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When Nixon was in the midst of the Watergate investigation, Nixon refused to release tapes of Presidential conversations that Democrats believed would prove his guilt, and that republicans believed would prove his innocence.  

Romney  refuses to release his tax returns.  Then he continues to stonewall about why. Democrats believe it’s because he’s hiding something incriminating.  Republicans believe it’s because he’s modest and because he doesn’t have to anyway.  

But his tax returns aren't all that Romney won't talk about...

Romney doesn’t want to discuss Bain Capital’s role in outsourcing American jobs, bankrupting companies, and destroying pensions. (emphasis mine)

“…in every race Romney had ever run -- for senator in 1994, for governor of Massachusetts in 2002, and for president in 2008 -- his time at Bain Capital had always been an issue… Therefore, it should have come as no surprise to Romney and his campaign team that Bain Capital would again be an issue in the general election in 2012. They knew the attacks would come, yet it appears they didn’t have a plan -- other than stonewalling -- to deal with them…”
Romney refuses to discuss Afghanistan (or the troops)—again Stonewalling when asked why he didn’t mention the troops and/or Afghanistan, even in his RNC acceptance speech.  

This article in American Conservative (?!) discusses why Romney is stonewalling…

...If Romney is the candidate of continuing a war that no longer seems to serve any purpose or American interest, he is at a severe disadvantage with the public, and he and his advisers have to know that. Perhaps that is why Romney avoided going to Afghanistan and opted not to mention it in his convention speech: he is prevented by hawks in his party from seizing on the unpopularity of the war, and public disapproval keeps him from rejecting withdrawal outright, so he remains silent

…Kerry accused Romney of holding “every position,” which is a fair description

Romney’s statements on the war in Afghanistan is a perfect example of what happens when a habitual panderer is caught between the demands of his own party’s hard-liners and the preferences of the voters: incoherence and confused leadership..

There are many other examples of Romney’s stonewalling on almost every important and/or controversial issue, including aiken or abortion; or which deductions he would eliminate from the tax code;   on other issues his positions are “incoherent, confused” and constantly changing.

While Romney has proven that he’s capable of “taking every position” on almost all issues, as the election gets closer, Romney has apparently decided that instead of being accused of flip-flopping, and instead of making either the extremists in his Party (at this point the majority of his Party) angry, or making the voters angry, the safest thing for him to say is: Nothing.  

It’s easy to understand why Romney is stonewalling.  

It’s not as easy to understand why the media isn’t making his stonewalling a major issue. Yes, we all have low expectations of the media and they often don’t even meet the lowest of expectations.  

But, not every single member of the media is an incompetent hack or a right wing stenographer.  You would think that at least those few that actually want to do objective reporting would be totally frustrated with the Romney campaign refusing to discuss almost anything.  You would think they would be tired of trying to come up with inane, softball questions that Romney actually would answer.  You would think that they have had just about enough of Romney’s stonewalling and start calling him on it.  

I hope that the Democrats start hammering Romney on his cowardly refusal to discuss his position on major issues, and keep hammering until he has to take a position or explain to the voters why he won't.

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  •  The Republicans I know (5+ / 0-)

    don't necessarily believe he's protecting his tithing secrets or unusually humble. They simply believe that democrats/Obama are Godless and threatening to their Christian beliefs OR they have that football team mentality and must support the team to the bitter end. Or they don't know anything.

    My family members who are conservative are against Obama but never post anything positive about Romney. In fact, on the Internet, I see plenty of yelling about Obama but seldom see anything positive about Romney.

    •  The only positive Romney post I've seen (2+ / 0-)
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      on Facebook was from an old classmate who now lives in Colorado - and it was about George.  The caption said, "Mitt Romney's father marched for civil rights, but where was Obama's father?" or something like that.

      Imagine that.  There is such a lack of anything positive to post about a man that they must go back almost 50 years and post something about his father.

