting away with it. Don't let them!

  •  Incompentent liars (3+ / 0-)
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    I'm actually very pleased that the Romney campaign is really bad at this stuff.  

    I thought everyone knew you wait for the last three weeks of the campaign to throw out the completely unsubstantiated charges, so that you get the benefit of their impact without the opposition having time to rebut them.  These guys went completely fact free way too early and are completely destroying their brand.

    They also failed to start selling Romney as soon as he had clinched the nomination.  I didn't see a positive add until two weeks into the Olympics, and I'm in Virginia.  They let the opposition define their candidate, and because they were going completely negative all the time, it didn't even seem like the Democrats were being particularly hard on them.

    You'd think a guy like Romney would understand the importance of brand identify, but I guess he's never held onto a company with a product long enough to actually try to sell anything....

    •  who shelves the BIG LIE for the convention, then (1+ / 0-)
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      brings it back 2 weeks later? lmfao wat?


      my god, we spent all those years launching "Bush is dumb!" jokes but that guy was at least smart enough to know how to lie effectively.....

      "See? I'm not a racist! I have a black friend!"

      by TheHalfrican on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 08:50:56 PM PDT

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  •  Why is this story from Thursday.... (2+ / 0-)
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    drmah, JoCoDem

    ...on the front page now?  Am I missing something?  Maybe I'm in a 'Cold War time warp' like Romney on foreign policy?

  •  Amazing that CSPAN filmed that woman's (0+ / 0-)

    social securty number and name on national TV.

    I watched the speach on CBS and it was the same shot.

    Probalby not a good idea to wave around your SS#.

    Notice: This Comment © 2012 ROGNM

    by ROGNM on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 04:20:19 PM PDT

  •  This particular lie has power, in their eyes. (4+ / 0-)

    Besides the fact that it is a no-brainer to lie to the American people -- they'll believe anything that yanks their hate chain -- the Republicans project that hatred of the poor and the desire to hurt them is a total crowd pleaser across the Christian nation.

    So bashing Obama for "easing up" on them looks like a winner to them -- even if it is a lie.

    A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. -- Groucho Marx

    by Pluto on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 04:20:45 PM PDT

  •  I believe -- I hope -- this will come up (8+ / 0-)

    In a debate.  And because we have absolute truth on our side, I so dearly hope Obama -- 'more in sorrow than anger' -- says to Romney something along the lines of, 'Governor, you know that's not true.  You know it.  And you persist in making the charge.  It's sad, it's wrong, and it's beneath someone running for the Presidency of the United States.'

    It's completely valid to say and more than that: it's necessary to say.

    We have the power of truth!

  •  Romney Wheels Coming Off (5+ / 0-)

    Willard's campaign is already a dead one running.  His desperation is tantamount to his concession speech.  America does not want a sociopathic liar, a lame ass Mormon moron, a weirdo dork who can't even emulate a human.  Willard Milton Romney and Co. (aka Lord and Lady Douchebag) are NOT what America wants in a leader.  

    Romney's wheels are coming off both Cadillacs.  Soon he will not need his elevator because we are going to give him the righteous shaft.

  •  I know this is off topic BUT.... (0+ / 0-)

    is that really Romney's chin?  the pic used at the top of this diary makes it seem like he might have had chin enhancement did he?

    and, being a bit on topic...  the LIE hasn't worked all that well for Romney or Ryan or any of their surrogates...  it will work even less well going forward.

    "You've got to be an optimist to be a Democrat, and a humorist to stay one" - Will Rogers

    by KnotIookin on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 04:22:15 PM PDT

  •  Believe in America (0+ / 0-)

    Mitt Romney treats people like things. And he treats things - corporations - like people.

    by richardak on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 04:27:25 PM PDT

  •  Here's why: they're hoping people will scream (3+ / 0-)
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    So far, most of the noise has been "That's a lie!!" which doesn't do what they need it to do: gin up white anger to deafening levels.

    So, let's just keep calling it a lie. That's enough.