      "Now go out there and make me do it!" - Franklin Roosevelt

      by brae70 on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 05:42:04 AM PDT

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      •  That's offensive, "where was his father". (4+ / 0-)
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        KHKS, brae70, ConfusedSkyes, mamamorgaine

        If he were in the US and a citizen I can tell you where he'd likely have been: being denied his right to vote by people who looked just like George Romney.

        I know what Mitt Romney is hiding: Mitt Romney.

        by commonmass on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 05:50:04 AM PDT

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        •  I was simply quoting what was in the post, (2+ / 0-)
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          as best as I could remember it.  That's not to say that I agree with it.  Also offensive is the implication that Obama Sr. was not American.

          As with all human beings, there were both good and bad things about George Romney.  His support of civil rights was one of the good things.   The point I was trying to make was that the son is running for President this year, not the father.  

          "Now go out there and make me do it!" - Franklin Roosevelt

          by brae70 on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 08:27:07 AM PDT

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    •  I actually saw my first RR bumper sticker (1+ / 0-)
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      yesterday - in Salinas, CA of all places!

      Whose bread I eat, his song I sing.

      by Hanging Up My Tusks on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 07:12:22 AM PDT

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  •  he's also lying on the stump (6+ / 0-)

    claims he has released two years of returns, which he has not.  he's released only one year, and some reports say that he did not provided a few key pages from that one.

    Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. Do everything in love.

    by Ed G on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 05:27:08 AM PDT

    •  yes, extremely important pages are missing (3+ / 0-)
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      from the 2010 return: the report on his holdings in foreign banks!

      "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
      CALL EVERYONE YOU KNOW in OH, PA, FL, NC and TX. Make sure they have the ID they need to vote, and make sure YOU are registered and ready to vote!

      by TrueBlueMajority on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 05:41:22 AM PDT

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  •  I suspect it is the "October Surprise" (4+ / 0-)

    The meme put him on the defensive prior to the convention, and it will be hammered home next month.

    Many self employed and others file their tax returns in October and how much they pay in taxes compared to even a 13% rate will be painfully apparent.

    •  His stonewalling is an important issue... (2+ / 0-)
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      Dem candidates could use it against him:

      "Gov. Romney won't talk about the troops or about his specific plans for the War in Afghanistan.  What doesn't he want you to know?"

      "He won't talk about which of your tax deductions he plans to cut if he's elected.  What doesn't he want you to know?"

      "He refuses to release his tax returns before 2010.  What doesn't he want you to know?"

      "He refuses to discuss his role in outsourcing jobs and bankrupting companies when he was CEO of Bain Capital.  What doesn't he want you to know about how he manages businesses, and how he will manage your Treasury?"

      etc, etc, etc.

  •  He will keep trying, but I suspect we (4+ / 0-)
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    will see a lot of days like yesterday, when he lets something slip out that might be attractive to "centrist" voters (e.g. his embrace of some elements of health care reform), then tries to back off of it later in the day.

    I think he needs to switch the times around.  Tea-partiers are probably more alert in the morning and independents in the evening.

    So I see only tatters of clearness through a pervading obscurity - Annie Dillard -6.88, -5.33

    by illinifan17 on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 05:28:08 AM PDT

  •  Now that I've reread (4+ / 0-)
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    I realize you are speaking about the media's willingness to let him flipflop. I have no clue. I swear, though, I'm learning to read Stephanopoulis' body language when he speaks to or about Romney. His face becomes very still and he leans back, as if in disgust. Or maybe that's just me projecting my own attitudes.

  •  Uh, to be fair nobody is accusing Romney of a (4+ / 0-)

    crime like they were Nixon. Should he release them? Absolutely, but this is an apples an oranges comparison

    "I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your fuckin' mouth." --- Bill Hicks

    by voroki on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 05:31:56 AM PDT

      •  Give me a break. With nixon it was known a crime (1+ / 0-)
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        was committed and they wanted to know what nixon knew about it. This is a fishing expedition in hopes of finding something, and most of what people hope to find isn't something criminal but to embarrass him over how little tax he's paid. Again he absolutely should release them and people should be suspicious of his motives in not doing so but its not the same thing.