    For the record, I am not a member of Courtesy Kos. Just so you know. Don't be stupid. It's election season. My patience is short.

    by mdmslle on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 04:27:30 PM PDT

  •  Surely Gregory will call Mitt (1+ / 0-)
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    Out on this?

  •  Look, these pathetic bastards have nothing to run (2+ / 0-)
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    ddearborn, captainlaser

    on but lies.  I pity them both when they get on the stage with our candidates.  It'll be like Walter Mitty going into the ring with Mohammed Ali.  Just a total k.o.  Cannot wait!

    Keep lyin Rethugs!  You've got plenty of rope to hang yourselves high!

    Best. President. Ever.

    by Little Lulu on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 04:30:25 PM PDT

  •  They're campaign is built on willfull ignorance (3+ / 0-)
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    Gator Keyfitz, drmah, captainlaser

    The easily provable welfare lie. The easily provable "you didn't build this" lie. The easily provable Medicare cut lie. This is basically the entire agenda of their campaign.

    I'm no philosopher, I am no poet, I'm just trying to help you out - Gomez (from the song Hamoa Beach)

    by jhecht on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 04:31:34 PM PDT

  •  Willard Will Wear Out Ten Sets of Knee Pads to (1+ / 0-)
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    solidify his base.  How base is that?  Panderer?  No.  Political slut.  Case in point: his slathering over King yesterday in Iowa.  Give Limbaugh a call.  He has a new target.

  •  Sounds like that needs to be an ad (0+ / 0-)

    just sayin'...

  •  "Now, let's take a minute and unpack this." (3+ / 0-)
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    pythonS, drmah, MaikeH what I would like to see President Obama say, over and over to Mitt's face in debate.
       Obama has the facts on his side.  Mitt just has saddlebags full of horse sh!t.

  •  We need an ad with Clinton telling people: (1+ / 0-)
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    "The requirement was for more work, not less.
    "every time they see one of those ads [of Romney lying about welfare] turns into an ad to reelect Barack Obama"

    Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

    by tekno2600 on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 04:39:38 PM PDT

  •  In a debate (3+ / 0-)
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    drmah, ddearborn, sfcouple

    Romney will have his good moments, I think.  He's hard to pin down, good at using the rules to his advantage, capable of insisting that day is night with a straight face, smart, and presidential looking in a cookie cutter way.   In the blue corner, though, Obama is smarter, much more eloquent and has better positions to defend, plus he's far more likable and, well, human.  But the main reason I believe he'll win is that Obama has worked like a dog for years on these issues, trying to come up with good answers, and has had every dirty trick in the book thrown at him already.  If it's survival of the fittest, it won't even be close.  

  •  It's not even a dogwhistle anymore (0+ / 0-)

    Is it me or are their latest statements an escalation of the previous attacks. Of course the original claims are blatant lies, but the idea that Obama removed the work requirements to hopefully get some votes is ridiculously offensive.

    I can't believe they are getting away with it.

  •  In the words of two former Presidents (0+ / 0-)

    "There they go again!"

  •  they are racists who got no bump,obama is a decent (1+ / 0-)
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    man and he got a nice bump. maybe there is a god after all.

  •  "They lied about welfare." Yes. But we have have (1+ / 0-)
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    to give you 3 pants on fire Pinocchios, because you like blow jobs.

    Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

    by tekno2600 on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 04:46:03 PM PDT

  •  Lying = Disqualification (4+ / 0-)
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    drmah, JoCoDem, a2nite, sfcouple

    Nail them in the debates.

    You lie on an application form it get hired for a part time job at Menards? You are disqualificated.

    .Any job in America, lie about anything and get caught?

    Lie to get to run our country? I want to puke.

    The Ghost of Tom Joad

    by Illinois IRV on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 04:49:39 PM PDT

  •  SW MO (3+ / 0-)
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    Posting this on another diary, but posting it again here for emphasis.

    Our local cable network (Mediacom) had a 'mysterious' sound issue during precisely this part of clinton's speech:

    ...the Obama Administration said they would only do it if they had a credible plan to increase employment by 20%. You hear that? More work.

    You will notice that the owner of the cable company (Rocco Commisso) was a campaign contributor to Roy Blunt.  

    Reported it to the FCC.  Whatever good that will do.

  •  The lies aren't for us... (4+ / 0-)
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    The lies are for the R&R base... the racists who believe that the only people on welfare are blacks... oh, maybe a white person or two... but it is the blacks that are killing America!

    It IS the racism! No two ways about it. The things we know:

    1) No racist will vote for Obama

    2) Racists who vote will vote for Romney Ryan

    3) Romney cannot win the election without his base of racists.

    4) If the Romney Ryan Republican racists all set out this election, it would be an Obama landslide.

    5) Romney must turn out his racist base and thus...

    The lies!

    When Obama won the election last time the progressives ran around pronouncing the "Post-Racial Era" as if the fight was over.

    I countered, the Race War has just been reignited. Hence the Tea Baggers in 2010.

    We must fight the naked racism if we are to win this election for Obama...

    In the ascendancy of liberalism of the 1970s we shut up the racist by calling them out for their Black Sambo jokes, welfare lies and spitting hatred.

    We can do it again if we only attack the racism. No other strategy is needed. We don't have to play the Mormon card (Mitt Romney is to Mormonism as Tiny Tom Cruise is to Scientology, etc.)

    Do you think that Baptists (as I was raised and my family still is) and other evangelicals would vote for Romney if it wasn't for their racists antagonism ? Remember, the mark of Cain (the murderer of his brother Abel), they assert, is on the blacks. Evangelicals will argue all day that Judas was not a Jew but a Negro. That is what I was taught as a child.

    Would these people vote for an African American? Not a chance! Not a vote!

    The evangelicals imagine the entire hierarchy of the Mormon "cult" being simply moved to take over all the high offices of the government to legitimize their "quasi" religion and it scares the hell out of them. The evangelicals tremble at the idea of a Mormon Supreme Court Justice, heads of the FBI, CIA and NSA... Dept of State, etc.

    But the evangelicals hate African Americans more! 30 pieces of silver and all.

    Call out the naked unvarnished and unchallenged racism for what it is... force them to shut the racists down and Romney has no base! There are not enough evangelicals to do it without their racists allies.

    It's The Racism, Stupid!

    by ddearborn on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 05:01:50 PM PDT

    •  I don't know about this. (2+ / 0-)
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      Racism at the surface is only a part of the problem. Many white Americans don't think of themselves as racist, but they harbor prejudices deep within, where they themselves don't recognize their irrationalities.  

      For example, a college basketball team starts four black guys and a white guy - who do the fans cheer loudest for? Or when a non-scholarship white guy comes off the bench in the last two minutes of a blowout, the crowd goes wild. A non-scholarship black guy gets scattered applause.

      It does little good to call racism on the racists, and you would not reach the people who favor Romney because the white guy gets the benefit of the doubt in a close call.

      We have to amplify the doubts on the issues until voting for Romney is no longer viable.

      Obama 2012/Romney 1040/Ryan 4:01

      by ebrann on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 05:45:45 PM PDT

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      •  Good comment... let me expand (0+ / 0-)

        No racist I know acknowledges their racism. They do laugh at racist jokes and tell them by the dozens. They say they don't hate blacks but they don't "trust" Obama/Sharpton/John Lewis, etc., either.

        But we need the news people to recognize that the welfare lie is a racist lie... not a dog whistle... and call it for what it is. What does that "dog whistle" even mean nowadays to the young?

        I harbor no hope of ever reaching any racists... but we do need to get those who are not racist or borderline who think that Romney is all about the economy to recognize that this weasel will stoop to bating the racists to get them out to vote. We have to stop the Republican racist lies and Romney will have no case.

        Racism was so easy to see in the 1960s because of the police dogs and fire hoses... but it is still alive and raging today. I see it in Trayvon Martin (who beat up George Zimmerman after he killed Trayvon?)... The NRA's "Stand Your Ground" makes me think that they should change their name to Negro Reduction Association. Has any white person been murdered under Stand Your Ground???

        I see racism in voter suppression... it is not meant to keep Democrats from voting... it is meant to keep African Americans from voting.