        "I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your fuckin' mouth." --- Bill Hicks

        by voroki on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 05:48:54 AM PDT

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        •  No, the evidence of voter fraud is definitive. (2+ / 0-)
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          I'm sure a bevy of expensive lawyers could boot the case till after Romney is dead and gone, but that hardly matters.

          "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

          by Bob Love on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 06:10:23 AM PDT

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          •  Well as long as someone on a blog says a crime (0+ / 0-)

            is definitive it convinces me.

            "I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your fuckin' mouth." --- Bill Hicks

            by voroki on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 06:13:38 AM PDT

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          •  And oh by the way, if its definitive why does he (0+ / 0-)

            need to release his taxes?

            "I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your fuckin' mouth." --- Bill Hicks

            by voroki on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 06:15:13 AM PDT

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            •  Two separate issues. Taxes ≠ voting. (0+ / 0-)

              I know, it's pretty technical.

              "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

              by Bob Love on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 06:20:24 AM PDT

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              •  LOL. nice try. You are saying its definitive he (0+ / 0-)

                committed voting fraud. Well if that's already been established then I ask you again, what's the need to release his taxes

                "I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your fuckin' mouth." --- Bill Hicks

                by voroki on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 06:23:18 AM PDT

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                •  The two are not related. (1+ / 0-)
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                  He's not legally bound to release his taxes, that I know of.

                  But the evidence of him voting in a state in which he was not legally entitled is on record.

                  I don't know what you're getting at, but if you feel the two are somehow connected, then there's nothing I can do to help you.

                  "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

                  by Bob Love on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 06:29:59 AM PDT

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    •  The diary is about Romney's stonewalling on... (2+ / 0-)

      almost everything, from his tax returns to Afghanistan, and about the media, and for the most part, the Democrats not making this a bigger issue.  

      In the Nixon comparison, I'm speaking more of Nixon's personal passion for secrecy than about the illegality aspect of what he was hiding.  

      ..But the single unraveling strand was the character, ideology and insecurity of Richard M. Nixon...

      When he did get in power, he abused that power.

      As for Romney?  Dodging reporters, fearing his base, hiding his taxes—is Mitt Romney just too insecure to be president?

      ...But if Romney is elected? Be nervous...But a weenie Republican—look out. He has something to prove, needs to reassert that “natural” advantage. That spells trouble more often than not...

      At some point, an unexpected event...—a scandal, a smear—will put Romney under the interrogation lamp, and he’ll need to rise to the occasion. We’ll see then if he has it in him. So far, he wants to sneak into the White House through a side door, without having to do any of the difficult and controversial things candidates have to do...

      Concerning his,  tax returns, since he won't release them for public scrutiny, no one can say for certainty what's in them.  Audits of the super-wealthy "are much more complicated than a typical 1040 or W-2.."

      they need to go through a more rigorous examination process than a traditional audit, he said. And it can take a long time for these audits to be completed because of their complexity...

      "It's not unusual for audits to stretch beyond a year."

      Only 8,274 taxpayers reported income of more than $10 million in 2009, according to the most recent IRS data available. Based on this figure, the unit has completed audits of 0.4% of these high-income earners and is currently auditing 6% of this group..

      Currently the private equity firm founded by Romney is under investigation

      New York’s attorney general is investigating whether executives at Bain Capital, the private equity firm founded by Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, improperly avoided paying $200 million in federal income taxes, according to a report by The New York Times...

      Hundreds of pages of leaked financial documents from Bain Capital that have been posted online indicate at least $1 billion in executives’ management fees were converted to investments, whose capital gains are taxed at 15 percent, instead of the 35 percent paid on earned income in the top tax bracket...

      Tax experts disagree about whether the practice of converting fees to investments is illegal, according to the Times, but it is clear that the sort of flexibility enjoyed by Bain Capital executives reduced their investment risk...

      But, the point isn't what's in Romney's tax returns, it is his that his refusal to release his tax returns is part of a pattern of refusing to let the voters know important information about him, about his management history, and about how he will manage their Treasury, the current war, the budget, etc.

  •  Romney is stonewalling on everything (6+ / 0-)

    I watched him refuse to answer every question posed to him by notorious GOP panderer David Gregory on FTN yesterday morning. He will not give any details about any of his positions.

    He is the man with no face.

    I know what Mitt Romney is hiding: Mitt Romney.

    by commonmass on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 05:48:33 AM PDT

  •  'Better to be silent and thought a fool than to... (5+ / 0-)

    open your mouth and remove all manner of doubt'.

    -Abraham Lincoln.

  •  Nixon Got Away With It Too. (5+ / 0-)

    It wasn't till there was Supreme Court order that the tapes were turned over to congress.

    As did Nixon prior to court order, Romney will continue to get away with not disclosing plans and tax records. In his case there's no legal authority to demand them and the media will do no more than ask the occasional polite question.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 06:04:58 AM PDT

    •  "My dog ate my tax returns. Trust me." nt (2+ / 0-)
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      "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

      by Bob Love on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 06:11:34 AM PDT

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    •  A funny thing in retrospect is that Nixon (0+ / 0-)

      legally could have destroyed the tapes (before the court order) and probably he could have ridden the thing out. He should have had them crushed, burned, and then fed to rabid wolverines.

      I never thought at the time I would say this, but Tricky Dick wasn't so bad. He gave us the EPA, opened up relations with China, and detonated a smart bomb that crippled the Republican Party for years without damaging the rest of the country. I wonder if my kids will say the same sort of thing about W in forty years.

      •  ...In view of his Enemies Lists and Dirty Tricks.. (0+ / 0-)

        ...I have trouble focusing on the things he did that weren't so bad.  I remember too vividly his administration's dark side.

        ...Reasonable people might agree or disagree with Nixon's domestic and foreign policies, and in most respects these policies were pragmatic and reasoned responses to the problems facing the nation...

        But the Nixon presidency had a darker side, a cancer eating away at its legitimacy and the bonds of trust and faith between rulers and ruled. Nixon did not play politics; he practiced war...

         What President Ford later referred to as "our long national nightmare" was not a few isolated incidents relating to the 1972 reelection campaign. Rather it was an integral part of the White House political operation from the very first days of Nixon's presidency.

        The White House in 1969 compiled an "enemies list" containing the names of two hundred people it viewed as political opponents, including politicians, actors, university presidents, and other well-known figures. There was a "shortlist" targeted for immediate political retribution. Background investigations were conducted by White House operatives to find "dirt" that could be leaked to newspapers....

        ...The White House used government agencies to harass its opponents. The special services staff of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) was ordered to conduct audits of organizations opposed to Nixon's policies

        The Secret Service files... during the Nixon administration the files ballooned to forty-seven thousand names, including political opponents...

        On 28 May 1971, Nixon ordered chief of staff H. R. Haldeman to use wiretaps against leading Democrats, including Kennedy, Edmund S. Muskie, and Hubert Humphrey. "Keep after 'em," he told Haldeman. "Maybe we can get a scandal on any, any of the leading Democrats."

        The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), acting on presidential orders, wiretapped people without obtaining judicial warrants, including people in sensitive government positions...

        The use of the "plumbers" to break into their opponents' HQ was one thing; but the use of government agencies and government employees to spy on, to harass, and to discredit political enemies--from political opponents, to ordinary citizens--that was just plain chilling and a total abuse of power.

  •  The beauty is that Tommy Thompson has decided (3+ / 0-)
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    to go all in with Romney and not release his tax returns, that cannot help Thompson at all.  In WI as in MA those Romney coattails are sure going to hurt Republicans.

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 06:31:01 AM PDT

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