        In the civil rights struggle of the 1960s I realized I, too, was a racist because I held the "soft racism of low expectations." My mother taught us that heaven was segregated because whites treated Negroes so bad when they were alive.

        The people I think that we might reach are those who, like me, will see the racial injustice, call it for what it is and reject it... and reject Romney and his despicable campaign.

        And there is no more injustice than what Romney will do to all other races but mine... white me... and we can't let this overt racism pass on one more election. The Tea Braggers in 2010 was only the first salvo in the new race war.

        Obama has to win this election or we are sunk as a nation! I ain't got much on social security, not even my health, but I donate all I can and we must keep reminding others that they must do the same...

        We will only win on the margins.

        It's The Racism, Stupid!

        by ddearborn on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 06:20:41 PM PDT

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  •  I imagine this will only get worse as they fail (0+ / 0-)

    more and more. GOPers continue to show no sign of seing their electoral suicide path. How can this but turn off latino voters?
    By 2020 Texas and Arizona will probably be in play.

    "A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. There are traps everywhere ". C. S. Lewis

    by TofG on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 05:01:57 PM PDT

  •  If there were some way (0+ / 0-)

    to reduce Clinton's 50-minute speech into a 20-second sound bite, the Romney campaign would fold its tent and go home.

    Obama 2012/Romney 1040/Ryan 4:01

    by ebrann on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 05:20:00 PM PDT

  •  A failure of logic (1+ / 0-)
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    1. The program is called TANF - Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. The waiver provision is baked into the statute. 42 USC § 1315(a) - Demonstration projects, Waiver of State plan requirements

    2. TheJuly 12, 2012 Information Memorandum from Earl S. Johnson, Director, Office of Family Assistance, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services was addressed to State Administrators of the program. There was no publicity connected to the issuance of this memo, apart from what Romney has given it. President Obama's "base" doesn't know about it.

    3. The total number of adults participating in TANF as of December 2011 (last month info is available) is about one million, which is not much of a "base."

    Romney: Stubborn, dumb, dishonest, predictable, responds poorly to pressure, and for sale. What''s not to like?

    by tomwfox on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 05:22:26 PM PDT

  •  You would think the Obama campaign would make an (0+ / 0-)

    ad out of this:

    Let's look at the other big charge the Republicans made. It's a real doozy.

    They actually have charged and run ads saying that President Obama wants to weaken the work requirements in the welfare reform bill I signed that moved millions of people from welfare to work.

    Here's what happened. When some Republican governors asked if they could have waivers to try new ways to put people on welfare back to work, the Obama administration listened ...  And the administration agreed to give waivers to those governors and others only if they had a credible plan to increase employment by 20 percent and they could keep the waivers only if they did increase employment.

    The requirement was for more work, not less.

    It's close to 30 sec even with the "I'm Barack Obama ..."  bit.  And it could probably be cut some more.

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 05:34:28 PM PDT

  •  I know! Insult voters you want to vote for you, R! (1+ / 0-)
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    Does Romney/Ryan not see that there are lots of us out here who have no problem with Obama's proposed waivers, but we are not some ultra-liberals just wishing all Americans would just stop working and all go on welfare? Does he not understand how much he is insulting his potential voters?

    Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits. Satchel Paige 1906-82

    by threesmommy on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 05:39:07 PM PDT

  •  Romney just sinks to even lower depths in (0+ / 0-)

    character with his disgusting and repulsive behavior.  

    Don't get me wrong.  I am not surprised that he would dredge the depth of the sewers for his latest attacks.  But to get on the "Re-Nig" bandwagon with such enthusiasm reveals the empty hole where his soul should have been.

    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

    by politicalceci on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 06:08:11 PM PDT

  •  So the questions is then. (0+ / 0-)

    If these states that got waivers have a great plan ( 20%) why don't all the states just use that plan?

  •  at the start of this clip (0+ / 0-)

    Were people cheering for 4 more years of a Clinton Presidency?

  •  They should have to answer to the FTC (0+ / 0-)

    Federal Trade Commission for these lies.

    No Jesus, Know Peace

    by plok on Sat Sep 08, 2012 at 07:29:29 PM PDT

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